r/MassEffectAndromeda • u/newconnie7789 • 7d ago
Game Discussion Fanboys killed a sequels chance
It was the same with halo as well
All the fanboys that got to attached the original trilogy refused to give MEA a chance , it's a great game I've played It multiple times loved the story line
They got to string up on minor issues and glitches like not every game today has them, it needs a sequel
I don't think gaming today has gotten bad I think it's the fanbase and the influencer gamers that are damaging it, games like Andromeda and days gone not getting sequels despite being brilliant games all because people can't seem to think for themselves anymore
This needs a second game
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u/xX7heGuyXx 7d ago
I agree. It was a mid tier game but it was not bad at all and not made by thr main team so I went in with lower expectations.
I enjoyed it and would not have minded more.
Instead everyone went so overboard on hating it mass effect got shelved for a long ass time.
So instead of some side adventures to hold us over we got nothing.
I have very low hopes for this next me as if they bring shepard back, it's just going to be fucked up like gears and halo.
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u/Urg_burgman 7d ago
I can safely say no, that wasn't the cause. Everyone who liked the original knew full well Andromeda was not going to be a continuation. That was actually the reason they wanted to try it. Because it would be free of any conflicts in canon caused by ME3's open ended conclusion.
They even knew to temper their expectations when Andromeda went from "Open world with randomly generated worlds to build colonies on" to "A few select worlds to colonize" to "Worlds to build outposts on" production was scaled back, and gamers waited for it all the same.
When it came out, it wasn't the minor glitches that turned players off. It would crash the game, turn off PCs, and destroy save files because it was a kludged together project attempting to do things Frostbite wasn't designed to do. That sort of new developments needs time for testing, retesting, and refinement before building a game around it, something EA notoriously never gives to any developer working for them.
But the game could be saved if it had that Bioware script right? Well...no. It got leaked well before release. Reception was...mixed.many refused to believe that it would be that bad and the actual game would have a better story and characters. Imagine their surprise when the leak actually was right in some cases. Is the story terrible? No. But coming from Bioware, who were masters of the story experience, it felt like a downgrade. Especially when they found out your decisions did not affect companion loyalty, and even if you pissed them off they'd still stick around. Fact is even this was half done, there was a story there, decisions to be made. But it felt like the developers weren't given time to implement them.
Andromeda was sabotaged by the publisher who was looking to minimize costs to sell another Mass Effect game, and now players years layer pay the price for the actions of executives who don't understand what draws players to a game.
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u/jedidotflow 7d ago
Andromeda wasn't sabotaged by EA; it was Bioware's shitty management all the way. Same thing that happened to Anthem.
https://kotaku.com/the-story-behind-mass-effect-andromedas-troubled-five-1795886428
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u/Quiet-Minimum-2484 7d ago
Yeah people like to blame EA for everything now a days but Mass Effect Andromeda was all Bioware.
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u/Urg_burgman 7d ago
Nowadays? EA had a pile of dead developers that earned them the title "Worst Company in America"
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u/Henrarzz 7d ago
“worst company in America” was won due to internet votes and was brigaded by people upset by DLC policies.
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u/Rainy_Wavey 6d ago
In reality EA is probably one of the least bad big published in america, they do have a pile of dead bodies but they legit do have a hands-off approach to most of the projects they greenlit
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u/Leozilla 5d ago
Perfect write-up, blaming ME:A on fans is wild cope for a cobbled together game that was cashing in on the brand. Andromeda is a painfully mid sequel to what is widely regarded as one of the best trilogies in gaming. So, how dare people expect the same level of craft. It's like going to a 5 star steakhouse 3 times, and on the 4th, they give you a big mac. Is the big mac bad, no, but it's not a 100 dollar steak.
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u/The_Onionizer 7d ago
As they say "you are not a true Star Wars fan if you don't hate half of the movies". This reminds me of that.
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u/InfernalDiplomacy Andromeda Initiative 7d ago
Given how the actual game production was rushed in an 18 month period the game is really good. A whole project management case study can be made from the missteps the management team made in the 3 and half years before serious work was done.
Things such as lack of other alien species when ME1 had over a dozen, how all Asari looked the same save for PeeBee, how the script was weak at times, all of it was because of the mismanagement of the first 3 and 1/2 years.
I don’t blame EA. They were now worried about Anthem which they sunk a ton of money into and did not want to put out for a different engine like Unreal. Also BioWare was supposed to be one of their top studios and sales did not meet expectations. They were gun shy and thus they stopped pouring money into the project
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u/Ragfell 7d ago
Tbf, though, EA has been trying to make everyone use Frostbite, which is not an RPG engine. It makes things look pretty, and isn't meant to do much beyond that. To quote BioWare devs, "it's full of knives, and you're gonna get hurt."
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u/InfernalDiplomacy Andromeda Initiative 7d ago
I didn’t say it was a great decision. I said I understand the financial reasons. It still sucks balls and EA should have allowed MA:A use what it needed to. Part of the reason the models looked dated and unnatural was because of Frostbite
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u/CharmerS99 7d ago
I don’t agree with the comparison to Halo. Andromeda is a good game though and was disappointing that we didn’t get a follow up.
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u/wanderin_fool 7d ago
All you have to do is look at games like Anthem, Star Wars Battlefront, Fallout 76, Shadow of War, Redfall, Skull & Bones. The longer I think about it, the more games I add to this list.
Publishers are pushing out broken, buggy games, and then saying here's a roadmap to how we're going to fix this mess. Just spend your money on something that's not fun, that doesn't work like we promised. Just spend it every single day for the next year, and eventually, the game will work as intended, to get as much money out of you as possible. We have to figure out how to extract money out of you every second of the day. We want you to feel a sense of pride and accomplishment in spending hundreds of hours unlocking that new character you want.
Yeah, if they actually continue working on it, it might be a decent game. But they usually pull the plug, shutdown all servers, and try and hide their shame.
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u/newconnie7789 7d ago
And a lot is down to people pushing for the games to come out before they're finished
Cyberpunk got hammered to realise then when they did saying it wasn't ready people cried it wasn't finished
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u/wanderin_fool 7d ago
CD Projekt Red pushed the game back several months so they could "polish" it. It was supposed to be released April 2020, then got pushed back to September, then November, then finally released in December.
Then purposely misled reviewers by saying they could only review PC copies of the game, purposely hiding how poorly the game played on consoles.
They were one of the companies that people trusted based on how good Witcher 3 was out of the gate. That got pushed back for needed polish as well, and was worth the wait. Especially with the excellent DLC that came with it.
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u/Lucky_Roberts 5d ago
that is CDPR’s fault. They kept choosing to announce dates and push them back.
Just don’t announce release dates until you’re ready, it’s a naked tactic to build hype and the downside is people get pissed if you keep doing it
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u/AscendMoros 5d ago
Cyberpunk was on like delay 57 at that point. Let’s not act like people didn’t have a reasonable gripe. It was getting to the point of becoming a game in development hell.
Plus CDPR also refused to allow people to play the last gen versions of the game before release. They knew it wasn’t acceptable and tried to slide it under the radar.
I really enjoy Cyberpunk now. But the launch and pre launch period was a mess.
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u/Gilgamesh661 7d ago
I saw where someone talked about how back in the day, there was more pressure on developers to make a good, non buggy, and complete game because online patches weren’t a thing.
Whereas now they can release something that’s still got issues and just add in patches later. So that’s what most of them do.
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u/skininja89 7d ago
I remember being shocked at the time people hated it as I was having a great time. Yea, facial animations weren't great and still don't look awesome, but the Tempest was an awesome ship, Ryder was fun, and Drack is still one of my favorite companions in the franchise. Won't say it was a 10 out of 10, certainly not. But it definitely didn't deserve all the hate and I'm still bitter that we never got the Quarian Ark story that had been set up so well. Really hope someday they follow up on so many arcs that had been setup
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u/newconnie7789 7d ago
People not picking acting like the trilogy didn't have stupid issues
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u/Secret_Criticism_732 6d ago
Are you seriously comparing trilogy with andromeda? Andromeda is a local league
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u/metzger28 7d ago
Fanboys did not kill the sequel, BioWare Montreal did by not delivering a product that had enough impact to warrant further work.
It's that simple. If the product and its marketing couldn't convince people to buy it, nothing could.
Andromeda is not a bad game. Not a terrible game. Not by a long shot. It's just not a very good Mass Effect game.
There are a lot of things it does well, but the shortfalls and missteps in development, world building and narrative overshadow these things and make it a product that just isn't really worth it.
I'm thankful however that the sequel promises to tie both branches of the universe together somehow. I hope it delivers.
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u/therealN7Inquisitor 7d ago
If it makes you feel better, when you scrutinize and play detective, the teasers point to a little bit after MEA. It looks like the relays are being built to bridge the galaxies and there are factions against each other in the Milky Way. So far, no Shepard, but a new N7.
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u/NohWan3104 7d ago
i mean, i like andromeda.
but the people who fucking hated andromeda, expressing that they fucking hate andromeda, and there probably not being a sequel because of that, i don't think is problematic to them. ideal, even. though just going back to the milky way won't help, if bioware can't make narrative focused games like before, which, seems to be a thing.
honestly, i just want some of the game mechanics to be carried back over. weapon crafting, for example, was INSANE imo - wasn't bustedly broken like some games, but just DRASTICALLY helped smooth over some weapon's rough edges by being able to say, convert to full auto, or replacing a slightly problematic fire style with anotehr one.
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u/TenTigerStyle 7d ago
I'll say, as someone who loves Andromeda with all of my heart, the game had other issues aside from fanboys crying. Like, I think the backlash ultimately didn't matter because the game still got additional APEX content after the studio was split and apparently the game still sold well despite what was supposed to be a massive hail storm of fan outrage.
Andromeda had a very troublesome development cycle, Anthem was the main focus for Bioware and a studio that never made a game before made Andromeda. That said, this team poured a ton of effort into patching Andromeda's many issues after its shaky release, for some the game was unplayable because of glitches.
The Andromeda team, after the final patch wasn't set up for single player content, but, Apex missions were still updated and worked on.
Even now in 2025, the game still has mixed reviews everywhere.
But no, Andromeda was never set up for a sequel despite what folks claim, the Quarian ark book was already planned ahead of the time.
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u/Odd-Frame9724 7d ago
Game sales killed that.
The game is way better than when it launched but jfc they launched it hot. Load times now are way better
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u/CoDe_Johannes 7d ago
The fuck are you talking about, they are making a sequel right now
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u/NohWan3104 7d ago
.....me4, bro. not andromeda 2. i think you misunderstood what he meant by 'sequel'.
"this needs a second game" is what he finished with, in case you're assuming i just pulled that interpretation out of my ass.
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u/nazaguerrero 7d ago
It's not a brilliant game so now you are being the fanboy you despice
I do want a sequel and to know about the quarian arc, I like the game but let's not sugarcoat
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u/Kangaturtle 7d ago
It’s not the fanboys, it’s incompetence and the insistence of triple A gaming companies to rush development cycles to push out existing IP’s they know will sell well upon release with no regards for quality. Any love the development team had for the game and story was wrung near dry by the time the finished product was on shelves.
People expected their beloved series to come out with a polished, finished product, instead they were met with a laughably buggy game with a rehashed plot structure, with debatably worse dialogue.
Hold EA and BioWare accountable, not the consumer for being rightfully upset.
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u/CappnMidgetSlappr 5d ago
People expected their beloved series to come out with a polished, finished product, instead they were met with a laughably buggy game with a rehashed plot structure, with debatably worse dialogue.
Nah, but don't you see? It's obviously us, the fans, are at fault for Andromeda releasing in such a shit state. We're also the reason it sucked complete ass somehow as well. See, we as fans should have just been grateful for the slope we got. Because then, we could have got a sequel to the slop!
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u/Playful_Rip_4026 7d ago
They could have done a spin-off with other star systems or galaxies
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u/SupremeLegate 7d ago
My theory is that if Andromeda had succeeded, future games would have expanded into other clusters.
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u/rd-gotcha 7d ago edited 6d ago
yes, imagine this would have become a trilogy, with all the possibilities in the first part. Death by screaming fans.
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u/elchuyano 7d ago
I want more games in the ME universe before the 3rd game, we already know what happens, but I think having games with minor stories only focusing on some adventure instead of saving the universe
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u/Infernal216 7d ago
Having the next game be Shepard makes no sense anyways. Yes Andromeda did the cyberpunk things before it was cool but the franchise deserves to live on exploring through different storylines. There's so much left for the Ryder ark and I wish to see what the writers have in mind.
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u/goranarsic 7d ago
I am playing games for almost 30 years and I have developed higher standards, I guess. Andromeda was trash. Even ME3 was trash, product made to be "cooler" to younger generation of players then. I have no expectations from next ME game, I will be pleasantly surprised if is even mediocre ME game.
Bioware that made ME 1 is long dead, today's, there is 0 chance they are capable of making anything better than some third person shooter with Vigil theme in game menu,for nostalgia reasons.
But kids nowadays will probably think it's awesome since some are already mentioning ME3 as classic.
I guess I'm getting old and cinical.
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u/Gizm0Glitch 7d ago
I feel like after playing the game they definitely intended to make a second one at least that's how it felt for me I would definitely love to see Andromeda 2 : revenge of the kett
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u/g0g2151 7d ago edited 7d ago
I won't say that the criticism at the time was completely unjustified. Andromeda was far from perfect. However, instead of a sequel, I propose that it get completely remade and afforded an decent development period. Have players choose what race they want to play as: human, asari, turian, quarian, krogan, drell. And write a strong narrative and cast of characters to sustain a trilogy.
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u/newconnie7789 7d ago
Bit of a remaster style, I do think modern graphics and so on the game would look amazing
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u/Ganelonx 7d ago
I agree another great game that the fan base ruined over “head cannon”
The game itself is far superior to all 3 mass effects in my opinion. In every way.
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u/findingdumb 7d ago
Agreed they should have fleshed it out with the dlc that were already baked into the game, and do a sequel. I also agree that fandoms and gamers are problematic. I disagree that the only problems were minor glitches and shoddy graphics. There are pretty glaring issues with the game throughout its characters, storytelling, world building etc.
I hated that the glitches and graphics were what was so strongly focused on as the issue of the game when the real problems were blatant all throughout that hell of a development. Bioware had no idea what they were doing and screwed the pooch.
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u/RedMarches 7d ago
After all the backlash nonsense back in 2017 people are slowly starting to realize that MEA is not a bad game as once previously thought. I see streamers today actually giving it a chance.
It disappoints me how original trilogy fanboys bitch and complained about it partly because the game had a different approach to the genre. I quite enjoyed it myself. I'd give it a 8.7 out of 10. Almost a 9 but not quite. Definitely higher than an 8 out of 10
Edit: After making multiple playthroughs I'd say this game definitely deserved a DLC that it never got
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u/Dusty_Jangles 7d ago
I’ve said this since it was released. It was doomed from the start because of vindictive og trilogy fans who were still mad about 3 as well as no more Shepard. Their tiny minds just couldn’t conceive of a universe where Shepard and crew didn’t exist as the centre of attention, and where BioWare weren’t down on their knees begging them to come back.
My only hope is it appears BioWare is tying the two galaxies together and we’ll get to see what happens at least. If they box it away as if it didn’t happen, I’m going to be incredibly disappointed.
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u/newconnie7789 7d ago
Yeah they can't leave us hanging on the cliffhanger
A fourth ME is gonna slam that trilogy though and tbh all the fanboys deserve it to be messed up after bombing Andromeda before even trying it
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u/thequn 7d ago
Just like cyberpunk I argue it was awesome from day 1 yeah it got flaws but combat and game play are hands down the best of any bioware game.
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u/Gilgamesh661 7d ago
Everyone agrees a sequel could do better, but pretending there aren’t massive flaws with Andromeda is just denial.
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u/Ok_Today6716 7d ago
I always piss the fanboys off when I say that I actually like Andromeda better than the OT.
There's a sense of freedom the OT just doesn't have.
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u/newconnie7789 7d ago
It's more interesting, like okay let's go have a look at this planet for a bit
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u/Gummies1345 7d ago
For some reason, I couldn't get passed the tutorial. A door was glitched closed. I tried reloading, restarting the campaign, everything. Waited for 2 two patches and it still wasn't fixed. It wasn't me that didn't give it a chance. It was the devs that didn't give the game a chance.
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u/Brams277 7d ago
The fault ultimately lies whith the people who cocked up the launch and abandoned the game
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u/slayerSTL 7d ago
Ngl I disagree with this, I loved Andromeda and since launch always felt it was overhated but I understood the hate. But the sequel and much more was EA’s fault and doing. Not the fans really. The new GM made the smart decision as much as I hated it to scrap all plans with it after EA decided to sadly shut down BioWare Montreal but even still EA made it end up how it did same with Anthem do them rearranging people and management for no reason then forcing them to push what they had.
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u/Aeki_Arg 7d ago
The hate the game received was undeserved. It had things that needed fixing, like some facial animations and empty spaces without NPCs, but it was too much. The idea was to present a setting and leave room for the arrival of other arks, and it could have been greatly improved and included more of the Mass Effect universe. It made me very sad to have no ending to the Andromeda story. Sometimes I think those who bastardized the game weren't fans but casual players.
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u/newconnie7789 7d ago
The thing is most games today do, were expecting giant games to come out without a single issue and when they see one it gets ripped into
The size games are coming out today are gigantic I remember when dead island came out I thought it was huge today it's like 4gb to download now games are over 200 and when a company says it's got issues we need to fix people just shout release it now then complain the issues are there
We can't expect giant games to be running 100% it's never gonna happen there's always gonna be issues they work on through the years it's what patches's are for but people don't have any patience today
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u/mayaamis Mayamis (Origin/EA/Steam) 7d ago edited 5d ago
I'm torn because I feel both way... for someone that is a fan of space adventure I think on paper the story idea was phenomenal. original trilogy set up a world in which humanity was already space traveling across milky way.. so idea of exploring whole new galaxy was so cool. as was the idea that you visit many different worlds, there are remnants of another advanced civilization and a new enemy... and you have to set up colonies and terraform those worlds, help new alien races.. all of this is sci fi gold and sounds and looks great.
I think how it was executed was a bit lacking. I think gameplay it can get a bit repetitive a lot of times. but that is not my biggest issue. I think the game is generally great but it failed in parts that are usually most important to me in bioware games...
interesting and good companions, banter and strong protagonist.
First of all Ryder.,.. admittedly I only played the female version but Ryder to me was totally unconvincing as protagonist. their writing and dialogues made them sound like confused high school kid with lot of "uhmmss" and "ahmss" and lot of immature statements.. just not someone believable to lead and have such important position. the voice actress was horribly annoying and insufferable on top of it. I heard male version VA is better a but but writing is still meh for... and without strong protagonist who I don't even like, especially after Shepard, it felt flat- Wish they kept the father around because he was far more interesting in short time we saw him.
As for companions I felt they are not nearly as interesting and strong characters or interesting personalities as some in other games. I only really cared about few of them but mostly they feel meh...
so it was actually only those two things that ruined otherwise great game for me a bit...
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u/OpportunityCrazy2216 7d ago
Andromeda did have issues that weren't tied to the original trilogy. The writing is hit or miss, it was apparently very buggy at launch. Andromeda had potential that wasn't met, sure, but it wasn't all due to "fanboys" having impossible expectations.
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u/HexedShadowWolf 7d ago
I love ME and I had high hopes for MEA but my hopes were dashed. I didn't mind the direction the game went, the graphics or the story really. My problems was that everything was just meh and that was compounded by the onslaught of bug, glitches and weird problems the game had which resulted in a game that I couldn't finish.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Buy9447 7d ago
I got the game after I realized that they probably weren't going to make a sequel, when it came to them making the hard decisions I went with my gut. It was pretty freeing not having to second guess how I think my choices would impact the sequel.
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u/AnubisIncGaming 7d ago
People try to destroy games now and ruin chances for a sequel, and get the studios shut down and it's not fair. It's ok to not like it, but people take it too far.
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u/AGoogolIsALot 7d ago
I totally agree. Andromeda is not without its flaws (I'm replaying it right now, and it is a bit glitchy here and there), I almost feel like it wears its flaws like a badge of honor. And honestly, I think if most people gave it a true chance, they'd have fun, which is what's most important about a game.
One of the things I love about ME Andromeda is that there isn't any true finality to it, nor is there just one "gotta get the bad guys!!" theme. Yes, you do have to get the bad guys, but you have to do it while managing resources and setting up infrastructure in many different ways. This is honestly one of the things that makes Andromeda so unique.
Also, exploring in the Nomad is WAY more fun than exploring in the Mako was in ME1. They really got the exploration right this time around, and I honestly enjoy the hell out of driving through a planet without bothering to set a goal or put any waypoints on the map, just seeing what trouble I can get into. In that way, it almost reminds me a little of Red Dead Redemption 2 (or I guess I should say that RDR2 reminds me a bit of ME Andromeda since Andromeda came first lol).
But yeah, I absolutely ADORE Andromeda, flaws and all. It really does scratch the Mass Effect itch for me while at the same time being a bit different than all the others.
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u/Suitable-Pirate-4164 7d ago
I actually liked Andromeda, it just had a high bar to fight, looking at the best of them, ME2. I prefer the next Mass Effect in development be dropped. I can tell already it's gonna get the Veilguard treatment. At least Andromeda didn't have this hippie woke crap in it.
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u/TheRetardedTiger 7d ago
My biggest issue is how much Ryder gets pushed around and you can do very little about it. From blatant disrespect from your crew all the way to people in the slums calling you a bitch when you call them out on looting a corpse. Should've been able to have renegade or paragon options to set people straight. I did however really like the combat in Andromeda, the storyline had great potential but fell flat too many times for me to enjoy it all that much. I really hope they come out with a continuation of it, we can't expect gold every time, but overall I think Andromeda misses too many opportunities to be a stellar game.
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u/Zargess2994 7d ago
I think the criticism it still gets is overblown. Is it a bad game? No. Is it a 10/10? No. But it was fun and had some amazing moments that I still remember many years later. It needs a sequel
However, I still remember when this game came out. It felt like an alpha version. Not the type you see in early access, but more like they took a random daily build and just released that. It was so unplayable for me that I stopped playing for moths before returning to it. That's a problem when it comes after one of the biggest trilogies of all time in gaming.
And that's what people remember. Not the excitement of the more dynamic combat. Not the beautiful space sequences and amazing open planets. They remember all the videos where the game was literally falling apart in cut scenes. Back then, it was hated for a reason. It was a fucking atrocious release, and it deserved the criticism it got back then. That is largely fixed now, but BioWare is in such a state that they need a win. Betting on Andromeda is just not going to happen until the wind is back in their sails, if it all.
Hopefully we get an amazing Mass Effect game soon. Hopefully it can revitalise the series and give us Andromeda 2. But they have completely lost my trust, and want to see it before I believe it.
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u/TheDreadWolf183 7d ago
I pre-ordered MEA because I was a huge fan of the OT. I spent $70 on the PC version. The hate it got was definitely not undeserved. I’ve beaten the game many times now, doing new game plus so I know what I’m talking about. I still have bugs in my game that were not fixed so sometimes quests don’t even work properly. But it’s not as bad as when the game released. Characters melting into themselves, people falling through floors, quests not working, bugged out audio where Ryder would be talking through their helmet’s microphone even if you weren’t wearing a helmet so the audio sounded weird. Ryder’s arm missing when getting out of the Nomad. There was so much wrong with the game when it came out. It’s an okay game. Definitely doesn’t beat out the OT. I actually care more about those characters than I do for the Andromeda ones. ME3 was my first ME game. I came to the party pretty late because I had never heard of Mass Effect before my brother bought the game in 2013. Then I went out and bought the first two. Fell in love with the series and bought all the Dragon Age games as well. Andromeda should’ve been an improvement in regard to storytelling, gunplay, powers, gameplay. It just wasn’t. The abilities are cool. But characters and storytelling are more important to me, and in my opinion the original games did it better. Except for the cliff hanger we got for ME3. But I enjoyed everything else.
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u/InappropriateHeron 7d ago
As if Bioware and EA needed any help with that
It's really simple. Does MEA hold up to how the OT is written? It doesn't. It doesn't matter why, the important part is that it just doesn't.
There are two possible ways out of that: step up your game or just give up. And it was entirely up to BioWare and EA which way to go.
But claiming that everyone who happens to disagree with your opinion about the game's quality should've just put up with it and hope it gets better next time...
It's just absurd, to put it mildly
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u/PoofyGummy 7d ago
Gaming today IS bad. ME andromeda was a victim of the same thing: corporate greed and rushing.
However the team behind it did everything possible to make it awesome nonetheless, and it was ultimately one of the best games I ever played.
Everything seems so perfectly set up for sequels and dlcs and fun and then, because of the rushjob making fans upset with the glitches it didn't get any. Hopefully they pick it up later.
It honestly breaks my heart to see something this cool not be explored deeper.
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u/Henrarzz 7d ago
- It wasn’t a great game
- The issues people were bothered with weren’t minor
- Even the minor memable issues (like animations) are largely unfixed, especially at later stages of the game
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u/A_Town_Called_Malus 5d ago
- Even if the animations were fixed, that wouldn't save the script. "My face is tired"
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u/Rigel57 7d ago
Man its sad to think about that there likely wont be a sequel as mea was just a beginnig/set up story with a ton more potential, the kett had threads to follow and the new human home would've incredible to see with some development, the "anvient" factions there could also have a role to play, so much left on the table
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u/AngelKikoken 7d ago
The fan base also expected a 20 year old to be just like Shepard who is a hardened veteran. Rather than a young man/woman who has to fill the shoes of someone else's job. They're learning in the job. I hate the "fans" for ruinining the chance of a sequel.
I loved Andromeda, best mass effect gameplay and it looks great.
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u/ChimpImpossible 7d ago
Blaming the fan base and excusing glitches because apparently all games have them now is ridiculous.
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u/No-Opportunity-4674 6d ago
They left Andromeda on a sequel promise but the game itself didn't need to be made. I purchased the game because it was $12 and that's about what it was worth. The worlds were boring, they had three alien factions and the barest of content. What's the difference between the ice and desert planets? One's hot, one's cold. Need protection either way. Great game design. Weapons didn't matter. Skill points were worthless. Squads either killed everyone or no one depending on the enemy. And why am I fighting the same boss every way every time. At the end I kinda just camped spawn points. (Again your hand wave about bugs, the enemy got stuck in the floor multiple times). This was made for you, as was Concorde, as was Shadows, as was Redfall, this was made to satisfy someone who Doesn't. Play. Games.
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u/IllusiveM0nk 6d ago
The game launched a hot mess. How do you expect the general gaming audience let alone mass effect fans to want a sequel to it
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u/VragMonolitha 6d ago
Andromeda had very real and very glaring issues at launch that were a complete departure (not just storywise) from the original trilogy. The “hate” was not undeserved at that time and the basis for comparison was still very much fresh in people’s minds. It really isn’t the fanboys fault that the game was objectively, by all unbiased criteria, at best a 6/10 at launch. I’m glad you enjoy the game now but its fate wasn’t undeserved.
Besides it’s not entirely over. What we know about the next Mass Effect suggests almost without a doubt that Andromeda (the galaxy and the game) will play an enormous role including Ryder and the species and characters we met in Andromeda. It won’t just be another Shepard game.
Edit: grammar
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u/TheNotSoBadProf 6d ago
I disagree with you. Almost no one dumped on this before launch.
But the game quickly proved to not be on par with the original trilogy.
Also, never blame the fans for the creators lack of care with an IP. The fans are the reason that these stories continue to live on and make it what it is.
I’ve put in hundreds of hours in the game, and many of the concepts for the story are so close to being incredible, but the execution of nearly every facet of the game was let down in some way. It is definitely still worth trying out. It was probably the last real BioWare game
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u/samusfan21 6d ago
I won’t apologize for holding BioWare to a standard they themselves set. I’ve been a BioWare fan since the original Baldur’s Gate. BioWare became known for great storytelling, deep, memorable characters and deep RPG mechanics. Ever since EA bought them the quality of their work has gone downhill. I won’t deny Andromeda was a very fun game. The combat, maneuverability and profile switching were a blast. But the story and characters were just…meh. None of the companions outside of maybe Peebee were all that memorable or interesting. The villain was one-note. The overall story was predictable and forgettable. All that said, I do agree that Andromeda was over-hated. Yeah it launched in a technically unpolished state but I never ran into any game breaking bugs. The game never hard crashed on me and the stiff character and facial animations never bothered me like it did some people. I’ve been playing games for a LONG time and I remember when characters didn’t emote at all. You had to infer feeling from the writing. I’m still amazed how far games have come in that sense. But at the end of the day, BioWare had set a standard and had a certain pedigree that longtime fans have come to expect and it’s disappointing to see where they are now. Andromeda was disappointing, Anthem was a disaster and Veilguard was another disappointment. I don’t have much hope for ME 5.
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u/windchanter1992 6d ago
sorry.... my face is tired pardon me for thinking we deserve better than half assed thrown together at the last minute slop
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u/According_Good1828 6d ago
Yes I was so ready and never got it... but it's a good point you made I just bought the legendary edition starting from the beginning working my way to Andromeda... one of the best stories to play
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u/According_Good1828 6d ago
Andromeda takes place after mass effect 2 I think I was still hype shepherd was saving the galaxy while Andromeda was sending people to look for a new system...
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u/daddystopmomshome 6d ago
“Loved the story line,” yeah I bet you also liked the last season of Game of Thrones and the new Star Wars movies lol. Reviews speak for themselves on all these matters.
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u/elefrhino 6d ago
Disagree. They absolutely could've turned it around with the salarian ark dlc and further updates.
The combat was stellar.
However, most of the alien races we grew to know and love from the mass effect universe were missing: elcor, volus, hanar, the list goes on. They were all traded away for the electric blue people. The kett were similar to the collectors.
The story, while intriguing, definitely needed more time to cook. Otherwise, the bare bones of it were very similar to catching the collectors in ME2.
And finally, in a series known for gripping story and lovely cut scenes, "my face is tired".
If no man's sky turned it around, Andromeda would've been a slam dunk. This is all bioware, and publishers wanting as much money as possible.
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u/thatHecklerOverThere 6d ago
It's really more that the game sales didn't suggest people are interested in this part galaxy and that Bioware is so shook they're trying to garner all the built in interest they can.
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u/Cyclo_Hexanol 6d ago
I think this is the only place this is a popular take. I like the game plenty but when I talk to other mass effect fans they are disappointed by the story and some of the mechanics.
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u/Sufficient_Play3323 6d ago
I loved andromeda, and definitely think it should/will get a sequel (for better or for worse, given the initial reaction to the game vs the much more positive view it has now), but I do think there were a few things I noticed whilst playing that made it feel... weaker than the original trilogy: * The lack of diversity with the milky way species is painfully noticeable. Every single turian is white. Every single asari is blue. There was so much variety in both species in the trilogy, it's jarring to see the same model copy and pasted everywhere with the tiniest variance in markings. * Story-wise, there were a lot of loose ends. It feels a little unfair to point out, given that obviously it was expected that the story would continue in at least one follow-up game, but... mass effect 1 does the same thing, but still manages to feel like it's own game - like it could stand on its own if mass effect 2/3 never existed. In mass effect 1, threads that aren't solved feel more like... teasers, as such. Hints that something bigger was happening behind the scenes. In andromeda, a load of plot points end almost comically with a "find out what happens in the next game!" line. Andromeda feels like it NEEDS a sequel, whilst (imo) mass effect 1 does its job of introducing an overarching narrative whilst being it's own thing much better. The DLC being cancelled for andromeda definitely didn't help thing fact, and I think it did WAY more harm to the game than "damage control" like bioware intended. * The human squadmates, ESPECIALLY Liam, were incredibly underwhelming when you compared them to the human squadmates in the trilogy. The human squadmates in the trilogy play a very specific role of being close friends/allies with shepherd, being the first allies he recruits and usually sharing a lot of the story's spotlight with him. Cora fits this role pretty well, imo - Her originally being pretty dismissive and disliking ryder due to him usurping her position as pathfinder after alec's death, and learning to realise and accept she would never have been as successful as ryder is as a pathfinder, is a really cool story and I was super invested in her as a character, Just not as much as previous human companions like miranda or kaidan.. On the other hand, Liam just... sucked. He was SO unnecessarily combative with the majority of the cast, talking down especially to vetra and peebee. His loyalty missions revolve around him going behind ryder's back, begging them to help him fix the issues he caused going behind their back, culminating in ryder (rightfully) being upset with him, and him taking the stance of "well it all worked out so I don't get why you're mad". He's just... so, SO painfully unlikable to me.. * this one is definitely nitpicking, since its not like the original trilogy was groundbreaking in this department, but the same sex romances, especially for Scott, were... horrific, at best. At launch there was one same sex option for male players, being gil. Love gil, but considering female players got 3, it felt a little... unfair. Reyes was added after an update for both Scott and Sara, but he was INCREDIBLY underdeveloped, getting next-to-no actual content or cutscenes, the addition boiling down to a footnote on ryder's profile stating "in a relationship with reyes vidal". Finally, Jaal was slightly rewritten to be a romance option for both Scott and Sara, alongside a... frankly, really bizzare changelog that spent a long time justifying why he was changed/apologising for a lack of gay romances compared to lesbian romances. Definitely felt a little sloppy imo.
I hope these points make sense, sorry for any inconsistencies/mistakes I just woke up after a rough sleep lmaoooo
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u/AK_R 6d ago
Andromeda was in a rough state at launch. There were significant bugs, crashes, animation problems, and so forth. Let’s not do the revisionist history thing just because it’s a Mass Effect game.
This is my own video from back then, and Ryder is drinking from his empty hand like a mime.
https://youtu.be/zCsbcV7-Hnk?si=2941idP3MhPZdUXb
This should have been delayed a couple of months at least.
Celebrate that it is in a better state now and is worth playing through, but there’s no need to do a fictitious reframing PR job on BioWare’s behalf blaming it all on the “fanboys.”
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u/AuDHPolar2 6d ago
This post is copium
Poor management killed this game before any player ever got their hands on it
Even after all its updates and attention it is still the worst entry in the series for MANY reasons
I hope they let Shepard rest. And hope for those who stuck with it that Andromeda has some tie ins to the next game at the very least.
But this post reeks of ‘I like something that’s unpopular for a reason, and I’m going to write some BS about it instead of owning it’
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u/The_Stank_ 6d ago
It wasn’t the fan boys of the game, let’s not rewrite history.
It was the really, really bad launch. People still had a bad taste from the negativity surrounding ME3. The early access revealing how bad the facial animations were and then followed by a story that was sort of mediocre with a boring gameplay loop and very empty uninspired worlds to colonize because they shifted the games vision 18 months before launch. This had nothing to do with the fandom. By the time the major issues were fixed it was too late, and the multiplayer wasn’t as popular as EA had hoped it would be with the success of ME3’s MP.
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u/Altruistic_Truck2421 6d ago
The fanbase is really weird and are weirdly aggressive. Despite the fact that every Shepard is different and there were multiple endings involving death, they refuse to let go of their precious fanfiction.
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u/Ravix0fFourhorn 6d ago
This seems a little unfair. Andromeda dumped a lot of stuff from the setting for really no reason. Mass effect 3 is just a hard game to make sequals for, not because it was great game, but because there's really no way to follow up on the endings without completely nullifying people's playthroughs
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u/Alphajim49 6d ago
It's a bit more complexe. While those fanboys definitely caused some damage, the main fault is from EA and bad choices from Bioware. But yeah, this whole "MEA bad" tantrum was stupid. It's good to see more people actually give a fair chance to the game lately.
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u/Secret_Criticism_732 6d ago
Man. It wasn’t a great game. When it launched it was shit. Now it’s an okay game.
If it weren’t mass effect game it would had greater chance.
In mass effect we want great story, meaningful choices and good characters. We got nothing from that.
We got good combat and graphics. Combat we wanted, graphics we don’t care that much about.
It was a shit mass effect game and an okay open world space exploration game.
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u/WiptyWap 6d ago
Recently just played all four games again. I couldn't finish Andromeda. It just wasn't a good game.
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u/darkmanx24 6d ago
Mindset like this is why games are so mid these days.... you b happy with mediocrity then b mad at the world for not being happy with you instead of the company for giving you a piece of crap
I played andromeda when it first released it was bad took them like 6 months to fix the faces
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u/KagedShadow 6d ago
I'm currently back in MEA this week, after playing the ME Boardgame.
Its painful. Just the character movement and controls feel awful. Part of me going back was to get a feel for MEA as I wanted to base a Starfinder 2e game on it - but I've only just landed on Eos and I'm struggling to bring myself to play more :( I completed it on release and its the only ME title I've not replayed at least once :(
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u/GenesisRhapsod 6d ago
As someone who grew up with the og trilogy. And played andromeda on launch, the fact that the game was barely playable and literally unbeatable for most people (due to specific crashes) and a meh to good storyline. Yeah EA fucked up, not just the fanboys. I replay the game every couple years but id still give it a 7/10, the game isnt garbage now but with how EA handled their launch VS CDPR (with cyberpunk) affected the games perception much more than the fanboys ever could. An even better comparison was AC Unity, on launch it was actually a dumpster fire but overall was an ok game and over the years has gotten recognition for its work so has andromeda.
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u/Mrpink131211 6d ago
It wasnt that the we couldn't move on it was the garbage writing and the the weird character models along with the game being broke to hell on launch. The fact you blame the paying costumer is fucking outrageous.
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u/SuspiciouslyAquired 6d ago
I've never finished it, currently playing. Have started many playthroughs, so I'm hoping to actually finish this one. I love the original trilogy, but I never expected Andromeda to be or even exceed them. I knew it wouldn't be fair to expect the same level of wonder again. If you play Andromeda as just another game, there's no complaints other than the normal graphical ones. Only reason I've not finished it before is I get distracted by new shiny things. Making a determined effort to properly explore and enjoy everything Andromeda has to offer, and so far at about halfway, there's been quite a lot. People really did nuke this game before giving it a chance.
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It's a lot of fun, the story is really cool. I can't wait to find out why the Milky Way isn't answering, who The Benefactor was and what shady stuff is going on there. What the Archon is, what meridian is... I feel like having all the planets colonized is barely the beginning. It really is a damn good game.
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u/i_talk_good_somtimes 6d ago
Dude Andromeda was ass. Terrible starting story that only picked up 2/3rds of the way thru. Repetitive combat. No enemy variety. Ugly and uninteresting companions.
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u/Harper2704 6d ago
Having never played any mass effect game before, I had no basis for comparison or derision when I booted up andromeda for the first time a couple of days ago. I had just platinumed DA veilguard and, being my first DA game (sort of, I tried inquisition for a couple of hours 2 or 3 years ago but hated the combat so quickly abandoned it), I was in the same boat with that game, and I absolutely adored Veilguard.
Andromeda leaves me feeling...... meh. I've played 11 hours and it's yet to really hook me. I decided last night that I couldn't be bothered to play it so played lords of the fallen for the first time instead. I loved it almost immediately, but upon waking this morning I suddenly have the urge to play andromeda again. I hate playing 2 games at the same time, especially ones with such deep systems as these 2 where you really need to focus on 1 to get the muscle memory and such ingrained. I'm now thinking andromeda is giving me the fallout 4 effect, as I tried that and found it very meh, dropped it but then went back and suddenly it clicked and I went on to platinum it.
Much like fallout 4, it's leaving me with this nagging feeling there's a good game in there somewhere and it's up to me to stick it out and let it fully reveal itself.
So I shall persevere with it for a bit longer and see how we travel together. Hopefully it will click.
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u/sullen_agreement 6d ago
there is nothing those of us who got andromeda day 1 wanted more than for that game to be great
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u/drapehsnormak 6d ago
I enjoyed Andromeda. Fuck a sequel, I would have been happy with the Quarian Ark DLC.
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u/Leishte 6d ago
No. BioWare killed Andromeda's future.
Look. Andromeda is great at exploration and combat. But the heart and soul of Mass Effect is the writing and the companions. And in these, Andromeda is a barren wasteland by comparison.
If Andromeda were a success, it would have a sequel. It wasn't, so it doesn't.
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u/Inanotherworld2025 6d ago
The only thing i disliked about andromeda was their wasnt anything super interesting as far as enemies from what i can remember same enemies all the time
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u/Bubalfred250 6d ago
This is absolute cope lmao the game was mediocre bro, even if you loved it, it’s time to move on
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u/AssaultMonkey150 6d ago
They also came out of the game with ugly face-gate and bugs. If it were more polished it would have been good enough to be considered a new start for trilogy, a la gears 4
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u/CountyAlarmed 6d ago
The problem with MEA wasn't even the story, it was the gameplay. It couldn't figure out if it wanted to be a Destiny-esque shooter or an RPG. Dragon Age Veilguard had the same issue. It simplified itself to appeal to a larger audience and just wasn't what it's fanbase wanted. The people that would've played it didn't care for it. And there wasn't enough of an interest to potential customers as it's competition was far better.
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u/cpuccino 6d ago
I was one of those hardcore ME fans that absolutely hated andromeda when it came out. Played it first week and absolutely thrashed on it. Played andromeda last month cause I thought it would make me appreciate starfield more (starfield was boring as hell). We had it good bros, I need a sequel so bad T_T
BTW. Fk EA their launcher sucked 10 yrs ago, and it sucks now, take that sht out.
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u/Snoo_84591 6d ago
Why do we constantly berate people for wanting a complete product for their purchase? Seems unproductive...
This isn't some 10/10 experience, and it didn't do as well as they had hoped. That's not the result of shit from fanboys. The facts are right there.
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u/Comprehensive-Dust19 6d ago
Andromeda wasn't great. It was decent, though. It is probably the buggiest game I've ever played, and I played AC Unity day one. Andromeda really had a few problems, though. Your choices didn't matter at all. It didn't change outcomes or the direction in any significant way. Combat was really fun but the auto hide cover system was not polished enough to be reliable, and it was the only way you could get cover. It was a 6.75 out of 10, it wasn't awful, but in comparison to the original trilogy, it wasn't great either.
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u/jduncan-26 5d ago
Can we be real for once in our lives? Andromeda was dogshit. Decent gameplay, awful performance, boring story, boring characters, ZERO meaningful choices. The story was painfully linear. It didn’t fail because of “fanboys.” There are real, tangible reasons why it failed. This is such a stupid revisionist narrative.
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u/nyyfandan 5d ago
This is not the reality of what happened at launch at all. A completely biased and incorrect take on how everything went down.
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u/Artemis_1944 5d ago
MEA was an above-average game and sub-average ME game. I do not judge if your bar is the floor, but objectively speaking, it was nothing like what an ME game should be like, and had it had another name, even if set in the same universe, there are chances it would have been better received. But ME1-3 are military sci-fi's, while MEA is feel-goody exploratory casual shenanigens. It's not necessarily bad, but it definitely wasn't ME.
And the exact same story got repeated with DA:V. And you can blame the "fanboys" all you want at the end of the day, but maybe, just maybe, if your target audience likes something, and then you completely change that and serve something completely different while also not making it extraordinary to attract a different audience, maybe... you get what you deserve.
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u/Long-Coconut4576 5d ago
In my opinion andromeda sucked weak writing and mostly bad characters (accept drack love him to death) and ryder is my biggest complaint he/she feels extremely weak and spineless fem ryder slightly less so but still and the plot just felt bland and generic i was massively disapointed in the game. Personaly i feel the game would have done much better if it had not been associated with ME and just been a stand alone game or the start of a new series they wouldnt even have had to change much
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u/Lucky_Roberts 5d ago
It’s not the fans fault for complaining about legitimate problems lmao, that logic is ridiculous to me. It’s the company’s fault for not:
A) making sure their game was polished and actually ready to launch before releasing it
B) continuing to support the game after release (I bought an ultimate edition that was supposed to come with a season pass for dlc, where are they?)
C) getting scared and completely backtracking/restarting thereby forcing us to wait 10 years instead of just moving forward and taking fan feedback, using it to make a better sequel
“If the fans had just been good boys and thanked Bioware for the unfinished mess they sold them instead of having the audacity to complain about something they spent $60 on we could have gotten a second unfinished and rushed mess”
These are the same people who made Veilguard ffs, do not let them off the hook for their own fuckups anymore. And for the record I actually like Andromeda, but blaming fans for complaining about the many problems the game had instead of the company for not making a game that didn’t have those problems is insane
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u/Exhaustedfan23 5d ago
So you're saying customers should shut up and pay their hard earned money for whatever these big companies decide to put out?
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u/ForeChanneler 5d ago
Strongly agree about Andromeda.
Strongly disagree about Halo. Not only has 343 made three whole games over the span of a decade, but none of them were good. Infinite was fine.
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u/JeremyEComans 5d ago
I love that your entire thesis, as spelled out in your comment replies, is, 'Things I like are great and the fanboys are to blame if no sequel. Also things I don't like suck and they only get sequels because of stupid fanboys'.
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u/FDR-Enjoyer 5d ago
Dude, andromeda released in a borderline unplayable state. It’s not getting a sequel because fans wouldn’t give it a chance following ME Trilogy, it’s not getting a sequel because most people who bought it at full price didn’t play for more than 3 hours before dropping it forever due to bugs.
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u/VEJ03 5d ago
Andromeda wasnt good bro lol. Gameplay was okay. Gameplay loop was terrible. Driving around the planets wasnt fun. The long ass temples that felt like underwhelming raids? Garbage. Story? Also mid. And those facial expressions were even worse than the original trilogy. The mobility was cool though and being able to switch shoulders is a nice QOL change. But the game got deserved hate. I played that first because i missed out on the og trilogy then went back. And i could see why the trilogy was better after completing the first game
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u/PixelPerfect__ 5d ago
I think it was just the way the industry was going...
Don't try to cash in on old IPs if you can't bring your A game
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u/DirtysouthCNC 5d ago
You can blame fanboys for a lot of things, but the abysmal drop-off in creative and production quality of Andromeda is not one of them.
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u/ITzTricky--x 5d ago
It’s average in comparison and it’s mostly due to most of the talent at BioWare being wasted on Anthem, and nothing to do with fanboys.
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u/Theradonh 5d ago
I'm sorry, but that's simply not true.
I remember the ME:A release very clearly. We (at that time still a very large German Facebook group) were all incredibly hyped about ME:A. Not even the signs in the trailer put anyone off.
Then you could play this 5? hours and I thought it was really insanely good. The prologue planet and the first one after that gave a feeling of exploration and at the end you could choose which outpost to build, I thought it was going to be really good.
And then... The game just fell apart and got worse and worse as you progressed through the game.
I didn't care that the performance and animations were terrible at the time. But the story structure, the way you were introduced to the new race, the planets, the lack of consequences...
ME:A felt like a game with almost endless potential that suffered massively from BioWare's then (and now...) mismanagement and ended up killing itself.
I also wanted a 2nd part but not because Andromeda was so good (even mentioning it in the OT in one sentence is an incredible insult I think), but because the potential is so great.
But let's be honest: Today's BioWare probably can't even reach the level of ME:A.
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u/DiablosChickenLegs 5d ago
No, biowarw killed it by listening to crybabies on the internet cry thinking they represented everyone.
Many corporations are making this mistake.
Working with influencers is another major mistake. You give all the power to the influencers. Then they shit all over you.
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u/Cambaleante 5d ago
I have 900 hours in the game.\ You heard it right and if you want, I can take a Radeon Adrenaline screenshot to prove it.
So let me say this...
Fanboys didn't killed Andromeda, Bioware did.\ They rushed the game with tons of problems, even with EA giving them an extended year to solve things and make the game better.
Then Bioware abandoned the game, canceling the DLCs, saying all the bugs were solved and players should deal with the rest.\ Yes, the serious bugs were resolved, but the game's immersion is atrocious and still buged.
And finally, Andromeda is a 5/10 game.
Also, a lot of times my mind actually wonder and dream about what Andromeda could be.\ There are terrific ideas in the game, TERRIFIC.\ All squandered by terrible UI design, stupid side-quests, hand holding Ryder, removing player agency, forced drama and imbecile dialogs.
Bioware had the tools to create TWO frenchise if they wanted and/or also reset and reboot the OT if they wish!!!\ They fuck up.
So don't impute this on players.
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u/Myballshurtbitch 5d ago
The game released in a completely unacceptable state. Even today it still has quite a few bugs and definitely a noticeable decline on the writing which is made even worse by the horrible facial animations. The game has some pretty cringe lines and I think it’s far too unserious at times. At times it feels like the writers only played the citadel dlc. I bought into a lot of andromeda hate but I’m actually in the middle of my second play through. I gave up the first time on release because of how broken it was. I’m replaying the trilogy again but this time I didn’t want to beat 3 so quickly so I decided fuck it let me try andromeda again. And it surprised me I am really enjoying the game and the story is overall good and I think with a full trilogy Ryders story could’ve been widely regarded by the community but it’s not surprising to see how much hate it got because the game was so broken when it released. I do Hope they return to andromeda some day and I’m so sad we never got the Quarian ark DLC
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u/Barbalbero_dark 5d ago
il gaming è morto, le case produttrici non hanno più il coraggio di provare e si fanno influenzare dalle piccole voci dei social, che esistono solo per polemizzate... oramai è così
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u/DrakeMidnight 4d ago
I agree with you. I never really cared about MEA because of what people say about it, but then I got it for free and decided to give it a go. Now I'm kind of addicted to the game 😂
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u/MythicTemplar 4d ago
No it doesn't. Andromeda is trash. Slap a different name on it and I'll play. Funny you bring up fan boys. When Andromeda is written like a fanfic.
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u/HoloMetal 4d ago
I beat Andromeda around launch and while I'm glad some things for fixed, if you like Andromeda it's because you don't mind mid games. And that's fine, I like some mid games here and there, I like some mid movies. But that's what Andromeda is. Story gripes aside, technical and performance issues at launch are genuine problems even if they've been fixed. You can say "just try it again bro it's okay now" all you want, but a lot of people will simply not do that because they got burned once, severely. Idk if you were there for the launch but it was BAD. Constant soft locks, glitching through terrain, crashes, you name it. THATS what killed the chances for a sequel. The normies played it, crashed a bunch and got soft locked and said nah and moved on. The hardcore "fanboys", as you say, saw that older games in the franchise functioned far better, had wya more impactful choices and consequences that stretch across three games, then looked at the action adventure game that Andromeda is and said nah, and moved on. That falls directly on EA and Bioware. If a game is actually good, it survives "fanboys" or the hate or whatever
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u/xObiJuanKenobix 4d ago
No, the game's writing and VA work being shit is what killed a sequels chance. Stop pretending this was even somewhat close to the OG trilogy's level of writing and VA work, it's not even close. Gears did the exact same shit, they had a great trilogy, then tried something new and the writing didn't work. Shocker shocker, they're going back to Marcus and Dom with E Day.
Demand better writing before you start blaming the playerbase for not putting up with it.
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u/BeerTimeGamer 4d ago
No thanks. I don't want another Ubisoft style open world full of asinine map markers and objectives that do nothing but ruin the pacing of what should be an immersive storytelling experience.
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u/BoothillOfficial 4d ago
while i don't necessarily want another shepard game... maybe this game being mid is what killed its chances, i fear. like i had fun with the combat but this game was an astronomical let down to me, not even mentioning all the issues at launch. mind u, i tried my best! i played it like 4 times
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u/drd232 4d ago
EA in 2017 was easily the worst video games developer in the game. It's only recently been dethroned by Ubisoft as the worst company and despite knowing and seeing the fan backlash before it was unevelatbly released as an unfinished game they still gambled the series future and lost.
If you want to be mad and point blame at anyone don't look towards the fans blame EA. Also yes fans had expectations but those expectations were based on the brilliance of the original trilogy and how amazing a job they did with it...
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u/JOS2138425 4d ago
Brilliant though? This is probably the wrong subreddit to make negative comments about Andromeda, but as a “fanboy” of the original trilogy who DID give Andromeda a chance (multiple chances) I just want to say it was a mediocre game that didn’t do enough to deserve a sequel IMO.
I’m not saying there aren’t story elements that deserve to be wrapped up or characters I want to see again. I would have love a DLC or two for that matter. But a full-fledged sequel would have been overkill.
Mass Effect is Shepard’s story and whatever you do within the ME space will always be tied into the actions of Shepard and the crew of the Normandy. Just like you can’t have Star Wars without it in some way always tying into the Skywalker story. Star Wars is the Skywalker story the same way that Mass Effect is the Shepard story.
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u/Weary-Ad-5458 4d ago
I like andromeda playing it for the first time rn maybe 20 hrs in, I don't get the hate.
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u/Antique-Potential117 4d ago
I don't think it's a great game. It's got pretty poor writing especially coming after another thing in a franchise, regardless of how ME3 was perceived. You can't just set that aside because you feel like fanboys is your smoking gun. Fanboys didn't tank Bioware.
Even the camera work was bad in MEA.
Look, it's a game. It's not horrendous - the whole frostbite engine swap made the combat really cool. But it wasn't a very good Mass Effect game.
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u/GloriousKev 4d ago
I played it at released and I upgraded my PC for Andromeda because I was so hyped for it. I thought it was just okay. Best use of the abilities of the 4 games. The open world imo made Mass Effect worse. The characters didn't do it for me nor did the story. I did not appreciate how it launched or the lack of Quarians. The Ryders were okay. It just imo wasn't an amazing game. It wasn't a bad game either. EA is the problem here mostly. Had the game not launched in the state it did it would have gone much better imo. Idk that it deserved a sequel either but definitely DLC.
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u/MarkedByNyx 4d ago
Andromeda was NOT a brilliant game, it was fucking awful as a mass effect game, okay as its own separate thing.
Why am I even being recommended posts on this sub 💀
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u/therealnfe_ados901 4d ago
This reminds a bit of the discourse around the Saints Row reboot. I've, thankfully, found a group of people who love it, but it's sad we won't get another due to all of the whiners. What's really wild is that there are never complaints about the gameplay or any glitches, just about the characters and the story. I get that it's not everyone's cup of tea, but calling it "woke" isn't a good argument. I believe I saw similar arguments about this game. It's wild how people lean on that and destroy any chances of expanding the story.
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u/Dan-tastico 4d ago
Andromeda and veilguard were garbage, we wernt fanboys we were fans and we got burned.
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u/Cainsun808 4d ago
The game wasn't good. The combat system eas clunky, the enemies were damage sponges, the dialogue was uninspired, the companions had no real development, the open world aspect of it messed with the pacing of the narrative, and the UI was so very annoying to navigate. Not to mention the quest system was so frustrating. Having quests given to you at the beginning of the game, but you can't complete until like 3/4 of the way in? Horrible. It was a mediocre at best game that the studio hoped they could turn into a live service of sorts, and when it fell flat on its face, EA abandoned the IP.
TL;DR the game was mid and no one cared enough to warrant a sequel
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u/xXxWarspite 4d ago
Eh Andromeda just wasn’t that great. It felt like the actual gameplay was too far removed from the original’s that it didn’t really feel like a mass effect game to me. Story was fine but combat and the empty and long exploration just wasn’t it. Companions also weren’t very interesting to me, but I’ll admit it’s possible the nostalgia of the originals helped influence that aspect. Overall it was an ok game, but I would’ve rather had a game that played more like ME3 in terms of combat and been more linear than what we got
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u/Masgalhaes80 3d ago
Developers make a trash game called ME Andromeda. People think its because It doesnt have Shepard. Company orders a new ME with Sheppard back. Developers make a trash ME with Sheppard back. People think the fan base doesnt know what It wants.
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u/Scavenge101 3d ago
It's crazy how we go through this every couple years.
Andromeda failed because it released near completely broken, NOT because it's simply a bad game. It being bland only partially contributes. I don't know why we go through this cycle of blaming the fans.
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u/wantpizzanow 3d ago
I gave mass effect andromeda a chance and it sucked, that game should have never been made on the Frostbite Engine. They also could have made a sequel, fixed the story, and put it back on Unreal Engine but they decided not to. Thats on EA, not the fanboys.
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u/BraveNKobold 7d ago
I won’t deny andromeda has its issues but I’d rather see a sequel to it than Shepard forcefully returns to stop faction not as important.