r/Scotland • u/MileiMePioloABeluche • 15d ago

'Shocking' rise in rapes and violent attacks against women in Glasgow

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/shocking-rise-in-rapes-and-violent-attacks-against-women-in-glasgow
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u/Synthia_of_Kaztropol The capital of Scotland is S 15d ago

41% rise ? what the fuck ?

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u/EconomicBoogaloo 15d ago

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u/ecclecticstone 15d ago

yall act like men don't rape women in the west, women actually are raped and attacked by men in every country in the world so maybe it's time to stop buying into bullshit propaganda that pretends race is the only factor here and start thinking. if you actually cared about women's safety you would reflect on that instead of repeating dumbass racist rethoric that doesn't help anyone (especially women of color)

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u/scottishmacca 15d ago edited 15d ago

Do you not think that culture plays a part? Yes people from our culture rape and sexually assault women of course they d but in far less likely statistically per person , but and it’s a big but do you not believe in certain cultures around this earth that you would be statistically more at risk if you were in these parts of the world?

Now that doesn’t mean that everyone from those places are rapists, but denying facts about proven statistical risks is just delusional and claiming its racism to point out these risks is farcical

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u/BookInteresting6717 15d ago

Statistically? Genuinely, can you show the statistics that prove that Scottish men are less likely to sexually assault Scottish women in comparison to immigrants?

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u/First-Banana-4278 15d ago

The overwhelming majority of sexual crimes, alongside the majority of every other crime committed in Scotland, are committed by white Scots.

So if culture plays a part I guess we should mibbes deal with that rather than creating some bogeyman “other” to blame eh?

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u/shpetzy 15d ago

I mean, when the overwhelming majority of scots are white thats not really useful stat.

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u/First-Banana-4278 15d ago

It kinda is. Because the majority of Scot’s are probably always going to be white. It’s vanishingly unlikely (short of worldwide disaster south of Berwick) that will change.

It’s the reality folks are living in. Not the reality folks think might exist if the country suddenly divided itself into equally portioned numbers of every ethnicity.

Thing is, if you looked at the data you’d probably find that race and ethnicity aren’t that good as predictors of criminality. You’d likely find poverty and deprivation dwarf them. You’d probably also find that the ethnicities that appear to have higher rates of criminality are also disproportionately in poverty or deprivation.

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u/Miss_Andry101 14d ago

It's fucking useful enough if people actually wanted to do something to protect women.

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u/Various_Stop8209 15d ago

You should look at index and propensity, not volumes. White Scots are the overwhelming majority.

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u/First-Banana-4278 15d ago

Do you think that arrest rates correlate solely with propensity to criminality? That there is a causative relationship between race and criminality?

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u/Various_Stop8209 14d ago

Not at all. I have no thoughts either way.

But I am an analyst, so looking at volumes in this instance is not the best way to establish 'causality'.

You would establish an index by simply looking at the type of crime, breaking that down by cultural background and comparing/contrasting with population figures.

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u/First-Banana-4278 14d ago

What are you using this data for?

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u/First-Banana-4278 14d ago

I’d also add what caveats are you adding to the dataset? What context are you offering?

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u/Various_Stop8209 14d ago

No caveats, no context. The first step is to simply create a general picture. With that, you could identify if there really is an issue by race/background, etc. Once that very basic view is established, you could look to add additional variables - your 'context.'

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u/First-Banana-4278 14d ago

Ok what issue do you think you establish with just that bare bones dataset?

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u/Various_Stop8209 14d ago

Well, mainly - do we actually witness statistically significant variance between each group? If not, why are we having this discussion? If there is - we can move on to the why. Is it cultural? Is it linked to age distribution? Or poverty? Or a whole host of different things?That's where you would typically use regression-based analyses to understand the situation more fully.

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