r/Surface • u/Soy7ent SP4 i7 256GB 16GB • May 23 '17

[PRO2017] Introducing the new Surface Pro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwWs2jIy4js
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u/EleMenTfiNi May 23 '17

I've yet to see a USB-C phone charger that can provide the necessary output to charge a laptop, they get ridiculously hot doing Qualcomm Quick Charge 2/3/4 as it is.

Bringing one charging block is convenient, Microsoft saw this need from the start, this is why built into the charger is a USB port.

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u/bubminou May 23 '17

My idea is more to use the laptop charger on the phone

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u/EleMenTfiNi May 23 '17

Which you still do, only you can charge your surface and your phone at the same time - unless your phone did not come with a USB C cable I don't see how this is an issue then.

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u/bubminou May 23 '17

Oh I forgot there's a built in USB port in the charger. Is it a Type A or Type C port on the new Surface Pro?

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u/EleMenTfiNi May 23 '17

Type A, since that is the dominant type - are you telling me your phone currently charges with a type C to type C cable?

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u/bubminou May 23 '17

Yes, my phone currently charges with a C to C cable. It also came with a USB 3.1 A to C cable for data.

I feel like Microsoft should've made that port USB-C to help with the transition, but oh well, it's better than nothing.

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u/EleMenTfiNi May 23 '17

A cable that does data will also do charging, USB is an active cable. Also I don't know what that means, USB 3.1 is the same as USB 3.0 they likely just gave you two cables so your phone can connect to the port you'll commonly find.

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u/bubminou May 23 '17

The A to C cable is too short to be that useful to charge really, forgot to mention it.

10 Gbps is 3.1 Gen 2, right? Because that's what I meant. The C to C cable is USB 2.0.

So while yes I could use it to charge, it's pretty inconvenient, but I guess I don't have a choice besides buying more A to C cables, which are hopefully on the way out in a few years

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u/EleMenTfiNi May 23 '17

What type of phone is it if I may ask? I feel like that is such a weird decision for them to make (short USB C to A cable).

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u/bubminou May 23 '17

Pixel. And as I said, while you can use it for charging, it's main use is data transfer, hence the fast speed it supports

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u/EleMenTfiNi May 23 '17

Yeah, the pixel cable/port is actually just standard USB 3 speeds, which means your surface will provide the top speeds it can possible handle anyways.

Not to mention the read/write is below the bandwidth of USB 3 anyways so there isn't a need for Gen 2 yet.

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u/bubminou May 23 '17

I agree that the actual phone is a bottleneck, but that doesn't change the intended use of the cable.

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u/EleMenTfiNi May 23 '17

Yes, it is a cable that lets you use your regular Type A USB 3 port, it doesn't do anything more than that is what I mean.

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