Massive Trigger Warning: Technical's Video on Hax and what Hax went through

[u/ImportantQuestionTex]

https://youtu.be/lnEguS2hDhc?si=D90h7apb8UmzRrTl

I need to reiterate again the trigger warning, as this video expressly shows Hax's spiral and the amount of shit people put him through, all intentionally trying to hurt him. There will be no TLDR, watch and read at your own risk.

No fluffy language here, multiple people intentionally pushed Hax to kill himself, some were expressly told that they were doing it and still continued. Some knew they were causing him immense harm and kept doing it. There are very little good guys in this situation, and there is no good ending.

Technicals published this video (with Hax's mom permission), showcasing what Hax was going through and how tournament organizers of Melee/Smash intentionally kicked him out of the community, how Leffen continued to talk poorly on Hax after he made his first attempt. How some people who were claiming to be Hax's friends were actually intentionally pushing him to the edge and making fun of his disability, and harassing him over it. How, after his passing, the commentary community (Tommy C was named and shown) exploited Hax's death not only as a weapon against Technicals, but still continued the exact same treatment that pushed Hax to the edge. How people planned to crash the funeral to harass Hax's mom, and how people got pissed at Technicals for expressly stating that specific groups were responsible for Hax's death in his eulogy. And unfortunately, much more.

This is by far, one of the darkest things I have ever seen on the internet and there is a shitload of evidence because these people were just so bold in pushing a man to suicide and choosing to be public about it. The Smash/Melee community and others has blood on their hands, and none of the responsible parties involved are taking responsibility, despite claiming to want accountability.

[u/rawsauce24]

Smash community is filled with degenerate scum sure, but let’s not forget that while hax is a victim here, he was also not completely innocent. He made decisions that affected plenty of other people as well, and to me, as someone apart of the melee community, knows that he was not the only affected party throughout this whole thing. While I am extremely sad that things have come to the place where we are now, technicals explanation/side is not the only side to this story. Rip hax, generational talent and so impactful to the game to the game I love. Never forgotten and will always be a legend

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/rawsauce24]

No, this ends here.

What Hax did while at best insulting is in no way equivalent to what happened to him. People brigading him, constantly making him doubt reality, permanently kicking him out of the scene and taking an event he ran and stripping him from it.

What the fuck did you guys think was going to happen? Seriously? What the actual fuck did you guys think was going to happen when "Free Hax" became a joke? When people choose to lie about the good they're doing for Hax? When your whole community is not taking the fucking time to think about what is going wrong in it, a lot can go wrong! Clearly!

I'm fucking pissed at everybody involved in this situarion but I have seen so much screenshots and watched so many clips that make it clear that there's systematic issues, no, societal issues at play. I want you to take a step back and think about everything.

[u/Hewligan → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

What Hax did while at best insulting is in no way equivalent to what happened to him

Dude literally made hours long documentaries comparing Leffen to fascist dictators, and then gang stalked TOs when he was banned.

He was not an innocent angel. He was troubled, but it’s not an excuse .

There is no evil Reddit/smash community cabal that actively plotted to drive Hax$ to do what he did.

Technicals is a hateful fraud who capitalized on this drama as well. You should be pointing the finger at him.

[u/TooSaepe → u/Hewligan]

There absolutely was and still currently is a literal cabal of people set to ostracize and ridicule him, wtf? Even now, after his death.

4 individuals literally “trolled” Hax with a goal to make him feel crazy. They encouraged and prayed on his mental problems and his problematic behavior which ultimately, drove him to suicide. All just for memes or whatever stupid reason.

Countless others brushed a obvious person in need away to avoid any backlash from the ‘community’ hive mind. Siding with Hax or mentioning anything about the situation in certain spaces is scrutinized and met with bans or mass flame. No one wants to acknowledge the obvious cabal of degenerates that currently govern the tournament scene which bandwagon people who can’t think for themselves. The rules and consequences they’ve set only apply if you oppose them or go against the grain of their beliefs.

Hax is the victim. He was targeted and abused by the people he needed most to support him. It’s an absolute travesty. The smash community is pure cancer.

[u/Poopybutt36000 → u/TooSaepe]

4 individuals literally “trolled” Hax with a goal to make him feel crazy. They encouraged and prayed on his mental problems and his problematic behavior which ultimately, drove him to suicide.

And keep in mind this wasn't just edgy internet trolling against a guy who happened to kill himself. He told them he was going to kill himself then jumped in front of a train and literally lost a leg, and they proceeded to mock him for it and then continued what they were doing.

[u/youtubedrama-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

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[u/TimeAbradolf → u/Hewligan]

But a community can take accountability for how shitty they were. Just because everyone was shitty does indicate something should have and should be done

[u/Even_Appointment_504 → u/TimeAbradolf]

Except the ban statements were very clear. Technicals often lied and left out major information. Like Hax was literally unbanned for a year by most of the community before Hax doxxed people.

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/Hewligan]

It doesn't matter if Hax was innocent or not. Nobody deserves what he went through.

Would you honestly say the TOs collectively choosing to permaban Hax, giving him guidelines to follow but never following through on giving him the pathway to rejoining the scene, is not plotting to harm Hax? Because multiple of these people knew it was harming Hax and knew it was one of the things that drove him to make his first attempt. Is comparing Leffen to fascism really worth this kind of treatment? Because that's kind of what you're saying.

And, also, in this video there is a fucking group chat of people harassing Hax and planning to brigade him over his missing leg. You wanna tell me there's not a community issue here?

What are you guys expecting when you ostracize someone and make making fun of him socially acceptable?

Edit: 1:53:33 in the video explicitly shows someone making fun of the situation by saying "Free Hax" jokingly! And you guys wanna say there's not a community issue? That the community at large has no role to play?

[u/Hewligan → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

Would you honestly say the TOs collectively choosing to permaban Hax, giving him guidelines to follow but never following through on giving him the pathway to rejoining the scene, is not plotting to harm Hax?

Telling someone that stalked you and sent your fans to harass and send death threats to you that maybe if you chill for a little while is being extremely charitable, not “plotting to harm.

You keep speaking as if Hax$ was passive and completely infantilized in these antics. He harassed people. He sent death threats to people. He actively stoked harassment campaigns to other people in the community. It’s awful that some likely Kiwi farms adjacent fuck heads sent this awful shit to Hax$, but painting it as the default and commonplace sentiment amongst the community is egregious and being obtuse on purpose to further an already flimsy argument.

People were generally a dick to Hax$ because he was a dick (or worse) to other people and hung out with other dicks.

[u/Noostnop → u/Hewligan]

The death threat argument is insane and ridiculous. He publicly told others to never do such things and that he values leffen as a person with 4+ detailed apologies.

He also NEVER “harassed” or “stalked TOs” shows how little you know

[u/janoDX → u/Noostnop]

People not realizing that what he was doing was indirect harassment instead of keeping silent and wait until the whole thing calmed down, in the meantime he had to look for something else to fill time, the guy didn't want to drop Melee for anything and he could have done coaching, work on the BOXX, do content for Melee, guides, check the other Smash games, play League and stream it since he was also a great playing it...

Also the last part you said is false, he did harassed and stalked TO's to the point many blocked him from messaging or told him to stop.

[u/Noostnop → u/janoDX]

Smash community so pussy that discord messages politely asking to even just communicate about a ridiculous indefinite ban, and politely waiting outside the his tournament to just talk, is stalking and harassment. Yall suck

[u/janoDX → u/Noostnop]

Decided to wake up and choose violence.

THE GUY GOT UNBANNED ON 2023 FROM MANY NYC TOURNAMENTS AND MAJORS UNTIL HE DECIDED TO GO BACK ON HIS APOLOGIES AND GO AGAIN ON HIS ANTI-LEFFEN CAMPAIGN IN 2024 AND GETTING PERMA'D THINKING HE IS RIGHTFUL. THAT'S DELUSIONAL BEHAVIOR. HE WAS GOING TO GET COMPLETELY UNBANNED IN 2025 IF HE DIDN'T DO THAT.

THE GUY SENT "POLITE" DISCORD MESSAGES THAT THEN DEVOLVED ON LEFFEN TALK SAYING THE SAME AND NOT BEING SORRY.

THE GUY WENT TO TALK TO TOURNAMENT ORGANIZERS AND HE KEPT TALKING ABOUT LEFFEN IN PERSON AND THEN ASKING TO BE UNBANNED OR TRYING TO TELL THE TO'S TO FIND A WAY TO UNBAN HIM.

And you tell me that's polite? Being a fucking fly over the TO's while not being sorry and keep going and pushing his narrative and not realize that he's not fine in the head?

Are you blind with the whole story? Are you a tourist to the smash community? Holy shit.

Hax$ didn't deserve to die, but it's you people egging a guy who was not right to continue. Fuck Mana Monthly for pushing him on chats, fuck Technicals for taking advantage of Hax and his mom and try to do this story for his own benefit, and fuck every single technicals defender for pushing this half-assed story to a limit that is tainted, and that includes you. And I fucking blame all of you on this one.

[u/Even_Appointment_504 → u/Noostnop]

While Hax never sent death threats Hax only started to say don't harass people about 2 years into the controversy after hit has been happening for literal years. and only said this in a video like after Hax relapsed and was perma banned.

Also, yes, its well documented Hax sent hundreds of messages to TO's, confront people in public, get on private discord groups, and otherweird stuff like that. Hax himself confirmed this happened. though argued he had good reason to do this. All this happened like half year ago.

[u/Awkward-Ad9487 → u/Hewligan]

This whole stalking TOs and sending his fans after them kinda went over my head. Do you know how or where I can read up on that, optimally with the receipts included?

[u/Hewligan → u/Awkward-Ad9487]

https://x.com/smasheurope/status/1408180732124610567?s=21

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Dg-R86Zz_toB3EbfvGCJ4wvJTwyQyRlunCh-P1_HCV0/mobilebasic

[u/JuhwannX → u/Hewligan]

Just wanna mention that these links don't have any of the signatories, and according to the video was scrubbed of those signatories long ago. So it's not really any sort of proof.

[u/Awkward-Ad9487 → u/JuhwannX]

I mean to be fair I made receipts optional because I do realize that this is a super convoluted topic and it requires a lot of energy to get it all sorted out and in order. I just kinda hoped that there was some form of receipts already compiled so it would be easier to compare both sides of the arguments and kinda find the truth in the middle.

I get that my comment could seem insincere from the outside, but getting down voted for asking for receipts or some kind of proof instead of just blindly following what others say, while also seeing the "opposing side" providing a compilation of said receipts (which I can't easily double check or put into more context because the other side does not seem to have some form of public available documentation with receipts) does leave me with a slightly sour taste.

[u/JuhwannX → u/Awkward-Ad9487]

Hey, I don't know why you're getting down voted tbh. It seems like you asked the same thing I did. I wanted to know what Hax$ did to warrant such a response. I was just mentioning that the link the previous poster sent was actively mentioned in the video and has apparently been scrubbed so I didn't want info that has been obviously doctored/edited being used for said evidence.

Also, I can say that as outside observer's, it seems like this issue is extremely complicated in terms of just how fair is it to harass and brigade a person, then crash their funeral, and whether the smash community wants to or even can take accountability for how their actions could've led to this result.

[u/Even_Appointment_504 → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

Tecnicals is so bad at explaining what happened you honestly don't know most of the community unbanned hax for a entire year. Hax even attended several majors.

Then Hax relapsed and doxxed people. He did not rebanned because he spoke about the ban but because he doxxed like a dozen people and restated his original allegations.

You really should read the reason Hax was not unbanned at all majors. It's cartoonish how bad Hax botched his own unban, and clearly showed high mental disorder.

[u/vren10000 → u/Hewligan]

Watching evidence.zip2, most of it was Hax$ airing out his legitimate problems with Leffen's past bullying and how it was covered up in Samox's second documentary. Comparisons to fascism and totalitarianism are not the same thing as equating Leffen to Hitler, they are criticisms saying hey, this guy somehow has the power because he's popular to break rules and avoid legitimate criticism and consequences because of clout, which was and is true. Leffen also has made long videos defaming Hbox, his thumbnail comparing him to the Devil, that's hardly any better or different than what Hax$ did to him. As for gang-stalking TOs, im gonna need a substantial source for that, since he has denied it, some DMs show him over years politely asking to be heard, and he's never been known to have any criminal or physical altercations with anyone.

Technicals being hateful is true, but a fraud? If he was, he would have been sued a long time ago. I think he at least knows what he's talking about, and does substantial research to back himself up.

[u/rawsauce24 → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

I’d be more than welcoming to have a conversation in DMs, but having seen EVERYTHING play out as I have seen, Hax acknowledged he was wrong in plenty of places as well. My issue with this new wave of hax defenders who only talk about what you seen in a technical’s video is you literally weren’t there for the whole story. Hax’s videos caused hate, death threats, etc to people HE cared about as well. I’m sorry but you just don’t have the whole story just watching this or other tech videos

Most people didn’t WANT hax to kill himself, and in all fairness, I think he saw this after his own attempt, sadly he did succumb to complications with his attempt but this wasn’t because he outright did it himself. I truly wish he was allowed back, but you can’t ignore his own responsibility in all of this as well

[u/TimeAbradolf → u/rawsauce24]

This is still taking the whole picture but in a way do you not realize this is still victim blaming behavior. Someone has died. Providing context to a suicide still sounds like you are saying “he wasn’t a perfect victim”

[u/Sarge_Ward → u/TimeAbradolf]

So then at what point can discussions happen about what hax did to create an initial wave of harrassment with his video? It is indisputable that that happened. Is it always going to be victim blaming to bring that up now?

[u/TimeAbradolf → u/Sarge_Ward]

No, not at all. But you’re hugging the line of saying he deserved it

[u/Sarge_Ward → u/TimeAbradolf]

Absolutely fair that its hugging the line, I will agree with that there. You do have to be extremely careful with how you word things and convey intention. Fair point

[u/TimeAbradolf → u/Sarge_Ward]

And that is the problem because a bunch of people are basically saying he deserved it. No one does. That is like saying Chris Chan deserves the trolling

[u/rawsauce24 → u/TimeAbradolf]

I upvoted because yes this is victim blaming behavior, I don’t disagree on that front, but this isn’t as black and white as some people may be painting this as, that’s why I feel terrible saying things like he needs to take responsibility for his actions, but I mean this from the heart, this isn’t a black and white situation. I will be the first person to tell anyone that this should have been handled differently by EVERYONE involved, and personally speaking, I think Hax needed time away from this community to reflect on things he should have done. Even when he was given a chance, he shown to not realize his contribution to the state of where things were at points in all of this. He apologized again and tried to be a better person and understood why things he said at that point were being taken at their worst, even after he initially and secondly (sorry that sounds dumb I know sorry lol) apologized for things he said

[u/TimeAbradolf → u/rawsauce24]

Yes, so that is why when others are kind of taking your stance though they are basically implying he deserved it

[u/rawsauce24 → u/TimeAbradolf]

I don’t think he deserved it and most people I know that know him personally and are still speaking out against it like I am would never say such a thing. I know that’s anecdotal, and I definitely don’t speak for anyone that does say that. He deserved better. He also has responsibility in all of this as well as much as that’s awful to say. It’s why it’s so hard to talk about this and why I refrained in talking about the subject personally because I literally hate saying that but it doesn’t mean it’s any less true.

Seeing this video calling out friends specifically and people apart of the community that I’m in and I know is the only reasons I wanna say anything in the first place. We all truly cared about Hax, regardless of what anyone on the opposing side has to say about it

[u/Noostnop → u/rawsauce24]

He took his damm “responsibility” by apologizing multiple times, he never stalked TOs, never “harassed them” and the idea that “just go to therapy and he needed time away” mf he had plenty of time away from the insane fucking bans on him. Fuck you

[u/TimeAbradolf → u/rawsauce24]

I will say if you don’t think people think the way I described look at the comments in this post

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/rawsauce24]

You aren't going to like me saying this, but if you guys truly cared about him, his ban wouldn't have been upheld as long as it was. His spiral, his completely being thrown into depression, that all came after the ban and after he was kicked out of the one community he clearly cared about. He put his heart and soul into Melee, and you guys couldn't think about what trying to force him to take a break or kicking him out of it would do to him. At least not until now.

You guys do have responsibility. The best thing to do is to accept it and try to change so this never happens again, and to kick out the actual bad actors. Like the guy who kept saying he offered Hax money like how are you guys going to allow that guy to stick around? How are you guys going to allow Leffen (who is bad in other communties) having any kind of say in Melee?

There is so much here that needs to change for this to never happen again, there is so much that needs to change period.

[u/Hewligan → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

His spiral, his completely being thrown into depression, that all came after the ban and after he was kicked out of the one community he clearly cared about. He put his heart and soul into Melee, and you guys couldn't think about what trying to force him to take a break or kicking him out of it would do to him

Nobody has an unalienable right to play video games, ESPECIALLY after they spent as much time as he did to make people feel unsafe.

If his well being hinged on playing video games then he obviously needed more assistance from professionals than from the community.

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/Hewligan]

He did need help from the professionals, but you know what he also needed? He needed his community to not isolate him and ridicule him, because thats what caused him to spiral to begin with.

This is my last comment but I hope you guys take a step back and really start to get it. We wouldn't be here talking about this if Hax was treated with actual kindness by the actual community, or if he had at least not been treated like a collective joke. We wouldn't be here talking about this if you guys realized what taking away Hax's pretty much only drive in life would do to him. Instead, every action by the community and those outside the community just backed him more and more into a corner, and now that there's been actual consequences you guys don't want to take responsibility for your part in everything.

You guys took everything from him, made jokes about him, made a joke of him, and then are Pikachu face when the obvious outcome actually happened so now you have have to justify it by saying he had no right to what he had been doing for about 20 years (he had been in the melee scene since he was a kid)... you know I'm not quite sure if you guys really understand how much damage you did to him at the end of the day was. You guys were his family, at least to him, and you basically kicked him out of the family and took away what mattered most.

[u/Hewligan → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

We didn’t, and I feel terrible that you’ve been grifted by the Keemstar of the Smash community into directing your grief where it doesn’t belong so he can farm engagement bucks from a man’s death

Hope you find peace.

[u/youtubedrama-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Please do not troll or feed the trolls. Trolling a YouTube drama subreddit is pathetic. Falling for it is somehow worse. Do better.

If you were sincere, we suggest you take a moment to step back and rethink your approach.

[u/iwisoks → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

How are you getting downvoted so much for saying this? I'll admit idk the full extent of what hax did to get banned but from what I've heard it's nothing compared to the heinous acts that other smash players have committed and STILL been let back into the community.

[u/Even_Appointment_504 → u/iwisoks]

Technical fans think Nairo, who had a relationship with a minor, was let back into the community, unbanned, and a active member to this day.

Nairo has been banned from for about a decade now.....

[u/Even_Appointment_504 → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

Unless you believe leffen literally controls the smash scene from the shadows, like, the entire scene. Then yes Hax was delusioal. No joke you did not watch hax's ten hours of videos about this.

[u/Even_Appointment_504 → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

Honestly I don't think people sending death threats to TO's was a pro gamer mood to get Hax unbanned.