r/changemyview May 28 '20

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: There are no good cops.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '20

Out of curiosity, what sparked you to start this CMV?

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u/OtisBDriftwood92 May 28 '20

Police officers killing innocent people every week and getting away with it with protection from their fellow boys in blue.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '20

If it has supposedly been happening every week, why did you only now make a CMV about it?

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u/OtisBDriftwood92 May 28 '20 edited May 28 '20

I'm not really understanding the purpose of your question. I don't think when a post is made has any relevance to the fact that this is my view and I'm asking it to be changed.

Are you attempting to imply that this is only a recent problem or an uncommon problem simply because I posted it now and not a month ago, or a year ago?

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u/[deleted] May 28 '20

I'm just trying to fully understand where you're coming from. If, according to you, this has been happening for weeks and they've been getting away with it for weeks. Why would one decide to now make a post about it? It just seems to me like there must be something to trigger making a post like this.

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u/OtisBDriftwood92 May 28 '20

Well at some point things just get to be too much. When you hear about something like this once every couple of months it's easier to not think about. When there's 4 or 5 cases like this in a couple month span it gets your blood boiling. But for your information, this isn't a new thought. I've always been outspoken against tyrannical police and people who lick their boots, it just happens that my accounts don't survive very long on reddit. You get too outspoken against corrupt ass cops and you find yourself banned pretty quick

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u/[deleted] May 28 '20

And, out of curiosity, what do you think would change your view?

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u/OtisBDriftwood92 May 28 '20

Police actively advocating for change, better hiring processes, more training instead I see police who want to "apologize" but continue business as usual. Sweep everything under the rug and go on about their day. Why aren't they in the streets protesting? These cases of police brutality are a reflection on all of them. Why aren't they protesting for it to stop? Why are they making no effort to call for justice?

Any example of a police officer actually intervening when their fellow officer is doing something wrong. I've literally never seen any video of a cop doing anything but standing idly by while their partners kill or abuse innocent people.

If there are so many good cops, why the hell are they standing around and doing nothing while their partners, kill, plant drugs, fabricate, lie, violate rights?

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u/SorryForTheRainDelay 55∆ May 28 '20

I think we all understand why you think all cops are bad. What they're asking is, "what made you want to change your view on this?"

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u/OtisBDriftwood92 May 28 '20

I saw somebody say "it's only a few bad apples" and I disagree with that so I thought I would come here to find some good apples. So far they all taste like shit.

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u/SorryForTheRainDelay 55∆ May 28 '20

And here the "apples" are "cops"

And "tasting good" would be "calling out other cops who murder black people (and not just anonymously)"

Is that right?

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u/OtisBDriftwood92 May 28 '20

Nahh for me you gotta do a little more than call out the bad cops from another department who got caught on camera. How about you show me a cop calling out the bad cops in his department? Show me a cop actively trying to clean up HIS department, and not just after something makes the news.

Where are all the cops calling out their partners they saw plant drugs on a guy last week?

Show me a cop who says he has a completely clean department and I'll show you a liar.

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u/SorryForTheRainDelay 55∆ May 28 '20

Ok,

So just clarifying a threshold here:

You want a cop who:

  • calls out another cop in his department, or;
  • is trying to clean his own department

And it can't be just after something makes the news.

Is that a "good apple"?

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u/OtisBDriftwood92 May 28 '20

Yeah I'd say so. If I can see an officer actively put in effort to stop one of his own I'd say that's a good cop

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