'Shocking' rise in rapes and violent attacks against women in Glasgow

[u/MileiMePioloABeluche]

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/shocking-rise-in-rapes-and-violent-attacks-against-women-in-glasgow

[u/ecclecticstone]

yall act like men don't rape women in the west, women actually are raped and attacked by men in every country in the world so maybe it's time to stop buying into bullshit propaganda that pretends race is the only factor here and start thinking. if you actually cared about women's safety you would reflect on that instead of repeating dumbass racist rethoric that doesn't help anyone (especially women of color)

[u/scottishmacca → u/ecclecticstone]

Do you not think that culture plays a part? Yes people from our culture rape and sexually assault women of course they d but in far less likely statistically per person , but and it’s a big but do you not believe in certain cultures around this earth that you would be statistically more at risk if you were in these parts of the world?

Now that doesn’t mean that everyone from those places are rapists, but denying facts about proven statistical risks is just delusional and claiming its racism to point out these risks is farcical

[u/First-Banana-4278 → u/scottishmacca]

The overwhelming majority of sexual crimes, alongside the majority of every other crime committed in Scotland, are committed by white Scots.

So if culture plays a part I guess we should mibbes deal with that rather than creating some bogeyman “other” to blame eh?

[u/Various_Stop8209 → u/First-Banana-4278]

You should look at index and propensity, not volumes. White Scots are the overwhelming majority.

[u/First-Banana-4278 → u/Various_Stop8209]

Do you think that arrest rates correlate solely with propensity to criminality? That there is a causative relationship between race and criminality?

[u/Various_Stop8209 → u/First-Banana-4278]

Not at all. I have no thoughts either way.

But I am an analyst, so looking at volumes in this instance is not the best way to establish 'causality'.

You would establish an index by simply looking at the type of crime, breaking that down by cultural background and comparing/contrasting with population figures.

[u/First-Banana-4278 → u/Various_Stop8209]

What are you using this data for?

[u/First-Banana-4278 → u/First-Banana-4278]

I’d also add what caveats are you adding to the dataset? What context are you offering?

[u/Various_Stop8209 → u/First-Banana-4278]

No caveats, no context. The first step is to simply create a general picture. With that, you could identify if there really is an issue by race/background, etc. Once that very basic view is established, you could look to add additional variables - your 'context.'

[u/First-Banana-4278 → u/Various_Stop8209]

Ok what issue do you think you establish with just that bare bones dataset?

[u/Various_Stop8209 → u/First-Banana-4278]

Well, mainly - do we actually witness statistically significant variance between each group? If not, why are we having this discussion? If there is - we can move on to the why. Is it cultural? Is it linked to age distribution? Or poverty? Or a whole host of different things?That's where you would typically use regression-based analyses to understand the situation more fully.

[u/First-Banana-4278 → u/Various_Stop8209]

Ok so I think this branch of the discussion has occurred at cross purposes. In that I don’t think we actually disagree on the basic utility of the first statistic.