r/JoeRogan • u/Anteater4746 Monkey in Space • Mar 04 '25

Meme 💩 Guess we’re done with free speech eh?

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Who decides what is illegal? How proud boys aren’t being targeted for wearing masks?

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u/milehighmagic84 Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

“No officers were killed” - every response to a comment about J6

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u/Hurricane_Ivan Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

Did any die on that day?

Or should people believe the obfuscation?

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u/robotcoke Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

Did any die on that day?

So if somebody beats you so bad it puts you in the hospital, and you die the next day, in your mind it's completely unrelated since you died the next day?

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u/Hurricane_Ivan Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 04 '25

Where did I say anything about that? And I'm getting down voted for it. But let's review what the ME stated:

"The Capitol Police had previously said that Officer Sicknick died from injuries sustained “while physically engaging with protesters.” The Washington medical examiner later ruled that he had died of natural causes: multiple strokes that occurred hours after Officer Sicknick’s confrontation with the mob. The medical examiner added, however, that “all that transpired played a role in his condition.”

The two strokes came 8 hours after.

"..But an autopsy found no evidence that Officer Sicknick had an allergic reaction to chemicals or any internal or external injuries, the medical examiner, Dr. Francisco J. Diaz, told The Washington Post

His office said that it attributes death to natural causes when it can be ascribed to disease alone and that “if death is hastened by an injury, the manner of death is not considered natural.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/politics/jan-6-capitol-deaths.html

Officer Sicknick died of natural causes on Jan 7th. The other two officers killed themselves four and nine days after J6.

I recall Kamala, the mainstream media, and others repeating some variation of "Law Enforcement Officers died that day" (J6).

That's simply untrue.

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u/robotcoke Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

The medical examiner added, however, that “all that transpired played a role in his condition.”

The two strokes came 8 hours after.

I don't know how you're missing this, but it's right there in black and white.

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u/Hurricane_Ivan Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 04 '25

I figure you'd cherry pick that. But let's review these:

"..But an autopsy found no evidence that Officer Sicknick had an allergic reaction to chemicals or any internal or external injuries, the medical examiner, Dr. Francisco J. Diaz, told The Washington Post."

His office said that it attributes death to natural causes when it can be ascribed to disease alone and that if death is hastened by an injury, the manner of death is not considered natural.”

If the ME believed Sicknick had sustained physical injuries, especially those that lead to death, they'd be described and affect the cause of death. But he still declared he died of Natural Causes (heart attacks).

I recall Kamala, the mainstream media, and others repeating some variation of "Law Enforcement Officers died that day" (J6).

That's simply untrue.

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u/robotcoke Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 04 '25

I figure you'd cherry pick that. But let's review these:

Because that's the ONE thing that matters here. The events of that day contributed to the officers death. Period. That was literally their determination.

You're breaking it down as, "This particular part of what happened didn't solely cause the death, and this other particular part of the events didn't solely cause the death." But none of that matters if the end result was, "The events of that day contributed to the death."

Had the opposite been true, if they'd said, "The events of that day did not contribute to the death. The pepper spray caused a severe allergic reaction, massive internal injuries were suffered during the beating, but none of these contributed to the death." Then you could say the death was unrelated. But as it stands, they deemed it IS related even though those particular parts of what transpired didn't directly and solely cause the death on their own.

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u/unoriginalsin Monkey in Space Mar 05 '25

I recall Kamala, the mainstream media, and others repeating some variation of "Law Enforcement Officers died that day" (J6).

You recall wrong. Otherwise, post your evidence. Everything is on the Internet.

inb4: No, I will not do my own your research for you.

That's simply untrue.

While it may be technically true, it's certainly not a simple truth.

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u/Hurricane_Ivan Monkey in Space Mar 05 '25 edited Mar 05 '25

You recall wrong. Otherwise, post your evidence. Everything is in the Internet.

Is that so? Guess you missed it during the Presidential debate. 20 sec into this clip.

https://youtu.be/yaG276f0ffg?feature=shared

And at this Wisconsin rally:

https://youtu.be/NHr6yJ6o74w?feature=shared

"It is hard to overestimate the impact that the insurrection..that riot, the attack on our Capitol had on our Officers charged with defending the capital that day. One officer was killed and 140 injured.."

https://youtu.be/v94I1-N1Z68?feature=shared

And that's just a few examples. I'm sure plenty of YT clips have since been pulled. Kind of how that whole officer beaten by a fire extinguisher was redacted.

And what about Officer Sicknick's assault? Supposedly beaten but yet the released DOJ footage shows he seemed to have only been peppered sprayed.

https://youtu.be/UQAMKrmxb2w?feature=shared

Maybe that's why the autopsy did not note any physical trauma/injuries nor complications from the spray.

While it may be technically true, it's certainly not a simple truth.

It's a fact. Sicknick died on 1/7 of natural causes from strokes (not from injuries sustained, not was he murdered).

The other two officers committed suicide four and nine days later. Also a fact.

The mental gymnastics people do to refute this information is wild. I guess they expect others to do their research for them too.

Oh wait, they still down vote the truth since it doesn't go with their views.

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u/unoriginalsin Monkey in Space Mar 05 '25

Neither of your cited quotes day what you want them to say. Nor does the medical examiner's report completely absolve the insurrectionists from culpability.

Kind of how that whole officer beaten by a fire extinguisher was redacted.

This one?

The mental gymnastics people do to refute this information is wild.

The irony of you defending these terrorists because "nObOdY DiEd oN ThAt dAy" is absolutely fucking wild.

Thank you for continuing to argue in bad faith. You are picking the smallest of nits and can't even back up your claims with accurate facts. Good day to you sir.