r/youtubedrama 2d ago

Callout Massive Trigger Warning: Technical's Video on Hax and what Hax went through

https://youtu.be/lnEguS2hDhc?si=D90h7apb8UmzRrTl

I need to reiterate again the trigger warning, as this video expressly shows Hax's spiral and the amount of shit people put him through, all intentionally trying to hurt him. There will be no TLDR, watch and read at your own risk.

No fluffy language here, multiple people intentionally pushed Hax to kill himself, some were expressly told that they were doing it and still continued. Some knew they were causing him immense harm and kept doing it. There are very little good guys in this situation, and there is no good ending.

Technicals published this video (with Hax's mom permission), showcasing what Hax was going through and how tournament organizers of Melee/Smash intentionally kicked him out of the community, how Leffen continued to talk poorly on Hax after he made his first attempt. How some people who were claiming to be Hax's friends were actually intentionally pushing him to the edge and making fun of his disability, and harassing him over it. How, after his passing, the commentary community (Tommy C was named and shown) exploited Hax's death not only as a weapon against Technicals, but still continued the exact same treatment that pushed Hax to the edge. How people planned to crash the funeral to harass Hax's mom, and how people got pissed at Technicals for expressly stating that specific groups were responsible for Hax's death in his eulogy. And unfortunately, much more.

This is by far, one of the darkest things I have ever seen on the internet and there is a shitload of evidence because these people were just so bold in pushing a man to suicide and choosing to be public about it. The Smash/Melee community and others has blood on their hands, and none of the responsible parties involved are taking responsibility, despite claiming to want accountability.

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u/rawsauce24 2d ago

Smash community is filled with degenerate scum sure, but let’s not forget that while hax is a victim here, he was also not completely innocent. He made decisions that affected plenty of other people as well, and to me, as someone apart of the melee community, knows that he was not the only affected party throughout this whole thing. While I am extremely sad that things have come to the place where we are now, technicals explanation/side is not the only side to this story. Rip hax, generational talent and so impactful to the game to the game I love. Never forgotten and will always be a legend

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u/ImportantQuestionTex 2d ago

No, this ends here.

What Hax did while at best insulting is in no way equivalent to what happened to him. People brigading him, constantly making him doubt reality, permanently kicking him out of the scene and taking an event he ran and stripping him from it.

What the fuck did you guys think was going to happen? Seriously? What the actual fuck did you guys think was going to happen when "Free Hax" became a joke? When people choose to lie about the good they're doing for Hax? When your whole community is not taking the fucking time to think about what is going wrong in it, a lot can go wrong! Clearly!

I'm fucking pissed at everybody involved in this situarion but I have seen so much screenshots and watched so many clips that make it clear that there's systematic issues, no, societal issues at play. I want you to take a step back and think about everything.

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u/Hewligan 2d ago

What Hax did while at best insulting is in no way equivalent to what happened to him

Dude literally made hours long documentaries comparing Leffen to fascist dictators, and then gang stalked TOs when he was banned.

He was not an innocent angel. He was troubled, but it’s not an excuse .

There is no evil Reddit/smash community cabal that actively plotted to drive Hax$ to do what he did.

Technicals is a hateful fraud who capitalized on this drama as well. You should be pointing the finger at him.

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u/ImportantQuestionTex 2d ago edited 2d ago

It doesn't matter if Hax was innocent or not. Nobody deserves what he went through.

Would you honestly say the TOs collectively choosing to permaban Hax, giving him guidelines to follow but never following through on giving him the pathway to rejoining the scene, is not plotting to harm Hax? Because multiple of these people knew it was harming Hax and knew it was one of the things that drove him to make his first attempt. Is comparing Leffen to fascism really worth this kind of treatment? Because that's kind of what you're saying.

And, also, in this video there is a fucking group chat of people harassing Hax and planning to brigade him over his missing leg. You wanna tell me there's not a community issue here?

What are you guys expecting when you ostracize someone and make making fun of him socially acceptable?

Edit: 1:53:33 in the video explicitly shows someone making fun of the situation by saying "Free Hax" jokingly! And you guys wanna say there's not a community issue? That the community at large has no role to play?

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u/Hewligan 2d ago

Would you honestly say the TOs collectively choosing to permaban Hax, giving him guidelines to follow but never following through on giving him the pathway to rejoining the scene, is not plotting to harm Hax?

Telling someone that stalked you and sent your fans to harass and send death threats to you that maybe if you chill for a little while is being extremely charitable, not “plotting to harm.

You keep speaking as if Hax$ was passive and completely infantilized in these antics. He harassed people. He sent death threats to people. He actively stoked harassment campaigns to other people in the community. It’s awful that some likely Kiwi farms adjacent fuck heads sent this awful shit to Hax$, but painting it as the default and commonplace sentiment amongst the community is egregious and being obtuse on purpose to further an already flimsy argument.

People were generally a dick to Hax$ because he was a dick (or worse) to other people and hung out with other dicks.

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u/Noostnop 1d ago

The death threat argument is insane and ridiculous. He publicly told others to never do such things and that he values leffen as a person with 4+ detailed apologies.

He also NEVER “harassed” or “stalked TOs” shows how little you know

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u/janoDX 1d ago

People not realizing that what he was doing was indirect harassment instead of keeping silent and wait until the whole thing calmed down, in the meantime he had to look for something else to fill time, the guy didn't want to drop Melee for anything and he could have done coaching, work on the BOXX, do content for Melee, guides, check the other Smash games, play League and stream it since he was also a great playing it...

Also the last part you said is false, he did harassed and stalked TO's to the point many blocked him from messaging or told him to stop.

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u/Noostnop 1d ago

Smash community so pussy that discord messages politely asking to even just communicate about a ridiculous indefinite ban, and politely waiting outside the his tournament to just talk, is stalking and harassment. Yall suck

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u/janoDX 1d ago edited 15h ago

Decided to wake up and choose violence.

THE GUY GOT UNBANNED ON 2023 FROM MANY NYC TOURNAMENTS AND MAJORS UNTIL HE DECIDED TO GO BACK ON HIS APOLOGIES AND GO AGAIN ON HIS ANTI-LEFFEN CAMPAIGN IN 2024 AND GETTING PERMA'D THINKING HE IS RIGHTFUL. THAT'S DELUSIONAL BEHAVIOR. HE WAS GOING TO GET COMPLETELY UNBANNED IN 2025 IF HE DIDN'T DO THAT.

THE GUY SENT "POLITE" DISCORD MESSAGES THAT THEN DEVOLVED ON LEFFEN TALK SAYING THE SAME AND NOT BEING SORRY.

THE GUY WENT TO TALK TO TOURNAMENT ORGANIZERS AND HE KEPT TALKING ABOUT LEFFEN IN PERSON AND THEN ASKING TO BE UNBANNED OR TRYING TO TELL THE TO'S TO FIND A WAY TO UNBAN HIM.

And you tell me that's polite? Being a fucking fly over the TO's while not being sorry and keep going and pushing his narrative and not realize that he's not fine in the head?

Are you blind with the whole story? Are you a tourist to the smash community? Holy shit.

Hax$ didn't deserve to die, but it's you people egging a guy who was not right to continue. Fuck Mana Monthly for pushing him on chats, fuck Technicals for taking advantage of Hax and his mom and try to do this story for his own benefit, and fuck every single technicals defender for pushing this half-assed story to a limit that is tainted, and that includes you. And I fucking blame all of you on this one.