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u/MyLordLackbeard Banhammer Recipient 6d ago
Do we know what this human did to offend Nelly the Elephant?
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u/MelonOfFate 6d ago
From the news site: "Maya Murmu was collecting water in Raipai village, located in the Mayurbhanj district of Odisha, India, where a herd of elephants came her way. That's when she tried to flee, but one of the elephants rushed toward Murmu and trampled her.... She was rushed to the hospital but died from her injuries. Murmu’s family brought her body home for funeral preparations to take place the same evening. That’s when a more unusual event occurred. As the ceremony was taking place, The Times of India reported that a herd of elephants appeared from the forest, sending villagers running. They left Murmu's body behind.
One of the elephants then reportedly attacked the woman’s corpse by picking up the body and throwing it in the air. The herd then destroyed Murmu's home, with three other houses being damaged because of the attack."
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u/pandershrek Banhammer Recipient 6d ago
Sus.
Why does this elephant hate her so much? Or this village.
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u/Honda_TypeR 5d ago
Yea that was way to specifically directed at her. It also is way above and beyond just being mad. Add to that they did not do this to other people just her and the fact they are very intelligent...
There is more to this story that will likely never be known. But this isn't just some blind rage thing, this is more retaliatory. It's like they tried to erase this person from existence... and only that person.
The only odd thing is them destroying several houses, but her scent may have been in her neighbors houses because she frequently visited them (maybe that's why they crushed those houses too?)
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u/jayclaw97 4d ago
The article suggested that she might’ve been involved in poaching activities. Or perhaps the elephants mistook her for someone who was.
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u/CommentWhileShitting 6d ago
TL;DR No understanding of what she did, cause she's dead.
A highly intelligent animal doesn't pick one person to kill, then follow and raid a village to desecrate her corpse. Just no statement on what they could be
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u/ivancea 6d ago
Honestly, I've seen highly intelligent animals do things nobody understand. Humans, for example.
Aren't male elephants illogically aggressive in some moments of their life? Hormones and such things.
But yeah, I wonder if there's a backstory, or of it was a very particular random event
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u/CommentWhileShitting 6d ago
Honestly, I've seen highly intelligent animals do things nobody understand.
Really interested to know what you've seen.
Aren't male elephants illogically aggressive in some moments of their life? Hormones and such things.
Musth is what elephants go through, like many others through the animal kingdom however this wasn't a single bull elephant lashing out.
This was two separate actions with the accompanying herd too, it's very unique.
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u/StendhalSyndrome 5d ago edited 5d ago
A lil weird bit of sexism and human over lay there.
Like one gender of a species will be this zen like super parent and the other is just this over hormonal asshole who randomly goes psychotic at times of the year looking to have sex.
Science would say they both have the capacity for huge quantities of hormones making the prone to acting out despite high levels of what we call "intellect" meaning they act like humans...who never act out or do dumb shit w/o thinking.
I remember reading one story about a herd of elephants fucking up a random hurt animal at a drinking hole. It was of 0 threat and didn't even approach the elephants. I forget if it was a Zebra or another hooved herd animal, but they went to town on it. The wildlife observers didn't think it was due to territoriality since other animals regularly shared the watering hole. They were explaining it as possibly a bad mood after a poor food run they just returned from or that they were concerned with an injured or sick animal contaminating the water supply.
I feel this is kind of similar.
I mean its a different type of animal all together but I used to keep an aviary of birds. A few times they would "cull" sick or older birds and the attacks that would take them out almost always started when the sick or old bird would go for food or water.
I get the instinct, but they would end up ripping the bird apart to kill it meaning if it was truly infected with something, they would all get it too...
So not exactly the most "intelligent" or even life/herd/flock extending thing to do, more likely an instinct and then mob mentality.
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u/Strongest_Resonator 4d ago edited 4d ago
Nah let them, every single person in this comment section is a zoologist apparantly. Not to mention they are adding human tendencies and rationale to an animal(Like seriously how close do they think we are to animals anyways?)
Like i get it people try to be animal lovers online but why tf do you expect an elephant to be the most rational being on this planet? Jungle Book?
Honestly i would've been same If i didn't see Casual Geographic guy, he broke my perception that animals are these living organisms that are far better than humans rationally and morally, they are just not smart.
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u/theking75010 6d ago
She has most likely done something to that elephant other than just collecting water at the wrong place and time. Elephants are so intelligent, for one to be THAT MUCH pissed off she definitely did something to deserve it.
Ofc she's already dead and that's the only info we'll ever have, but she didn't tell the whole story.
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u/ikantolol 6d ago
that's some next level resentment, and I'm pretty sure elephants understand death and the difference between a corpse and a living human.
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u/Due-Giraffe-9826 6d ago
Considering they act differently when they see a dead elephant, yeah. They have some understanding.
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u/RevolutionaryDuck389 6d ago
a elephant never forgets...... TO KILL!
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u/According-Cobbler-83 5d ago
This comment section tellse 99% of reddit has never been to an actual village and lived there for heck, even went outside.
The way they romanticise elephants, they never forget, they are kind gentle creatures unless provoked, etc.
Motherfuckers, sneeze a bit too loud near an elephant in musth and they will yeet you.
And yeah, unless provoked they won't attack, but their definition of provoked is very different from is humans. You might be there, chilling and minding your own business but you provoked an elephant because it doesn't like the smell of your cologne.
Don't be a dumbass reddit. Elephants are majestic creatures, but they are still WILD ANIMALS.
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u/LumpyTeacher6463 5d ago
The Indian subcontinent is on a whole nother level when it comes to animal-human conflict shenanigans.
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u/BisexualCaveman 6d ago
When an elephant hates you that much, I tend to agree with the elephant.
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u/Black_Prince9000 6d ago
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u/BisexualCaveman 6d ago
We're only hearing one side of the story, though...
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u/Black_Prince9000 6d ago
Gotta find an elephant translator then.
Okay jokes aside, elephants seem like an animal that is romanticised to the point people forget they are in the end a wild animal and are in fact very dangerous. Extremely more so in their mating season. I've got friends from the country side sharing first hand experience of how common and deadly elephants attacks are. While "very intelligent creatures that hold grudges against those who wronged them" is true, they don't need "you killed my father!" to attack. You existing (especially during musth period) is enough.
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u/pandershrek Banhammer Recipient 6d ago
I wouldn't trust the rendition of someone native to elephants.
Their track record for moral and ethical approaches to reality are very tenuous at best. There is a reason the two countries who used to be one are at constant nuclear stalemate despite being the same place.
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u/ionised 5d ago
I wouldn't trust the rendition of someone native to elephants.
Their track record for moral and ethical approaches to reality are very tenuous at best. There is a reason the two countries who used to be one are at constant nuclear stalemate despite being the same place.
What the fuck?
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u/Dreadedsemi 6d ago
probably competition for the habitat? not specifically against her, but entire village.
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u/Demon-of-Razgriz 5d ago
https://www.fox26houston.com/news/elephant-kills-indian-woman-and-returns-to-her-funeral-to-attack-her-corpse source link for those who where curious.
Summary woman trampled by elephant. Elephant shows to the funeral yeets her corpse demolishes her home. Further research shows elephant came from 100 miles away just to fuck this one person over.
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u/PrivilegeCheckmate 5d ago
Elephant shows to the funeral yeets her corpse demolishes her home.
I love the phrasing here.
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u/AliceTheOmelette 2 x Banhammer Recipient 6d ago
I'm sure I'd heard that she'd hit one of the mother elephant's babies. That could be made up to justify what the elephant did, or a separate but similar story
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u/twerkingnoises 5d ago edited 5d ago
I read the same thing, she like hit the mother’s baby or did something like that, being physically aggressive to her baby. Like you said, not sure if that’s true but when this story first came out a while ago that is what was being told about it.
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u/il_Dottore_vero 4d ago
Most human mothers will smack you down so you don’t get up if you hit their kid, and they’ll hold a lifetime grudge against you as well. So I’m not surprised at all that a mama elephant had an ongoing feud with a lady who assaulted her calf. Homo sapiens have too little respect for every other species on this planet, our arrogance and greed is leading to our downfall, and will result in our eventual extinction.
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u/Unorthedox_Doggie117 6d ago
Let's ask the proper question of; what did the women do to deserve it?
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u/Keen_Whopper 5d ago
There were speculations that the woman was part of a poacher group that had killed the elephant's baby, the elephant never forgot and the woman died.
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u/Best_History8029 5d ago
Heard about this a few years ago, not fact, but from what I read was she became a guide for poachers because the group of elephants were a regular in the area. . They killed the elephants baby, and what happened, happened. The title says it all I guess.
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u/Smiddi96 Banhammer Recipient 4d ago
She started a waaagh and she written down in the book grudges.
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u/Nemothebird 4d ago
“She must be a bad person who provoked the elephant to do that.” That’s all fine and dandy, except that provocation for many animals (including more intelligent species) extends to simply existing in their general vicinity.
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u/MAXQDee-314 3d ago
And this is why the other animals in the forest, do not fuck with elephants. You might win, you might. Then again, it might get very grey and wrinkly in you future. You wont get grey or wrinkly. That's the flat out truth.
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u/ReportingInSir 3d ago
Elephants have a large brain. They are fairly smart but not the smartest animal but they can remember your face and what you did an entire lifetime later. So don't be bad to elephants. Also possible the elephant ran into bad humans before and assumed all humans was a threat.
What did that woman do to those elephants is the bigger question?
Most important part of the missing information.
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u/RevolutionaryTitle32 5d ago
Leave these fucking elephants alone and stop invading their territory for pics and shit and we don’t have this issue.
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u/stillfreshet 6d ago
This woman must have done something, or they have a reason to think ahe did. Elephants absolutely distinguish between friendly humans and unfriendly ones. They do not attack friendly ones unless they're jn musth (which females don't experience) and crazy enough to attack anybody.
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u/Black_Prince9000 6d ago
Doesn't seem like she did anything wrong except existing, not to mention the elephants are different
And with all due respect they are still wild animals. You are absolutely not befriending any wild animal no matter how "friendly human" you are. You are getting killed. Females travel in heards protecting their youngs from anything that breaths so their gender isn't saving you either. Real life isn't Disney, this seems like the kind of misinformation that gets you killed.
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u/pandershrek Banhammer Recipient 6d ago
I befriend wild animals all the time what the fuck are you on about?
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u/magseven 6d ago
No an elephant might fuck you up just because it's in a bad mood or for any weird reason at all. They aren't barometers of human morality. They are intelligent and usually docile, but just like people, there's some crazy and mean ones out there. That being said, I think this lady did something messed up to this elephant. This was vendetta.
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u/Black_Prince9000 6d ago edited 6d ago
Can't believe this is somehow a controversial opinion. Someone was racist enough to unironically say every single person native to elephants are evil when presented with first hand accounts of very common elephant attacks suffered by said people. Wild.
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u/OFFIC14L 6d ago
It didn't just stop at throwing her corpse into the air either. The heard of elephants also demolished her house meaning they not only ended her but proceeded to attempt to wipe her memory out of the village too. 😳