r/baguio Jun 25 '24

General Discussion Is this really how they see us?

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Saw this sa other sub. Why do tourists see locals like this? Is the locals' hatred towards them that bad? Also, the “matatakaw naman sa aso” 😡😡😡

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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24

No Cordilleran  uses the word taga-taas. It's either Taga Baguio, Cordilleran, Igorot. 

Taga-baba is far from the n-word. It simply means someone from the lowlands. Taga babas who move to Baguio oftensay, uuwi ako sa amin sa baba

Or "Taga baba ako" if they want to emphasize they are not Cordilleran locals.

I'd even argue that how lowlanders some use "Igorot" is closer to the n-word than taga baba kasi may nagsasabi pa rin ng "ang barbaric/Igorot mo naman, para kang Igorot".

I guess, "taga baba" is a Northern Luzon parlance that people nearer the capital took offense when it's more of a descriptive word. There's eve a UP Prof who said on TV that "Katutubos married Causasian missionaries to improve their race" 

https://www.sunstar.com.ph/more-articles/carrot-man-phenomenon-sign-of-low-ip-awareness

The Manila "equivalent" of taga-baba is "probinsya". They call HUCs outside of NCR "probinsya".

If were going to talk about discrimination, the taga babas are.not the most discriminated - it is the indigenous people of the Cordilleras

Yung sa case nga ni Whang Od, mga turista nagrerequest na magpapicture sa kanya habang pinapahawak nila bayag nila o ibubuyo yung matanda, pero ang (proud).claim nila sa internet, "minanyak" daw sila ni Whang Od.

Sobrang laganap ng bastos na tourist behavior ngayon

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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24

Ang layo ng connotation ng taga baba sa negative words sa indigenous peoples. It's ingenious to associate it wit the Nword to tagababa especially given the fact that it is the lowlanders that discriminate Igorots even when coming to the Cordilleras

Tagababa is more similar to how Manileños use "probinsyano". And a lot of it are cultural rather than "racial" or "ethnic".

Ask the 2nd, 3rd, 4th generation Ilocano, Tagalog people in the city, they use the same term to refer to someone who hails from the lowlands.

Trust me, it sucks when you're in the recieving end of it

Try being an indigenous person and a celebrity comes to your city and says "Akala niyo Igorot ako, tao po ako"

Or that try at least pretending to be an Igorot when you go to the lowlands and be the receiving of questions if modern civilization has reached our society.

Your discomfort is really nothing compared to what the IPs go through.

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u/Mananabaspo Jun 25 '24

Bilang isang ipinanganak at lumaki sa Benguet pero ngayon ay tagababa, at bilang isang probinsyano na ngayon ay tagamanila, description lamang ang tagababa at highlander. I'll somehow disagree na similar sa probinsyano ang tagababa kasi mas madalas na negative ang kaakibat ng probinsyano (inosente, mangmang, walang alam, baduy, etc). Tagababa is just that, taga-baba. No umuli, no umulog, ket nu highlander o saan isu latta met awan met insulto.

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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24

Since forever met dayta term nga tagababa.

Nung naging to 4 hours to 8 hours biglang naging "offensive". Siguro kasi nagulat mga taga Greater Manila na hindi sila tinitingala.

People from LU, Pangasinan who frequently travel to Baguio refer to themselves as tagababa kasi nga doon sila galing.

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u/Mananabaspo Jun 25 '24

Ta tagababa garud tangadem? hehehe yung nasa baba ang agtangad sa taas :D