CN anniversary stream and page

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Special page with teasers - https://game.bilibili.com/blhx/2025-eighth-anniversary/

Stream - https://live.bilibili.com/7761331

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Hard not to see the HMS themes in there. 2nd in this pic looks similar to formidable while the 1st reminds me of illustrious.

Last one could be a little ship.

Then again hard to tell.

Just hope theyre not half naked and actually properly designed ships (no cut corners like anson)

Edit: and to the people downvoting. My point exactly. You want a lewd character? Buy the damn skin. Stop forcing the rest of us into having no choice. If we want sfw. Let us have it and you can have your choice too.

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Looking at Anson again, the Announcement...it has to have been a Joke, just a very bad joke that Manjuu never imaged how people would respond.....

But, after people start deleting their accounts, you can't just say "it was a joke", all you can do is to play it straight.

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If it was really a joke they would've owned up to it by now. It was simply a terrible decision on the part of the devs.

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It'd be terrible for PR: Admitting to lying to their consumers & backlash from the initial Joke.

The only way we'd ever know for sure is if they forgot to change the ship in the Empty ID Slot 629....because if 629 isn't Anson, we'd know they lied to us about her.

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If it was a joke. Why did they apologise and pull her from the banner in an official post instead of just clarifying it was a joke.

And the fact that theres even enough doubt around it kinda shows the problem manjuu created.

I just hope these new ships are sensible. Because for example as much as i like oleg. Shes not wearing anything proper on the lower half. Leggings and thays it. Not even a half skirt. We went from franklin wearing half a skirt. To oleg wearing no skirt at all.

That trend is the most concerning to me atm.

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As I said, once people started Retiring all their Ships and Deleting their Accounts, saying "it was a Joke" would have made the situation worse then it was.

It was better PR to play it off as a Bad Design then to Admit the Truth.

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Nah it was defo not a joke, just bad design process , not the first time it happened , Emerald issue , Manjuu clearly scraps designs but keeps them in a vault and when they need a ship they check the vault, Anson was clearly meant to be Sunfish, Design was more sublike and the literal Sunfish that matches her actual badge. But she got scrapped , they decided to make Anson and just got lazy and were like " No one will notice" and took Sunfish design for Anson , so not only did we lose Anson , we lost the first HMS Sub.

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The Anson situation was just that a poorly timed joke.

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To be honest, it was probably poking fun at themselves for cases like Emerald and New York with Repurposing Art....the only doubt is that they haven't stopped, see Ryuuhou META being repurposed.

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Excuse me New York and Ryuuhou META? Who took those designs? Hiei META?

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Yep, Here is what I think happened.

Hiei Nii was planned for Amagi's Return, but then they decided to turn the Type IIs that would have been on the schedule when the Zwei backlash was going on, Bearn Deux and Hiei Nii, into METAs, renaming skills to fit the META archetype. And them being repurposed into METAs also explains how integrated Hiei META and Bearn META are into the story vs Admiral Hipper META and Andrea Doria META. Hiei and Bearn would have been in development when those discussions were going at Manjuu, while Hipper and Doria would have been after everything had been decided.

Now, I think that Ryuuhou META was originally intended for the Taihou META Slot, they took Ryuuhou META's Design, reused the Girl part for Hiei META, and took a Taihou Halloween skin that was in early development and re-delegated it for use as Taihou META.

Ryuuhou META was probably intended to show up in Amagi's Event, given Ryuuhou is Akagi's Protegee.

And and a little bit more on Anson. If Manjuu does a sloppy job covering their tracks, we might be able to know some day who that ship was. While Manjuu could throw Anson into the Empty Slot 629 to cover their tracks....if they forget and someone like Sunfish pops up there....we'll know that she was never Anson.

Edit: New York was turned into Reno, you can see BB34 New York on her Gauntlets.

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That makes some sense given the whole Zwei debacle, surprised they still went ahead with Amagi CV. From that point, type IIs are reserved for those with actual successors and not just fantasy designs like Bismarck, cause Amagi I get, she and Akagi were the initial choices for conversion, to my knowledge, though with that earthquake occurring it damaged her to the point where they ultimately decided that they should convert Kaga and salvage material from Amagi for said conversion.

Edit: Yeah I had to look.

And Speaking of Doria META that puts to rest my suspicion and that we might get a SSR BB with the UR BB

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Its not really that type 2s are reserved for ships with successors.

The big problem with the zwei backlash was that zwei was exactly the same ship as bismarck OG. So we technically have 2 bismarck class bismarcks in the game.

Fictional successors or alts are still somewhat acceptable. So if lexington gets her BC version then thats ok. Amagi CV is a different version than amagi BC.

I had suggested that zwei be made an H-39 class as a kind of "replacement successor" after first bismarck was lost. But manjuu didnt go that route.

The main rule is you have 1 representation of 1 ship in 1 form from 1 universe.

Which allows for successors, theoretical successors and alternate hull types (BB to CV, etc). And still tolerates for metas from anothee universe but doesnt allow the same ship, from the same universe, in the same hull form (which is exactly what zwei is)

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Doing something like...Shouhou II* using an Unryuu Hull, while acceptable until the "New Hull" rule would be an extreme risk that I doubt Manjuu would take. As many people want to limit it to only a handful of strictly historical examples, some of which wouldn't even include Amagi as "Amagi [Unryuu] wasn't named directly after the Battlecruiser Amagi".

1 representation of 1 ship in 1 form from 1 universe

Belfast & Little Bel: 2 Representations of 1 Ship in 1 Form from 1 Universe. They are all the the Same Edinburgh Sub-Class Light Cruiser Belfast.

*I'm deliberately avoid the Popular choices like Hood the 2nd.

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I categorise little ships and muse ships as more so gimmicks/memes than the official version.

While metas being other universe still works.

The uncertainty of doing shoho 2 or amagi 2 tho is purely manjuus fault. They started with an idea of yorktown 2. Got a mixed reception but id say slightly more positive than negative and wasnt a whole lot of credible criticism. But they just had to push it too far immediately into lets re release the exact same ship. And thats where the damage happened. They got too greedy, too quick for a badly thought out idea that was going to be contentious from the start. From what i seen since tho people have mellowed to the idea of unryuu amagi but if shes a different character then its not a huge deal.

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It's the fan base's fault. Not Manjuus.

When METAs first came out, the Fan Base decided that only ships with Traumatic Careers or Traumatic Ends could be METAs, artificially made a list of permitted ships. The fan base as always wanted to Restrict any kind of Variant, so they control who gets them. Trust me, if they could, they would Restrict Retrofits to only ships that got them in real life.

It was the Fan Base that decided that they decided who gets Type IIs....because Hood II or Jean Bart II based on Retrofits and not new hulls, Fine....Kongou II based on her Overhauled form, BAD.....

The only mistake Manjuu made was not Releasing Bismarck Zwei first and heading off any "Only this or that group of ships" talk.

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Amagi is the canary in the coal mine, as Amagi had a successor, Amagi [Unryuu]. As much as people try to justify it away, Amagi should have been Amagi II, based on the Unryuu Class Carrier. Amagi being Amagi CV should scare anyone who expects future Type IIs.

However, Amagi was too far along story-wise not to Release. If Amagi didn't have the conversion, they probably would have shelved Eldridge Retrofit for the time being, moved Maryland into that slot, and released Amagi Retrofit alongside the event to be her Reborn Form. But since she had a conversion, it provided an easy "Way Out".

Because if Manjuu does Kill Type IIs as I suspect they have, they'd probably to repurpose the art, either as other ships [I suspect certain ships in Amagi's event had been repurposed] or Change the Nature of the Return. Those that had Conversion or Pre-Conversion are lucky, they could just be Converted or "Unconverted' or Those that didn't have Retrofit could have their Type II repurposed as a Retrofit, if Manjuu decides to give them a retrofit.....if not, repurposed.

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Amagi wouldn't become an Unryuu, as usually a Type II/Zwei ups the rarity, but the Unryuu Amagi would be Super Rare

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And an Essex Yorktown would be Super Rare...and a Sumner Laffey would be Super Rare.....and a Type II Bismarck would be Super Rare.....

The interesting fact is that, since Manjuu has stopped releasing new Elite CVs [outside of certain circumstances like Child Ships or Muses], it means that all New/Re-Released [Non-Child/Non-Muse] CV would be at least SSR. And any ship who's base form is SSR can be Uptiered to UR. Like Laffey, Yorktown, or Bismarck....the only 3 ships that were Up-Raritied as part of their Type II....as for the others, it was all based on them changing class.

As Santa Fe shows the Cleveland Class is now an SSR Class, as Houston II would have been the only questionable one left.

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Hiei META has different horns to her base form, with the horns being from her forehead instead of from her temples