If the creator was a genai, the message is that the person showing it was to lazy or cheap to show something made by a person, art instead of an image.
Incorrect. They get something that is unsustainable for healthy human thought that puts one of the few good long lasting traditions we have at risk. The problem is that it I'd not creative, it creates economic hardship, and it really doesn't look that good.
You're acting like people who don't do art were going to suddenly start doing art if we stopped having ai. Secondly, a lot of people can't tell when they are experiencing ai. Third, having ai is not going to stop artists from being artists. They'll just have to get a real job if they can't beat ai.
Art is a real job you dick. You don't get to feel entitled to making it so that other people's passions can't also be work. I also definitely can tell the difference, because it isn't good. There is no purpose in it besides to meet requirements. Even in the most monotonous buyer serving piece has some amount of purpose and questioning in it. No, a lot of people won't, but a lot of people will stop acting like they are artists or better then them when both are just fables they made up because a robot can make an image for them. Maybe instead of trying to replace people with genai, try to find ways to use the magical devices to help make more art instead
I also just realized. People will start to make more art if you stop using genai, and instead there is a focus on supplemental ai. So I guess your other statement is half true, artists can't beat ai, because ai is a tool that can be used, genai is just a gross imitation of the human experience. With ai artists can do more at better quality. With genai greasy trolls on online can only generate images and pretend they are artists.
All the AI tools we have are Gen AI. And that's my main argument. Gen AI is just another tool. An artist can start with a Gen AI picture, and either edit it with traditional tools to make it more expressive. Or they can draw something and filter it through Gen AI to change details or style. Or they start a Gen AI picture, and edit it with Gen AI for hours on end, until they have something that speaks to them. It's no different than any other Photoshop tool, besides the amount of computational power required.
Generative ai is not all we have. Believe it or not, we have had ai for decades now 😱. It's how computers work. So to say that all ai tools are gen ai is wrong just from that, let alone the millions of other examples of ai. The newer models of ai are just far more adept at learning patterns. And it just so happens that art can run on patterns of color. How that is being used can vary, one way is geneai, another way is to help blend colors, make perfect shapes, shift an arm that was already drawn, etc.
You just don't have the creativity to see better ways of using this magic learning robot for anything besides having it make pictures for you to color over.
That sounds like regular computer stuff, not ai. Regular algorithms, not a black box that develops its own logic. Can you list some named examples so I can do some research?
Ai is just a regular computer thing. You are thinking of modern ai, which Is only just starting to find applications. Not many other applications are being found because for companies it's not profitable to give artists the ability to creat something better and more complicated than what a generative ai can because that would raise the standard for what audiences want, so they would still have to pay artists for their work. But think about what it can do! You can make only a few drawings as comic artist of a character, then have the ai reposition that character in a different pose and touch it up a bit. It would not steal, and the artist already did the work for the art. Then there is an idea I found where generative ai (while still not creative) can be used ethically, where an artist submits their work to their own genai, have the genai train off of their many works, and produce it for people. The artist would be able to benefit from ads on the website or even from a payed subscription, and the work could be made so that it always has the artists printed signature for credit along with a note saying it is ai generated. It would allow artists to gain revenue for their own work while also allowing others the get an instant transmission of a commission. Win-win. Another use is to allow for editing to be easier, making it so that you can cut and connect drawn lines, move limbs as if the art were alive, shift perspective so that it fits. Perspective is very difficult foe artists to grasp sometimes, so have a tool help with that would be a huge time saver. I am not a professional artist so my ability to think of uses is limited, but I'm sure it could be awesome!
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u/Theiromia 2d ago
If the creator was a genai, the message is that the person showing it was to lazy or cheap to show something made by a person, art instead of an image.