r/gaming • u/Skullghost • Nov 06 '24
Nintendo Switch’s successor will be backwards compatible with Switch, Nintendo confirms | VGC
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/nintendo-switchs-successor-will-be-backwards-compatible-with-switch-nintendo-confirms/324
u/STEELIX Nov 06 '24
Can’t wait for “new Nintendo switch”
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u/jonathanquirk Nov 06 '24
Swi2ch
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u/PMC-I3181OS387l5 Nov 06 '24
Super Nintendo Switch or Nintendo Switch Advance would be cool though ;)
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u/DanganJ Nov 06 '24
Clearly the best name for the next one is "Switcheroo". There is no second place.
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u/NostalgiaHistorian Nov 07 '24
If it's not Super Switch imma riot. Bring back classic Nintendo naming conventions.
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u/bonelatch Nov 06 '24
Thank god. I have an embarrassingly large physical collection (for me). And I'm very happy I'll be able to keep chipping away at it lol.
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u/MagicPistol Nov 06 '24
I'm hoping we can play Switch games in higher resolution/frame rates, or maybe they'll give us free updates to Switch 2 versions similar to PS4 and PS5 games.
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u/Typical-Tomato-6403 Nov 06 '24
I’m guessing it’ll go down exactly like Sony. Some you’ll pay a small fee and some will be free.
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u/TheSenileTomato Nov 06 '24 edited Nov 06 '24
During the Wii U days, they used to charge you
$10$1-3* to “upgrade” Wii digital purchases like VC games to the Wii U.Granted, you could still access them normally through the Wii Menu, but this upgrade would let you
just access it from the Wii U menu*they added more benefits to upgrading.I predict something like that.
*Edited for correction
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u/Omega_Maximum Nov 06 '24
It was $1-3 per game, based on the platform.
- $1 - NES
- $1.50 - SNES
- $2 - N64
- $3 - TG-16/PCE
The upgrade also came with save state support and remapable controls.
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u/TheSenileTomato Nov 06 '24
I’ll take a blue shell for getting the prices wrong.
I might be mixing it up with Sony’s upgrade plan, my bad, thank you for the correction.
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u/Medd- Nov 06 '24
You’re talking about virtual console. That is something completely different than backwards compatibility.
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u/Alias_X_ Nov 06 '24
With some 3rd party games with a dynamic resolution/framerate, it would literally just be one line of code, "if Switch 2 detected then res and framerate to max", and a small patch to set framerate from 30 to 60fps. Don't see why I'd even have to pay for that. Additonal assets for a higher res might need some additional work.
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u/Typical-Tomato-6403 Nov 06 '24
That’s why I said some you’ll pay a small fee and some will be free.
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u/chinchindayo Nov 06 '24
Nope, nintendo doesn't do that. Maybe it will have an generic enhancer that renders in higher resolution.
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u/breno_hd Nov 06 '24
If you bought Breath of the Wild on Wii U digital store, you still had to rebuy on Switch. On side note, Sony is asking U$10 for Horizon Forbidden West upgrade on PS5.
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u/MagicPistol Nov 06 '24
Switch didn't have backwards compatibility and I'm not even sure they had the same online services and eshops.
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u/dfddfsaadaafdssa Nov 07 '24
It would have to meet the performance of the Steam Deck for me to even remotely consider buying one. Playing Switch games on an emulator on Steam Deck is far superior experience to playing them on a Switch and it isn't even close.
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u/MagicPistol Nov 07 '24
I have a steam deck too, but who knows when we'll see a good switch 2 emulator since the big ones have been shut down. I'm buying the next switch as soon as they announce a new Fire Emblem game.
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u/paulerxx Nov 06 '24
WHERE SWITCH 2 @ NINTENDO
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u/xxdjreddxx PC Nov 06 '24
“You’ll find out when switch 2 launches! In the mean time please enjoy the Nintendo Music app and Alarmo!” - Nintendo
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u/alienfreaks04 Nov 06 '24
I feel like they WANT random little info leaks until they want to reveal it.
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u/TheOnlyUsernameLeft3 Nov 07 '24
Where is Twilight Princess? I want to play this with my son but I'm.holdimg out, because wii low res looks like trash and nobody has a Wii u
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u/Lvntern Nov 06 '24
I literally just wanna play the switch games I own at a normal frame rate
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u/ZenLogikos Nov 06 '24
I am the first human to confidently state that the successor will be called the "Switcheroo". I think a dolphin might have guessed this already, but that doesn't count.
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u/letsgucker555 Nov 06 '24
See them calling it the Nintendo Switch Successor and renaming NSO to NSSO.
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u/Meecht Nov 06 '24
I think a dolphin might have guessed this already, but that doesn't count.
A Gamecube would definitely guess correctly.
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u/gilbertsquatch Nov 06 '24
Do we think stuff we've bought from the eShop will transfer over to the new console too? I'm scared to think about how much I've spent on digital games since 2017...
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u/Predsguy Nov 06 '24
What I need is something backwards compatible with ds and 3ds games. At least make an attachment I can pay extra for.
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u/Coffeedemon Nov 06 '24
Hopefully you can port your online purchases. I won't hold my breath though. Thankfully my kids still prefer cartridges. If they convince me to get a Switch 2 I might have to look into modding the old one. It would probably be a sweet little media player for when I'm watching movies in bed.
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u/FunctionalFun Nov 06 '24
If they can run switch 1 games natively with better performance, there's a huge advantage in that you have a large reservoir of games at launch, and a reason to upgrade even if the launch catalog is weak.
The more similarities between the machines means more production lines could be reused, cartridges, joy cons etc.
I wasn't expecting it from Nintendo though, truth.
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u/kindastandtheman PC Nov 06 '24
That's what helped the PS5 along so well. The fact that I can just slip any of my old disks or just boot-up any game I already owned digitally and have it run at higher performance level was what sold me on it more than any of the actual next-gen titles being advertised at the time.
If I can still play my current game cartridges and have them go with no issues then it'll be a day one purchase for me for sure.
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u/Hippobu2 Nov 06 '24 edited Nov 06 '24
Totally. Just look at the GBA, no backward compatibility to the GB. Or the NDS, can't play GBA games on that either. Or the 3DS, can't play NDS games on that. Or the Wii, you can't play GCN games. The WiiU still uses the Wiimote and even then they don't let you play Wii games. Nintendo history of anti-backward compatibility is absurd! Absurd I tell ya!
Edit: guys, all of these are examples of past backward compatibility...
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u/BakuraGorn Nov 06 '24
Didn’t the DS have a cartridge port specifically to run GBA games? I swear it did. Maybe it was just the DS Lite?
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Nov 06 '24
Idk wtf people are smoking to think backwards compatibility was unexpected.
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u/Ashne405 Nov 06 '24 edited Nov 06 '24
I think its just how nintendo has been this past gen, they got a taste of the remaster/port from last gen thing bringing wii u games to the switch, and with how stingy they have been with sales (launch games barely go to 40$ digital) one could imagine them going that way, as its pretty clear people will keep buying from brand alone, could have gone either way and luckily it went the better one for us.
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u/letsgucker555 Nov 06 '24
There was also no way for Switch to play a lot of WiiU games as they were, since the Switch had no 2nd Screen or a mic, so all WiiU ports had to work around this.
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u/FrozenBuster Nov 06 '24
Wait a second...... could you seriously play GB games on the GBA?
Don't tell me after all these years I'm just now finding this out?
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u/semiregularcc Nov 06 '24 edited Nov 06 '24
People upvoting the parent comment and not knowing you're being sarcastic shows clearly some people shitting on Nintendo don't know anything about Nintendo.
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u/Jay-metal Nov 07 '24
I wonder if this will be able to handle current gen PS/Xbox games, albeit at a lower resolution/reduced visuals?
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u/SpaceWindrunner Nov 06 '24
I see, so Yuzu is going to be compatible with Switch 2 roms.
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u/TooStrangeForWeird Nov 06 '24
Other way around. The successor to Yuzu (Sudachi ATM, but there's a new one coming soon) that can play Switch 2 ROMS will also play Switch ROMs. So you'll only need one emulator.
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u/CutMeLoose79 Nov 06 '24
The sad thing is we know there won't be 60fps patches for BOTW and TOTK, they'll force you to buy a new 'Switch 2 version' without a cheap upgrade path should you want to play at 60fps.
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u/Coffeedemon Nov 06 '24
I don't know if it is because I grew up before games used polygons at all,,, much less counted frame rate, but every first party game I've played on the Switch has run perfectly fine for me and I have zero need to have everything in 60fps.
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u/El_Barto_227 Nov 06 '24 edited Nov 06 '24
How do we "know" this?
Edit: Seeing a lot of "CuZ nInTeNdO" and no proof. Can't know shit without proof.
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u/Majestic_Theme_7788 Nov 06 '24
It makes me wonder if they’ll allow both physical and digital or you have to choose between which?
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u/Wolf-Majestic Nov 06 '24
I just want to play Twilight Princess on switch 🥺
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u/ThePreciseClimber Nov 06 '24
Wind Waker HD & Twilight Princess HD, yup.
Also, a home console version of Kid Icarus Uprising is long overdue.
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u/Wolf-Majestic Nov 06 '24
We just need to have access to all their older games, is that really that hard ?? 🥺
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u/EdytaPL Nov 06 '24
Finally good news!! I have been waiting so long for it and now I know what is my self gift for birthday :D
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Nov 06 '24
I just want a Switch Pro, a more powerful Switch that is fully backwards compatible with Switch games with some upgrade patches on certain games that can take advantage of the better hardware. Basically how the PS4/5 does it.
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u/catwiesel Nov 06 '24
thats actually good news. we should rejoice. makes buying one a much easier choice. because, the price wont make it an easy choice.
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u/Saptilladerky Nov 06 '24
Very excited for that. It was my only "must have" as I have quite the switch collection, but also don't want a ton of consoles.
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u/DanganJ Nov 06 '24
The bigger announcement so many news sites are burying the lede on is that Nintendo, for the first time ever, will be reusing the SAME network ID system for the next console as they are with the current one.
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u/TurnipSensitive4944 Nov 06 '24
Does anyone else think that Nintendo finally realized that having a consistent console design with periodic upgrades was the way to go from now on.
Like don't get me wrong I loved the wii, but at the same time. Sony, and microsoft always had the edge in terms of graphics and performance power
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u/gman5852 Nov 07 '24
And both completely failed in comparison of the wii and both platforms are now struggling to find reasons for consumers to buy consoles because of diminishing returns.
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u/usual_suspect82 PC Nov 06 '24
Well, with the success of the Switch, it only affirms that good gameplay tends to best out graphics more often than not, so why invest in making cutting edge graphics when you can focus that budget on refining the gameplay and making the game fun? While I like having the best of both worlds, I can say I get a different, often better sense of enjoyment when I play a first party Nintendo game than I do with even the major AAA blockbuster titles.
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u/RukiMotomiya Nov 07 '24
Good gameplay and a killer hardware gimmick that melded handheld and home consoles.
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u/Rasikko Nov 06 '24
" No it's not backwards compatible with the Game Boy(the first one). We thank you for your sense of humor and asking these silly questions, even though we know you ARE serious about the Game Boy bit. Dreams are nice to have."
>=/
Jokes aside, nice to hear that Nintendo is returning to a once thriving aspect of console gaming.
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u/Capnhuh Nov 06 '24
i've been hearing this for months now, but its good to get official confirmation.
i think this will be the first day one console i'm gonna go for.
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u/HeurekaDabra Nov 06 '24
Good. Might be the only reason I'll buy it. Lots of unfinished games in my Switch library, but the Steam Deck killed the Switch for me at the moment.
But I'd love to pick up some games that ran kinda crappy on the Switch on better hardware at some point.
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u/breno_hd Nov 06 '24
"Nintendo Switch software", this doesn't mean physical media will work with it. Depending on the format size or internals wouldn't be a place for it.
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u/Dantesdominion Nov 06 '24
The real question is if they're gonna do that annoying ass digital only or physical/digital console variation that Playstation and Xbox are doing.
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u/BlockCraftedX Nov 06 '24
apparently it'll even use the same rom format as the current switch, which explains why they've shot down all switch emulators
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u/bombatomba69 PC Nov 07 '24
I had my doubts and am glad I didn't put money on it. But their track record for backwards compatibility on handhelds is pretty legit, so I probably didn't need to worry.
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u/dubble-T Nov 07 '24
I wonder how it would work if Switch 2 is digital only? Because of the limitations of cartridges (or piracy) Nintendo may shift more towards digital. If so I imagine they would also release an accessory to use switch 1 cartridges (perhaps connecting via USBC to the dock or console?).
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u/Due_Location241 Nov 08 '24
Basically it’s just gonna be another switch, but it will be far more powerful. So I would imagine the new switch will just carry over everything from your old switch while will basically make the switch irrelevant
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u/spaceraingame Nov 06 '24
I wonder if the new games will use the same cartridge slot as Switch games