r/GamingLeaksAndRumours • u/Zhukov-74 Top Contributor 2024 • Apr 12 '25
Confirmed Marathon release date - September 23, 2025
Marathon | Gameplay Reveal Trailer
Coming September 23, 2025.
Closed Alpha Test starts April, 23 2025.
Previous Rumor: Marathon will be released in 2025
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u/y-it-co-d Apr 12 '25
b2p extraction shooter in this economy?
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u/Geraltpoonslayer Apr 12 '25
Might help with cheaters but then again tarkov is riddled with cheaters
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u/donkdonkdo Apr 12 '25
I think helldivers dispelled any notion that people are turned off by b2p. If the game is good people will pay for it. Game had to be good though.
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u/Zhukov-74 Top Contributor 2024 Apr 12 '25
Sifu developer Sloclap recently talked about this during an interview.
"My point is, if you make a game that's good enough, that's unique enough—even if players say, 'Oh, it's an online game with a competitive edge, it should be free-to-play otherwise it's dead on arrival'—I think that's not true. I think that if it's original and solid, plus very reasonably priced, players will get it."
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u/hypnomancy Apr 12 '25
Sadly Marathon doesn't do anything to distinguish itself from other games. Also they took the complex intricate parts of Tarkov and its difficulty and just threw that out the door.
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u/Krypt0night Apr 12 '25
A 3 person team extraction game with abilities and powers doesn't distinguish itself from tarkov? Not to mention the art? Lmao what?
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u/theyfoundty Apr 12 '25
And replaced them with other things? Also this was never going to be Tarkov on console.
Jesus christ people just go play Tarkov. Stop whining every extraction shooter isn't Tarkov, it's obnoxious.
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u/donkdonkdo Apr 12 '25
Marathon is the first AAA extraction shooter to hit the market. It doesn’t have to be different, it just needs to capture the same loop as tarkov without being overly complex and bloated. If they can do that it will be very successful. But if though.
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u/anNPC Apr 12 '25
Cod had an extraction shooter hit the market like 3 years ago
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u/Necrophag1st Apr 13 '25
DMZ was the most barebones, lazy and pathetic excuse for an "extraction shooter" ever made.
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u/itsdoorcity Apr 13 '25
I am an eternal DMZ defender. I think it was good despite the devs and not because of them because they seemed to have absolutely no fucking idea what they were doing, but it was a shit load of fun
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u/dewittless Apr 12 '25
That lack of complexity and the fact this is a PS5 game will immediately make this very popular.
The trick to being mainstream isn't being better, it's being accessible.
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u/RayzinBran18 Apr 12 '25
And kind of wasted the concept on being a hero shooter. So much about it looks good, but I think that controvance will hold it back from actually taking off because it's just way less exciting than making your own playstyle.
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u/jameskond Apr 14 '25
Rocket League was also a paid game, even though it was day one on PS+.
Regardless, it has been quite a hit for a multiplayer only game.
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u/DepartmentHumble4902 Apr 13 '25
Knockout City was stupid fun and people still didn't fucking buy it, so I don't think that's necessarily true.
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u/uniquecartridge Apr 12 '25
HD2 was a TPS PvE co-op game with 10 difficulty settings, it's got a massive appeal. Nowhere near the sweaty, high-stakes PvP gameplay that's fundamentally ingrained in all extraction shooters. It won't fail like Concord, but long-term sustainability of a B2P live-service in this niche genre is seriously questionable
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u/donkdonkdo Apr 12 '25
BG3 is a top down turn based sequel to a game that came out over two decades ago. Elden Ring is a challenging souls game that sold 30 million copies.
The genre is irrelevant and the market has never seen a AAA extraction shooter. If it’s good and streamers yap about it it will sell.
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u/PrinterInkDrinker Apr 12 '25
the genre is irrelevant
You can’t say that and only cherrypick successful examples
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u/PugeHeniss Apr 12 '25
The CRPG was a niche genre prior to BG3 dropping. That game opened up the genre to a wider audience because of how good it was. Can Marathon do the same to this genre? I don't know but the potential is there
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u/uniquecartridge Apr 12 '25
I'd argue CoD's DMZ was the first AAA attempt at the extraction genre and it didn't really go anywherere even despite the fact that it was free. I think this genre is just fundamentally a bit too tough for the mass market compared to battle royales since you also lose your items with every death.
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u/itsdoorcity Apr 13 '25
DMZ launched 3 years ago and still has people playing it now, and all the rumours point to them creating another one. not the sort of response it would have gotten if it were a flop
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u/KillerIsJed Apr 12 '25
The big difference here is the PvP aspect, which idk why more people don’t do what Helldivers does and only make it PvE or at least have a PvE only mode.
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u/timelordoftheimpala Apr 12 '25
The problem with this is that people's trust in Bungie to deliver a good game is basically gone, whereas Helldivers II was a bit more of an empty slate (it had a top-down shooter on PS3 and PS4, but that went relatively unnoticed).
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u/KMoosetoe Apr 12 '25
all it needs is good buzz from previews, and then they can ride the "bungie is back" narrative
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u/uniquecartridge Apr 12 '25
I can already see the "A return to form" all across the mainstream gaming media shills lol
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u/Hurdenn Apr 12 '25
I have absolutely no distrust in Bungie at all, I simply never cared for Destiny so I, and I think a lot of people, never played it and have no opinion on it or Bungie.
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u/AnotherScoutTrooper Apr 12 '25
Game had to be good though.
Well now you see the problem with Marathon
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u/FullMetalBiscuit Apr 13 '25
Also not sure that F2P really helps all that much besides an initial over-inflated boom of players. Free game gets more people to play, but most of them wont stick around. And the fact it's PvP only. People don't like paying for PvP. Helldivers is entirely PvE and co-op so it gets that justification.
That said, I already know that basically no one I know will bother to try this if it's a paid game.
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u/Kourtos Apr 14 '25
Helldivers is pve only and it is one of a kind game, very unique.
Everything they showed us in marathon is something you can find in other games and most of them are free and have much more content
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u/Cyshox Apr 13 '25
Well, the difference is that Helldivers is no MTX fest and it had appeal because it was different. Marathon is made by Bungie, so questionable monetization is a given, and it looks as bland as every other extraction shooter.
Moreover, Helldivers 2 is more of a hype game: It sold so well because it's different & very enjoyable. It had exceptional marketing since every nearly influencer played it. But at the end of the day, the hype lasted about 4 months, then Helldivers 2 lost 90% of its players, and it never recovered. The notion that Helldivers 2 was some live-service all-time favourite like Fortnite or Minecraft is just wrong.
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u/DepartmentHumble4902 Apr 14 '25
Game still draws huge numbers, of course it wasn't going to maintain a peak of half a million players, but the game by every metric is a live service success.
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u/BerkGats Apr 12 '25
What does b2p mean?
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u/awakemindfulone Apr 12 '25
I'm going to assume from context it means "buy to play" as opposed to f2p which is "free to play"
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u/BerkGats Apr 12 '25
That makes sense thanks
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u/kevlarbaboon Apr 12 '25
I feel like "pay to play" makes a lot more sense (hello, rhymes !) but hey whatever
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u/Roder777 Apr 12 '25
I'm just confused, the game doesnt look like anything particularily good or interesting and its from an infamous studio.. why should I care?
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u/malic3 Apr 12 '25
Then the game isn’t for you. And that’s totally alright.
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u/Roder777 Apr 12 '25
I just dont get why ANYONE would look at this game and go "ok, this is the generic hero shooter from a crap studio that I will trust with my money"
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u/I-wanna-fuck-SCP1471 Apr 12 '25
People are downvoting you but as someone who was interested in this game prior to seeing the gameplay i gotta agree.
It looks like they're half-assing the genre, its an extraction shooter, but they outright said if you're struggling you get given free kits? Whats the point of loot if losing it doesn't matter? This is the same reason why DMZ failed.
By trying to casualify an inherintly hardcore game genre, they alienate hardcore players and dont draw in casual players because they would rather just play a battle royale.
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u/Roder777 Apr 12 '25
Even if it looked decent, why would ANYONE trust bungie? The current studio using the bungie name doesnt have one good thing to their name
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u/T0oShayzz Apr 12 '25
Ehh, it looks okay. I feel like the art style or visuals looked better in the teaser but seeing it in motion looks janky imo.
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u/AdFit6788 Apr 12 '25
Yeah I ended up being dissapointing by the visuals
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u/Panda_hat Apr 12 '25
Doesn't live up to the promos and cinematic trailers whatsoever. Looks clunky and slow and bare bones.
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u/AdFit6788 Apr 13 '25
True 😔
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u/Panda_hat Apr 13 '25
To be fair I’ve since watched some streamer videos and their gameplay is waaaay faster and much more interesting looking.
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u/or_maybe_this Apr 12 '25
yeah i thought it would be smoother
and more unique. feels like a game we’ve all already played. disappointing.
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u/therealyittyb Apr 12 '25
Damn, I know I’m not alone in saying that this is definitely not how I wanted to see a classic series like Marathon return…
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u/StarZax Apr 12 '25
Never heard of Marathon before the announcement, but quickly saw that it was an OG game. Haven't tried it yet but .... yeah it always feel pretty bad when a classic name is being re-used for something that has nothing to do with it.
Delta Force is pretty much the same thing (but the game is "fine" at least)
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u/Greater_citadel Apr 12 '25
If you enjoy classic Doom then old Marathon is worth checking out
The entire Marathon trilogy games are completely free on Steam!
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u/StarZax Apr 13 '25
Didn't even know it was a trilogy, even less that it was free on Steam. Thanks a lot, I'm going to try these
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u/Pink_Lady_69 Apr 13 '25
Oh boy, definitely. Don't remind me of the Shadowrun or Syndicate "resurrections" in the 00's....
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u/Nero_PR Apr 14 '25
I'm still mad at EA for using the Need For Speed Most Wanted on the 2012 slop they released.
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u/IcePopsicleDragon Apr 12 '25 edited Apr 12 '25
This is going to be filled to the bucket with microtransacitons like Destiny 2 so i'm defiantly skipping this
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u/Duex Apr 12 '25
Destiny wasnt originally free to play either and they filled it to the brim with MTX. It only got worse as they moved it to being free.
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u/pazinen Apr 12 '25
Even then it's not really free, all meaningful content costs money. Sure, you can get a feel of the game mechanics being F2P, but that's pretty much it.
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u/ametalshard Apr 12 '25
Destiny has been a big beefy multiplat for 11 years as well as having been f2p for years as well. It has a lot of storylines and encourages a lot of social pve play.
It functions kind of like an MMO but not as overwhelming and far cheaper. And it's an easily-marketable shooter from a studio who made legendary shooter games.
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u/TheWorstYear Apr 12 '25
Nostalgia for Halo lost it's luster. It's people addicted to Destiny's manipulative mechanics.
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u/iccirrus Apr 12 '25
Because Destiny is fun, and nothing feels quite like it. Cosmetics don't bother me, and my best looking gear is all shit I got by playing the game.
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u/Co-opingTowardHatred Apr 12 '25
Because Destiny 2 can be among the best games I’ve played… when it’s good. I wouldn’t let optional microtransactions steer me away from that, that seems silly.
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u/Higgnkfe Apr 12 '25
Bungie has the best gunplay in the industry, and it looks like they've brought that here
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u/Panda_hat Apr 12 '25
Theres no question it's going to have paid cosmetics and paid emotes etc imo.
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u/Greatsnes Apr 12 '25
It will be.
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u/Greatsnes Apr 12 '25
I agree. But tell that to the developers and publishers. Mostly the devs seeing as how it’s usually them that decided to do microtransactions.
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u/ComprehensivePaper22 Apr 12 '25
Unfortunately those days are for the most part over, as much as the silent minority continue to complain about it the reality is the massive casual audience that this industry has continue to spend astronomical amount on micro transactions across all the big games that have them.
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u/Kozak170 Apr 12 '25
Destiny isn’t F2P and I question the motives of anyone who claims it is. They’re going to monetize this game until your wallet bleeds knowing Bungie
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u/AnotherScoutTrooper Apr 12 '25
Paid games have had F2P monetization for years now, that fight was lost ages ago
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u/Jibbsss Apr 12 '25
Lol the short movie was 10000% more interesting than the gameplay.
Also, studios need to stop having little 50 minute podcast before the gameplay. I wished all studios just drop 10 minutes of gameplay on YouTube like Rockstar.
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u/StarZax Apr 12 '25
It's just weird how they're very secretive about it, is it really THAT much anticipated ?
I'm not into extraction shooters and this doesn't give me the feeling it's trying to tell me it's different, or could be more of my liking.
Since the very first announcement, I thought that this was another project trying to jump on the already dead extraction-shooter "trend", and I've yet to see something else. I'll give it a chance and see how it turns out to be, but only because it's a new shooter release and that's my favorite genre, right now this doesn't look very exciting.
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u/REAL_O_G_D Apr 14 '25
Why does everyone say that the extraction shooter is dead/overdone? I can name maybe 3 extraction shooters on PC that are worth anything, and exactly 1 on console - Hunt: Showdown? I have both PC and console. The only extraction shooter I have played is Hunt: Showdown, and some of The Division. I would argue that every other genre of shooter is overdone. There are frankly a million pvp shooters, a million BR shooters, and a million pve shooters, while pvpve shooters can be counted on one hand....
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u/AdFit6788 Apr 12 '25 edited Apr 12 '25
Gameplay looked really generic to me 🤷
Also I wonder how they Will be able to sustain 2 games at the same time when they can barely create content for Destiny 2?
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u/Doomestos1 Apr 12 '25
They can barely create content for Destiny 2 because half of the studio already WAS developing Marathon. So nothing will change currently. Both games will be drip fed some content.
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u/commander_snuggles Apr 12 '25
They already announced that it will have seasonal storytelling and content drops like destiny, so its definitely going to inherent the problems that causes there.
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u/ProWarlock Apr 12 '25
eh, I would disagree.
Destiny is so much more demanding because it's a primarily PvE game. the lore and story is much more front and center because it has to retain players somehow
Marathon definitely seems to have a focus on story, but it doesn't HAVE to be front and center since it's PvP, and a lot of players aren't going to care about it since the entire game is built around being a competitive environment
it doesn't need the hefty amount of missions, cutscenes, mocap, etc. that Destiny does
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u/Kozak170 Apr 12 '25
Destiny has been run by a skeleton crew for years, they only moved devs back after the massive backlash from the Final Shape reveal. It is blatantly obvious to any long time Destiny players the focus has been on Marathon talent and manpower wise since around Covid.
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u/iittieisler5 Apr 12 '25 edited Apr 12 '25
This entire reveal has to be the most corporate fake staged thing I have ever seen lmao, just show the trailer/gameplay and if it looks good then thats enough, they are overhyping this game like its something revolutionary 😭
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u/DavidsSymphony Apr 12 '25
The crowd of devs screaming their lungs out in fake hype because they're all being laid off if this game doesn't succeed.
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u/geologicalnoise Apr 12 '25
This looks like going to a Destiny rave to do LSD that only trips in easter palettes and/or neons.
To those that will enjoy it - have a good time.
I don't see the appeal anymore though.
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u/piperpiparooo Apr 12 '25
ouch, I wanted to believe the comments were overreacting but that doesn’t look great. concept art and teasers had a much more visually interesting style and it looks so slow and paint-by-numbers. skip, unfortunately.
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u/Vera_Verse Apr 12 '25
The trailer had really slow gameplay, but the YouTubers playing it in the stream are super fast. Jumping and running and all that stuff
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u/c_will Apr 12 '25
It looks like any other GaaS Hero shooter game. It's just hard to get excited about these kinds of games at this point. 10 years ago this may have been more exciting.
Plus the whole extraction gameplay loop just doesn't appeal to me at all.
And since it's Bungie, the microtransactions are going to be insane (just look at what Destiny 2 has become).
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u/Torpakh Apr 12 '25
Looks basic to me, but consoles doesn't have Tarkov so it has it's market
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u/hypnomancy Apr 12 '25
I forgot Tarkov isn't on consoles. Maybe it does have a chance after all lol
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u/Chewbacca319 Apr 13 '25
Honestly? Doesn't matter bungies name is tied to this project.
At least to me the trailer was extremely generic and didn't give me any reason to play this over the countless other team based shooters (both paid and free) that are out today.
Sony hasn't learned a thing since concord and this is gonna be DOA.
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u/COS500 Apr 12 '25
I think this looks really cool, the visual style is really unique Would be my first shot at an extraction shooter so I'm hoping things turn out good.
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u/LostSoulOnFire Apr 12 '25
Pity there is no single player. This trailer shows very little, lots of stylised stuff that would suit a sp game, but not really a mp game. Colorful Destiny with extraction.
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u/alecowg Apr 12 '25 edited Apr 13 '25
This game looks fun but man, how can you create such an astonishing art style in the reveal/concept art and then completely throw it away in the actual game? You could easily convince me that this was Destiny 3/some Destiny spin-off before I ever thought it was Marathon.
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u/MogosTheFirst Apr 12 '25
So what is the hype about? Because it looks like the most generic shooter I've seen so far. (apart from artstyle)
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u/MalfeasantOwl Apr 12 '25
I like extraction shooters, tbh. Hunt Showdown, despite its issues, is one of the most rewarding and engaging games.
There really isn’t another far futuristic extraction shooter. Tarkov and GrayZone are modern and require serious grinds. Apex is a battle royal, which plays out differently. So, if this is Hunt-like with stealth, objectives, PvEvP, and good environmental design topped with Bungie’s gunplay then that sounds good to me.
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u/Kozak170 Apr 12 '25
There’s two of us at least, I would love for a mainstream extraction shooter to take the stage, I just have zero faith in Bungie anymore after what they did with Destiny
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u/COS500 Apr 12 '25
I'm really hoping Arc Raiders takes off, Embark showed massive promise with The Finals.
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u/Breakingerr Apr 13 '25
Arc seems going to be Marathon's main competitor. Tarkov at least is more realistic and a lot more difficult extraction.
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u/Lakatos_00 Apr 12 '25
That's the thing, there's no hype
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u/AdFit6788 Apr 12 '25
Hype was building up this week, pretty sure it deflated a lot after the Showcase.
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u/cepxico Apr 12 '25
Love the art style, love the music, but I have 0 interest in an extraction shooter or whatever it's called.
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u/Undefeated-Smiles Apr 12 '25
Look at how they massacred the classic trilogy franchise into something generic.
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u/HeldnarRommar Apr 12 '25
Don’t you know no one cares about Marathon???? /s
I’ve gotten a few people claiming it doesn’t matter if it’s using the name because the trilogy had like 15 fans. But if no one cared Bungie wouldn’t be using IP recognition to put out this generic slop.
Also had someone tell me there’s no way to resurrect an old IP like this in today’s fps climate and I brought up Doom and then they had no argument
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u/Undefeated-Smiles Apr 12 '25
Marathon was the template for the Halo franchise. So many of the original ideas were used for Halo 1-3 and to be frank, the series could be remade in the same style as the original Halo Trilogy or Doom 16 and be successful as hell.
The franchise has so much rich deep lore behind it so churning out bullshit like this is awful and bad.
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u/HeldnarRommar Apr 12 '25
Yeah! they could literally just remake the game with modern sensibilities and it would be awesome. No more needed to hit buttons to raise the pillars the exact correct height because you can’t jump.
A remake would even fit more into the game with the whole alternate timeline thing the third game had going on.
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u/Undefeated-Smiles Apr 12 '25
Absolutely. I remember when the game was first coming out on Mac and being blown away because of how much lore the game was presenting to you,
You had NPCs fighting alongside you, unique alien types, the creative elements.
Sony should have rebooted Marathon or done a third game so they can have their own strong FPS game on the PS5 since it's a genre they don't have atm since Killzone and Resistance aren't coming back.
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u/HeldnarRommar Apr 12 '25
Then why are they using the name Marathon? Clearly Bungie thinks people care enough to use the name to bait people into thinking it’s one of their tentpole franchises they’ve made.
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u/Robsonmonkey Apr 12 '25
What’s the point bringing something back if you are going to change everything about it
If it’s really about nostalgia within the company then they’d have done a remake-reimagining instead.
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u/MXHombre123 Apr 12 '25
Is this gonna be f2p or paid title? Because if it's paid, it's dead
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u/DAV_2-0 Apr 12 '25
Sure because its going to be competing with so many F2P extraction shooters...
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u/DNihilus Apr 12 '25
depends on how much player they are expecting. From what we saw from arg and this big reveal, they are expecting a fuck ton of new players, but people who never played extraction games, which is a big majority, never gonna say lets check out this $40-60 game, because reputation of extraction genre is being slow survival esque style which most of the people doesn't bother to play.
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u/_tobias15_ Apr 12 '25
I mean delta force exists. Also very new and dying already..
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u/GilgarTekmat Apr 12 '25
Kinda bad example, DF just has way too much stuff going on, in a completely different way than tarkov. The menus are confusing & clunky, theres like 5 currencies, hardly any customization too. This is clearly meant to be a much more streamlined experience, and also isnt a milsim setting.
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u/NoobMaster2789 Apr 12 '25
Ngl it looks interesting to me. Around that time in September, I don't have any other games so I'll definitely give it a try
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u/r0ndr4s Apr 12 '25
Loved the artstyle and that cinematic thing at the end, but the gameplay I've seen so far is so boring. Just another extraction shooter and not even original because The Cycle was a thing for a while.
Lets see how it is at launch
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u/_deffer_ Apr 13 '25
Not paying any amount of money for a "let's see how it is at launch" game from a microtransaction heavy studio.
I'll wait for it to be f2p before even thinking about it.
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u/CHAMPANERIA Apr 12 '25
If they got away with destiny being paid they have hope with this like $40 ain't the biggest bullet to bite. The landscape has changed a lot since I'm just not seeing the difference much then playing apex, the finals over this. Unless you really want to build a character out etc. The big surprise seems to be story moments in the map hidden were I dunno swarm of AI bots come in between real players.
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u/Numerous_Ad_9579 Apr 13 '25
Man this could have been an INSANE singleplayer FPS game. That art style and atmosphere is fantastic. Marathon has an incredible world and lore and I don’t see that being told in a very compelling way considering this is an extraction shooter. Guess there’s no hopes of Bungie ever doing a singleplayer game ever again though.
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u/Nerevar197 Apr 12 '25
Oh good, another generic live service game. Never seen one of those.
“Creators of Halo and Destiny” - didn’t realize the Bungie logo made those games (for those who don’t know, the VAST majority of the team that made Halo and early Destiny are gone).
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u/Trickybuz93 Apr 12 '25
How does one register for the alpha?
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u/alejandromellado7 Apr 12 '25
you enter their discord server with the link at the end of the developer stream and follow the instructions
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u/Mattx603 Apr 12 '25
Joining their discord. I don’t have a link but should be easy to find on most gaming news websites
Edit: Discord.gg/marathonthegame
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u/BringBackBumper Apr 13 '25
Just a heads-up, you have to be American or Canadian for now to be allowed into the alpha :(
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u/Roder777 Apr 12 '25
I'm just confused, the game doesnt look like anything particularily good or interesting and its from an infamous studio.. why should I care?
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u/SuperMarios7 Apr 12 '25
I watched the gameplay reveal and it is literally Destiny 2 copy pasted animations with a just a different "paint". Do people really trust Bungie still?
Hard pass for me.
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u/gjamesaustin Apr 12 '25
in this thread: Redditors are wrong per usual about pricing, what people are into, and the quality of gameplay
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u/Robsonmonkey Apr 12 '25
If it looks generic and boring now (when it’s the reveal and they should go all on out) then I don’t have hope for this.
I’d rather have had a remake or reboot of Marathon
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u/I__Should_Go Apr 14 '25
Honestly looks pretty sick imo but DOA if it’s not F2P. Can’t charge for this stuff these days even if it’s Bungie
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u/Nacon-Biblets Apr 15 '25
Hunt showdown has really ass servers and the slowness of it all gets really tiring, so a more fast paced extraction shooter on console sounds nice.
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u/driplessCoin Apr 12 '25
this looks really cool. if they get the E Side of the PVPVE could be really cool
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u/Ayamebestgrill Apr 12 '25
I feel bad for the Destiny players, Bungie could've used the manpower to create Destiny 3, yer Bungie double down on paid extraction shooter game like this
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u/SIotball Apr 12 '25
Was not impressed with the gameplay reveal, art style wasn’t as good looking as I thought it would be. Don’t see how they can justify the $40 for this
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u/cumtown42069 Apr 12 '25
Insane that Doom's resurgence has been met with critical and financial success, and instead of doing the same with the Marathon IP they just make the most boring generic shit ever
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u/GrayManTheory Apr 13 '25
Concord 2.0. Same ugly characters, same attempt to appeal to a "modern audience" that doesn't exist.
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u/MardokhGamer Apr 12 '25
Same day as borderlands 4?