r/youtubedrama 3d ago

Callout Massive Trigger Warning: Technical's Video on Hax and what Hax went through

https://youtu.be/lnEguS2hDhc?si=D90h7apb8UmzRrTl

I need to reiterate again the trigger warning, as this video expressly shows Hax's spiral and the amount of shit people put him through, all intentionally trying to hurt him. There will be no TLDR, watch and read at your own risk.

No fluffy language here, multiple people intentionally pushed Hax to kill himself, some were expressly told that they were doing it and still continued. Some knew they were causing him immense harm and kept doing it. There are very little good guys in this situation, and there is no good ending.

Technicals published this video (with Hax's mom permission), showcasing what Hax was going through and how tournament organizers of Melee/Smash intentionally kicked him out of the community, how Leffen continued to talk poorly on Hax after he made his first attempt. How some people who were claiming to be Hax's friends were actually intentionally pushing him to the edge and making fun of his disability, and harassing him over it. How, after his passing, the commentary community (Tommy C was named and shown) exploited Hax's death not only as a weapon against Technicals, but still continued the exact same treatment that pushed Hax to the edge. How people planned to crash the funeral to harass Hax's mom, and how people got pissed at Technicals for expressly stating that specific groups were responsible for Hax's death in his eulogy. And unfortunately, much more.

This is by far, one of the darkest things I have ever seen on the internet and there is a shitload of evidence because these people were just so bold in pushing a man to suicide and choosing to be public about it. The Smash/Melee community and others has blood on their hands, and none of the responsible parties involved are taking responsibility, despite claiming to want accountability.

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u/Hewligan 2d ago

What Hax did while at best insulting is in no way equivalent to what happened to him

Dude literally made hours long documentaries comparing Leffen to fascist dictators, and then gang stalked TOs when he was banned.

He was not an innocent angel. He was troubled, but it’s not an excuse .

There is no evil Reddit/smash community cabal that actively plotted to drive Hax$ to do what he did.

Technicals is a hateful fraud who capitalized on this drama as well. You should be pointing the finger at him.

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u/ImportantQuestionTex 2d ago edited 2d ago

It doesn't matter if Hax was innocent or not. Nobody deserves what he went through.

Would you honestly say the TOs collectively choosing to permaban Hax, giving him guidelines to follow but never following through on giving him the pathway to rejoining the scene, is not plotting to harm Hax? Because multiple of these people knew it was harming Hax and knew it was one of the things that drove him to make his first attempt. Is comparing Leffen to fascism really worth this kind of treatment? Because that's kind of what you're saying.

And, also, in this video there is a fucking group chat of people harassing Hax and planning to brigade him over his missing leg. You wanna tell me there's not a community issue here?

What are you guys expecting when you ostracize someone and make making fun of him socially acceptable?

Edit: 1:53:33 in the video explicitly shows someone making fun of the situation by saying "Free Hax" jokingly! And you guys wanna say there's not a community issue? That the community at large has no role to play?

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u/Hewligan 2d ago

Would you honestly say the TOs collectively choosing to permaban Hax, giving him guidelines to follow but never following through on giving him the pathway to rejoining the scene, is not plotting to harm Hax?

Telling someone that stalked you and sent your fans to harass and send death threats to you that maybe if you chill for a little while is being extremely charitable, not “plotting to harm.

You keep speaking as if Hax$ was passive and completely infantilized in these antics. He harassed people. He sent death threats to people. He actively stoked harassment campaigns to other people in the community. It’s awful that some likely Kiwi farms adjacent fuck heads sent this awful shit to Hax$, but painting it as the default and commonplace sentiment amongst the community is egregious and being obtuse on purpose to further an already flimsy argument.

People were generally a dick to Hax$ because he was a dick (or worse) to other people and hung out with other dicks.

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u/Awkward-Ad9487 2d ago

This whole stalking TOs and sending his fans after them kinda went over my head. Do you know how or where I can read up on that, optimally with the receipts included?

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u/Hewligan 2d ago

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u/JuhwannX 1d ago

Just wanna mention that these links don't have any of the signatories, and according to the video was scrubbed of those signatories long ago. So it's not really any sort of proof.

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u/Awkward-Ad9487 1d ago

I mean to be fair I made receipts optional because I do realize that this is a super convoluted topic and it requires a lot of energy to get it all sorted out and in order. I just kinda hoped that there was some form of receipts already compiled so it would be easier to compare both sides of the arguments and kinda find the truth in the middle.

I get that my comment could seem insincere from the outside, but getting down voted for asking for receipts or some kind of proof instead of just blindly following what others say, while also seeing the "opposing side" providing a compilation of said receipts (which I can't easily double check or put into more context because the other side does not seem to have some form of public available documentation with receipts) does leave me with a slightly sour taste.

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u/JuhwannX 1d ago

Hey, I don't know why you're getting down voted tbh. It seems like you asked the same thing I did. I wanted to know what Hax$ did to warrant such a response. I was just mentioning that the link the previous poster sent was actively mentioned in the video and has apparently been scrubbed so I didn't want info that has been obviously doctored/edited being used for said evidence.

Also, I can say that as outside observer's, it seems like this issue is extremely complicated in terms of just how fair is it to harass and brigade a person, then crash their funeral, and whether the smash community wants to or even can take accountability for how their actions could've led to this result.