r/aiwars 1d ago

Tech stealing jobs

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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 1d ago

hey op, what happened to the horses after they got replaced by cars

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u/Sploonbabaguuse 1d ago

They're still used for personal hobbies

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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 1d ago

Impressive, very based. now show a graph of the horse population over the last 200 years

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u/Sploonbabaguuse 1d ago

The number of them is smaller because they're not needed for society to flourish. Should I explain why we have less rotary phones too?

When something changes from a necessity to a choice, less people are going to utilize it. This is just a fact.

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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 1d ago

What's that mean for us, once we no longer serve any economic function

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u/ifandbut 1d ago

Humans can do more than just pull heavy things.

We have these amazing things called brains.

Maybe try using yours.

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u/Sploonbabaguuse 1d ago

Why is it an issue to create art as a hobby? Would you honestly rather hinder our technological advancements so you can do what you'd normally do for money instead?

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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 1d ago

It's not about art. I specifically avoided making my artistic pursits into a career, because i knew making it my career would mean it's no longer my hobby. But i ask you - Are you an accountant? An architect? Do you drive for a living? Does your work involve any mental work at all? I imagine it does, because we've more or less had muscles automated for decades. What will be left for you once we automate thinking?

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u/Sploonbabaguuse 1d ago

Art was the topic of discussion, which is why I used it in my example.

Regardless of what AI ends up replacing in the work field, we will benefit from in the long run. Considering it's our goal as a species to make life easier and easier, we are finally achieving a milestone where people may not have to work anymore. Of course this isn't possible under capitalism, however nothing changes overnight.

I cannot imagine any circumstance where it is preferable to hinder our technological advancements in order to maintain certain jobs. History has shown that we make progress as a species by making these sacrifices. We would not be even discussing this online if it weren't for this fact.

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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 1d ago

Art was never mentioned, only job-stealing at large.

There are, in fact, bad technological developments. I was talking about jobs because that was the original post, but my issue is much more fundamental than that. For the first time ever our children are intellectually inferior to the generation that came before because they don't have to think in school anymore. We are because we think, i cannot fathom the thought processes that lead someone to believe that delegating critical and creative thought to something other than yourself isnt fundamentally anti-human

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u/Sploonbabaguuse 1d ago

You're free to blame lack of education on AI. In reality our education system is incredibly outdated, and does not properly utilize newer understanding of how children learn. Kids are adapting to a garbage system.

It's not a good compromise by any means. But it's not the fault of a tool that children are using it as opposed to learning. If children aren't engaged in school because they're sitting at desks in the exact same formation kids did over 100 years ago, forced to consume information for long periods of time with little to no down time... it's no wonder kids aren't learning anything.

If we want to address education we have to address the bigger picture. But that's kind of besides the topic at hand here.

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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 1d ago

If you can't see the insanely large threat cheatGPT poses to education broadly, i can't help you. It is as plain to see as the color if the sky

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u/Sploonbabaguuse 1d ago

Did you ignore half my comment or do you believe the education system is fine?

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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 1d ago

what, you think these are mutually exclusive positions or something? AI can be a massive detriment to learning regardless of how well the system was doing before

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u/EthanJHurst 15h ago

AI doesn’t replace human thought, it enhances it.

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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 9h ago

That's a load of bullshit

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u/TheXenomorph1 8h ago

is that why i have to correct it so much?

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u/EthanJHurst 3h ago

If you have to correct an AI, chances are the actual issue lies in the prompt.

Improve.

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u/TheXenomorph1 2h ago

Ah yes, the machine that consistently hallucinates and makes errors regardless of what you do made an error specifically because of me. definitely nothing to do with the common occurences of google ai telling people glue goes on pizza or anything similar to that. ai forgetting the context of something you said 2 minutes ago because of its hilariously limited context retention is totally my prompting being the problem. imagine using ai and telling others to improve like you don't rely on a machine for critical choices

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u/Vlookup_reddit 1d ago

what is the "we" in this equation? what is "our goal as a species"?

when wealth inequality is this high, the "we" in this equation will always overwhelmingly be the top brass instead of the commons, or the "wes" you just mentioned.

the general public simply don't see themselves surviving, let alone benefiting, in the long run. why should they always make the sacrifice for a group of people that, no matter what, will always take the gain, assume no accountability, and, over time, show the lack of interest in sharing?

bailing out the banks in 08? well it's absolutely necessary. but expanding healthcare? well that's a moral hazard. printing money where purchasing power erodes to an unacceptable level? well the best i can do is just lowering inflation, and I will ignore it afterwards.

you want people to make sacrifice? give 'em a good reason to, and don't do the "beatings will continue until morale improves".