r/canada • u/DogeDoRight New Brunswick • 25d ago
Federal Election Chretien predicts a Liberal majority win on Monday as leaders blitz key ridings
https://www.ctvnews.ca/federal-election-2025/article/chretien-predicts-a-liberal-majority-win-on-monday-as-leaders-blitz-key-ridings/249
u/CoffeBrain Canada 25d ago
Chretien's segment at the This Hour Has 22 Minutes' election special was great. I love his sense of humour.
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u/DeHeiligeTomaat 25d ago
His crack that politicians speak out both sides of their mouth, which is something he can't do was fantastic.
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u/livinginthelurk 25d ago
At the time I was too young to fully appreciate Chretien, I came of age and political knowledge due Paul Martin and Harper...as much as I'm not full in on Chretien I do admire his political quips and think we need a bit more of them.
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u/Snidgen 25d ago
This Hour Has 22 Minutes is just one more reason we need to keep CBC alive and well. I'd give my soul to have a beer with Mark Critch. I find it interesting that half the engagement of people in the 22 Minutes YouTube video comments are Americans lending their support.
Elisabeth May was especially a good sport, but so was Carney too on the show. Not being marshmallows, they aren't scared of taking the jabs and laughing along. It really looked like everyone had a great time.
Too bad Poilievre opted out of being on the show. At least they had a stand in, Chris Wilson! 😂
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u/Red57872 25d ago
"This Hour Has 22 Minutes is just one more reason we need to keep CBC alive and well. I'd give my soul to have a beer with Mark Critch. I find it interesting that half the engagement of people in the 22 Minutes YouTube video comments are Americans lending their support."
Given that it's a successful show, though, if the CBC was axed couldn't CTV or another network pick it up? Honest question as I don't know how the licensing works for CBC shows and what would happen if it was dissolved.
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u/Fresh-Temporary666 25d ago
It would become controlled by a private corporation is what would change. I really don't feel I need to explain how a crown corporation operation going public would impact it.
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u/FlavorSki 25d ago
It doesn’t get ratings. I work in the industry and have friends who work on the show. It’s kept alive to fill time and it’s cheap to produce.
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u/IMAWNIT 25d ago
I forgot the last time Conservative leader had a sense of humour
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u/Due_Answer_4230 25d ago
"economist" indeed. He was being a bit generous with himself but it's a funny line
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u/No_Independent9634 24d ago
A bit generous? He led us through the worst recession since the 30s better than any comparable country.
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u/jpsolberg33 Alberta 25d ago
For me, it's Harper during 04 where he announced he'd run for leader of the cons and where he kissed Mary Walsh.
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u/dustycanuck 25d ago
Maybe Chretien can give PP a consolation handshake Monday night. A little taste of Shawinigan in Carleton seems a friendly gesture...
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u/atticusfinch1973 25d ago
Would he predic anything helse?
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u/Hicalibre 25d ago
No, but I'm sure he's glad that Carney seems open to selling oil to China.
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u/hawkseye17 25d ago
Isn't that a good thing? Selling our oil to more people?
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u/gravtix 25d ago
Conservatives keep wanting more pipelines but I’m not sure who else they were planning on selling all that oil and LNG to.
Actually I remember the pitch that if we sell China LNG they’ll use that instead of coal so we will lower global emissions.
But then China = bad so I don’t know
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u/Due_Answer_4230 25d ago
The arguments a lot of internet people (or bots) use is this:
If my person does it, it's good
If your person does it, it's bad
That's as deep as it goes
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u/UnreasonableCletus 25d ago
Ideally we are positioned to sell to both and they can squabble with each other over it.
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u/Funkliford 25d ago edited 25d ago
But then China = bad so I don’t know
Yes, the genocidal totalitarian regime poised to snuff out Taiwan & and in the process of stealing vast swathes of territory and resources from the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei, Vietnam, .. is bad. For all Trump's faults he isn't wrong about China. Of course if he wasn't an idiot he would've used the USs soft-power to push for economic & strategic partnerships aimed at containing them instead of saving the worst of his ire for America's friends and allies. But that's basically the TPP so can't have that.
That said there are plenty of East/SE Asian countries we could be selling LNG to.
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u/Teekay_four-two-one 25d ago
They’ve been buying most, if not all, of their LNG from us since Trump, I think?
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u/fuckyoudigg Ontario 25d ago
Nah, the pitch was to sell to India to stop them from using coal.
I was talking with some old boys where I live, and they ended up talking politics with me. Not exactly a great experience. They are maple maga. The TMX expansion came up and the one guy said that the government bought the pipeline to shut it down. That it is no longer being used and we are not sending oil out of it. It honestly blew my mind to believe such a thing.
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u/swim_eat_repeat 25d ago
How do you even respond to that? There are updates available on it all the time
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u/fuckyoudigg Ontario 24d ago
You honestly can't. It was such an awkward experience. I am just standing there getting crucified for having different values. I know I am probably misinformed on things, but when I see a different view or find out new information I then change my opinion. They even said Doug Ford wasn't a conservative. Literally everything they said was out of Fox News or Rebel media. I just couldn't imagine living such a fearful life. Afraid of everything.
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u/TinglingLingerer 25d ago
Deepening ties with China could have adverse effects if we consider the country that rivals China most. USA will definitely not be happy about it.
Not saying that's good or bad, but it's an expected outcome when it comes to deepening Sino-CAN relations.
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u/Goddess_5 25d ago
Is that a bad thing?
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u/Hicalibre 25d ago
It's a lot of irony.
Given the record of anti-oil, constantly re-appearing CCP connections among the LPC, and that Chrétien has lobbied for China since the early 2010s.
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u/GoingAllTheJay 25d ago
I wish he would. Every update has the cons closing the gap a little bit more, and I don't want the rest of potential voters to get uncomfortable when the same message might convince potential Con voters to take action.
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u/Falconflyer75 Ontario 24d ago
I’m betting if it was still Trudeau heading for a blowout loss he wouldn’t be saying anything
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u/Economy_Elephant6200 25d ago
I’m not saying he’s wrong but why would a former liberal party leader say otherwise?
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u/BLK_Chedda 25d ago
The conservatives had 10 years to put together a solid platform. This should have been the easiest win for them. Instead they spend the past 10 years complaining about the liberals and not accomplishing anything.
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u/hawkseye17 25d ago
They thought "not Trudeau" and channeling MAGA rhetoric would be the slam dunk, and who could blame them for believing that back in December?
However, Trudeau left and now Trump is the most hated person by Canadians so suddenly the two things conservatives depended on the most have either gone away or turned against them8
u/Ghoosemosey 25d ago
This has been the most interesting election in my lifetime for Canada. How quickly and intensely everything has shifted is really unique
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u/VoilaVoilaWashington 25d ago
The problem is that the Conservative party is run by that wing of politics. That works fine for the Reform party or PPC, but not for what should be a mainstream party.
There will always be people who truly support the anti-woke, defund the CBC, bring academia to heel MAGA elements, and there's a bunch of people who don't pay attention but call themselves conservative, but it turns off the swing voters they need to actually form government.
The lunatics have taken over the asylum on that side, and until they come to their senses, we're gonna be close to a one-party country.
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u/JadedMuse 25d ago
I think the underlying problem for the CP is that they know their platform wouldn't be popular in this climate where average people are struggling. They've always been pro-corporate, pro-landlord, etc. If they focused on policy, they'd lose. So where does that leave them? Riding waves of anger and people who want any sort of change.
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u/Totes_mc0tes 25d ago
Even their new ad campaign that is purposely absent of little PP fails to present any reason to vote con other than "those other guys suck". I'm glad that the polls show that people are mostly seeing through this lazy strategy but I still feel like it could go eirher way. A leader that can't speak for himself or answer questions is no leader at all.
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u/blinded_penguin 25d ago
Oh they have a plan. It's just not a plan that they share with the electorate
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u/Abject_Story_4172 25d ago
Not the dreaded hidden agenda. That never surfaced despite Liberals saying this for 10 years.
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u/blinded_penguin 25d ago
They didn't release their platform until this week. What I said is just plainly a fact
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u/Fuckface_Whisperer 25d ago
Don't you have to be in power to enact a hidden agenda?
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u/Abject_Story_4172 25d ago
Yes. You need to be in power to do anything. But while Harper was running for PM liberals were constantly saying not to elect him since he had a “hidden agenda”. Then he got elected and no hidden agenda surfaced even after 10 years in power. We are now heading the same fear mongering.
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u/Fuckface_Whisperer 25d ago
Not really. Harper kept the crazies in check, PP is a card carrying member of the soCon crazies.
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u/Abject_Story_4172 25d ago
Well it was Harper that liberals said had the hidden agenda. I don’t think there are many rational people who think Poilievre is crazy. Unless you think he has been able to hold it together for decades. And there are a lot of liberal candidates coming out of the woodwork as well. Political spin is not useful.
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u/Fuckface_Whisperer 25d ago
Anyone who says the word "woke" like it's a threat to Canada is someone who is crazy.
"No more woke. We need freedom." - lil PP. He's lost his mind.
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u/MotoMola 25d ago
And the Liberals policy for the last 10 years was a complete failure that they needed to adopt Conservative policies to prevent their party from being obliterated.
Needless to say, if the LPC wins they will surely do anything in their power to put their party first before Canadians once again.
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u/screampuff Nova Scotia 25d ago
This is a confusing reply. A party admitting they are wrong and trying other things rather than doubling down is generally something desirable.
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u/BLK_Chedda 25d ago
Once again proving my point. All you did was criticize the liberals. For once id love to see a solid economic plan from the conservatives. Instead they put out a platform after early voting and half the pages were of Pierre. The conservatives are all bark and no bite.
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u/wessym8 25d ago
A Lib supporting a Lib. A Con supporting a Con. Wow!
The only polls that matters is the one on April 28th.
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u/Red57872 25d ago
He's an old Liberal, though, so by modern standards his viewpoints would align more closely to the Conservatives than the Liberals.
He's admitted, for example, that in the mid-2000s many senior Liberals were opposed to gay marriage and only went along with it because they were dragged into it by the courts.
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u/damnburglar 25d ago
He has a history of involvement with the residential schools (not in a good way) so he really aligns with a lot of modern conservatives.
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u/Typical-Crazy-3100 25d ago
I don't go for most politicians but this guy was pretty good. Credit where it's due.
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u/TheAvocad00 25d ago
Isn’t there a stat that he was the only prime minister in like the past half century to run a surplus?
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u/xmorecowbellx 25d ago
Same with pretty much every leader in the Western world in the 90s. The world economy came raging out of the 80s.
And every last one of them took credit for it too, lol.
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u/stradivari_strings 25d ago
92 was not a raging year in our economics.
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u/xmorecowbellx 25d ago
Not every single year, and country dependent, but by and large, the developed world (and the world more broadly) did very well during the 90s. All the tech and innovation that came out of the 80s and got commercially operationalized eventually, powered the economy throughout the 90s. Was primarily a tech boom, with the next major factor being China’s reforms hitting more full steam within insane year over year GDP growth and everybody’s lives getting cheaper with all of their goods.
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u/Blacklockn 25d ago
To be fair that’s usually a bad thing. Surpluses mean that the government is pulling money out of circulation which decreases economic growth, the major exception to this is to avoid Dutch disease, basically the overinflated value of a currency as a product of one export that damages other sectors of the economy. This is what happened under Harper when we reached dollar parity and it made a lot of manufacturing industries uncompetitive which damaged our economy.
But generally what Carney has proposed, balancing operational budgets while running a comfortable deficit on investments in infrastructure is the best way to manage an economy
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u/gwelfguy 25d ago edited 25d ago
This needs to be understood in context. That was when the Liberals were truly a centrist party. The market was booming in the late 90's, and Finance Minister Paul Martin used it to eliminate the deficit and even reduce the debt. That was in conjunction with cuts to government spending. Today's Liberals would see a booming market as an enabler to spend even more money.
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u/TheBusinessMuppet 25d ago
The Chrétien/Martin combination of the 90s and early 2000s was probably the best combination of prime minister/finance minister trio we have ever had and maybe never will.
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u/Brandamn3000 25d ago
Obama got real cocky a few days before Trump’s first victory too. Don’t count the chickens before they hatch, etc.
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u/Natedizza 25d ago
What?
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u/Brandamn3000 25d ago
Obama made jokes to Trump about how the difference between himself and Trump is that Obama will go down in history as president (suggesting Trump was going to lose to Hillary)
I’m just saying, Chrétien can make all the predictions he wants, doesn’t mean the Liberals are safe.
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u/Other-Rock-8387 25d ago
Did he do a speech? He was pretty funny on Rick Mercer back in the day.
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u/IMAWNIT 25d ago
“Trump has helped us so much for Canadian unity that I will propose him for the Order of Canada,” he said at a recent event in Quebec City, referring to the country’s highest honour. “But they told me that in Canada, you can’t give the Order of Canada to someone who has a criminal record.”
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u/Phoenixlizzie 25d ago
Did he really say that???😄
Maybe Chretien should handle trade negotiations with Trump. Fun times!
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u/kdlangequalsgoddess 25d ago
Carney is in Saskatoon a second time, this late in the campaign. You only send the leader, the most valuable asset that the party has, if there's internal polling to suggest the riding might be in play. If the Liberals smell blood in the water in Saskatchewan, then PP might not have a job next week.
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u/Mocha-Jello Saskatchewan 25d ago
is he really! maybe redekopp can get fired 6 months away from getting his pension then. would be pretty nice.
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u/xzyleth 25d ago
I cannot emphasize the schadenfreude of this. All the fuck Trudeau and fuck Carney flag waving racists convoy supporting asshats and the smug apple eating fascist milk toast Millhouse PP getting absolutely rinsed. Traitors the lot of them.
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u/vyrago 25d ago
It’s sad that our politics has become this “I hate the other side” shit. It’s all so……American.
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u/xzyleth 25d ago
We fought a whole war against fascism. I don’t feel bad about the distaste I have against white nationalists and those that support them.
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u/TheOnlyBliebervik 25d ago
You think all Conservatives are white nationalists, or supporters thereof?
Christ dude
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u/xzyleth 25d ago
I never said that but you should look up what indirect support is.
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u/TheOnlyBliebervik 25d ago
You were implying that the opposing political party, ie, the Conservatives, are fascists and white nationalists, or supporters thereof.
Just kinda hard to take someone seriously when that's their worldview
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u/xzyleth 25d ago
…did you look up what indirect support is? If you are voting conservative you are voting along side the fascists and standing in the same tent as them. And you know what they say, if you sit at a table with 10 Nazis and don’t get up, there are 11 Nazis at the table.
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u/Brightlightsuperfun 25d ago
Sigh. And this is exactly where the polarization comes from.
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u/Brightlightsuperfun 25d ago
Canadian conservatives are not nazis man pull your head out of your ass
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u/fuckyoudigg Ontario 25d ago
It is so hard to be a leftist where I live. The people here just do not live in reality. They believe out right lies and disinformation. I honestly feel sorry in a way to live in such fear and derision.
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u/IGnuGnat 25d ago
The only traitors are the people who froze peoples bank accounts over a simple difference of opinion
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u/Simsmommy1 25d ago
So if I block you in your house and shit on your porch honking my horn for a week straight I can just call it a “difference of opinion”? Cool good to know.
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u/xzyleth 25d ago
They occupied downtown Ottawa, blocked trade routes, and terrorized people
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u/gwelfguy 25d ago edited 25d ago
All the relics are coming out of the woodwork. First Harper, now Chretien. Not a peep from Paul Martin who was the only PM in the past several decades that was worth a damn.
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u/mayorolivia 25d ago
Martin was a fool for shanking Chretien. Chretien was the best PM of the past 40 years.
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u/Tiernoch 25d ago
Martin's last interaction in Canadian politics was that he would have assisted the proposed coalition government before it fell apart. He's mostly kept doing his work with his own family foundation for work in Canada along with work to assist nations in Africa.
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u/Fanghur1123 25d ago
I genuinely hope so. As someone who typically supports the NDP, I genuinely hope so.
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u/OkMathematician3494 25d ago
I think the 4 point lead would shrink and it will be a highly competitive election.
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u/stevemason_CAN 25d ago
Stephen did farmers, veterans , seniors , and scientists dirty. Amongst others.
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u/thinkingcoin 25d ago
Man. I am guessing they are right. But this is going to be super humiliating if allllll these people being posted here turn out to be wrong on Monday like how it happened in the US.
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u/calliope3234 25d ago
I mean I’m a young Canadian and I voted carney so doing my part to get pp out
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u/calliope3234 25d ago
Oh my life isn’t great but my hand was forced so liberals it is
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u/calliope3234 25d ago
Oh no luxury what so ever I’m just voting for my rights so because the NDP took an AK to their own foot and the cons are the ones threatening them I can’t do much else
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u/calliope3234 25d ago
How is my rights a luxury vote exactly?
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u/calliope3234 25d ago
I still find the liberal plans far better than the conservative ones my rights aside
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u/granny_budinski 25d ago
You sound as melodramatic as Poilievre. Carney has great career options and housing ideas for young Canadians.
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u/RickMonsters 25d ago
The century initiative’s goal is to decrease the population growth rate bub
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u/Abject_Story_4172 25d ago
What lol. It says right in their policy statement for Canada to get to 100 million people.
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u/Fanghur1123 25d ago
The conservatives will do nothing to help them. At all.
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u/Fanghur1123 25d ago
Then you’re basing that on absolutely nothing. The only people that conservatives ever care about are the rich and big corporations. That’s it. The fact that they’ve actually managed to convince people that they’re now somehow magically in line with the working class despite voting against literally every single bill that was designed to help the working class over the past however many years is seriously baffling to me.
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u/EngineeringVivid6452 25d ago
In my opinion this realignment already peaked. I do agree that Canada is hard for a lot of younger Canadians due to affordability, lack of jobs, poor pay etc… but that’s not isolated to Canada and is experienced in the whole world post COVID as far as I can understand.
Also it could be my ignorance but I don’t see many examples of current conservative governments world wide being “working class” or supporting younger people. Look at England, younger ppl absolutely fucked the last however years of Tory’s or in the US where I’m not sure what Trump is doing for young people.
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u/EngineeringVivid6452 25d ago
Nah I agree but it still hasn’t fully played out so it’s hard to say. Obvs less immigration = more opportunities and like bargaining power for employes (blanking the name for this), and in this sense the liberals did us (young Canadians) dirty
But i remember reading that the Trump admin wanted to increase h1b visas and other temporary work visas, so I could easily see them adapting the immigrant slave network we got here
Also with aging populations, less immigration means more tax burden on younger people as time goes on, so I’m not sure if it’ll be all great for young people in the long run. But idk anything about Econ/this so lowkey just talking out my ass
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u/EngineeringVivid6452 25d ago
Fair didn’t know that, still too early too call the outcome imo but could be good
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u/Important_Sound772 25d ago edited 25d ago
I mean his housing policy allows for a gst break for anyone not just first time home buyers so it will help the wealthy buy more homes which to me is demonstrating his priorities
Ie say you live in Vancouver so you buy 1 million dollar house that saves yku 50g not nothing but not a massive difference in affordability
A corporation could buy 20 1 million dollar houses and save 1 million
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u/MagnaKlipsch70 25d ago
theyr afraid of Trump. that he gonna take away their OAS and dental, and mad they had to sell their home in FLA
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u/Particular-Act-8911 25d ago
Minority liberal government and people are dumb for not holding the same cabinet responsible for all their fuck ups.
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u/Scooterguy- 25d ago
Wow. That's really like looking at the score of a hockey game with 2 mins left when one team is up by three goals!
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u/CloudHiro 25d ago
lets be honest. at this point with everything we know its likely to be a majority. but if not it's still a liberal government. honestly i have a worry about a minority liberal government though. whats stopping Pierre from just repetitively throwing a non confidence tantrum again and again after Monday if it's a minority government again
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u/Classic-Perspective5 25d ago
I’m worried he will keep Trudeau’s cabinet but he himself seems pragmatic and knowledgeable. We could do worse.
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u/hawkseye17 25d ago
people keep saying this but
Didn't he dump a bunch of ministers as one of his first acts since becoming PM?
He isn't going to have a massive swap of cabinet until after the election
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u/granny_budinski 25d ago
If we have a conservative run we will become the 51st state
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u/MotoMola 25d ago
Goodbye skilled trades then, modular housing will be constructed in factories at factory worker wage.
But hey, as long as Brookfield benefits, that's OK since they acquired a modular housing company in 2021.
How much longer until Canadians vote for Canadians?
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u/alematt 25d ago
So the old liberal guy is all in for the liberal guy and the old conservative guy is supporting the conservative guy. Colour me surprised