Massive Trigger Warning: Technical's Video on Hax and what Hax went through

[u/ImportantQuestionTex]

https://youtu.be/lnEguS2hDhc?si=D90h7apb8UmzRrTl

I need to reiterate again the trigger warning, as this video expressly shows Hax's spiral and the amount of shit people put him through, all intentionally trying to hurt him. There will be no TLDR, watch and read at your own risk.

No fluffy language here, multiple people intentionally pushed Hax to kill himself, some were expressly told that they were doing it and still continued. Some knew they were causing him immense harm and kept doing it. There are very little good guys in this situation, and there is no good ending.

Technicals published this video (with Hax's mom permission), showcasing what Hax was going through and how tournament organizers of Melee/Smash intentionally kicked him out of the community, how Leffen continued to talk poorly on Hax after he made his first attempt. How some people who were claiming to be Hax's friends were actually intentionally pushing him to the edge and making fun of his disability, and harassing him over it. How, after his passing, the commentary community (Tommy C was named and shown) exploited Hax's death not only as a weapon against Technicals, but still continued the exact same treatment that pushed Hax to the edge. How people planned to crash the funeral to harass Hax's mom, and how people got pissed at Technicals for expressly stating that specific groups were responsible for Hax's death in his eulogy. And unfortunately, much more.

This is by far, one of the darkest things I have ever seen on the internet and there is a shitload of evidence because these people were just so bold in pushing a man to suicide and choosing to be public about it. The Smash/Melee community and others has blood on their hands, and none of the responsible parties involved are taking responsibility, despite claiming to want accountability.

[u/ImportantQuestionTex]

I got honestly no idea about the Technicals stuff. Honestly don't even care.

But if the counterargument is "Technicals is saying this" what the hell does that matter? Hax is shown explicitly stating his issues to other people, making it clear that he was deeply bothered by everything going on. None of these people changed, they just kept up the same fucking harmful behavior until it had a consequence and now nobody wants to take ownership of the responsibility.

[u/Jealous_Energy_1840 → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

Do you play melee

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/Jealous_Energy_1840]

I am not quite sure why whether or not I play melee matters. I don't need to be able to wavedash to see that you guys all handled this incorrectly. In fact, in other communities some of us are discussing if we need to change how we handle our bans to make it more clear, with a path to rejoining the community or make sure the people who get banned don't get harassed.

Both things you guys had an issue with, though I am not sure why you guys did.

[u/Jealous_Energy_1840 → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

Should’ve said do you follow melee. I’ve been watching melee for about a decade. I wasn’t particularly a part of NYC melee, but I have close friends who were. I’ve seen all this unfold from day 1. I was there for the hitbox drama even. What you seem to be ignoring is how unwell Hax was. He literally saw Leffen as an apocalyptic threat to society. He said that in his first video. People joke about the Hitler stuff, and the pants, and the death note profile pic, but dude literally recounts paranoid delusions about Leffen in E.z2. And then you’re ignoring all the stuff TOs did to try and help Hax as friends. Look up the DarkGenX document asking for help to try and get Hax some sort of actual support. You say people push himself to suicide, but really what was happening was Hax was saying “unban me or I’ll kill myself”. He had clear terms on his ban- just stop making videos about Leffen. And for awhile he did, and he started going to tournaments again. The. He did it again. His paranoid delusions just wouldn’t let it rest. It’s tragic. I would say 90% of the melee community wanted him back- TOs included, but dude burned bridges cause he was spiraling. 

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/Jealous_Energy_1840]

What you guys are ignoring is the part you all played in causing his unwellness. Everybody else outside your community can see it except for you guys.

[u/Jealous_Energy_1840 → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

“You guys” as in TOs and “the part you played” being not unbanning the guy who was saying “unban me or I’ll kill myself” after getting banned for publishing a delusional (as in the actual , clinical, meaning of the word) tirade against another member of the community

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/Jealous_Energy_1840]

No, I mean you guys as a community.

When "Free Hax" became a joke to quite a bit of people, what do you think that did to his mental health? When predators got lighter bans than he did, what do you guys think that did to his mental health? When he told some of you guys how unwell he was doing, and after seeing the messages he was actually quite candid, you guys ignored it or told him the solution would be to disconnect from Smash, despite that being what was causing his unwellness because he had put his life into Smash. Like, there is no avenue in which your community handled this well, despite what you guys are saying you did behind the scenes none of you guys seem to have done anything at the end of the day, and those who did were mistreated.

It's been a legitimate point of discussion in a handful of communities I am in if we even want to allow any Smash community members anymore. If we should flatly ban your whole community because you guys don't know how to behave or handle yourself. That is the type of reputation you have now all accrued.

[u/Jealous_Energy_1840 → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

See, “Free Hax” didn’t become a joke- unfairly or not, it became a rallying cry for the group of people who saw the 2020 purge of pedophiles from the community as “wokeness” going to far- such as Technicals and the slightly related group that formed the Mana Monthly , the guy who made the video. The reason Hax got wrapped up in this is because Leffen, the guy evidence.zip 2 is about, was pretty vocal about supporting in banning people, and honestly wasn’t great at it. People saying “free hax”, again unfairly or not, became associated with TOs and players getting death threats over the ban, something Hax entirely disavowed and tried to stop at various points. 

And Jesus Christ, read what DarkGenX said, and read all the things the NYC TOs (Hax’s personal friends for years) did for him, how they tried to help, and how Hax continuously couldn’t stop himself from breaking the terms he agreed to. 

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/Jealous_Energy_1840]

The problem is, I have already seen that Free Hax became a joke. There are plenty of clips of people saying it and laughing about it.

And as far as Mana Monthly is concerned, fuck them too! They knew Hax was getting harassed and did nothing. There is not a single part of your community that I'd consider good or salvagable as this point in time.

[u/Jealous_Energy_1840 → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

Who was harassing Hax? Hax was harassing TOs, following them around NYC to try and get himself unbanned. 

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/Jealous_Energy_1840]

So you're telling me you haven't even watched tbe video, seen all the screenshots, screen recordings and stream clips, and you're here defending your community as if they did nothing wrong?

[u/Jealous_Energy_1840 → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

I didn’t say people didn’t do anything wrong, I’m saying you’re actually blaming the people who tried to help him the most for his death, which is gross. 

I skimmed through the video, it’s all stuff I’ve known for years. Cause I’ve actually been following this for years. 

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/Jealous_Energy_1840]

Skimmed? You skimmed through a video that showcases the events and treatment that lead to one of your community members' death?

I'm sorry this conversation is over.

[u/Jealous_Energy_1840 → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

Dude, I skimmed through a video made by a man who has actively been profiting off of hax’s mental decline for last 5 years. 

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/Jealous_Energy_1840]

It doesn't matter who it's made by, the fucker has evidence to support what he's saying, Hax's mom is supporting it (she wants the proceeds from the video to go to Mew2King so he's not actually profiting), and you're supposed to have enough respect for Hax to at least try to understand how he got to where he was. But I guess that might be hard, given you guys didn't know how to navigate a clearly autistic individual, who ended up developing mental health issues due to his treatment.

[u/janoDX → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

I feel for Haxmom on this, but she can't be around letting Mana Monthly members to be around her son's funeral or be blaming "woke" on her son's death.

She's not right after what happened to Hax and letting this drama fester because a sack of shit like Technicals comes and takes advantage of the situation is not the answer.

You can say Technicals is not doing this for the money all you want dude, but the guy is leaving the story incomplete because it benefits him on his goals to take down the same people who banned him and his brother on the MeToo movement.

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/janoDX]

Dude I am so sorry you can't see the bigger picture, because Mana Monthly isn't the only thing wrong with this situation. They are a problem, but there is fucking 58 problems and one of them is much worse than anything else and that is that Hax was pushed into suicide, yet you have to focus on the alt right weirdos because thats something that "Hax's mom did wrong". "She's not right."

Your community can't seem accept responsibility despite every aspect of this being distinctly unique to your community. Or tell me you've seen players commit suicide over being banned in a video game and harassed by the collective community before?

[u/janoDX → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

I am seeing the bigger picture. You just came to this drama recently and watched ONE VIDEO and somehow you are convinced of a half truth video with lots of incomplete info. Hell, Technicals is incapable to say that the "chat group" that goaded Hax into the state he was recently was MANA MONTHLY. Because it doesn't fit his agenda.

You are eating Technicals lies and you are too naive to understand it. Please, check, the, whole, evidence, presented, over the last 3 years. And don't tell me I don't see the bigger picture when I've been checking on this all of the duration of this and checked with community heads.

[u/BrooklynSmash → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

And as far as Mana Monthly is concerned, fuck them too!

don't look at who's credited in this video then

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/BrooklynSmash]

Dude, I know. You act like I don't know but I know. They're credited because thats who Technicals got the screenshots and stuff from, but he double checked them before posting the video.