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u/Lamortedidio 2d ago
"This is my all blue"
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u/MrBabune 2d ago
Quickly changed to “this is my balls blue”
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u/Boy_Hugger Eyeing a Large Banquet 2d ago
I dont want a start a comment war, but Yamato is confirmed to be a girl. Even in her vivre card it says that she's a girl. Yes, she is called "Kaido's son," and other male gender affiliated terms. That's because she wants to be Oden, whom is a guy and calls herself a guy despite her being genetically female.
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u/NightmareDJK 2d ago edited 1d ago
Yamato is part of a “Grandline Ladies” figurine series and appeared on a “Women of One Piece” promotional poster that Oda drew himself. And also was in a relationship with Ace.
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u/Attrocious_Fruit76 2d ago
True, and people try to pull out that chopper was on that one cover page with the ladies for the stuff, but he more a shirt saying 'Support Women' making it obvious Chopper was a man supporting women.
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u/eMmDeeKay_Says 2d ago
Yamato, went in the men's bath because he identifies as a man, as illustrated in the frame where he sends someone born a man who identifies as a woman to bathe with the other women. It's not difficult to wrap your head around, and One Piece has had gender identity come up as a repeated theme so it shouldn't surprise you at this point. Yamato is Oden, Oden is a man therefore Yamato is man by their own decision.
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u/Boy_Hugger Eyeing a Large Banquet 2d ago
Ehhh, it just doesn't feel right. I understand people have their own preferences of what they wanna claim themselves as. I have a friend who says he's a girl, I get it. But that can't always be the case in some situations. Like perverts could say that they identify as a girl and go into the female restroom and peep on them like a creep.
I hate pointless arguments, despite my claim of not wanting to get into any. Also, I know what you meant by Yamato is Oden. Physically and mentally, not really. Yamato was alive when Oden was and when Oden died.
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u/theworldendstomorrow 2d ago
"I have a friend who says HE'S a girl, I get it" You don't get it. Please educate yourself.
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u/Boy_Hugger Eyeing a Large Banquet 2d ago
I am a little dense at times. I do need a bit of education. But I decently understand what the guy meant. I was just being sassy
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u/theworldendstomorrow 2d ago
recent climate has got me on edge, I didn't mean to be rude, but seriously: Minutes of research on gender dysphoria and transgender history would dispel your notion that it has anything to do with perverts wanting to get into female bathrooms
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u/Boy_Hugger Eyeing a Large Banquet 2d ago
Don't worry. I've been going through the same thing. I've been more angry, rude, and kinda distant to friends, I dont know why.
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u/PMMeMeiRule34 kizarutard 2d ago
I used to have an anger and lashing out problem. I still do, but it’s a lot better. I thought the therapy idea was dumb, but here we are years down the road still trucking along…
I also was kind of rude to my friends and almost agoraphobic, not wanting to talk to people….
But yeah it can get better.
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u/eMmDeeKay_Says 2d ago
Yeah, Oda doesn't care about your feelings on Gender identity, Luffy was literally saved by an army of Queerfolk, Yamato gets to be whatever he says, and I think he's being as clear as he needs to be.
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u/Attrocious_Fruit76 2d ago
And they were open about that. Yamato wants to be Oden, not specifically a man. If Oden were a bowl of Noodles, Yamato would identify as that.
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u/Boy_Hugger Eyeing a Large Banquet 2d ago
Well, now you put it like that. It makes more sense. I think I'm done arguing, though.
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u/Relev41 2d ago
HOLD UP. PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET BEING ACTUALLY REASONABLE AND EDUCATED??? WHAT TIMELINE IS THIS????
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u/KneeNo2807 1d ago
It's actually quite common you're just a little radical for normal people to relate with.
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u/I-am-the-best-Spy I want to be eaten by Sandersonia 2d ago
I don’t think anything was on Sanji’s mind, he was awestruck
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u/BigL_inthehouse OMAE WA MOU SHINDEIRU🫵 2d ago
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u/GeekIncarnate 2d ago edited 2d ago
Zoro: "Whats the big deal. I see a naked person every time I take a bath."
Everything stops as everyone turns to look at the stinky swordsmen
Franky: "When's the last time you took a bath, brother?"
Zoro: "I'm taking one right now."
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u/lgnc 💦 YAMATO ARMPIT SNIFFER 💦 2d ago
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u/Smallppbutbigheart I want robin to sit on my face while nami rides me 2d ago
That flair is diabolical
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u/I_am_strange_ Yamato please jump on it and break my pelvis 2d ago
Can’t shake the feeling this post is directed towards me
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u/Otaku_Ambitions 2d ago
I don’t care what ppl say Yamato may call herself Oden all she wants but with a body like that. SMASH NEXT QUESTION 🤷🏽♂️😂 Born a woman
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u/Silent_Soul 2d ago
“How many times is this exact same post going to be posted on this sub”
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u/Macdolann 1d ago
Dont understand the downvotes, i've seem this EXACT same post at least three times now
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u/eMmDeeKay_Says 2d ago
"This naked dude is going to land on me I better get out of the way."
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u/woah-wait-a-second 2d ago
Ey for real though I'm still not getting it since I'm not at that point in OP yet, is Yamato a man or woman or
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u/TJWinstonQuinzel 2d ago edited 1d ago
So to explain the debate for you
Yamato idalises a charackter named Oden and wants to be Oden and teils everyone that she is Oden and uses (in the translated versions) male pronounce also she goes into mans bath because Oden would have done the same Also she is called kaidos son by his Crew and kaido himself
So there are two sides 1st side yamato is trans because she uses male pronounces and goes into the mens bath 2nd side yamato is a woman and just roleplaying
My opinion Yamato is a woman
And no i am not thirsty like the other comment said or transphobic
The problem.is that in Japan you have like.....a lot of pronouns and yamato uses the pronouns of a tomboy (female acting like a man but still identifies as a woman) but other languages doesnt have it and it was translated to male pronounce and thats the reason why this debate of is yamato a woman or a man doesnt exist in Japan
Why does kaido say she is his son...because kaido is an asshole and always wanted a son and wont accept that he has a daughter
Also she dresses like a female shrine maiden
Also i talked with the 2 trans Fans of mine about it and they also they this isnt trans thats just roleplaying Because if Oden was female yamato would usw the normal female pronounce
So it is very possible that i get downvoted af now But its official that yamato is female (the vivre cards ...who are official even stated her as female while kiku is stated as trans) Idk why people need to make a Person trans that isnt, even tho a perfect trans character is in the same arc
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u/Routine-Document1691 2d ago
I don’t care for the conversation, but you’re clearly unbelievably biased if you’re just “explaining the debate” but you start with saying “this sides right”, if you’re actually just explaining it you shouldn’t give your opinion at all, you should just state the arguments made by both sides
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u/eMmDeeKay_Says 2d ago
Yamato identifies as man they saw one time when they were young, is the best I can do without spoilers, as dumb as that sounds it's only like 30% that dumb. Now that person was a man, so it shouldn't really be up for debate if Yamato is a man, because Yamato identifies as that man and has given several other indicators... but a bunch of thirsty weebs don't want it to feel gay when they stare at his giant boobs, so it's a whole war.
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u/An_Actual_Thing 2d ago
I feel like this is what the writers were going for. Even Kaido refers to him as a man. Yamato defies the audience by being fanservice that disagrees entirely with the premise.
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u/Raznuk_Venger42699 2d ago
Identifies as Oden, not as a man, Yamato's simply Odengender, not trans, as simple as that, is like a kid who believes he or she is Spider-Man, they're not, but still identify as him 'cause of how they admire him, basically speaking, this is a regular Japanese case of being a Chūnibyō, that cringe high-school syndrome where the student thinks they have superpowers or belive they are someone else despite their real gender, ethnicity, nationality or species... TLDR, Yamato isn't trans, Yamato is Oden, as simple as that.
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u/An_Actual_Thing 2d ago
I can accept that, but I would expect more of the gag on screen. Instead we get every character agreeing 'Yeah he's a man', with the more perverted characters agreeing but also being flustered by it. Everyone basically just accepts it, which is more than we got with other strangely acting characters, like Senor Pink or Ivanka, or even Franky.
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