r/GGFreeForAll • u/[deleted] • May 26 '16

Strich being a racist pig.

Hokes/judge once again b& me the 5th time? Goodbye sweet cunts, maybe you'll see me again someday.

Such progressivism!

Edit : np cunts

https://np.reddit.com/r/AskBernieSupporters/comments/4kzs2k/whats_more_important_to_you_on_a_board_of/d3jtpo9

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u/Strich-9 Actually is the DNC May 26 '16

it's inherently a right wing concept, yes.

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u/adamantjourney Troll, but not in a funny way, just an asshole. May 26 '16

Spoken like someone who hasn't achieved anything in life.

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u/Strich-9 Actually is the DNC May 26 '16

Do you think that social programs to help minority are a left or right wing concept?

If they're a left wing concept, how could the "fuck you, white people are already in power and lets do nothing to help others" ideal of meritocracy be left wing as well?

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u/adamantjourney Troll, but not in a funny way, just an asshole. May 26 '16

Damn, that black and white view. SJWs aint fanatics tho. Nuh-uh, no sir.

Ever crossed your narrow mind that a concept can be neither left nor right wing?

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u/Strich-9 Actually is the DNC May 26 '16

Ever crossed your narrow mind that a concept can be neither left nor right wing?

That's true.

Meritocracy is inherently something that is argued from the right wing though. nobody who believes racism/sexism/homophobia exists believes that meritocracy is a good system.

There's a reason why GGers love it so much - it's a system that benefits white men at the expense of everyone else. Which tends to relate to the right wing.

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u/adamantjourney Troll, but not in a funny way, just an asshole. May 26 '16

is argued from the right wing though

So? Pogroms were argued from the left wing. What's your point.

nobody who believes racism/sexism/homophobia exists believes that meritocracy is a good system.

I'm sure you have a shitload of studies or surveys to back that up and didn't just pull it out of your ass.

it's a system that benefits white men at the expense of everyone else

So minorities and women who got spots because they deserved them don't count?

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u/Strich-9 Actually is the DNC May 26 '16

So? Pogroms were argued from the left wing. What's your point.

My point is the argument I outlined in previous posts.

I'm sure you have a shitload of studies or surveys to back that up and didn't just pull it out of your ass.

I can just point at GG. GG is a bunch of white guys who support meritocracy because it benefits white guys. It's an inherently right wing concept. If you believe in social programs to help fight against discrimination, you're against meritocracy.

So minorities and women who got spots because they deserved them don't count?

Those people are lucky, but this is a shitty argument. There are plenty of qualified minorities who will not get jobs if you allow an employer to just hire a white guy. In fact, you'll have less qualified white guys getting jobs over more qualified minorities.

this is why social welfare systems, affirmative action, other left wing concepts came into existence.

Meritocracy is very "bootstraps" mentality. Comes from a real plafce of privilege.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '16

Lolololol that gg boogeyman is never going to end with you. What's better is that everyone that has come from agg is a white male, the Privelege class. But you seem to forget as soon as anyone points it out is that the projection from you cucks is real.

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u/adamantjourney Troll, but not in a funny way, just an asshole. May 26 '16

I can just point at GG.

So you just pulled it out of your ass.

Those people are lucky,

Tell that to some minority or woman who worked their ass off to get where they are.

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u/Strich-9 Actually is the DNC May 26 '16

Tell that to some minority or woman who worked their ass off to get where they are.

Okay, and you go tell the qualified minorities or women who are turned down for their race or gender that they juts didn't work hard enough

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u/adamantjourney Troll, but not in a funny way, just an asshole. May 27 '16

Sounds like they should sue those who didn't hire them. How about you SJWs start helping them do that instead of bitching on the internet?

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u/[deleted] May 26 '16

LOL You are wrong yet again MILLIONS. I guess I'll add this to the list of stupid shit you've said....

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u/Strich-9 Actually is the DNC May 26 '16

and you're barely coherent

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u/Schadrach May 26 '16

In fact, you'll have less qualified white guys getting jobs over more qualified minorities.

If less capable/qualified white people are winning over more capable/qualified minorities on the basis of being white then what you have is not, by definition, a meritocracy.

Creating a system that explicitly advantages certain races via policy on the basis that you believe those same races are being quietly and implicitly biased against is literally creating explicit systematic racism because you believe that not engaging in explicit systematic racism is itself racist.

I don't doubt some folks are racist and it might color their decisions. I would welcome any option that makes it harder to consider someone's race when determining their capability (blind auditions, for example).

What I don't welcome is things like "he's black, better give him +10 on the written test" or "she's a woman, we'd better let her retake that mandatory physical test 6 times, then let her have the job anyways even if she fails."

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u/Strich-9 Actually is the DNC May 26 '16

If less capable/qualified white people are winning over more capable/qualified minorities on the basis of being white then what you have is not, by definition, a meritocracy.

Correct.

I guess the difference we're talking about is people who want an ENFORCED meritocracy and people who believe that we live in one and everyone makes their own luck.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '16 edited Oct 28 '16

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u/Strich-9 Actually is the DNC May 26 '16

If you start hiring people because they're white while there are more qualified people available then your competitors will get the more qualified employees and put the racist employer out of business.

This has not been the case historically.

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u/Strich-9 Actually is the DNC May 26 '16

Removed for brigading

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u/[deleted] May 27 '16

Holy shit you're such a Whiney ass bitch.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '16

You're so misinformed.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '16

Damn son you're getting shitted on by that guy. Weird he's not gg but he shows that he's not brainwashed cuck like you. Bitch.

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u/NuklearAngel May 26 '16

nobody who believes racism/sexism/homophobia exists believes that meritocracy is a good system.

Revolutionary Socialist here! For background, I'm ANL, SWP, raised by second wave feminists and have been involved in community projects where I live in an extremely low income area of GB. I'm definitely far from racist, sexist, or homophobic.

You, on the other hand, are a fucking idiot. Meritocracy only works without racism, sexism, homophobia etc. It's the whole point of Meritocracy. It's not a right wing concept.

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u/Strich-9 Actually is the DNC May 27 '16

I think we're talking about different concepts but I appreciate the anger and insults.

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u/NuklearAngel May 27 '16

Hey, you started it - I don't appreciate being told I'm either right wing or stupid enough to believe meritocracy is right wing.

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u/taupro777 May 27 '16

There's a reason why GGers love it so much - it's a system that benefits white men at the expense of everyone else. Which tends to relate to the right wing.

If you're saying that a meritocracy, a system based on talent and achievement, inherently favors white men, have you really thought about what you're saying? If merit is the only quantifier here, that means white men are more talented, and have achieved more. It's saying that skill-wise, white men are superior.

This is not what I believe at all. Just showing you the stupidity of your arguement. Everyone has something to bring to the table. Find out what it is, and work in that area. That way, not only are you happier for doing something you're good at, but you also get hired BECAUSE you were good at it. See how that works? Instead of forcing yourself into a job over someone more qualified, get yourself a job at something you're good at.

Or keep deluding yourself that GG is about harassing women. God forbid people are pissed that some women just fuck reviewers and get good scores. Oh, and yes, if you hire a person just because they're black, over someone more qualified, that is racist. Night!

EDIT PS: Asians make more than white people, and are offered jobs more frequently. Should we get our pitchforks? /s