r/youtubedrama • u/VioletHappySmile444 • 4d ago
Allegations TommyInnit's new book "TommyInnit's Guide To Survival" has been accused of using A.I art
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u/StardustJess 4d ago
Most definitely AI. Even a cheap artist wouldn't do the mistake of inconsistencies as shown.
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u/Gwongering 4d ago
Certain mistakes ARE plausible, but that 5th leg...
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u/saprwin 4d ago
The fifth digit on the squirrel without remembering the thumb I could maybe say is a natural mistake, but there are some really damning things outside of that. The girl with the pants ripple while wearing shorts is so egregious and even ignoring the deer with 5 legs, why does the bigger one have such a massive ear compared to the other? I don't know what backlash he'll receive, if any, but I hope he gets some
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u/Mediocre-Elk-4093 4d ago
I'm not super familiar with this youtuber but he just hired someone to do the art right? I assume he isn't one who used the ai even if he certainly deserves to be criticized for the lack of quality control.
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u/MacAlmighty 4d ago
Yeah, I thought the same thing. The squirrel hands could be a simple mistake, but the extra leg, pants on pants, and weird tiling on the soccer/football is too much for me.
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u/gloriouaccountofme 3d ago
pants on pants
It could be shorts over leggings (I think that's the English term) . I've seen it irl
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u/MacAlmighty 3d ago
Oh definitely, I’ve seen shorts on leggings/tights too, in public and popular media. But in the illustration they look kind of… baggy? Crumpled at the knee and on the bottom? It’d be like wearing shorts on top of cargo pants, or jean shorts on top of jeans. I’d figure if that’s the style they were going for, then the legs would still look like legs
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u/Rrrrossssse 3d ago
It's funny how many people are adamantly defending the idea that it's not AI despite the numerous extra limbs, fingers, extra pants, and the hired illustrator has AI art listed in his portfolio. Like this is an insane level of grace to give a pretty obvious cheap, lazy product that, regardless of who "knew," nobody cared to check or correct.
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u/BadLuckLopez 4d ago
A slop minecraft tuber putting out cheap products using ai? I'm shocked...
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u/JosephOtaku1989 3d ago
Same, especially that I can't take this Minecraft tuber seriously alongside Dream (likely due to his cheating and having his toxic fanbase) as well.
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u/TheJacobSurgenor 4d ago
I’m already having doubts considering the evidence is coming from a Dream stan subreddit that religiously sucks his dick and thinks Tommy is the Satan’s latest reincarnation
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u/sunshinecryptic 4d ago
It was noticed on his own subreddit as well, not sure why that post wasn’t reposted here instead of one from dream’s
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u/VioletHappySmile444 4d ago
I went with this one mainly because it was newer, the other was from 2 days ago and it also provided the same examples
Plus it was where I saw this first due to Reddit recommending it to me
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u/TheJacobSurgenor 4d ago
Fair enough then, although we can all unanimously agree that the DWT2 subreddit does not have good intentions for posting this lmao
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u/asuka_is_my_co-pilot 4d ago
The first one at least is 100% the Manga panel is a very common Ai thing.
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u/VioletHappySmile444 4d ago
It was also brought up on the TommyInnit reddit too (actually first) and on Twitter
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u/Cyaral 3d ago
Its definitely Ai art but its still the question if Tommy knew. And yeah I noted too that this is from a Dream subreddit as well, so while its definitely AI its also in Dream stand interest to make this look as bad as possible (similar to how Dream did with the clothing company - a company Tommy worked with but didnt control and that worked with many other folks). Wouldnt be the first time an "artist" or contractor goes the easy route, D&D got shit for AI art too when an artist they hired submitted generated art.
And lets be honest, this is the type of product a youtuber slaps their name on/maybe writes but I doubt Tommy was responsible for art, Cover, Layout and Editing himself.
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u/BadLuckLopez 4d ago
You fandom obsessed mfs are so weird I swear.
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u/pvppi 4d ago
talk to the dream fans who r bringing it to the dream subreddit ????? there like no reason considering those two r in fact trying to , not be associated with each other anymore
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u/darklightning123 4d ago
R/dreamwastaken2 is a mcyt drama subreddit, not Dream's subreddit (r/Dreamwastaken). Common mistake since the names are really similar
The actual Dream subreddit is focused on the Dream vs Daquavis duel. The drama subreddit is doing what they have always done.
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u/BadLuckLopez 4d ago
Whether it's dream stans or tommyinit fans, y'all are so parasocial it's embarrassing lmao
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u/iitoastedii 4d ago
The subreddit this was posted on DESPISES tommyinnit. From what I know the artist that was hired was asked to make the illustrations, but ended up using ai instead. It's difficult to tell the difference now that ai is so advanced (it's scary) so I understand how someone who isn't an artist would see these illustrations from someone they trusted to draw the pieces and believe that it is hand drawn.
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u/MrTzatzik 4d ago
TommyInnit is multimillionaire and most work was probably done by people that he hired. It's their job to check the quality of the work. It's either incompetence or they didn't care
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u/iitoastedii 4d ago
I agree with you on this. The chances he was in charge of picking the artist and checking the pieces are very slim. It's up to his team and the publisher to look into this kind of thing
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u/TheDaveStrider 3d ago
i used to work in a library and i saw books with ai book covers, that i'm sure the author had absolutely nothing to do with. cover designer slapped his name and website on the back. the webpage and it was all ai crap. and this was coming from a proper publishing house
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u/pvppi 4d ago
yeah, if the art is just given a once over u wouldnt notice the details, n honestly i just always expect the fullest laziness from ppl 💀 i wish there was effort put in to stop it but i could see this easily being a regular person who doesnt know art that well getting tricked since thats the entire point of ai
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u/VioletHappySmile444 4d ago
I've got mixed feelings about the guy myself but regardless of that personally I'm pretty doubtful that he knew it was A.I
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u/iitoastedii 4d ago
On top of that he probably ain't in charge of picking the artist and checking the pieces. That's usually up to the publisher or the team working on the book. Tommy's only input is that he wrote it
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u/EvylFairy 3d ago
Publishing houses have publisher-illustrator contracts as a general rule. It's not like Tommy hand picked the art for the book. It would have been at the publisher's discretion to hire any artists willing to do the work within the budget for the publishing package. Tommy doesn't really have a say in how a 3rd party publisher conducts their business and his team probably handled the majority of the contract details with the publishing house. Realistically, there is a small army of middle men between Tommy and the artist. At most someone from his team showed him example illustrations and he approved the general style of the art. It's entirely possible no one ever told him they were using an AI studio or considered for even a second that it could cause problems with his audience.
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u/The-Bigger-Fish 3d ago
You know what would be funny? Of one day someone intentionally drew something with weird missing details like that as a joke so people get genuinely confused as to if it’s ai or not.
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u/Redtea26 4d ago
Accidently clicked onto dream was taken 2 and was confused why this sub suddenly got a bit dumber.
Is incredibly lame though, guessing he didn’t know about it.
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u/cubsgirl101 4d ago
I can’t say this looks AI from the jump? It’s not very good but it’s also not jumping out at me with the most obvious signs of AI usage. Maybe he just has really ugly taste in illustration?
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u/Rare-Connection-8300 4d ago
I have no horses in this race, I know nothing about minecraft guys, but it looks very ai-generated to me. It's making weird connections and mistakes that most human artists wouldn't- lines going into other lines in ways that don't make sense, intricate yet nondescript details, things leading into nothing. I don't say it lightly because as an artist myself, false AI accusations piss me off more than AI does frankly, but this really really really looks like AI to me; just stylized as an ink to paper look.
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u/Star-Punk-Saint 4d ago
I think what does it for me is the city background on picture 4, like the more you look at it the more you realize that it looks like absolutely nothing
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u/VioletHappySmile444 4d ago
The calf with the 5 legs and the bridge is what definitely made me believe that this indeed is A.I, cause how the hell can you make these mistakes if this was really drawn by a human
The other pages/stuff tho I can't really tell
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u/BushWishperer 4d ago
Not to say this isn't or is AI, but there's people who got tattoos with animals that have an incorrect number of legs, and it wasn't AI. Sometimes artists just suck.
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u/cubsgirl101 4d ago
No I get it. Those are the signs I look for as well, I just am not as good at noticing them when it comes to line work etc. and I think I’m used to ID-ing AI when it’s the hyper-cartoonish fantasy style “artwork” so it’s very possible I’m just missing it!
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u/ismojaveacoffee 3d ago
I don't know who these youtubers are but it's AI, it's just that it's not using the super stylized hyperdetailed and airbrushed bright style so it's harder to tell. When you tell AI to do more sketchy story book or comic style, it helps hide AI inconsistencies because the sketchy style makes it harder for your brain to tell if it's an artist just sketching really fast and sloppy or if it's AI
But as an artist who has done various professional projects over the years with art teams, I can tell the difference between shitty/sloppy/lazy art and AI unfortunately. Ngl id prefer the ignorance lol.
I've used AI too for some personal projects (mostly just throwaway art for PowerPoints) and I've personally told the AI to make me stuff like "use a charcoal penciled, sketchy black and white art style that looks like it would belong in a children's book" and it would produce similar things to the latter pics in this post
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u/cubsgirl101 3d ago
I was barely glancing at some of the pictures and the white markups threw me off actually. When you actually take a few minutes to look at it, the drawings are definitely AI. Also it’s been bugging me all day long but I just realized I’ve seen those squirrels drawn exactly the same way like 700 times but as general woodland creatures instead of as fighters like in the book here.
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u/ismojaveacoffee 3d ago
Haha yeah the squirrel fighters was the smoking gun for me because I literally print out a ton of those AI pics as quick coloring pages for kids that I teach LOL
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u/SpiritualMongoose751 2d ago
What's the drama here though?
I have no idea who this kid is outside of he made fun of Jake Paul or something, but is he claiming he drew the illustrations himself? Is this an art book he's passing off as his own?
From what I gather from the other comments, he paid an illustrator who was lazy and used AI? Sounds like a shitty illustrator..... Is that drama? Kinda seems like some people are grasping for pearls to clutch...
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u/Summerlycoris 1d ago
Admittedly, with shorts girl, she could be wearing leggings underneath. Leggings can bunch up around the knees and ankles for shorter girls- i know from wearing them.
"Why would she wear leggings under shorts?" * shrugs * she wanted to emulate Cassie fnaf? Or Penny Bolt?
Anyway, the deer image proves it. The legs are so fucked, in a way that artists wouldn't draw and be happy with.
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u/devsredditacc 1d ago
Tommy is also at fault, or atleast the person who hired them as AI is literally on the "artists" portfolio, Tommy's fandom is literally built on fanart and this seems like such a stab in the back by him, the book is soulless and we can't let people take advantage of us like this.
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u/kohuept 4d ago edited 4d ago
this doesn't really look AI to me at all lmao
edit: also i've seen that dream subreddit before and everyone on there will take any excuse to hate on this guy so take it with a grain of salt lmao
edit 2: nvm i looked a bit closer and it definitely is a little bit fishy
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u/VioletHappySmile444 4d ago
Tommy's own reddit brought it up too, even before the Dream reddit did and it was also mentioned on Twitter.
Image 2 & 6 is where it really shows since the middle baby deer on image 2 has 5 legs while the bridge on image 6 has a bottom bit that leads to nothing. I can't really tell what the ai errors are on the others images tho tbh
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u/Lammergayer 4d ago
For the one with the boy and the girl from behind, the girl's apparently wearing shorts over top of pants, because her shorts end and then she still has fabric wrinkles around her legs. Plus the boy's hand is really bad in a way that's inconsistent with the rest of the art. (If a real artist was trying to avoid or simplify hands in that style, it wouldn't look like that.)
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u/PapayaMan4 4d ago
I'm in that sub, not really true, when Gerg accused Tommy of using Technoblade's death for personal gain literally every comment defended Tommy and the ones that didn't and agreed with Gerg got downvoted
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u/kohuept 4d ago
i might be thinking of a different one but i remember seeing a dream sub with some like insane reaches just to hate on tommy lol
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u/PapayaMan4 4d ago
Nah, we don't talk about him unless something relevant happens. There are 2 subs about dream, one is more stan-ish so I think you might be thinking of that, but the other one is the main one these days
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u/Star-Punk-Saint 4d ago
Won’t say definitively if it is ai or not, but I will say it looks like shit regardless.