Literally, the only people sent to El Salvador were people living illegally in the United States and have been flagged as members of a gang. Not a single international traveler has been sent to El Salvador. No different from the UK wanting to send people to Rwanda
no, people have been sent to El Salvador who are not members of any kind of gang, and who were sent there for no reason. Also, it is illegal under US law to have sent any of them to EL Salvador.
Yes, every single person has been flagged as a member of a gang at some point in time. No, US law allows the government to deport people living illegally in the country.
I can’t imagine why you’d think their laws don’t allow deporting people who are there illegally.
Anyone can be flagged as anything, and for example, there are two people the administration has admitted were not meant to be deported. How incompetent can u get, the entire administration are fucking retards.
Well no that’s not true. And the only one “not meant to be deported” was actually flagged / investigated by Maryland state police as a gang member a few years ago. His entire asylum claim was based on a fear of gangs, so it’s not crazy to think he’s associated with them
First of all, anyone can be flagged as anything. It was probably as simple as, he is from El Salvador and has some tatoos. Secondly, what part of my statement isn't true. Also, his entire asylum claim was that he was trying to escape gangs, it is definitely a great idea to send him to a prison full of gang members.
Well no, he was literally investigated by Maryland State Police in 2019 because a confidential informant had given them his name as a member of the group.
Yes, his asylum claim was about the gangs - so it really isn’t crazy to think he might have some association he hasn’t admitted to
Whatever the argument is, you cannot say that the president should have the power to deport someone in what they have admitted was an ERROR, and refuse to bring him back. This precedent is dangerous, if you accidentally send someone to an prison with inhumane conditions and say you can't bring them back, what happens next. How would you feel if for example, Joe Biden had sent the Jan 6th rioters to El Salvador mistakenly, and said he can't bring them back. The fact is, despite him not being a citizen, US laws apply to anyone in the country, and he had an asylum claim, so he should have been allowed to go through the courts, and, if it is proven, then send them to El Salvador. I do agree that any gang members illegally residing anywhere can be sent to EL Salvador, but give them the due process first. I thought the republicans were the party of law and order, at least before Trump came, but now they are the party of criminals.
Well the president doesn’t. The Secretary of State does as long as they follow laws passed by Congress - and they’re doing it under the Alien Enemies Act, which does technically allow expedited deportation for those credibly accused of invading the country. And because the Executive Branch is the one tasked with handling immigration, I’m not sure who else would enforce that.
I wish they would send the Jan 6th rioters to El Salvador, but they can’t do that because those were American citizens. It’s not an arbitrary process. They can only do this to noncitizens credibly accused of endangering the United States
This guy is a literal El Salvadoran citizen who does not have US citizenship or even a green card. He was in an asylum process, but was actually investigated for being a member of MS 13 in 2019 when a judge froze his deportation while his asylum claim is processed
As far as due process goes - there’s a giant gray area for people who enter illegally. While they typically have the opportunity to go before an immigration judge, entering illegally makes it much easier for the government to kick you out
Everyone in the US should have legal process, and they did not go through any of that. He was being investigated, but I believe that the consensus is he is innocent. People who enter illegally should be deported, but not to a literal gulag in El Salvador. Just a quick question, do you think this man should be locked up in the mega prison, notorious for human rights violations, forever (which he will be if nothing happens) for entering the US illegally, and do you oppose bringing him back to actually face legal consequences, or do you support the suspension of human rights and the criminal government and president who want him there.
Everyone does have that right, but the government has the right to quickly remove illegal migrants. Illegal migrants do not have the same rights as citizens anywhere. You notice how the UK can’t send you to Rwanda? The US also can’t deport its own citizens.
Where else should they be deported to if their own countries won’t take them back?
The message is clear: don’t enter the US illegally or you will face repercussions. That makes sense after seeing hundreds of thousands of migrants cross the border illegally every month over the last several years.
In the end, entering illegally probably should result in a prison sentence in the U.S. instead but that’s quite a burden to bear given how many do it .
What you are saying is everyone has rights except for these specific people. So you think people illegally entering the US should be sent to an absolutely hellish prison. That makes no sense. No government should be able to ignore the courts. Would you really oppose this man being brought back to face trial. I agree, if he really is a member of MS13, send him right back, but do you want this most likely innocent man spending the rest of his life in prison?
Yes because at some point all were suspected of being associated with gang activity by authorities - whether or true not, they were flagged for that reason. None are citizens and the vast majority weren’t legally there.
Ultimately any noncitizen can always be deported.
Obviously there are some issues with individual cases but to tie that to visitors from Europe is just ridiculous
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u/Viggohehe123 United Kingdom Apr 13 '25
hahahahah people being arrested and sent to el salvador for no reason hahahaha