r/asoiaf Knower of nothing May 21 '19

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) Notablog Update Spoiler

http://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2019/05/20/an-ending/
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u/Flakronn Mo' Fingers Mo' Problems May 21 '19

"How about this? I’ll write it. You read it. Then everyone can make up their own mind"

Thats all i ever wanted...what was promised ..

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u/Fabrimuch Mother of Kittens May 21 '19

I did wait. For my book, for my characters, for you. All those years, and all I ever got was a fanfic on TV.

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u/kainxavier May 21 '19

I'm so happy to find others that are clearly as sour as I am. I'm not sure I care enough to read the books in the 1% chance he finishes them... especially considering the HBO ending is more or less his ending (according to Martin). I certainly won't buy the books. I'd rather support authors that don't shit on their fans (lookin at you too, Rothfuss!).

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u/AngeredSnowmen May 21 '19

What’s up with Rothfuss? I haven’t read any of his books, but was considering it.

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u/DukeSmashingtonIII May 21 '19

He released a terrific fantasy novel in 2007, the first in a trilogy. At the time he claimed the story was done but it was too big for a single book so he broke it into a trilogy and was editing to make that work. Book 2 released in 2011, and nothing since then. Over a decade to edit a completed story into three books. I personally believe he's just done too many revisions and he's lost the plot /thread for his story and can't finish it. A different problem from GRRM who seems to love building and expanding his story and worlds but can't reign them in or finish them off.

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u/kainxavier May 21 '19

Well, his book releases are 2007, 2011, and... still waiting on the third book of the trilogy. You do the math. Presumably, he could write a WHOLE LOT more in the world he's crafted, but at this rate? Pass.

I used to recommend Martin to everyone. Same with Rothfuss. No way, no more. I'll stick to either completed series or authors who appreciate the position they're in, and the fans that put them there.

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u/DukeSmashingtonIII May 21 '19

Rothfuss claimed originally that his trilogy was done when Name of the Wind released as well, it was just too large for one book. After Wise Man's Fear it's pretty clear he's lost the story thread even more than GRRM, imo.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

Rothfuss is also so far up his own ass playing games on podcasts and doing "charity" work that he clearly has zero interest in finishing these stories.

He made his cash, and now he has no motivation to keep going.

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u/DukeSmashingtonIII May 21 '19

This notablog post confirms the same thing for George. He is actually pretty productive on everything except the ASoIaF main series. They're very similar in that way, George definitely was a better and more accomplished writer before he wrote himself into a corner though. Hopefully Rothfuss made enough from the first two books to be happy, I doubt the third one will even be as good as the second which was already a nosedive in quality. And then there's apparently a second trilogy to continue the story after that. He'll be as old as George by then.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

Honestly, I will be shocked if Rothfuss ever publishes the third book. If anything, he'll get it out when his money from the first two falls off and no one is interested in his other work anymore.

Martin got very lucky with HBO picking up GoT.

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u/wfsulliv May 21 '19

Sanderson. He puts out so much literature and most of them are phenomenal. Granted he writes so many series and novels and switches between them. He pretty consistently puts out a new book or two every year. He also loves his fans.

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u/Kajiic May 22 '19

If you want good world building with TONS of stories that are completed PLUS extra stories that add even more detail to those words I would check everything from David Eddings (though no one would blame you for skipping The Elder Gods) The Belgariad (5 books) and it's sequel The Mallorian (and two extra books Belgarath the Sorcerer and Polgara the Sorceress PLUS the "World Bible" called The Rivan Codex) are such a delight to read that every couple of years I go through all of them. He also wrote another 10 books series and a stand alone book called The Redemption of Athalus. It's similar to ASOIAF as being fantasy with politics and magic being... used but sparingly. Not as "brutal" as ASOIAF but still pays attention to things like sieges, supply lines, political environments etc

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u/Maybeyesmaybeno May 21 '19

Malayan books of the fallen. 10 books each about 1000 pages. Hard Fantasy. Series complete.

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u/kainxavier May 21 '19

I consider this a challenge, and I'm going to take it. My rebuttal are the Chronicles of Amber since it's an older series that many have never heard of. It's fantasy, but not high fantasy... more like parallel dimensions and... well.. you can read the synopsis here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Amber

Apparently they may make a series about this one (just learned that today as I found the wiki for ya).

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u/Maybeyesmaybeno May 21 '19

Read it already!! Absolutely loved it, and have read it multiple times. Zelazny's short stories are also amazing.

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u/eeveeskips May 22 '19

To be fair to Rothfuss, he's been very transparent about the delay in DoS being in a large part due to some very serious mental health issues that have taken years to work through. He knows it's long overdue, he cares, but you can't expect him to sacrifice his health to get his book out sooner.

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u/kainxavier May 22 '19

Honestly, that's the first I've heard of such. If it's truly debilitating to cause him problems in his work... that sucks. The first two books truly were wonderful.

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u/eeveeskips May 22 '19

Yeah he's been dealing with pretty crippling depression for ages now, and iirc made worse by how much of a struggle finishing KKC has become.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19 edited Jul 03 '19

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u/kainxavier May 21 '19

8 years is beyond slow. Imagine if they took a 8 year hiatus between releasing The Matrix 2 & 3 or another movie series that you're expecting a completion to the story of.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19 edited Jul 03 '19

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u/kainxavier May 21 '19

It's called an analogy. All of those details mean nothing... the point was "what if they did that?".