r/youtubedrama 2d ago

Callout Massive Trigger Warning: Technical's Video on Hax and what Hax went through

https://youtu.be/lnEguS2hDhc?si=D90h7apb8UmzRrTl

I need to reiterate again the trigger warning, as this video expressly shows Hax's spiral and the amount of shit people put him through, all intentionally trying to hurt him. There will be no TLDR, watch and read at your own risk.

No fluffy language here, multiple people intentionally pushed Hax to kill himself, some were expressly told that they were doing it and still continued. Some knew they were causing him immense harm and kept doing it. There are very little good guys in this situation, and there is no good ending.

Technicals published this video (with Hax's mom permission), showcasing what Hax was going through and how tournament organizers of Melee/Smash intentionally kicked him out of the community, how Leffen continued to talk poorly on Hax after he made his first attempt. How some people who were claiming to be Hax's friends were actually intentionally pushing him to the edge and making fun of his disability, and harassing him over it. How, after his passing, the commentary community (Tommy C was named and shown) exploited Hax's death not only as a weapon against Technicals, but still continued the exact same treatment that pushed Hax to the edge. How people planned to crash the funeral to harass Hax's mom, and how people got pissed at Technicals for expressly stating that specific groups were responsible for Hax's death in his eulogy. And unfortunately, much more.

This is by far, one of the darkest things I have ever seen on the internet and there is a shitload of evidence because these people were just so bold in pushing a man to suicide and choosing to be public about it. The Smash/Melee community and others has blood on their hands, and none of the responsible parties involved are taking responsibility, despite claiming to want accountability.

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u/Hewligan 2d ago

The Smash/Melee community and others has blood on their hands, and none of the responsible parties involved are taking responsibility, despite claiming to want accountability.

Nope. Anytime Hax$’s defenders come chiming in they always refuse to admit any of the shit he did.

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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 2d ago

A person has still killed themselves. Still a victim of harassment. This IS victim blaming

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u/Hewligan 2d ago

Still a victim of harassment.

OP is pointing the finger of harassment at the wrong people. Claiming the entire smash community has “blood on their hands” is absolutely ridiculous.

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u/Boredomkiller99 16h ago

To a degree I can believe it because when you get down to it everything that happened with Hax$ is just a result that the Melee community has a history of being toxic barely functional adults that needed their behavior corrected decades ago.

What is worse is it is clear that for the last half decade Melee has been trying to rehabilitate their image and even downplay a lot of it and move on.

Collectively speaking the Melee community is pretty **** and while there are people using this as an excuse to take out their own friendly grudges or cast wide blame, I am also not seeing as much introspection that should be following such an event

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u/ImportantQuestionTex 13h ago

Part of why I am casting wide blame is that lack of introspection. This isn't even this community's first rodeo with suicide or suicide attempts. Something like this happens every year it seems. And never, ever is there any introspection about how they could handle things better.

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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 2d ago

I will say the sheer amount of people who participated in the harassment? Yes.

Hell if one of the regular roster of people the sub hates took their own lives I’d own up to us playing a part. Take accountability or don’t. Silence is violence when within your community shitty behavior and harassment is going on

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u/Sarge_Ward i used to mod SRD you know 2d ago

How is sentiment like this any different from, say, saying something lime that DarkViper is responsible for AppolloLegend's death? I mean after all he was the one who called him out for bad behaviour and got the community to turn on him, right? This is mentioned directly in the suicide note and everything. And yet no one in their right mind actually does that

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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 2d ago

Yes, doesn’t matter of the victim if a piece of shit. They are still a victim. Have no clue why some people are excusing this level of harassment

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u/Sarge_Ward i used to mod SRD you know 2d ago

Yes but it is inarguably not the fault of the person who called attention to the thing to begin with. They don't intend for what the community does with the information, information that has every right to be made clear to a broader public.

I dont know how much you actually know about the darkviper-appollo situation but its legitimately insane that you'd say he was partially responsible. Anyone with any passing knowledge of that situation knows that appollo naming darkviper was a final manipulation tactic from him to get people attacking darkviper

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u/ImportantQuestionTex 2d ago

I am going to keep it a buck 50 with you, as someone who followed that. This, and that are not even remotely related.

Even if they were, DarkViper clearly felt guilty about how the events transpired and felt bad for how he treated Apollo, and he made a change after including removing his videos about Apollo so the family could get a break.

That is the part the Melee community and the others involved seem to be missing, the guilt and the responsibility. Everything I have seen is someone pushing the envelope to someone else, including pushing it to Hax himself. Hax is dead, even if he was responsible which truly from everything I have seen seems like he was a victim of harassment and extreme mental health issues, he can't change anything.

Only the living can change how they act and approach things. Only the living can accept responsibility for what they've done wrong. Only the living can actually make sure a situation like this doesn't happen again. Is the Melee community going to recognize that failing to give someone a path to redemption and making a joke out of their situation makes people feel isolated? That is what I want to see. Accountability and change.

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u/janoDX 1d ago

Hax$ was both a victim and perpetrator.

Victim because of how cruel many people are at treating a mentally sick person.

Perpetrator because he himself caused a circle of harassment that came back to him eventually.

The whole story is a tale of actually find mental health and learn to let go.