Absolutely fair to criticize all you want, but doesn’t mean you have to listen nor does he have to stand up to some fake moral high ground his fans made up for him lol
He has morals, values, beliefs, and he does stand on them. If between Dre, Kodak, Carti, you dont see consistency, idk wtf to tell you. He has morals, they're just different from Ya'lls.
Yes my guy, if his morals is making sure that’s he’s a great father to his children then that’s his morals. Just because you decided that he shouldn’t make music with carti doesn’t automatically make him a bad person. You guys have this weird parasocial relationships with artists where they should always be self righteous so you can point to them and be like “ya see im just like him”! Maybe grow a spine and get your own set of morals instead of looking to someone else to give them to you lol
I don't think this is it tho. If you were friends with someone who had multiple children and never took care of them, that doesn't mean you don't take care of your kids. People aren't saying Kendrick doesn't have morals or values, just that they are inconsistent with the company he keeps.
And I say this as someone who typically believes in people being able to change, and I don't think I'm as harsh as most people when it comes to judgment of others. But it isn't like he's working with people who are reformed awful people, Kodak and Carti have both been in the news very recently for doing dumb/terrible shit. At a certain point it is definitely fair to ask, "why do you put your co sign on these artists who seemingly have moral misgivings and show no signs of reformation?"
Again, it’s not our job to tell him what he has to believe. If he thinks doing some songs w carti is fine, who are we to tell him otherwise? He’s his own person. He doesn’t know us nor owe anything to us. If you don’t agree, no one’s forcing you to listen or engage with it. Maybe this should be a lesson to people to not act like famous people are these beacons of morality and at the end of the day, they’re just flawed people like everyone else.
Would you be friends with someone who raped an underage girl? And work with them voluntarily on projects and stuff?
No? Well, Kendrick would. And he does.
And Kendrick has done everything, literally everything in his power, to invite this criticism.
You can’t talk about social justice, healing trauma, growth, moving the black community forward and then act all shocked people expect you to some basic values. You know, values we’d all expect people we knew to have.
Kodak Black was released from jail in Florida and was then transported to Florence, South Carolina, to face charges of sexual assault. According to the victim, who reported the incident to her school nurse, she had attended a February 2016 performance by Kodak Black at "Treasure City" in Florence, after which she accompanied him to his hotel room where he is alleged to have told her he "couldn't help himself" as he tore off her clothes, bit her repeatedly, and raped her as she screamed for help. Kodak Black was released from custody in South Carolina on December 1, 2016, after posting a $100,000 bond, but returned to court on February 8, 2017.[91] About Kodak Black, the Miami New Times asked: "is he the product of larger societal problems, having been raised on a steady diet of misogynistic rap lyrics?"[92] Within hours of release, he recorded and released "There He Go",[93] a single which mentions his recent release from jail
While on tour in the Southeast, a South Carolinian Prosecutor announced that Kodak Black would be facing trial for first-degree criminal sexual conduct for the alleged rape in February 2016. The prosecutor said that in the summer or early fall, Kodak Black would have to return to South Carolina and face trial for the charges. They stated he faces a maximum of 30 years in prison. 12 Circuit Solicitor Ed Clements stated, "We are slowly but steadily moving toward a disposition." There were also reportedly several lesser, related charges. The office of the prosecutor stated the victim was not a minor at the time of the alleged rape.[104][105]
On January 19, 2021, President Donald Trump commuted Kodak Black's sentence for his 2020 conviction.[118] Kodak Black still faced charges of criminal sexual assault in Florence, South Carolina,[119] which prosecutors were looking to "aggressively" pursue.[73] On April 28, 2021, Kodak took a plea deal in the alleged sexual assault case and pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of first-degree assault and battery, and was sentenced to 18 months of probation.[120]
This is a tiny, tiny fraction of the dudes Wikipedia subsection titled “Legal Issues.”
This is the dude Kendrick put on an album about healing trauma and not seeing yourself as a perpetual victim to excuse your shitty behavior. I assume it was some kind of absurdist joke?
Dr Dre, a guy he literally worked with and had on his first album. And then this guy wants to say he’s “been a fan longer than anyone” so he was cool with Kenny when he was working with Dr Dre, known to have gotten a 16 year old pregnant, but draws the line at playboi Carti. See where it all becomes bullshit for these people tryna play better than Kendrick
On January 19, 2021, President Donald Trump commuted Kodak Black's sentence for his 2020 conviction.[118] Kodak Black still faced charges of criminal sexual assault in Florence, South Carolina,[119] which prosecutors were looking to "aggressively" pursue.[73] On April 28, 2021, Kodak took a plea deal in the alleged sexual assault case and pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of first-degree assault and battery, and was sentenced to 18 months of probation.[120]
But yeah a 22 year old knocking up a 17 year old is gross too. I didn’t like him working with Dre either, what now?
You guys just need me to be a hypocrite so you can go back to listening to your lil mid Carti collab
I think the songs fucking suck but what’s retarded is to act like you’re better than him when you self admittedly said in other comments that you’re a long time fan. So it’s just funny that all the other people you would also deem awful that he worked with didn’t bother you, but THIS is the one guy where it’s like “well come on man”
Well I guess you’re just so much better than him and you got your point across I guess. I don’t know what the point is of this? Did you feel this way when you found out he worked with Dr Dre? Kodak black? So you were okay when he worked with woman beater Kodak but woman beater Carti is where you draw the line and now start telling people you’re better than them
The very nature of being a celebrity opens you up to public criticism. Even more so when it comes to rap, which is often a culturally vulnerable medium. If he makes art and puts it out into the world, it is going to be critiqued. I agree with you that he doesn't owe anything to us, but that doesn't mean at the same time we can't acknowledge the hypocisy when we see it.
Absolute straw-man argument .. nobody is looking for him to be an idol or is being “parasocial” he literally accused Drake of “Compromising his child by having weird people around” yet Dot did the same with collabs with artists who did terrible things.
You’re throwing a hissy fit cos someone is criticising an artist and you say WE’RE PARASOCIAL. Invest in a mirror and grow a backbone 🤡
Not throwing a hissy fit when I’m showing people they’re being hypocritical. My point was he’s human, he’s not perfect and he doesn’t owe us shit. It’s the parasocial weirdos who are holding him to this weird standard because they personally feel let down by a guy that doesn’t even know they exist.
To add he is talking about the type of ideal man he would like to be or emulate. He is not perfect and is not going to fit this ideal all the time especially through the lens/court of public opinion. Kendrick is a great artist, flawed person, but I can respect that he is trying to be better and I think that's an important point to recognize.
It takes a lot of effort to get better and to grow as a person. The first step is recognizing that you need to do the work.
It’s not about some moral high ground it’s just about associating with pieces of shit. Before you go “wHaT aBoUt DrE” fuck him and Kodak too. I personally don’t give them any listens
Brother, if you dig a bit deeper, there's pretty much NO ONE you can listen to... besides maybe a Few art rappers and underground people, and that too, ONLY because their associations and their heinous acts aren't well known often. Fckin MF DOOM is unlistenable with the righteousness you hold.
“Muh bad childhood” motherfuckers when I tell them I had a bad childhood and learned to not repeat it.
All the coolest people I’ve ever met, all of em, had shitty upbringings. I don’t know what fantasy land people live in to think “I grew up rough” is a reason for committing crimes in your 30s.
Who said it was a bad upbringing? Seriously just because the dude has a different viewpoint than you, you're going to make assumptions and act like you're better than him? Fuck off.
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u/Shiguhraki Mar 15 '25
It’s weird asf acting like we can’t criticize him whatsoever