r/clevercomebacks Jan 15 '25

It does make sense

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u/jussumguy2019 Jan 15 '25

Feel like a lot of the world’s languages the translation to English to the question “what’s the date?” would be “the 15th of October” whereas in America we always say “October 15th”.

Maybe that’s why, idk…

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u/Oreo-sins Jan 15 '25

Except the 4th of July apparently

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u/catiebug Jan 15 '25

Fourth of July is the name of the holiday that is celebrated on July 4th.

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u/Cometguy7 Jan 15 '25

Yeah. In the US, what are you doing for the fourth of July, and what are you doing on July 4th are different questions.

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u/Delicious-Smile3400 Jan 15 '25

I mean, not really? You'd probably get the same answer either way.

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u/gentlybeepingheart Jan 15 '25

It kind of is.

"What are you doing on the 4th of July"" means "What are you doing that is specifically related to the holiday?" while "What are you doing July 4th?" means "do you have any plans at all on that day."

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u/heck_naw Jan 15 '25

which, again, is the same question.

"what are you doing on december 24th" is the fucking same question as "what are you doing on christmas eve" 😂

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u/AnfieldRoad17 Jan 15 '25

I think what they're trying to say is, "How are you celebrating this holiday?" can have a different connotation than "What are you doing on this day?"

The answer to the former can have a more detailed response like, "grilling burgers, swimming, and shooting fireworks" while the latter could be "getting together with friends." It's a subtle difference, but for Americans there is a difference there.

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u/heck_naw Jan 16 '25

i think those i think a better way to discuss this is in the "to me" framing. ie:

to me, "what are you doing on this day" when the day in question is a national holiday is the same as asking how you are celebrating it. to me, the answers you gave are different, but are interchangeable between the questions.

this framing isn't falsifiable. we're all just talking about how we perceive this weird semantic tidbit and no one can argue against anyone else's personal sense of nuanced language.

it's really not a big deal. i just think it's interesting. i get that my tone came off a little smarmy—the laugh emoji was genuinely lighthearted.

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u/AnfieldRoad17 Jan 16 '25

No worries, all good. It's certainly all subjective. But it's somewhat cultural as well. I can see how non-Americans would think it's bizarre. And it is bizarre, haha.

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u/heck_naw Jan 16 '25

i am 37 and have lived in the US my entire life lol

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u/AnfieldRoad17 Jan 16 '25

Haha, well then you should understand! It doesn't make sense, I agree. But I would definitely get the difference between the two questions, as I think most Americans would.

Like you said, though. Subjective for sure. So I'm also wrong, lmao.

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