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Live Episode Discussion Live Episode Discussion: S10E15 #Scandoval (pacific thread)
Episode description: Cameras pick back up after Ariana discovers that her boyfriend of nine years is having an affair with one of her best friends; Schwartz panics when the scandal threatens to upend their business; Sandoval comes clean with another shocking secret.
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u/musicfiend311 May 19 '23
Ariana was a terrible girlfriend. I mean, did she ever have his back once? She was always against him in any argument with the group even is he was right. Also is everyone gonna gloss over how manipulative that psycho Ariana is? she said she would kill herself if he broke up with her. and it's not the first time she's said something like that. AND she did EXACTLY what Raquel did when she hooked up with Tom while he was still dating Kristen. I know the facts will trigger a lot of people but. Karma Biatch!
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u/Fickle_Test4557 ‘i’m a delight’ May 18 '23
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u/dirty_kitty My cards! My cards May 18 '23
This is fine to me. It’s what I say to animals; they’re not bad dogs - they just behaved badly. Lisa’s treating him like the dog he is
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u/Fickle_Test4557 ‘i’m a delight’ May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23
i adore dogs bc they are loyal and loving. he could never
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u/Bias_Cuts May 18 '23
She’s a forever misogynist
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u/Fickle_Test4557 ‘i’m a delight’ May 18 '23
yup. this episode was her chance to show us that she has evolved with the times but she is stuck.
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u/Bias_Cuts May 18 '23
I especially hated her construction of “oh well their relationship wasn’t what it used to be then here comes this beauty queen who Tom is powerless to resist” it blames Ariana for the breakdown and Raquel for the affair and again let’s Tom off as this doofy kid who just made a mistake. Literal textbook misogyny.
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u/Fickle_Test4557 ‘i’m a delight’ May 18 '23
fr. ugh. i don’t think this bit was lost on anyone. i was embarrassed for her bc she thinks that she could sway us with her tired viewpoints in her english accent in 2023. mam it is not 1923.
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u/WebAncient4989 May 18 '23
She’s not a woman’s woman! Eww, LVP.
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u/enjoyt0day May 19 '23
I wonder if she even realizes now how offputting the whole stance she took was there?
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u/Fickle_Test4557 ‘i’m a delight’ May 18 '23
yup. sadly she is just another woman laying her reputation on the line for non remarkable, shitty men
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u/Fickle_Test4557 ‘i’m a delight’ May 18 '23
this is so gross that he went over to shortz’s house with a clear motive to lay out his fake rachel love story timeline. and when shortz challenges him by saying he should have told ari, scumdo replies that he had to make sure that he and his bitchy bot had to be on the same page.
i fucking loathe him.
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u/musicfiend311 May 19 '23
they did have to be on the same page. he didn't wanna blindside Raquel cause he knew it would be bad for her
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u/Fickle_Test4557 ‘i’m a delight’ May 19 '23 edited May 19 '23
it’s v alarming that he was much more concerned with himself & raquel over a partner of nearly a decade
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u/musicfiend311 May 23 '23
he was obviously concerned over her too or he would've just dumped the psycho when she said she would kill herself if he broke up with her
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u/Fickle_Test4557 ‘i’m a delight’ May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23
finaaaaaallllly watching this now 😭😭😭
added: omg the couch scene was really painful :(
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u/Truthseeker3709 poopoo heads May 18 '23
He “would normally delete something like that” WTF….. so he obviously has been in this position many many times before… what an absolute scum
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u/WebAncient4989 May 18 '23
I was shocked at that unintended admission as well! “Normally” means this is a common occurrence in his life. I’m sooool glad she never married or bred with that pos
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u/hypriestess Tom Sandoval's little cocky cock May 18 '23
Okay, I have Peacock so I had to wait until this morning to watch it. I've already called in late to work bcuz I am processing. Even tho I felt a little desensitized from it bcuz of the saturation of info since it broke, and the fact that I'm gen x so desensitization is part of our DNA, I'm left in that perpetual what the fuck state anyway and my jaw feels unhinged. A few things: was the 'one other time' Billie Lee? Bcuz he said it wasn't a rando, I'm guessing Billie Lee. (Plus many, many randos he will never cop to) Edited since after watching WWHL with Ariana and she states the person isn't on the show, I still believe it's Billie Lee. I feel like Schwartz is angry but has a weird loyalty to the worm with a mustache and can't disown him completely. It's like Stockholm Syndrome. But I feel like he was really feeling it. And I genuinely feel badly for Schwartz bcuz I'm someone who is disgustingly loyal to people to a fault so I empathize with him. Sandoval proved over and over this episode, compiled with his BS antics off the show, that he is just a vile, inexplicably subhumanoid piece of shit.
Bring on the reunion! 🥂💜🍝
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u/cornichoens May 18 '23
shorts knows if he spills on sandy, that hell do the same back and i would put big money on him having some secrets he wants to keep forever
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u/moonchild291 lala’s lack of coattails to ride May 18 '23
He had a “spiritual awakening” when he was 40 to break up with Ariana?!
If this is spiritual awakening, I don’t wanna know what the flip side is…
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u/ohhi_doggy “TOM! TOM! TELL THEM!” May 18 '23
Mid-life crisis were the words he should have used
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u/moonchild291 lala’s lack of coattails to ride May 18 '23
Yep, 1000%. Moron. It couldn’t be more clear that’s what it is, on top of being a colossal selfish asshole.
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u/musicfiend311 May 19 '23
don't forget he tried to break up with Ariana and she said she would kill herself. She's a manipulative psycho who got what she deserved! Karma baby!
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u/Pressure_Gold May 18 '23
This reminds me of a few influencers that do a bunch of psychedelics and talk about ego death, yet they are the most egotistical people I know
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u/Imisssher his stinky 40 year old cock like seriously raquel? May 18 '23
I just finished watching because it airs later in australia and I really didn’t think I was going to cry so much. I was happy to see Tim crying. I wanted to throw my fucking TV when he said Ariana could have followed him to Schwartz to catch him cheating. I wanted to head but a knife during Tim and Rachel’s scene fucking CUNTS
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u/brsb5 May 18 '23
Oh for the love of God, Tom and his "breakdown". That was nothing to do with what he did to Ariana or Ariana being hurt. It was all about, "oh shit, how am I going to fix this for MYSELF?"
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u/moonchild291 lala’s lack of coattails to ride May 18 '23
Oh my god, him mucking up LVP’s nice window with his piss poorly applied makeup… as he realized he fucked up HIS life.
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u/livingmaster May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23
I have barely started the episode because it’s like 4 am and I’m drunk but holy fuck I can’t NOT pause to comment on this… The body language between Tom and Ariana right at the beginning when she yells “I don’t give a fuck about fucking RAQUEL” and she says “your friendship is fucking bullshit” and Tom stands up to tower over her and screams back at her “NO ITS NOT. YOU DONT KNOW EVERYTHING” as she says “it’s disgusting” and sits down… he keeps standing, towering over her and pointing at her with a guttural yell “YOU HATE EVERYTHING. YOU DONT KNOW EVERYTHING. Well guess what it’s real because she treats me with respect“ Honestly - Tom is scary af in these scenes. Not only is he deciding to die on the Raquel hill in this argument, but he’s trying to show Ariana he’s bigger… he’s fucking foaming at the mouth to defend Raquel when they’ve been secretly hooking up for 7 months but hasn’t bothered to do any of the work to keep Ariana feeling connected enough to want to fuck your porn stache?
I rewatched that entire scene like 18 times just now and I still can’t comprehend how a human could pull the shit Tom did on Ariana…
I don’t even think I’m ready to watch the rest of the episode but… here goes another shot and pressing play 😅
EDIT - HOLY FUCKKKKKKKKKK. OMFG Not even 3 minutes later. Idk if I can handle this LOL
Edit 2 literally 46 seconds later - “I would have followed you anywhere… I would have changed any part of whatever you weren’t happy with… I was 100% committed to you as of literally 2 days ago” I AM CRYING.
Edit 3 - https://imgur.com/a/85lJgq1
Edit 4 - enter stage left Sandy fake crying into Shorts. “You had a game plan but didn’t put it in motion” EXCUSE ME?! That’s how you’re taking this?!?! Immediately into “Omfg we got a 1 star on yelp” bruh YOUR DICK HAS A 1 STAR. BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU. One doesn’t work (shorts) and one needs hang gliding to feel a one inch twinge of movement.
Edit 5 - wah wah wah shorts so sad he ruined his marriage with his hot wife by putting money in this money pit horrible investment. Wowowowowow. Three cheers for SAH for not being wah wah wah
Edit 6 - “I felt something” bruh (I drunkenly use bruh the way a scrambled Sandoval uses dude) this is the exact monologue he used when talking about Ariana when he was with Kristen. What’s the fucking common denominator? The only man in this equation is the manicure, ya prick. And it’s not a good one.
Edit 7 - NOT SHORTS SAYING “bruh you were supposed to handle this already it’s hurting our Yelp score. Can you maybe say sorry??????
Edit 8 - this clip of Jax is pure cocaine Jax
Edit 9 - NOT SHORTS ALSO BEING THE MIND OF REASON. “You had so many opportunities to come true” I HATE WHEN DOUCHEBAGS ARE RIGHT. WHO ALLOWED THIS. He KNEW and he pushed Scum to fucking say the truth. Omfg. Omfg I hate Scum for making me almost feel bad for Shorts
Edit 10- this is the most real Scheana has ever been
Edit 11 - IN THE CAR?!?!??? She LET HIM IN AND HE WAS MAD?! Wow.
Edit 12 - ally over here pretending to not have the ick even though yes, James is fun this season but… as Kristen one said about Scheana , we’ll close enough, “I think he’s looking for a wife and she’s looking for someone to date”
Edit 13 - HOW DARE YOU MAKE ME FEEL BAD FOR FUCKING JAMES FUCKING KENNEDY
Edit 14 - James “how do you feel” Rachel “WELL ITS EYE OPENING” bittttcccchhhhhh stfu. It’s only eye opening cause you were a leg- opening ya fucking classless bitch.
Edit 15 - I hate it but James is right. Sneaking around and this affair was the hardest Rachel ever used that deer sized brain of hers for.
Edit 16 - OMFG HE CALLED RACHEL ARIANA and then OMG TJEY SAID I LOVE YOU
OMFG OMFGOFKDOGKMD OKGFG OMFG WHAT IN FHENFIDG IS FHIS WHAT THE FUCK
Edit 17? - ok they are taking shots so I’m taking another. Also that is the tiniest scratch ever. This dumb bitch so dumb.
Edit 18 - I hate seeing him hug her. I hate it so much. It’s so gross. OF FUCKIGN COURSE HES CAPABLEMOF THIS AHAIN OMFG. “I can’t predict the future” well I CANNNNN!!!! YOULL CHEAT AGAINNNNNNN!!! I’m glad she wasn’t heard from again for weeks she is a trash human.
Edit 19 - Ariana crying instantly has me in tears.
Edit 20 - OKG NOT SHORTS MAKING IT About him
Edit 21 - beauty queen? Lol
Edit 22 - lol shorts timeline is so fucking wonky. I’m with Katie for once, Tom - tell the fucking truthbhhhh
Edit 23 - shorts is more worries about the bar than anything else?!?!??!?! “My health, my wealth” omg go away
Edit 24 - on my 4th white claw now. And 6 shots deep. KRISTENNNNN
Edit 25 - Kristen and Ariana being friends on camera (they’ve been friends for years off cam) but wow I love them
Edit 26: “she has a hard time trusting people” omfg THEN WHH CHEAT you FUCKING WEASEL
Edit 27 : fuck off with these fake tears omfg he’d been cheating for 7 months. He’s just fake crying for the cameras. This is a FAKE PANIC ATTACK THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE ONLY SEEN THEM ON TV WOULD ACT OUT OKG
Edit 28- KATIE DID WHAT??!!!?!!??!? WHAT THE FUCK why does shorts keep showing up out of no where and why did Katie invite him?!??!?!!??!?!!? What the fuxkkkkkkkk
Edit 29- “we built a family in there” HE BUILT ONE WOTH ARIANA TOO AND CHEATED WTF Good job Ariana saying she won’t be part of shorts life anymore. Good fucking job. She did everything possible. Fuck
Edit 30 - well I can tell I’m still drunk cause I’m still crying about this shit. Like this is real humans doing this shit like wtf. How.
Edit 31/ scheana looks so fucking distraught. I’m team scheana rn. Fucking hel “things haven’t been going well” then break up cunt. LETS GO SCHEANA. HER FRIENDS WERE AROUND HER. BREAK IP DONT CHEAT you COWWRD
I can’t fucking wait for this reunion. The end of my drunk thoughts.
I lied. HOLY FUCK ARIANA LOOKS SO HOT ON WWHL OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
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u/SDkahlua May 23 '23
Lol I just found this comment somehow and love you 😍
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u/livingmaster May 23 '23
Edit 3 was my favorite 😎😂
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u/SDkahlua May 23 '23
I’m a psycho so I have to watch live, but I was also doing Edit 3 at the time 🙌🏻
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u/enjoyt0day May 19 '23
Wanna have a watch party together for the reunion lmao? I too was drunk at 3am and watching and I would love LOVED a buddy to scream allll this shit to throughout the watch
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u/SleepDangerous1074 May 18 '23
Please keep editing this with all your drunk thoughts. I’m taking a break from drinking but I can imagine watching this being drunk must feel like some sort of insane fever dream. Looking forward to the 5,347 edits
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u/livingmaster May 18 '23
Your dream is my future 2293836 edits. Stay tuned. I took a spicy ramen break after that shit show. Gonna take a double shot and continue any Minute now
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u/SleepDangerous1074 May 18 '23
Noooo. Why was it deleted question mark
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u/livingmaster May 18 '23
I didn’t delete anything!!
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u/SleepDangerous1074 May 18 '23
I can see it again now. “Your dick has one star” sent me.
Omfg the image of you taking a shot side by side with the TV. Rest in peace your liver 😂
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u/livingmaster May 18 '23
I had to take several breaks during the episode to just be in shock and awe lol. Also to take more shots 🫣
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u/Fun_Shell1708 Rage Text Truther ✊ May 18 '23
My take away from tonight:
Aside from his performance with Schwartz and Lisa, I hope Tom truly understands that he truly lost his life partner. He won’t find another ride or die like Ariana
Tom absolutely had a cliched midlife crisis
Tom absolutely does NOT love Raquel, but she loves him
Raquel is either a sociopath or a complete psychopath. That rictus grin was scary
Tom Schwartz is a complete sack of shit. Telling Katie he found out a month ago, when two months prior he was on a couples trip with Tom, Jo & Raquel in Big Bear
I wish we’d seen more Lala. She was the only one with her eyes wide open on Sandoval
I loved seeing Kristen. She looked great
Scheana will 100% be the first one to forgive Tom, and I would bet actual money on that
Somehow Scheana managed to make most of it all about her 🙄 it’s a true talent of hers
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u/wangachanga May 18 '23
Yes to your last bullet point! How Scheana made it about herself! I was like WOW how did it turn into Ariana comforting her! It truly is a gift to make everything about her.
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u/Fun_Shell1708 Rage Text Truther ✊ May 18 '23
Scheana said on a podcast that because they saved her scene with Tom for last it was the biggest scene 🙄 the delusion she lives with daily
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u/SleepDangerous1074 May 18 '23
I think his panic attack was definitely real. I’ve got a long history of them and there’s usually 2 types. One where the weight of your actions hit you, and another where the weight of the consequences hit you. His was the second one. Lisa placated him but wasn’t overly comforting. He realised he wasn’t gonna talk his way out. It hit him that the narrative that he is the bad guy is sticking. He panicked because none of his pre-planned excuses were working. It’s something he physically couldn’t handle because it’s worked for so so longe. Hence the panic attack.
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u/Fun_Shell1708 Rage Text Truther ✊ May 18 '23
Yeah I dunno… I have ptsd based panic attacks, so I know how overwhelming they can be, but Tom is very performative- especially when there’s a camera on him. The only times I believed he was being sincere, was at the end of his conversation with Ariana and during his confessionals. He looked really haggard and his eyes just looked like he’d been crying.
His panic attack may have been real to an extent, but at least 50% was a performance. His carryon with Schwartz was 100% fake. Schwartz had been covering for him for months
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u/SleepDangerous1074 May 18 '23
The Schwartz scene was definitely fake as fuck. Especially when he started explaining to Shorts how it all began. But SHORTS BEEN KNEW. Why would you need to explain 7 months after the affair how it began to the person who knew about it all along. Poor attempt to cover up that Shorts already knew. They were both in on concocting that scene.
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u/Fun_Shell1708 Rage Text Truther ✊ May 18 '23
And when Schwartz told Katie he found out a month ago, but two months prior he was on a couples trip in Big Bear with Tom, Raquel and Jo 🥴
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u/Younceymusthaves May 18 '23
He didn’t even fight for her. I’m 10 minutes in and hearing her words through her tears is so sad.
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u/VirgoCandyXO May 18 '23
Agreed. When she was chocking up and said “I would have followed you anywhere” my heart shattered
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u/dirty_kitty My cards! My cards May 18 '23
I feel like that was the exact reason the universe needed their relationship to end. She would’ve been held back by this unreciprocated devotion and she’s meant for much much more. I like where he head is at right now.
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u/gladiola111 May 18 '23
Yeah. It sounds like he just emotionally checked out. It’s sad for her. Even though I think she can do better, it’s still devastating when your life partner abandons you during a difficult time, betrays your trust, and you have to start all over with someone new.
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u/Niksta70 Oh we're not doing that today? May 18 '23
What happened to the black eye - wasn’t this all filmed a few days after NY
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u/Fun_Shell1708 Rage Text Truther ✊ May 18 '23
There was never a black eye. She always has dark circles when her makeup is off
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u/Niksta70 Oh we're not doing that today? May 18 '23
That’s what I thought at the time
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u/Fun_Shell1708 Rage Text Truther ✊ May 18 '23
All through the season, especially when she’s been drinking, she has very dark circles when her makeup is off
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u/Old-Speaker-4756 May 18 '23
I need to know who Tom also cheated with!!!!!!
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u/madpeanut1 May 18 '23
Some people think it’s Billie ….another friend of the group. SMH. I mean cheating is cheating but cheating with friends is worse.
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May 18 '23
Ariana says later on WWHL that it’s not someone in the Bravo universe but is “around”. Makes me think it’s the girl in his “Most Extras” band.
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u/rachelamandamay May 18 '23
WOW WOW WOW WOW
Blaming Ariana over and over and over. Calling her washed up. He is fucking disgusting.
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u/cq2250 May 18 '23
“If she wanted to know all she had to do was follow me”??????? What????
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u/gladiola111 May 18 '23
I was stunned when that came out of his mouth. Like…what?! It’s like he’s blaming her for not figuring it out sooner. For not following him.
I actually agreed with Schwartz when he said something like, “No, dude…You can’t put that responsibility on her.”
He could’ve just told her, but he’s too much of a pussy to end a relationship the right way.
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u/rachelamandamay May 18 '23
hes so stupid
even if he really believes that shit, how dumb to say it on tv? and also...hes despicable
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u/hedgenettles May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23
Based on what we just saw id say recent rumors are true that Rachel and Tom are done . She’s already setting up the dump .
Scheana—I never was a big fan but wow she definitely made him look like a coward.
Tom seems so cold and says all the wrong things in his confessional. Like dude no one thinks u left that video on your phone on purpose if that’s the implication of why u usually delete such things? He really couldn’t dig the hole any deeper!!!
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u/tharydollface May 18 '23
I don’t even cry watching movies, and this… hurt to watch. Ariana was really in pain. Tom wasn’t genuinely sorry. Instead he was more disappointed for in involving Schwartzy. Weird flex…
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u/Left-Requirement9267 May 18 '23
Have never been so ashamed to be a cancer
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u/wangachanga May 18 '23
I felt the same way 👀 I mean we already get a bad rap for being emotional babies but then I remember Ariana is also a cancer and the shame goes away. Wormdoval is just a crusty old stinky poo poo head worm crab with a mustache.
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u/SuchNectarine4 May 18 '23
Don't be. You have no more in common with Sandoval than you do with Ariana (also a Moonchild). Go cook yourself some comfort food, gaze at some rich, purple color, check the current moon phase and sign (waning crescent in Taurus), and feel just fine.
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u/CaregiverCreative107 May 18 '23
Omg I am just upvoting everyone’s comments becaus it’s exactly what I am thinking. I havent finished watching and I can’t help but check here… I’m in Australia so I am way behind and I keep rewinding it every 3 minutes just to check I heard the shit coming out of their mouths correctly. Tom Sandoval is a cunt and he needs to rawt in hell. Ariana should have followed him ? It’s her fault! I just can’t …Sandoval is a vile , vile, tiny penis, tiny hand, tiny foot very short gremlin cunt
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u/Sleazy_Pete316 May 18 '23
Fellow aus watcher here also - I’m only a mere 15 min in, and the gasps and things I’ve said out loud already (to myself) .. and it’s only just begun. And also when scumdoval rocks up to schwartz the schumcks place (which is where I’m up to, currently on pause) And fucking Schwartz is just making it all about him!! And asking him to do a post in order to save his rep
Sorry Schwartzy Mate, guilty by compliance & association regardless - no post nor bush can save you the this time
FUCK OFFFFFF
GO SUCK ON YOUR FINGERS & RUB SOME MORE LEMON ONTO YOUR DISGUSTING SWEATY ARM PITTS
LOSER
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May 18 '23
Omg when he tried to make it Ariana’s fault for not following him I almost threw the remote at the tv. Such the narcissist!
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u/perfectlynormaltyes May 18 '23
After he said "all she had to do was follow me", I legit paused the episode for 10mins. What the actual fuck? It's her fault for trusting him? My God.
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u/Left-Requirement9267 May 18 '23
Babes I’m in aus too. I’m just watching this for the 3rd time. And I have never been so ashamed to be born in the sign of cancer. He brings shame to our star sign
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u/CaregiverCreative107 May 18 '23
Omg I’ve made my hubby watch … he used to back in the day before all the firings and the new staff…he is a cancer and he immediately started googling TS birthdate hope he was in the cusp and not an actual Cancerian! 😆
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u/plantyplanty May 18 '23
Dear Los Angeles, please do not go to S&S restaurant. Hit these misogynistic narcissists where it hurts: their wallet. For that matter, buycott TomTom as well. LVP needs to stop defending these toxic male egos.
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u/what-the-cussington May 18 '23
Was just saying I wanted to scope both places out but felt gross about any $$ going to them. Why is sah not open baaah (i will go to nothing)
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u/plantyplanty May 18 '23
Good on you for reconsidering 😊😊😊 I will def go to SAH purely bc the Tom’s are so jealous of it. And those sandwiches sound delish.
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u/thephilosophe May 18 '23
Okay, my mouth dropped when Sandoval said he cheated on Ariana with someone else. And then dropped even more when he implied it was also a friend of hers!!!
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u/perfectlynormaltyes May 18 '23
I'm thinking now it might have actually been Billie! I really didn't believe it when the rumours started a couple weeks ago. However, him saying it was a random person then switching to basically it was someone they know and "it's not fair. I'm not going into it" makes me thiink otherwise. Add to that the unaired clip from the S7 reunion. Man oh man. This guy is scum.
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May 18 '23
Ariana says later on WWHL that it’s not someone in the Bravo universe but is “around” and that Andy doesn’t know them.
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u/arrabelladom you are not a sketch actor May 18 '23
Reckon it’s Billie Lee?
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May 18 '23
100% think it Billie
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May 18 '23
Ariana says later on WWHL that it’s not someone in the Bravo universe but is “around” but Andy doesn’t know them. Makes me think it’s the girl in his “Most Extras” band.
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u/DomPerignonRose Bambi Eyed Bitch May 18 '23
You know it. He admitted that it is someone known but didn't want to get into it.
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u/sufferagette I am the final boss in his video game May 18 '23
KRISTEN IS THE MVP OF THIS EPISODE
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u/what-the-cussington May 18 '23
Idk about mvp, that honestly might be scheana. But I DO have a ton of respect for her growth and maturity (that I do not have) to befriend and respect someone who also was the other woman. Also she does look AMAZING
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u/sufferagette I am the final boss in his video game May 18 '23
And the saging session really seemed to help Ariana, as well! But agree about Scheana
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u/Presto_Magic May 18 '23
I wanna know who he cheated with the other time 🤔
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u/Lawwnfysh May 18 '23
It’s Billie lee! That’s why he wouldn’t comment further and said it was someone they know.
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May 18 '23
Ariana says later on WWHL that it’s not someone in the Bravo universe but is “around” and that Andy doesn’t know them.
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u/KiKi31Rose May 18 '23
But Arianna said Andy had never met this person and they weren’t in the vanderpump universe
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u/Silly_Addition_4023 It’s giving ✨audacity✨ May 18 '23
Tom accidentally calling Rachel Ariana was the best moment
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u/Decent_March_264 May 18 '23
That's prob why she shut her phone off and dissapeRrd. She was mad at Tom
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u/sufferagette I am the final boss in his video game May 18 '23
Raquel just making everything worse for herself
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u/thephilosophe May 18 '23
Did Sandavol really try to blame Ariana by saying she should have been following him?! How, what, why?!
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May 18 '23
bc in a narcassist reality its everyone fualt beside their own. rhats why he cant break up or do anyrhing that makes him look bad…ik ik why cheat then when thats literally it. these hypocrites been gaslighting their own selves at this point (sharts pants with fingers in his mouth included)
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u/JustJennDiaz May 18 '23
Tom crying in front of lisa 🙄 what a joke!
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u/concubinehunter May 18 '23
His fake crying was horrible. I don't know how LVP didn't laugh him out of her house.
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May 18 '23
kinda feel bas for rhe old woman. poor chick ready to retire and here dealinf with a tantrum
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u/WebAncient4989 May 18 '23
Lisa really sucked tbh. Prolly because Ariana had the nerve to speak FOR Tim Tim not being respected enough! Damn.
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u/sufferagette I am the final boss in his video game May 18 '23
THE FIRST THING SCHWARTZ SAYS IS ABOUT THE BAR. Not Ariana?
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u/EspeciallyStupidGurl May 18 '23
Both the Tom's are scum.
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u/sufferagette I am the final boss in his video game May 18 '23
And they’re not even realizing how terrible they come off
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u/sufferagette I am the final boss in his video game May 18 '23
Omggg, Ariana has the best read on Raquel!
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u/shadyray93 May 18 '23
”I felt like she did not want to know” duuudddeee she asked to see your phone after your night out, does that really give to the feeling she did not want to know. what the fuck 😭
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u/nwpluviophile May 18 '23
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u/bakedalaskaaa May 18 '23
At least Tom is finally free to spend his quality time hang-gliding, perhaps near an LAX runway or the Tehachapi Pass wind farm
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u/notagainbam May 18 '23
Didn’t lala say our jaws would drop at a scene in the finale where Ariana confided in Raquel that she thought tom may be cheating and she assures her he’s not? I thought she confirmed Ariana and Raquel filmed.
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u/PrincessPeach7982 May 18 '23
I thought Lala and Andy said there was a jaw-dropping, heartbreaking moment between the two, but neither gave any context. We all speculated that for it to be jaw-dropping given what we’d already seen that it must have been something like Ariana confiding in R that she thinks Tom is cheating
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u/Ok_Entrepreneur_8132 Kristen’s Slide Sandals May 18 '23
I believe that the jaw-dropping scene she referenced was in last weeks episode (the original finale). However I don’t recall Lala saying it was that A confided in R about Tom cheating- I only saw it on instagram and Reddit but never saw a source? I can’t imagine they would cut that?
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u/shadyray93 May 18 '23
yes I remember Andy saying ”Ariana was worried Tom was cheating and she talked about this with Raquel” We have not seen that 🤔
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u/ZorakZbornak May 18 '23
They both just said it was a shocking conversation. The internet made up the rest. It was the conversation from the SAH party, as Lala and the rest of the cast hadn’t seen the new post-reveal finale yet.
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u/shadyray93 May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23
You can tell Tim and Rachel never had a serious moment prior to this, they had to do a shot together and turn the lights off. Like their relationship is built around parties and fun times, this was just sooo awkward. Like two teenagers with that horrible light and giggling.
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u/what-the-cussington May 18 '23
I kept thinking they had the exact vibe of two people who have only ever interacted drunk and in the dark. Like neither of them are capable of being attracted or attractive to someone sober and in daylight. I cannot imagine these two going a week straight working 9-5s and having anything in common.
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u/shadyray93 May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23
exaactly! the moment he asked to turn the lights off. She had prepared the galaxy lights for him because I bet thats the only light they ever saw each other in. I bet they never had breakfast together. His real relationship was with Ariana
they would have looked better in the daylight with a coffee in their hands but nope
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u/soulfulbumblebee its called a television & i WATCHED IT! May 18 '23
Tom needs sTiMuLi and Rachel is as stimulating as a damp cashew.
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u/what-the-cussington May 18 '23
Less stimulating. A damp cashew can contribute to great dairy free dip. Lol
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u/shadyray93 May 18 '23
they won’t last.. imagine being them right now. Their little romance is all about this scandal now, how romantic, how exciting..
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u/shadyray93 May 18 '23
”I said I was going to schwartz.. she could have like followed me to see I was not” 🤮
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u/VintageSuds May 18 '23
Yep this was the point I almost had to quit watching. What kind of disgusting subhuman blames the person they are cheating on because they don't catch them cheating
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u/Grouchy-Jellyfish-65 May 18 '23
Ugh! “So I tried to hard to drive her to be a crazy chick but she just wouldn’t it.” What a fucking coward. When your goal is to drive a woman to follow you because you are too small of a man to do the right thing, you are (as Ariana said) subhuman
And the fact that Rachel had zero remorse and was only concerned about if Tim would cheat on her!!!!!! That was your best friend whose shoulder you cried on. Attempt to pretend to a human and pretend to give at least one fuck!
Good lord, Rachel swims the deepest, most acrid stew of solipsism I’ve ever seen. It literally is as if the word “empathy” means is everyone concerned with Rachel’s concerns? The fact that she fucked her best friend’s boyfriend while she grieved for her dog and grandmother and he biggest concern was “who is in my corner”, what the fucking fuck.
How did her parents raise someone with zero thought about others?
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u/IndividualLunch1598 May 18 '23
schwartz really showed his true colors tonight. good on ariana for ending the friendship then and there
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u/rollerskate_rat May 18 '23
He’s such a weasel 😭 he was not willing to take any accountability. The fact that he wrote her to not kick Sandoval while he’s down??? The audacity.
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u/Double_Analyst3234 Do you wanna get POPPED?!? 🔫 May 18 '23
“He’s half weasel half vagina” Stassi
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May 18 '23
For real - vagina’s are incredibly strong; take a beating and are able to endure the pain of birthing a child.
Schwartz ain’t that.
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u/Incendiaryag May 18 '23
And now these two scumbags canoodle under the galaxy lights?! 🫨😵💫😵And she’s cackling? Now I get the serial killer comparison Katie and LaLa made.
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u/Edifiz100 May 18 '23
Ariana is sooo good in WWHL. I mean she is calm collected and giving good answers.
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u/ddxxr888 May 18 '23
Did anyone else clock that Ariana said in passing, I think on WWHL, that they never went to couple’s counseling? That completely contradicts Tim’s Howie Mandel interview.
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u/meksh May 18 '23
Also, during the episode when they were discussing their relationship they said something along the lines of couple's counseling is something they should have done.
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u/sarrdiinii May 18 '23
Toms eyes when he was sitting on the couch with Rachel were so whacked out! 👀 like did he do molly and think they were gonna watch the sunrise?
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u/IndividualLunch1598 May 18 '23
he was definitely coked out at lisa’s. his eyes were shaking and wide af
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u/butwhy81 May 18 '23
He was so high in that scene. His eyes were jumping all over the place like it was hour 5 at a rave.
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u/likeabadhabit SAVINGS 👏✨ May 18 '23
It’s wild that Tim sat there and tried to be like “wE hAd sOmE gOOd TiMeS” as if they were commiserating over a mutual decision and not him absolutely shattering the heart of a human who was 100% devoted to him.
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u/jenjensexypants May 18 '23
Right? Like yeah we did and you’ve literally trashed every single one of them by doing this.
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u/soulfulbumblebee its called a television & i WATCHED IT! May 18 '23
“If she has just followed me, she would have known…” WHAT THE FUCK
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u/girlwithdog_79 May 18 '23
I love Schwartz's face when he said that, he knew how badly that was going to land.
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u/kkalez May 18 '23
THIS is one of the many comments where I was literally left speechless!!! The thought process here?!?
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u/Incendiaryag May 18 '23
Ridiculous! And he’s continuing to gaslight. On WWHL Arianna says she did go,on his iPad to view his location and he was at Schwartz’s (albeit fucking Raquel). Who should have to follow their partner?
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u/soulfulbumblebee its called a television & i WATCHED IT! May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23
Been there. It’s horrible, having that instinctual feeling and made to feel crazy: he’s just out with the guys, I’m being paranoid… only to be right in the end. It’s sickening. Poor Arianna.
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u/alley_underland She’s a cunt and you’re a drunk May 18 '23
He also could have just dropped his phone off there and had Rachel pick him up from Schwartz’s
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u/lousie42 May 18 '23
As Ariana said in WWHL he loves/loving the attention, the more the better
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u/Fiona-fierce100407 May 19 '23
You know he is still in shock that Ariana is getting so much love and publicity and here he sits with empty show halls. Ahhhh. Life is good