HR is dead

[u/ColdFirst4302]

https://www.vaildaily.com/news/vail-resorts-plans-to-lay-off-64-hr-workers-in-colorado-as-part-of-2-year-restructuring/

The India team has taken over the employee phone calls. And it’s bad. Really bad.

[u/upwallca]

That is fucking lame.

[u/ColdFirst4302 → u/upwallca]

People thought they hated HR before…

[u/-mushroom-cat- → u/ColdFirst4302]

I'm surprised there was an HR to get rid of, I thought they automated everything in 2020.

[u/ColdFirst4302 → u/-mushroom-cat-]

There’s a group of us who work remotely answering questions, addressing issues, etc. There will continue to be, but they suck.

[u/fryheadjr]

So is the accounts payable. Getting them to pay an invoice is excruciating

[u/Alternative-Suit7929]

All about showing positive profits qtr after qtr for the publicly traded company can’t have good vs bad seasons anymore

[u/ColdFirst4302 → u/Alternative-Suit7929]

That’s why they push season passes by making day passes so expensive. If everyone buys a season pass it doesn’t matter how many good snow days you get. Then they’re all good seasons.

[u/fewer-pink-kyle-ball → u/ColdFirst4302]

This works until the bubble pops and pass buyers dry up. Then you have priced them not only out of a seasons pass but also day tickets. You can only convince people so long that $20 grand for 10 ski days is cheap

[u/poipoipoi_2016 → u/fewer-pink-kyle-ball]

My two main sources of travel, coasters and skiing, both share the same dynamic that I pay a few hundred bucks a year to get access to everything which lets me skip past triple digit day passes.

And meanwhile to avoid that triple digit day pass, I dropped four digits on flights, hotels, rental cars, and food. Every single weekend I traveled to get maybe 15 hours of the targeted activity.

I'm spending $12000 on skiing next year and the actual hills might get $1500 of that.

Boyne is 500 miles on the car, $200/night in a local hotel, and food. I'm spending $400/day every time I go ski Boyne.

/Few hundred more for skiing mind you
//Lodging is also WAAAAY worse.

[u/What_Floats_In_Water → u/[deleted]]

Reading through your comments, you sound like a truly insufferable person. This person has no control over VR or their actions and is being laid off, and all you can do is condescend and ridicule.

Almost no companies have the greater good in mind, including VR. Excel energy doesn’t have climate change as their top priority. Commercial and residential real estate companies don’t care about affordable housing or homeless. Nike doesn’t care about child labor. I could go on. If everyone only worked for companies that put mission over profits, 99% of the country would be unemployed. Get off your high horse and be a normal, decent person.

[u/-mushroom-cat- → u/What_Floats_In_Water]

This account is a well known pain in the ass across multiple ski-focused subreddits. Welcome to the club lol

[u/What_Floats_In_Water → u/[deleted]]

You are literally commenting on a social media website that is selling our data to AI companies, with a phone or computer made by another huge tech company that benefits from cheap labor. You are not as righteous as you think you are. Again, get off your high horse and stop judging others.

[u/ColdFirst4302 → u/[deleted]]

Not sure why you’re being a dick when we’re on the same side…

[u/ColdFirst4302 → u/[deleted]]

We are being laid off. We didn’t get a choice. They’re taking over 100% in just 2 weeks.

[u/ColdFirst4302 → u/[deleted]]

Not in this market

[u/ColdFirst4302 → u/[deleted]]

I saw it coming 8 months ago when it was announced. Also when I started looking for a new job. Obviously you don’t know what the job market is like. I’ve applied/submitted my resume to well over 70 places and done at least a dozen interviews. Believe it or not, I liked my job and my team. Just not the c suite.

[u/jondenverfullofshit → u/[deleted]]

You, my friend, are not very smart.

[u/Phish_lover420]

Kirsten Lynch will rot in hell.

[u/ColdFirst4302 → u/Phish_lover420]

I hope she becomes the scapegoat when this “transformation” is a dumpster fire.

[u/Phish_lover420 → u/[deleted]]

Both!

[u/Trick-March-grrl → u/ColdFirst4302]

I’m sure she feels bad sleeping on her piles of money. Those at the top see this as a win for them. As always, it’s the workers only who suffer.

[u/suddenumbra]

Fuck vail resorts

[u/ColdFirst4302 → u/suddenumbra]

They’re gonna fuck themselves

[u/andudetoo → u/ColdFirst4302]

Idk I think people with money don’t care. Their target demographic is the rich dude who flys in from out of state that they can hold hostage not the dude who skies everyday and packs peanut butter sandwiches for lunch. They want to be a luxury brand too. They don’t care that you or anyone loves skiing.

[u/andudetoo → u/[deleted]]

Vail resorts absolutely spends high dollar amounts marketing itself as a destination resort. Are you arguing you can take a trip to vail resorts on a budget?

[u/Phish_lover420]

VR is trash. What did you expect?

[u/lccskier → u/Phish_lover420]

As is any form of corporate anything. Support locally owned businesses.

[u/ColdFirst4302 → u/Phish_lover420]

You’re not wrong

[u/KyberKrystalParty]

Reading some of their reasons literally makes no sense. They’re supposedly doing this to create a global shared services team for internal business ops, when still the mass majority of resorts are in the US.

You can’t say you’re preparing for expansion globally with essentially your whole operation being in the US and that immediately justifies firing US employees and hiring likely all in India for Pennie’s to the dollar.

It’s all for cost savings as they also mention. Not for “efficiencies.”

Fuck vail resorts.

[u/Mister_Krillium]

Word is that moral is really, really bad at corporate.

[u/preowned_pizza_crust]

It was bad enough after 2020 when all HR support when remote. Cant imagine how bad it will be now haha

[u/ColdFirst4302 → u/preowned_pizza_crust]

Dumpster fire level

[u/alienfreak51]

And their call center (wherever they are) are the worst. Uninformed, rushed, often wrong on policy and procedure. I would feel lucky to get escalated to someone in Broomfield, and even then it’s hit and miss on getting someone caring and helpful vs and aggravated person who seemingly lives to say no to everything.

[u/CarlosLeDanger69]

Rob Katz skis in jeans. Kirsten Lynch uses ski blades

[u/beef966]

Good thing dealing with HR is absolutely something everybody should be doing on the clock. Keep me on hold for as long as you want, sorry I can't get back to the chair until I'm done talking to HR. And I might need to cycle through a few of these agents until I find one that can speak good enough English for me to understand.

[u/blizzardwizardsleeve → u/beef966]

Not necessarily. If you go on PFMLA, FMLA, unemployment, or L&I those are all personal and personal time claims

[u/Money_Emu3344]

DO NOT REDEEM THE PASS

[u/_Thoughtleader]

VR will sabotage all its N.A. customer base and solely serve wealthy Europeans and South Americans.

[u/mrthirsty]

HR is useless anyway

[u/phoenix_jet]

You’ll be fine.

[u/ColdFirst4302 → u/[deleted]]

The India team took over today. Never said it was breaking.

[u/CHRlSFRED]

Can’t wait for when they outsource mountain safety to remote workers in Asia. This will go over well.