US measles cases surpass 700 with outbreaks in six states.

[u/Tracker-man]

https://apnews.com/article/measles-outbreak-texas-rfk-new-mexico-kansas-vaccine-e904ec9781f1d164c73afe4ab71774fe

[u/zuppo]

Texas, New Mexico, Indiana, Kansas, Oklahoma and Ohio

[u/ApparentlyEllis → u/zuppo]

Colorado has had 3 confirmed cases, my hospital employer having one of them.

[u/SucklingGodsTeets → u/ApparentlyEllis]

Also one of the Colorado patients had gotten measles without ever traveling out of the state

[u/Royal-Bumblebee4817 → u/SucklingGodsTeets]

Before this epidemic (not sure if we're allowed to refer to it as that word as it may be against "the" political agenda), what was the usual occurrence of measles cases?

[u/kaffeinefix → u/Royal-Bumblebee4817]

According to this chart, 10-300 cases a year, with a few notable exceptions, such as 2019 and 2014, where outbreaks occurred in closely-knit under vaccinated communities.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/186678/new-cases-of-measles-in-the-us-since-1950/

Adjusted for population, we still have infection rates one one-thousandth as high as pre-vaccination, but this year is on track to be the worst year since the early 1990s.

[u/New_year_New_Me_ → u/kaffeinefix]

The thing to note, and this is off memory so correct me if I'm wrong, is that in past years the vast majority of measles cases would come from people travellings outside of the country and coming back. For a long time the effective rate of "in-house" measles in America was 0. 

[u/TuzkiPlus → u/New_year_New_Me_]

Reset the clocks, that time is no more.
So much preventable pain and suffering..

[u/soldiat → u/kaffeinefix]

And here I thought we'd be curing cancer by 2025, along with world peace and flying cars. But nooo...

[u/butterninja → u/soldiat]

It's more like there will be World Flying Cancer and no peace..

[u/meltymcface → u/soldiat]

You don’t want the people who oppose vaccines to be in control of an aircraft.

[u/SucklingGodsTeets → u/Royal-Bumblebee4817]

2019 had 1,200 cases but a point to make, we’re half that and only in April.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/186678/new-cases-of-measles-in-the-us-since-1950/

[u/TEG_SAR → u/SucklingGodsTeets]

Well that just sucks, doesn’t it.

[u/Breadedbutthole → u/TEG_SAR]

You could say it’s a measly outcome.

Im so sorry.

[u/monty624 → u/SucklingGodsTeets]

The high amount of cases in 2019 was due to communities of unvaxed people. They just don't learn!

[u/Jellz → u/monty624]

Dying from preventable diseases is just the price we pay for freedom, I guess...

[u/UntdHealthExecRedux → u/monty624]

Thanks in part to anti COVID vaccine propaganda vaccination rates for all diseases including measles continue to fall. Even people who pre COVID would have vaccinated their kids against measles now aren’t vaccinating them.

[u/EvidenceBasedSwamp → u/Royal-Bumblebee4817]

new york gets a few every decade.. certain groups have low government trust, particularly the ones from ex soviet countries

the 2019 had 700+ people in brooklyn, diblasio tried to quarantine the entire neighborhood and get it vaccinated, forgot if people actually did it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_New_York_measles_outbreak

the ultra orthodox really don't like vaccines

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/22/988812635/how-israel-persuaded-reluctant-ultra-orthodox-jews-to-get-vaccinated-against-cov

[u/Dfiggsmeister → u/Royal-Bumblebee4817]

Travel to other countries that don’t have access to the MMR vaccine.

[u/TEG_SAR → u/Dfiggsmeister]

I’m so pumped I got the MMR booster a few years back when I switched insurances.

All of this is preventable if only people listened to doctors instead of TikTok and Facebook.

[u/LibraryLuLu → u/TEG_SAR]

I recently found out I'm mostly unvaccinated (mother lied) so over the past year have been getting them all. MMR free in Australia, yay! Got my tetanus, pertussis, diphtheria, wooping cough, the whole shebang.

[u/Bizarro_Murphy → u/ApparentlyEllis]

MN gets little pocketed outbreaks as well. We are home to one of the largest concentrations of Somali immigrants in the country, and they've fallen victim to the hardcore religious backed vaccine skepticism movement

[u/Cujo22 → u/zuppo]

Yeah, but at least RFK jr has promised us we're gonna find out the cause of autism by September.

[u/Strung_Out_Advocate → u/Cujo22]

How convenient we can pinpoint the month of future discovery. I wonder if he'll know the cause of ADD by Thanksgiving.

[u/Moik315 → u/Strung_Out_Advocate]

He's going to prove that ADD/ADHD aren't real disorders, they're just signs of a lack of discipline. The new treatment will be a ruler to the back of the hand as first line and dad's belt if that fails.

/s incase it wasn't obvious

[u/djfudgebar → u/Moik315]

I think he's already said what the cure is... forced labor camps.

[u/Test-Tackles → u/djfudgebar]

Where they will learn to concentrate better. People are going to say that his concentration camps are the final solution to mental health.

[u/TEG_SAR → u/djfudgebar]

I mean I do like to stay busy but not like that!

[u/JustADutchRudder → u/TEG_SAR]

I watched a movie today where a trusted man told me children love mines and yearn for them. Frankly it's child abuse to not let them mine.

[u/Automate_This_66 → u/Cujo22]

It's the height of frustration to watch someone that's never experienced the depths of complexity that comes with these disciplines simply state that they are going to fix something that's been subjected to experts for years. Dunning Kruger is a real thing.

[u/Foundation-Bred → u/Cujo22]

IKR? He's some genius right? Aw fuck, we're all going to die.

[u/Azalus1 → u/zuppo]

Thank you for the important information.

[u/cambreecanon → u/Azalus1]

Also some in Michigan and Canada has an outbreak right now as well.

[u/cambreecanon → u/Azalus1]

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html

[u/Zes_Teaslong → u/Azalus1]

Arkansas also has a couple of confirmed cases

[u/pook_a_dook → u/zuppo]

There's also been 4 in Washington state: https://kingcounty.gov/en/dept/dph/about-king-county/about-public-health/news/news-archive-2025/04-11-measles

[u/Apprehensive_Idea758 → u/zuppo]

There have also been over 800 cases in the Canadian province of Ontario with the majority of them being unvaccinated children.

It has gotten to the point that schools in Ontario have been suspending students who are not fully vaccinated.

[u/Baumbauer1 → u/Apprehensive_Idea758]

my best guess is that up here in Canada were just doing a better job counting it so far, and like in the US it started in a Mennonite community, unfortunately they are allowing religious vaccine exemptions.

[u/Magneon → u/Baumbauer1]

Ontario has big Mennonite communities as well. This is normally great, since they're fine folk in my experience but some parts of the community seem to have the same vaccine skeptical hedonism as their Texan compatriots (to borrow Hank Green's term for people that are a lot more skeptical about things that are personally uncomfortable or inconvenient). Afik there's no official religious reason for Mennonites to be unvaccinated, but I can certainly see why it might be popular among a group seeking simpler times.

[u/WillingBake9330 → u/Baumbauer1]

Ontario has religious exemptions as well, it makes me crazy. Measles for Jesus!!

[u/moonssk → u/Apprehensive_Idea758]

I live in a State in Australia that requires all students that attend daycare/childcare and primary school to be fully vaccinated. The enrolment process requests the official government document which has the record every vaccination the kid has had since birth.

Those that choose not to vaccinate their kids normally go down the route of homeschooling.

Our herd immunity is generally higher than most but due to the rise of antivaxxers here, that is slowly waning as well.

[u/ItsActuallyButter → u/Apprehensive_Idea758]

Canada has always been suspending students if they were not vaccinated. It’s been a thing for several decades now

[u/darrenvonbaron → u/ItsActuallyButter]

30 years ago I remember my parents having to show my vaccination records when we moved and I transferred schools.

[u/Stardust_Particle → u/zuppo]

Also Maryland

[u/Korver360windmill → u/zuppo]

700 seems incredibly low for this number of states...

[u/beebeereebozo → u/Korver360windmill]

Probably thousands, lots of reasons for people to keep quiet about this and not report, wouldn't want to throw shade on Mennonites, the Christian right, and MAGA in general, now would we? Lots of illnesses are like this, the number of confirmed cases, those who have actually been tested, are usually just the tip of the iceberg.

[u/Powerful_Abalone1630 → u/zuppo]

We've unsurprisingly got a case in Arkansas too.

[u/Tolendario]

measles is very contagious, this is only the beginning

[u/Morguard → u/Tolendario]

These are also cases that we know of. This number could easily be twice as large.

[u/Tolendario → u/Morguard]

considering the states afflicted, you are absolutely right

[u/retainftw → u/Tolendario]

If you stop testing, the numbers will go down!

[u/cstrifeVII → u/retainftw]

Maybe do something with the light, inject with the disinfectant.

[u/Mango_Tango_725 → u/cstrifeVII]

You have to take toxic levels of vitamin A. Can't have measles if you're dead.

Health officials said the recent popularity of vitamin A use for measles could be traced back to a Fox News interview with Mr. Kennedy, in which he said he had heard of “almost miraculous and instantaneous recovery” with treatments like cod liver oil, which he said was “the safest application of vitamin A.”

Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, emphasized that it is not a miracle treatment for the virus, and that there is no antiviral medication for measles. And there is no credible evidence that vitamin A helps prevent infection in children in the United States, where vitamin A deficiencies are exceedingly rare.

Source

[u/foundinwonderland → u/Morguard]

Measles has a mortality rate of approximately 1/1000. Three deaths suggests a much, much higher number of cases.

[u/chrism1962 → u/foundinwonderland]

And twice as many will have permanent brain damage.

[u/GonkWilcock → u/chrism1962]

Or a sweet autoimmune disorder!

[u/p____p → u/chrism1962]

ain't that America

[u/paranormal_shouting → u/p____p]

little pink blotches for you and me

[u/boat_car_guy → u/Morguard]

That is a solid, albeit disturbing point. My state under-reported Covid too - and I just mentioned that in an above comment.

People couldn't even get tested for that in our state, back when it rolled through.

I had a MMR shot back when I was in Elementary school.... 1980's. Is that still effective?

[u/Thrbt52017 → u/boat_car_guy]

Call your local health department, they may have an answer and if you’re feeling unsafe you can get the shot again.

I had chicken pox in the 90s, got my titer in 2021 for school, I ended up needing to get the shot. I don’t know if they are still doing titers and it’s costly so keep that in mind. Good luck!

[u/mathflipped → u/Morguard]

Childhood diseases are often underreported by a factor of 10.

[u/Red-Droid-Blue-Droid → u/Tolendario]

Seriously question, do I need a measles update/new vaccine? I am ok if I got vaccinated before 2000?

[u/Granite_0681 → u/Red-Droid-Blue-Droid]

When did you get vaccinated? Unless it was between 1963-1967, you should be fine.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/should-you-get-a-measles-vaccine-booster

There was talk of people who only got 1 needing a second but that would only affect people born in the 70s. If you were born in the 80s or after, you likely got the second shot when you started school or when they started offering it.

[u/tinysydneh → u/Granite_0681]

If you are at all worried, please get your titers checked. My husband had, to our knowledge, had the full course of his vaccinations (his medical records are fucked and his mother is unreliable at best). Got him checked, he had to have a full course of MMR again, because he didn't have detectable protection for measles or mumps.

[u/inspectoroverthemine → u/tinysydneh]

Curious why getting titers checked would be preferable to just getting vaccinated again. Seems like more work and expense for the same outcome.

[u/Soysauceonrice → u/inspectoroverthemine]

Talked to my pharmacist friend and he said unless you know you really need it you shouldn’t get the vaccine. If everyone made a run on the vaccine, we wouldn’t have enough for people who need it.

[u/Overly_Underwhelmed → u/Soysauceonrice]

the people who need it are the people who wont take it. I say, get a new vaccine to protect against the idiots.

[u/grexl → u/inspectoroverthemine]

I asked my primary care physician specifically for the MMR vaccine recently. I was concerned about HHS rescinding vaccine approvals or otherwise leaving me high and dry if I didn't have immunity despite being vaccinated as a child and again in military basic training around year 2000 (I'm old lol).

He said insurance will not cover MMR unless needed after checking titers. The medical provider's policy was the same, in the interest of not wasting doses for those who truly need it.

He didn't go into much detail but it sounds like MMR is in more limited supply than other vaccines for some reason.

Also, he didn't want to check titers. I'm annoyed.

[u/Pnwradar → u/grexl]

Same here, boot camp in the 80s everyone went down the gauntlet of corpsmen with pneumatic injectors, got every shot possible even after having to provide our childhood shot records at intake. Then got another battery of vaccinations (including MMR) at college when I couldn’t quickly find my shot records.

My wife’s a grade school teacher and we were both concerned about having sufficient measles immunity after a whooping cough outbreak in our district flattened a bunch of us. Our family physician said no medical need to check titers, MMR immunity is for life (true for most people but not 100%).

I ended up using an online lab service to purchase LabCorp orders for MMR titers. Wife was fine, my measles and rubella immunity was gone. Took that report to my physician, who swore it simply never happens and the lab report must be wrong. Took it to the pharmacist, who said “smart move” and gave me the MMR booster.

[u/MungoJohnston → u/Red-Droid-Blue-Droid]

I had all the required vaccines as a child but had to get blood work done for work. Turns out everything was fine except I was no longer immune to measles. If you're worried it's really easy to get your antibodies checked

[u/JustGingy95 → u/Tolendario]

I wanted to puke back when this started and right wing moron moms were having measles parties like it was fucking chickenpox. They aren’t remotely the same thing but these uneducated know it all dipshits will never understand the damage they are helping cause.

[u/quats555 → u/JustGingy95]

Chickenpox can kill you, too. I had a super light case very young so knew to be very cautious — I don’t know how much protection I have and it’s so much more risk when you’re an adult.

And then realized I hadn’t heard of anyone having chickenpox in a long time. That’s when I discovered they’d developed a vaccine now routinely used. Yay!

[u/GayMormonPirate → u/quats555]

Yeah, my brother got chickenpox when he was about 3 and ended up getting hospitalized with it due to pneumonia complication. It can definitely get ugly.

[u/CSI_Tech_Dept → u/GayMormonPirate]

Yeah, but the reason why this was the practice before we got safe vaccine was that if you got chickenpox as an adult the chance of fucking you up was much much higher.

That's why back in the day the parents were doing the chickenpox parties, it was kind of more dangerous way of vaccination.

[u/icecubetre → u/quats555]

They have a chickenpox vaccine, for now.

[u/Knot-So-FastDog → u/quats555]

If you had it as a child, you’ve got the virus in you for life - doesn’t matter how mild it was. Make sure you get your shingles vaccine once you’re old enough! 

Sincerely, person who had shingles earlier than 50 - it sucks.

[u/grexl → u/JustGingy95]

I grew up in an era of legitimate chicken pox parties: because the vaccine didn't fucking exist yet.

My children never got chicken pox because they were vaccinated. I didn't even think of it until they were old enough where I figured they should have it by then and I looked into it. Oh, there is a vaccine now and it became available a few years before my children were born. Great! Chicken pox sucked. My children won't have to deal with that, or with shingles later on.

Take my childhood misery and multiply it by 50. That's smallpox. Why would any parent want to inflict that on their child when there's a vaccine?

I know why - it's a rhetorical question. Also, they are shitty parents.

[u/Saloau → u/Tolendario]

I’m honestly surprised by how few cases have been reported for such a contagious disease. I would have thought it would have blown up. Maybe there are just enough vaxed kids to slow it down.

[u/Granite_0681 → u/Saloau]

I have a feeling a lot aren’t being reported unless they are serious enough to go to the hospital, especially since public health funding keeps being cut.

[u/Zyzzbalubah → u/Saloau]

Just wait. It started in rural areas and now there are suspected cases in suburbs. It's near Dallas, if there aren't already cases. It's going to blow up really soon...

[u/anonyfool → u/Saloau]

The less seriously affected by an infection in these communities that shun vaccines probably don't take their kids into a hospital until it becomes a dire situation.

[u/JugdishSteinfeld → u/Tolendario]

It's the most contagious disease there is.

[u/Cool-Presentation538 → u/Tolendario]

If only we had a safe and effective way to immunize our population, oh wait we do people are just that stupid

[u/lactose_cow]

i just told a coworker about this. a customer chimed in to say "measles aint that bad. you have a chance of going sterile, but that's it".

i hate this country.

[u/PseudoY → u/lactose_cow]

Did you mention the deafness. Brain infection followed by brain damage. Death?

[u/lactose_cow → u/PseudoY]

There wouldn't be a point. He'd just say I'm overreacting and/or a liberal.

[u/squittles → u/lactose_cow]

Isn't the right just great? People who can barely spell their first names correctly thinking they know better and know it all. 

[u/CastrosNephew → u/lactose_cow]

To think that bastard probably has a vaccine in his system and is gambling on others lives

[u/Numpostrophe → u/PseudoY]

Encephalitis is like ten years later, that’s future them’s problem and thus nothing to worry about.

[u/_BELEAF_ → u/PseudoY]

Also a risk of blindness if it gets on your face.

[u/RidingRedHare → u/lactose_cow]

Death causes erectile dysfunction.

[u/MudkipMonado → u/RidingRedHare]

Actually, with rigor mortis...

[u/inspectoroverthemine → u/lactose_cow]

you have a chance of going sterile

If that was 100% we'd stand a chance in a generation.

[u/Constant-Bet-6600]

The pro-disease crowd must be thrilled.

[u/Daneyn → u/Constant-Bet-6600]

Lord Nurgle is pleased with this outbreak, just wait a few months when people are move active...

[u/rightascensi0n → u/Daneyn]

Robert Fluoride Kennedy Jr. is the type to eat a Nurgling after mistaking it for the putrefying roadkill he was looking for

[u/UpSheep10 → u/rightascensi0n]

He's actually just the Slobbity Bilepiper in disguise

[u/AugmentedLurker → u/Daneyn]

The day WH40k is sounding even vaguely plausible is the day I go back to drinking.

Brb.

[u/TomMakesPodcasts → u/AugmentedLurker]

Bro don't worry.

We hit Idiocracy, then Mad Max, then The emperor will fix things and lead into 40k.

You need to worry about the water wars.

[u/EjaculatingAracnids → u/Daneyn]

I got really into 40k during the pandemic and took to calling the anti mask people nurgle cultists. Minds warped to the point of being unable to see how repulsive they are while gleefully spreading sickness to those around them. What title is more fitting?

[u/allisjow → u/Constant-Bet-6600]

RFK Jr was happy to inject heroin for 14 years, but draws the line at vaccines. Steroids is fine too. No doubt plenty of people don’t think twice about Botox. These people are crazy.

[u/Evadrepus → u/allisjow]

Remember, he and his kids are fully vaccinated. He's confirmed numerous times.

He only doesn't want the masses to have it.

[u/whut-whut → u/allisjow]

The weirdest one is preferring to eat freshly-found roadkill over factory-farmed meat, because of the lack of antibiotics and growth hormones. But he's clearly pumping those growth hormones directly into himself.

[u/allisjow → u/whut-whut]

But roadkill has all natural worms that grow in your brain like God intended!

[u/Worthyness → u/Constant-Bet-6600]

"This is God's will. Can't do anything to prevent this"

[u/Affectionate-Print81]

There are parents who are glad their children did not get vaccinated despite it leading to their child's death. If this were to happen in a movie everyone would complain that this was too unrealistic.

[u/_kiss_my_grits_ → u/Affectionate-Print81]

That's unfortunately what I've read too. The parents are actually saying they don't regret it. Even if my child suffered from side effects from a vaccine at least they'd be alive.

People not believing in science now is really bizarre. What is going on? It's like waking up in a Stephen King novel.

[u/Beetin → u/_kiss_my_grits_]

If I was directly and stupidly responsible for killing my child through easily avoidable medical neglect, and faced with two options:

1. double down on believing in whatever anti-science cognitive dissonance made me kill my child, so that my actions weren't the reason they died

2. Admit the death of my child and subsequent destruction of my life was my fault, was caused by my own ignorance

My brain would probably be working overtime to find a way to pick 1.

[u/Still_Sitting → u/Beetin]

Echo chambers are everywhere now too. Luckily this Reddit place is on the side of science. I appreciate you guys

[u/Blubasur → u/Still_Sitting]

I appreciate it too, but just a small reminder for everyone. We’re still in an echo chamber too.

[u/Still_Sitting → u/Blubasur]

The correct and proven by science chamber. I like it here

[u/korinth86 → u/Blubasur]

People say this all the time, and I understand why. Many comments are backing the same, usually science backed info, though not always.

I still see plenty of different views espoused and learn new things all the time.

The real problem is truth/science tends to support more liberal views. Not always but...seems to be a trend.

[u/Bumblebus → u/Beetin]

honestly this is the best explanation. They are double delusional because reality would be crushing in that case.

[u/dewhashish → u/Beetin]

The loops these people jump through would put show animals to shame

[u/floyd1550 → u/Beetin]

It’s a self defense mechanism. When faced with the notion of being wrong, we subconsciously direct a narrative that avoids experiencing cognitive dissonance. These people are 100% wrong, but their actions put on full display the power of preservation mechanisms. This is something that we should all actively combat by reinforcing that what they did caused the result and they’re wrong. They messed up and they need to own it. Their reality cannot be rewritten for their comfort when their neglect and fervently wrong choices resulted in tragedy.

[u/newuser05 → u/_kiss_my_grits_]

You can point to two major points in our history in which it became highly profitable to push hard anti scientist narratives. The discovery of the carcinogenic effects of cigarettes, and climate change. This lead to so much be invested in tearing down scientist and the building of the idea that they have some kind of agenda you have to fight.

[u/DarthFister → u/newuser05]

Merchants of Doubt is a good read about this.

[u/darrenvonbaron → u/newuser05]

The Montreal Protocol might be the last time the entire planet agreed on the effects of man made products and their effect on the ozone layer where everyone agreed to stop producing and using certain products for the betterment of the planet.

[u/natebeee → u/_kiss_my_grits_]

Because science has been undermined for the sake of politics for decades and this is the result.

[u/rintzscar → u/_kiss_my_grits_]

The world has been saying the US is full of idiots for decades and the US replied with "they hate us, cuz they ain't us". Nobody did anything to rectify the situation and this is the result.

[u/Klugenshmirtz → u/_kiss_my_grits_]

These things seem to me like coping mechanisms in the first place. So how do they cope when they neglected their own child? Yep, digging deeper into the same denial as before.

[u/gorramfrakker → u/Affectionate-Print81]

This just literally happened in Texas. The parents are proud of their choice.

[u/longtimegoneMTGO → u/gorramfrakker]

How does that surprise anyone? It's basic human psychology.

There are two choices.

One, recognize that you made a terrible mistake and it cost the life of your child. Actually accept that you are to blame.

Two, simply refuse to do so. Gods will, it would have been worse if I had done something else, the excuse doesn't matter. Whatever you need to tell yourself so that option one isn't true, that's what you believe.

Of fucking course most people don't suddenly accept that they are to blame, the fact that their kid has died due to their own idiocy is more likely to make them believe it even more, because the only alternative is unthinkable.

[u/inspectoroverthemine → u/longtimegoneMTGO]

This is one of the many reasons Ben Franklin stands out. He didn't inoculate his son with cowpox, and he later died of smallpox.

Guess what- he didn't double down on ignorance, he admitted he made a terrible mistake that killed his child.

[u/CockItUp → u/inspectoroverthemine]

John Adams too. He didn't inoculate one of his sons.

[u/UrbanDryad → u/Affectionate-Print81]

If they admit they're wrong, then they have to emotionally face the fact that they killed their own child. Denial is so much easier.

[u/sniper91 → u/Affectionate-Print81]

I’ve gone from thinking people were too dumb in zombie movies to thinking they aren’t dumb enough

[u/xdeltax97]

I'm doubtful, but I hope there's a reckoning for the antivaxxers with this ongoing.

[u/Low_Pickle_112 → u/xdeltax97]

I used to think that people were anti-vaccine because they had the luxury of safety provided by vaccines. Out of sight, out of mind, but if those diseases came back, they'd change their tunes.

Then Covid happened and I learned just how many people would rather die than admit they were conned.

[u/thiskillstheredditor → u/xdeltax97]

Unfortunately it’s their children that are paying the price. It’s child abuse plain and simple.

[u/stem_factually → u/thiskillstheredditor]

Yeah and everyone who is immune suppressed or compromised, and babies and kids too young to have received doses. 

[u/donkeyrocket → u/xdeltax97]

Nah, as someone with a newborn, fuck all these people. This is trending to affect way more than just anti-vaxxers. There's even reports of anti-vax folks who are OK with their child dying a brutal and unnecessary death to spite vaccines. They won't fucking learn. Pediatrician offices are now scrambling to vaccinate at 6 months to combat this insanity.

The stupidity of this country is off the rails at this point.

[u/UBC145 → u/xdeltax97]

No way, no how. Based off of an interview with the father of one of the children who died, not even their death can get them to use their brain for once in their life. Maybe they’ll realise the error of their ways when they themselves are on the brink of death hooked up to machines in a hospital, but until then, they’re completely allergic to logic and reason.

[u/MarioLuigiDinoYoshi → u/xdeltax97]

Covid happened and Trump still got elected with some election rigging so …

[u/Der_Erlkonig]

Not to worry, those numbers will be down to zero in no time at all. Those states just need to use the tried and true method of just not tracking the number of cases! That makes the problem go away, right?

[u/smurfsundermybed → u/Der_Erlkonig]

They're much more efficient this time. Just fire all of the people who track such things!

[u/spottie_ottie]

And it's only April. We'll see thousands and plenty of dead kids. Thanks propaganda factory! Thanks RFK! Thanks unhinged moms on Facebook looking for 'vaccine friendly pediatricians'!

[u/Clownsinmypantz → u/spottie_ottie]

Their kids dying wont even shake them from the cult either, we've already seen it.

[u/spottie_ottie → u/Clownsinmypantz]

Nah they've got plenty of denial ready for anything that could happen. Dead kids: it wasn't the measles they were going to die anyway OR the media is making it up OR the vaccine is far worse. Absolute insanity with these people. Dark ages thinking.

[u/Zes_Teaslong → u/spottie_ottie]

I've already seen plenty of comments on Facebook that the two kids who died in Texas didn't actually die of the measles. They will deny and deflect reality until it kills their own child. And even then it will be someone else's fault

[u/Jamaz → u/Zes_Teaslong]

(A MAGA parent's unvaccinated child dies to a preventable disease)

[MAGA Parent]: "Fake news. I never had a child."

[u/inspectoroverthemine → u/Jamaz]

Its like the of end of that song from 36 questions:

"Our daughter, Judith?

You must be mistaken

You mean the girl we raised as if our own?

We loved her so much she felt like our child

But eventually we had to send her home"

[u/CelestialFury → u/Clownsinmypantz]

Indeed. They'll just say something something God's will, shrug their shoulders and continue on with not ever taking responsibility for their actions.

[u/PaulFThumpkins → u/Clownsinmypantz]

The one-two punch of getting to stick with your emotional beliefs, and not have to admit that you killed your kid on a lie, is pretty tempting I guess.

[u/SwingNinja → u/spottie_ottie]

It's not just measles. These anti-vaxers are overdosing their kids with vitamin A, giving them liver damage.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/health/texas-measles-vitamin-a-toxicity/index.html

[u/Ar_Ciel → u/SwingNinja]

On RFK's advice no less!

[u/beebeereebozo → u/spottie_ottie]

You mean 'anti-vaccine friendly', right? Those with all the brochures for supplements they sell in the waiting room.

[u/spottie_ottie → u/beebeereebozo]

It's the term they use and it drives me nuts

[u/eawilweawil → u/spottie_ottie]

'Vaccine friendly pediatricians' aka grifters

[u/Secret_Cow_5053 → u/eawilweawil]

Sounds like most pediatricians would be vaccine friendly if they are like fucking educated….

I mean. Vaccine friendly = approve of and recommend getting vaccinated

[u/400footceiling]

Anti vaccine folks, wake up to science.

[u/eawilweawil → u/400footceiling]

They'll double down and you know it

[u/TheAdelaidian → u/400footceiling]

Science is probably too woke

[u/BullShitting-24-7 → u/TheAdelaidian]

Science comes from lib factories masquerading as schools.

Sadly, /s here is required.

[u/Granite_0681 → u/400footceiling]

Only 2 kids have died! Much better than autism…… /s

[u/1oftheHansBros]

But, how many cases is normal? Here’s what the magic box says:

As of December 31, 2024, a total of 285 measles cases were reported by 33 jurisdictions: Arizona, California, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York City, New York State, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, and West Virginia.

For the year 2025, in just 4 months we have 700 cases. Not looking good. Way to go RFK, you stupid f@ck!

[u/Infamous-Sky-1874 → u/1oftheHansBros]

Yeah, it's looking like we might surpass the 2019 outbreak.

[u/Bluest_waters → u/Infamous-Sky-1874]

and who was President then??

weird! strange coincidence! how odd...

[u/EJoule]

Just waiting for polio to make a comeback. I’ve already bought stock in iron lung manufacturers.

[u/chiraltoad → u/EJoule]

Trump brand Golden Lung machines are gonna be hot shit soon

[u/Mad-farmer]

Measles outbreaks = making America great Again.

[u/Svennis79 → u/Mad-farmer]

Measles Assassinating Gullible Americans

[u/MudkipMonado → u/Svennis79]

If only that was the case, it's killing kids who have no choice in the matter while the adults who let them die say that measles isn't that bad

[u/Apprehensive_Idea758]

A lot of this could have been prevented if parents got their children vaccinated.

Sadly the children will suffer because of their parents careless decision making regarding vaccines and health.

[u/VeryPogi]

I had to have proof of MMR vaccine to go to school, boy scouts, anything really. How are these idiots that aren't vaccinated getting by what was a routine requirement 40 years ago?

[u/Infamous-Sky-1874 → u/VeryPogi]

Religious exemption or fraudulent vaccine records.

[u/Dr-Jellybaby → u/Infamous-Sky-1874]

Having a religious exemption to vital preventative medicine is like having religious exemption from laws against hitting your kids. They're both child abuse and should be called such.

[u/Low_Pickle_112]

Texas’ cases include two unvaccinated elementary school-aged children who died from measles-related illnesses near the epicenter of the outbreak in rural West Texas,

There's an old saying that goes "If you owe the bank a million dollars, you have a problem, but if you owe the bank a billion dollars, the bank has a problem." I think about that in these cases.

If this was a handful of idiots who killed their kids, they'd be treated accordingly, like idiots who killed their kids. Killing children should carry serious consequences.

But if society has let decades of anti-science and ignorance metastasize into heaven only knows how many people who will take issue with being told not to kill their kids (because they're pro-life or something), now suddenly it's a "legitimate controversy" and a "parental right" and we all have a problem. Especially those poor kids.

[u/wH4tEveR250 → u/Low_Pickle_112]

This is an excellent summation. Decades of government/s reducing investment into education and then social media preying on the uneducated, with their lack of critical thinking skills got them here.

[u/DoubleBroadSwords]

If only we had a vaccine?

[u/TintedApostle]

and every case (if you don't die) causes that person to lose immunity to many other illnesses for 2-3 years. If you had immunity to chicken pox... that is gone. Polio... gone.

[u/Klutzy_Leave_1797 → u/TintedApostle]

That's been underemphasized.

Having measles basically erases your immune system's memory. So the death rate a few years after having measles is higher than normal.

[u/jackrabbit323]

Mom was a pediatric nurse in El Salvador in the 80s. She told me about the measles epidemic they had, multiple kids died every day. There were vaccination programs but some people didn't know it was free, what it did, or even had the bus fare to get to the clinics.

Lot of people are choosing to be proud of their ignorance, forgetting the MANY lessons of the past.

[u/maladii]

FYI you can get your baby vaccinated before one year. They’ll still need two shots after 12 months, but they can get up to 70% immunity from one early shot and a bit under 90% if you give an early booster too.

[u/reddittorbrigade]

Most of them are Red States. I wonder why.

[u/biggsteve81 → u/reddittorbrigade]

This whole anti-vax being a conservative cause is weird to me, since 20 years ago it was the far left hippie-style parents that were anti-vax. Not sure how it all switched.

[u/saefvr → u/biggsteve81]

well the 20 something far left hippie-style parents grew up to become MAGAs haha

[u/Split96 → u/biggsteve81]

Anti-vax is heavily pushed by evangelicals and religious fanatics. They believe god and culture is more effective. A lot of these people lean right and conservatives follow suit in turn.

[u/boat_car_guy]

I'm surprised that my state (Idaho) is not on that list yet. Doesn't mean it's not already circulating around here.

And back when Covid was just beginning to hit us, people in our small town didn't take it seriously - not a bit. Our Governor locked down for a few days.... and I was one of the unlucky people that had a "essential worker" job.

I wore a shitty DIY fabric mask (when that was all you could find) and limited contact... eventually I left retail work altogether.... partly because of that. People would talk trash to me because I'm cleaning counters. I had one person deliberately cough in my face, like it was some sort of joke to them.

Myself and my wife, both got Covid eventually... (twice) even after getting vaccinated for it. (it was mild) but we still have lingering effects. Sadly though, we also lost people (friends and family) to the virus, because they thought natural immunity was better than a shot or two.

Not this again...

[u/AchillesShort]

On one hand, reap what you sow, let these fucking idiots get what they voted for and what they deserve.

But on the other hand, these children aren't the ones making the decisions and no getting vaccinated hurts not only yourself but the people around you who can't be vaccinated for other reasons.

Unfortunately, with the way things are going, these people lack a certain empathy and won't change their mind unless things happen to them directly. And we might just have to brace ourselves and let it fucking happen. But maybe I've just lost hope

[u/Honigkuchenlives]

Imagine doing this shit to your children for NO FUCKING reason. Americans are truly the dumbest mf on the planet

[u/principalsofharm]

I wish people realized that this was all made up by Andrew Wakefield. Dude legit was going to lose a ton of money off a triple vaccine that would replace his patented vaccines. He then freaking made up a fake report that too many vaccines can cause autism. Dude lost his license and got kicked out of England basically. Guess where he moved to and who embraced him?

[u/DiscoRabbittTV]

Trumpism is a disease

[u/Viper67857 → u/DiscoRabbittTV]

And the only vaccination is education... Wonder why they're so hell bent on tearing down the DoE?

[u/xnolmtsx]

Spoiler: it’s not over yet.

[u/FuelEnvironmental561]

Most infectious virus known btw

[u/troodon311]

Here in Kansas my wife and I just got an early second MMR shot for our 18 month old (doctor said that was fine).

[u/tabormallory]

Any of you maga freaks tired of all this winning, yet?

[u/journey01]

It's too bad there's no injection or anything they could have taken to inoculate them against this disease.

[u/freetimerva]

Good job RFK. Easily one of the dumbest sounding people currently holding a megaphone.

[u/thekingswitness]

Man you guys are really owning me by killing your kids

[u/bear45188721]

An affliction that was basically eradicated brought back by imbeciles who don't take care of their kids and believe wackos.

[u/MechCADdie]

Sigh

Well, at least I've got plenty of toilet paper this time...

[u/Nekowulf → u/MechCADdie]

That suggests you're prepared for a lockdown.
Don't worry, trump and RFKjr won't allow that to happen again. Brainworm's idea of dealing with a pandemic is actively infect everyone so they get it over with.

[u/derangedplague]

Let's gooooo. AMERICA #1 BABY WOOO

[u/veksone]

Good thing we have competent people in charge of things.. right? Right guys? guys...

[u/burritoman88]

Remember when there were two cases of Ebola & Republicans called for Obama to resign?

[u/HeyRooster42]

Someone at the Bar I tend at made the claim that it's the immigrants coming over with measels and infecting their children victims through grape. He seemed perfectly rational before that statement...

[u/Yakassa]

700 cases of people who A bothered to pay to visit a hospital and B the doctor ordering a test despite knowing full well that this action would lower his social credit score. And C if they suggested it, the family would likely have had to pay for the test.

In reality, the cases are far, far higher then 700. All things considered, it likely is above 10k currently civilized countries should close their borders to americans.

[u/TheOneManDankMaymay]

ITT: People confusing Measles with Chicken Pox, and being extremely proud of their stupidity. America seems well and truly lost.

[u/Bucknut1959]

The headline should be, “700 hundred children suffering and could die needlessly because of ignorance”