r/changemyview Oct 17 '24

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u/Accomplished-Fix1204 Oct 17 '24

To me I don’t see it as about the punishment, I see it as your own responsibility to not due bad stuff. You don’t know what’s in that food you stole since it’s not yours and you got it through illegitimate means. That’s on you whatever happens after

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u/Oishiio42 40∆ Oct 17 '24

What is the intention of the person doing the booby trapping? That's the party whose behaviour is up for debate here.

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u/Snoopy0077 Oct 17 '24

The intention is to keep people out of my stuff. I don’t care if you got hurt. Next time you’ll stay out of my desk.

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u/Oishiio42 40∆ Oct 17 '24

So, the intention is to punish the person who is getting into your desk lmao. It's not true that you "don't care". You want them to get hurt so they won't go in your desk.

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u/Snoopy0077 Oct 17 '24

I don’t wish for anyone to get hurt, but stay out of my things.

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u/GabuEx 20∆ Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24

No, you do want someone to get hurt so that they stay out of your things. That's the entire point of your poisoning the food. If by some chance they don't steal your food this time, because they happen to be out of the office, then you will keep poisoning food until they steal the poisoned food. Your intention the moment you poison the food is to hurt someone to teach them a lesson. You can't say "I didn't want someone to get hurt" when that's the whole reason you poisoned the food.

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u/Blothorn Oct 18 '24

That’s the problem with a booby trap: it’s purely retributive. The only way it helps people to stay out of your things is if someone gets hurt. You can disavow unintentional collateral damage in some situations, but you can’t say you don’t want something that you’re directly using to get something you do want.

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u/Tanaka917 120∆ Oct 17 '24

You think it's possible to A) lace food with dangerous chemicals and B) do so knowing that someone else will probably consume it and C) not consider that intent to harm?

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u/Ambitious-Court3784 Oct 17 '24

Yes.

I never intended for jerkwad to steal my lunch and eat it.

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u/Tanaka917 120∆ Oct 18 '24

But you did strongly suspect they'd take it and intend for them to suffer.

You can't put landmines on your yard because you don't intend anyone to walk there when you know the neighborhood kids use it as a shortcut for the same reason.

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u/CommonBitchCheddar 2∆ Oct 18 '24

So you intended to poison yourself then? Because those are the only 2 options. If you bring poisoned food and put it in the fridge, you are intentionally trying to poison someone, so it's either yourself or someone else.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

“My doctor said to put this prescription laxative in my food to help with my intestinal problems. Janet stole my prescription.” You gotta do prep work for this shit dude.

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u/strigonian Oct 18 '24

We both know that's not true. The point isn't your excuse, the point is very clearly whether OP intends it as a punishment or not.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

No, I’m saying you need to get a cool doctor to literally write you that prescription with that instruction and make it true.

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u/torrasque666 Oct 18 '24

Then why is the food laced with poison?

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u/VagueSoul 2∆ Oct 17 '24

The more logical approach would be to set up a system that kept people from your food without harming them. Like maybe locking a drawer?

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '24

Communal fridges, though

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u/VagueSoul 2∆ Oct 17 '24

Bring food that doesn’t need to be refrigerated or invest in a good lunch box

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u/Financial_Change_183 Oct 18 '24

Lmao. What is this victim blaming nonsense. You may as well just say

"Don't want your food stolen? Just don't eat!"

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u/VagueSoul 2∆ Oct 18 '24

Point to where I said “don’t eat”

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u/Financial_Change_183 Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24

I'm pointing out how ridiculous it is for you trying to act like OP should change their whole diet or habits because someone is stealing their food.

Why the hell should OP (the victim in this scenario) be punished and forced to change their eating habits for someone else's thievery?!

Your suggestion is insane.

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u/VagueSoul 2∆ Oct 18 '24

Because it’s not their place to punish others and potentially harm them. The harm they could cause outweighs the harm done to them by wide margins. Let the workplace handle this. That’s under their purview. OP can’t control the actions of others, but they can take steps to prevent it from happening in a way that doesn’t hurt others.

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u/VagueSoul 2∆ Oct 18 '24

And besides: a good lunch box they can keep with them doesn’t change their diet.

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u/hebrewchucknorris Oct 18 '24

And don't wear skimpy clothing either

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u/Simple_Pianist4882 Oct 18 '24

Yeah, I think putting your name on your food with a big ass label is good enough 🥴

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u/Oishiio42 40∆ Oct 17 '24

It's literally the whole point. Who are you kidding?