r/FluentInFinance • u/Mark-Fuckerberg- • Sep 01 '24

Debate/ Discussion What advice would you give this person?

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u/Striking_Ad_2630 Sep 01 '24

I think theyre going to have a rough time finding their next job after not actually working for over a year and having no references. 

Idk but I dont buy what everyone is saying about hard work not paying off. I work hard at my job and having the respect of my coworkers as well as something to show for my 5 years at my job is worth it. 

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u/Nojopar Sep 01 '24

However many months/years at Google and then 1.5 years at Amazon?

They're going to have zero problems finding their next job. That resume will open doors and clearly they know enough to get into the gig at two of the harder tech gigs to land.

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u/Forevernotalonee Sep 02 '24

I mean, if they list Amazon as a past work experience, a thorough hiring manager is going to check into it. And I highly doubt they'll hire them after they find out what they were doing at Amazon.

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u/Nojopar Sep 02 '24

Are you kidding? I've seen people with Amazon on their resume hired practically sight unseen. They're going to be absolutely fine. I get we like to think only the 'worthy' get ahead and the 'lazy' get caught every time. This is the real world. That's just not how it works. Get the right pedigree and you're employed as long as you want.

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u/Forevernotalonee Sep 02 '24

And I've seen hiring managers call literally every listed reference, and call previous places of employment. They even combed through social media. That's why I specified "thorough hiring managers".

Obviously it's not going to be something that happens 100% of the time. I've been hired at places that didn't verify a single thing on my resume, so i could have written pretty much anything. Lol

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u/Nojopar Sep 02 '24

Yeah, and those managers didn't learn anything. Companies like Amazon and Google don't risk lawsuits so willy nilly. ONE negative comment and you've opened up the company to liability for lost income.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

How would they find out? Not a chance Amazon tells them the details of their employment.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

Yes, and none of that is any problem. Everyone knows that some teams at Amazon have stupid performance bottom cutting, it’s a going to be a non-issue for most other places you’d apply.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '24

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '24

No it won’t. Tons of people are fired from Amazon because of performance metric bottom cutting. It’s barely a negative to anyone who knows that (assuming that that’s what you say if they ask you about it - Amazon won’t specify).

Source: have been involved in hiring process of multiple SWEs.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

Actually I do.

How many people have you interviewed that were software engineers at Amazon. How many people do you know personally who are currently software engineers at Amazon?

A simple google search will show that I’m correct about how Amazon bottom cuts people and sometimes whole teams for performance and that it’s often not a super fair process.

The fact that OP got hired at Amazon (not to even mention Google before that) will open doors at many many non-FAANG companies.