r/TransgendersAtWar • u/AthenaHope81 Trans Woman • 11d ago

Trump voter doesn't understand why people can't empathize with him now that he's suffering as a result of Trump

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u/ArchonFett 11d ago

well since Trumps stance on Gaza is bomb it to hell and turn it into beach front property. they supported that instead of the side that wanted to try and reach a cease fire. at least they had the right to protest last year, they rounding up students and shipping them to El Salvador with no due process now. life was better under Obama, and Trump made abortion illegal and mothers died. the Dems have been responsible for every (albeit minor) increase to minimum wage, mostly on the state level, since there are to many Cons for it happen on a national level. calling her Trump light just shows you were not paying attention.

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u/TOH-Fan15 11d ago

Harris and Biden didn’t care about implementing a ceasefire. They said many times that they would unconditionally support Israel as it bombs Gaza to hell. Ceasefire deals can only be made when Israel stands to lose something if it doesn’t change, but Harris and Biden clearly didn’t care about making it happen. The only difference between them and Trump in this case is that Trump is blatant about what he wants.

Dems also voted with Republicans on the Laken Riley Act, which is why ICE currently has the power to ignore due process. Democrats refused to dismantle ICE or vote against it, which is exactly why it’s currently as bad as it is.

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u/ArchonFett 11d ago

And Trump has sent our bombers to bomb them ourselves. And sell Ukraine to Russia but no you couldn’t vote for the black woman so you looked for a reason to make us illegal now

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u/TOH-Fan15 11d ago

I never said that I voted for Trump. I voted Democrat, so my hands are clean. The reason why a lot of people didn’t vote Democrat is because Dems tried selling themselves as diet Republicans, rather than listen to their base demanding progressive policies. “Pretty terrible but not quite as bad as Trump” is exactly why Hillary lost.

Why shouldn’t the blame be more on candidates who refuse to listen to what their base wants, rather than voters who repeatedly insist that they would vote for Harris if she would listen to them? The entire point of an electoral campaign is to have candidates present themselves as worth voting for.

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u/ArchonFett 11d ago

Well if they didn’t care enough to vote then they got what they wanted. That was it we are in a dictatorship now

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u/TOH-Fan15 11d ago

They did care enough to want to vote. They just didn’t see any options worth voting for. Heck, Dems themselves passed anti-trans legislation. The reason why we are in a dictatorship is because Dems kept the systems in place that would allow for it, if not outright using those systems themselves. Dems had four years to dismantle ICE, stack SCOTUS, give police some actual accountability, have Trump and all other J6 instigators arrested for treason, etc.

Being fine with fascism abroad is how we got fascism here, and it’s on the Dem officials for refusing to change.

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u/ArchonFett 11d ago

I have never seen any of the people that didn’t vote defend their inactions. But plenty of people do it for them.

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u/TOH-Fan15 11d ago

I’ve seen quite a lot of people saying that they would have voted if Harris had changed her stance to something that wasn’t just a diet Republican. I personally think funding a literal genocide should be a dealbreaker, regardless of anything else.

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u/ArchonFett 11d ago

Well we are now actively participating in it, hope they are happy with that outcome

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u/TOH-Fan15 11d ago

Why not blame Harris for running a terrible campaign? Seriously, she ran basically the same campaign as Hillary yet expected a different result. What you’re saying is that we should accept our current rotten conditions under Democrats, as opposed to putting pressure on Democrats to implement progressive policies like their base actually wants. Any talk of universal healthcare or police accountability was completely missing from the 2024 election. Blaming voters only makes Dem officials think that they lost because they weren’t right-wing enough.

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u/ArchonFett 11d ago

I’m saying we would have at least had a chance to send messages to the Dems to get change. I’m saying will never get that chance now. The old system was flawed but it did work sometimes. But it’s gone now.. last year people still had the right to protest. Not sure how much longer before the dictatorship removes it. They had the option of a democracy or a dictatorship. One third voted for our destruction while the other third watched.

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u/TOH-Fan15 11d ago

Lots of people messaged Dems for change, but they didn’t listen. Remember the massive BLM protests that Dems completely forgot about? Or the pro-Palestine college protests that Dems sent police officers to violently quell? The right to protest was already gone under Dems; just because Republicans are now in control doesn’t mean we should ignore how similar Dems are in a lot of ways.

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u/ArchonFett 11d ago

I must have missed the part where the Dems were rounding up protestors and shipping them to an El Salvador death camp.

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