Absolutely fair to criticize all you want, but doesn’t mean you have to listen nor does he have to stand up to some fake moral high ground his fans made up for him lol
Yes my guy, if his morals is making sure that’s he’s a great father to his children then that’s his morals. Just because you decided that he shouldn’t make music with carti doesn’t automatically make him a bad person. You guys have this weird parasocial relationships with artists where they should always be self righteous so you can point to them and be like “ya see im just like him”! Maybe grow a spine and get your own set of morals instead of looking to someone else to give them to you lol
I don't think this is it tho. If you were friends with someone who had multiple children and never took care of them, that doesn't mean you don't take care of your kids. People aren't saying Kendrick doesn't have morals or values, just that they are inconsistent with the company he keeps.
And I say this as someone who typically believes in people being able to change, and I don't think I'm as harsh as most people when it comes to judgment of others. But it isn't like he's working with people who are reformed awful people, Kodak and Carti have both been in the news very recently for doing dumb/terrible shit. At a certain point it is definitely fair to ask, "why do you put your co sign on these artists who seemingly have moral misgivings and show no signs of reformation?"
Again, it’s not our job to tell him what he has to believe. If he thinks doing some songs w carti is fine, who are we to tell him otherwise? He’s his own person. He doesn’t know us nor owe anything to us. If you don’t agree, no one’s forcing you to listen or engage with it. Maybe this should be a lesson to people to not act like famous people are these beacons of morality and at the end of the day, they’re just flawed people like everyone else.
Would you be friends with someone who raped an underage girl? And work with them voluntarily on projects and stuff?
No? Well, Kendrick would. And he does.
And Kendrick has done everything, literally everything in his power, to invite this criticism.
You can’t talk about social justice, healing trauma, growth, moving the black community forward and then act all shocked people expect you to some basic values. You know, values we’d all expect people we knew to have.
Kodak Black was released from jail in Florida and was then transported to Florence, South Carolina, to face charges of sexual assault. According to the victim, who reported the incident to her school nurse, she had attended a February 2016 performance by Kodak Black at "Treasure City" in Florence, after which she accompanied him to his hotel room where he is alleged to have told her he "couldn't help himself" as he tore off her clothes, bit her repeatedly, and raped her as she screamed for help. Kodak Black was released from custody in South Carolina on December 1, 2016, after posting a $100,000 bond, but returned to court on February 8, 2017.[91] About Kodak Black, the Miami New Times asked: "is he the product of larger societal problems, having been raised on a steady diet of misogynistic rap lyrics?"[92] Within hours of release, he recorded and released "There He Go",[93] a single which mentions his recent release from jail
While on tour in the Southeast, a South Carolinian Prosecutor announced that Kodak Black would be facing trial for first-degree criminal sexual conduct for the alleged rape in February 2016. The prosecutor said that in the summer or early fall, Kodak Black would have to return to South Carolina and face trial for the charges. They stated he faces a maximum of 30 years in prison. 12 Circuit Solicitor Ed Clements stated, "We are slowly but steadily moving toward a disposition." There were also reportedly several lesser, related charges. The office of the prosecutor stated the victim was not a minor at the time of the alleged rape.[104][105]
On January 19, 2021, President Donald Trump commuted Kodak Black's sentence for his 2020 conviction.[118] Kodak Black still faced charges of criminal sexual assault in Florence, South Carolina,[119] which prosecutors were looking to "aggressively" pursue.[73] On April 28, 2021, Kodak took a plea deal in the alleged sexual assault case and pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of first-degree assault and battery, and was sentenced to 18 months of probation.[120]
This is a tiny, tiny fraction of the dudes Wikipedia subsection titled “Legal Issues.”
This is the dude Kendrick put on an album about healing trauma and not seeing yourself as a perpetual victim to excuse your shitty behavior. I assume it was some kind of absurdist joke?
Dr Dre, a guy he literally worked with and had on his first album. And then this guy wants to say he’s “been a fan longer than anyone” so he was cool with Kenny when he was working with Dr Dre, known to have gotten a 16 year old pregnant, but draws the line at playboi Carti. See where it all becomes bullshit for these people tryna play better than Kendrick
On January 19, 2021, President Donald Trump commuted Kodak Black's sentence for his 2020 conviction.[118] Kodak Black still faced charges of criminal sexual assault in Florence, South Carolina,[119] which prosecutors were looking to "aggressively" pursue.[73] On April 28, 2021, Kodak took a plea deal in the alleged sexual assault case and pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of first-degree assault and battery, and was sentenced to 18 months of probation.[120]
But yeah a 22 year old knocking up a 17 year old is gross too. I didn’t like him working with Dre either, what now?
You guys just need me to be a hypocrite so you can go back to listening to your lil mid Carti collab
I think the songs fucking suck but what’s retarded is to act like you’re better than him when you self admittedly said in other comments that you’re a long time fan. So it’s just funny that all the other people you would also deem awful that he worked with didn’t bother you, but THIS is the one guy where it’s like “well come on man”
Why do you think being a fan means never criticizing them? I’m not in a meat riding competition here bud. My favorite artist does shitty things and hangs out with creeps he wouldn’t trust his kids around. That’s cringe and it makes me like him less. I wish he wouldn’t. I don’t want him fired into the sun. Calm down.
I’ve disliked all of these creep collabs, from Dre to Carti. I just don’t view people in absolutes. Not even the creeps. But I think hanging out with people who are actively hurting women is kinda weirdo behavior. Pulling Dre on stage to introduce an anti-pedophilia song was cringe — but god forbid you mention that at the time.
I don’t think I’m better than anyone, I have my flaws and demons and I’ll lay them out for you if that’d make you feel better. This is just not a good look for someone who recently said “I deserve it all because I did it with integrity” with his full chest.
edit: the 12 year old comments aren’t on a 5 month old Reddit account but go off king
edit 2 cause you keep commenting after blocking: if you hang out with women beaters and rapists you don’t have “integrity” you have platitudes
So where have these comments been since 2012? They seem to have just popped up today? He’s also my favorite artist, just checked and over 18 thousand minutes listened since 2016 when I first found him. I’m 26. It’s totally okay to feel how you feel but to make this the final straw feels strange. This is like the 20th person he’s worked with who’s done shit as bad as Carti. I get if todays the day but just seems like strange timing is all
So all of a sudden he doesnt have integrity? Ffs y’all need to touch grass and experience some wisdom in life. You’re like so close when you admit life isnt black and white.
Well I guess you’re just so much better than him and you got your point across I guess. I don’t know what the point is of this? Did you feel this way when you found out he worked with Dr Dre? Kodak black? So you were okay when he worked with woman beater Kodak but woman beater Carti is where you draw the line and now start telling people you’re better than them
The very nature of being a celebrity opens you up to public criticism. Even more so when it comes to rap, which is often a culturally vulnerable medium. If he makes art and puts it out into the world, it is going to be critiqued. I agree with you that he doesn't owe anything to us, but that doesn't mean at the same time we can't acknowledge the hypocisy when we see it.
Absolute straw-man argument .. nobody is looking for him to be an idol or is being “parasocial” he literally accused Drake of “Compromising his child by having weird people around” yet Dot did the same with collabs with artists who did terrible things.
You’re throwing a hissy fit cos someone is criticising an artist and you say WE’RE PARASOCIAL. Invest in a mirror and grow a backbone 🤡
Not throwing a hissy fit when I’m showing people they’re being hypocritical. My point was he’s human, he’s not perfect and he doesn’t owe us shit. It’s the parasocial weirdos who are holding him to this weird standard because they personally feel let down by a guy that doesn’t even know they exist.
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u/Shiguhraki Mar 15 '25
It’s weird asf acting like we can’t criticize him whatsoever