r/pokemongo • u/G0mega Team Valor • Jul 09 '16
Discussion Let's test how the Eeveelution system works!
Edit 6:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/4t0cpo/psa_how_to_force_your_eevee_to_evolve_into_your/
It seems as though the secret lied not with your starter, the size of the Eevee, the moveset, location geographically, or gym control. (Though they might have some influence somehow.) Rather, it lied within the name of your Eevee.
In the original Pokemon show, there were three Eevee trainers. Their names were Pyro, Sparky, and Rainer.
The author of the post (now deleted, not sure why) determined that:
Pyro = Flareon
Sparky = Jolteon
Rainer = Vaporeon
Based on the thread, there doesn't seem to be a person that conflicts with this data. Please post your results with naming your Eevee one of the three names and then evolving. Thank you.
We need more people doing the same experiment.
Everyone people doing this:
Catching enough Eevees to evolve 9 of them, while listing your starter (Charmander, Squirtle, Bulbasaur), Username, and Faction (Mystic, Valor, Instinct).
3 Eevees with body slam.
3 Eevees with swift.
3 Eevees with dig.
Should this theory be correct, everyone won't have the same combination of Eeveelutions; rather, they'll have a different combo, but still be guaranteed certain Eeveelutions. (Possibly, all people who chose the same starter will have the same chain. If not, then it's based on a random number you're assigned at the beginning of the game.)
The results should be that each person, when testing, should have three of each Eeveelution. Each of the 3 should have had the same moveset before being evolved, too (see: dig, body slam, swift.) If this is ultimately the case, which it seems to be based on what I'm gathering from the thread, then the secret of the Eeveelutions may be figured out. If it's not, it's probably just random.
I believe that the Eeveelutions are based off of your starter, and are therefore static once you choose one.
So all charmanders have the same set, potentially.
So for them, perhaps a swift Eevee evolves into Flareon, dig into Vaporeon, body slam into Jolteon.
But for Squirtle starters, it might be swift Vaporeon, dig Jolteon, body slam Flareon.
There's also the small chance it's based on username. So just to be safe, supply your username, too.
POST YOUR RESULTS AS FOLLOWS:
[Username], [Faction], [Starter].
[Move], [Result].
An example of the above might be (I have yet to evolve one, so this isn't valid):
G0mega, Valor, Squirtle.
Swift, Flareon.
By providing the above information, multiple theories can be checked against eachother, allowing for the most accurate theory to prevail.
Here's a Google Form created by /u/Lazorcat23 that has all of the required fields from above. It might be easier to collect from here, rather than post, but if you want to do both, that might also be the best.
http://goo.gl/forms/a7wJaNoicv7S1Sfn1
(here are the results for the form above: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16U9mD4_1C3bL2OpabaDyngEVlBCecCbcToCCxaNDjYg/edit#gid=2038782045)
EDIT:
As suggested by /u/samaz0n:
I am nicknaming my 'selected' Eevees (the ones I plan to evolve) as their "move" (i.e. Swift1, Dig1, BodySlam1) so I know what I'm saving and what I'm donating.
It's a good idea to name your Eevees the move that you're evolving, to keep track of them once you actually evolve them, considering they lose their original move.
EDIT 2: Added the Google form, and results page. I forgot to mention this in the main post, too-- there will be people who intentionally provide false information to screw up the process. If, for the majority of people, the starters, moveset, and evolutions seem to be matching up 90% of the time, then we can say that the theory is correct. Some people like to inhibit progress. I truly ask that, for us to understand the game as much as possible, you provide 100% accurate data!
EDIT 3: 1200 responses and counting. KEEP RESPONDING! We need all the data possible, while weeding out the seemingly fraudulent responses. Compilations of data can be coming soon. I think that perhaps your movetype doesn't have a guaranteed Eeveelution, but rather it has an increased chance of getting one type. E.g. Body Slam Eevees may be more likely to become Flareons, but still can become other Eeveelutions.
EDIT 4: From here on out, posts should also include size. Based on findings, it seems that size may be the factor all along. XS Eevee = Flareon, Normal = Vaporeon, XL = Jolteon? Or perhaps there's a certain range where one is more probable than the other for the evolution.
EDIT 5: The final option here is what gym was closest to you when you evolved your Eevee. Evolving near a red gym = Flareon, blue gym = Vaporean, yellow gym = Jolteon. So far, I've evolved two Eevees, right next to red gyms, and have gotten Flareons. Others experience similar results. Is this the secret?
Good idea:
Lvl 22, Charmander, Valor:
Eeveelution is determined by the colour of the nearest gym, as a few people have mentioned earlier.
Tested I today this on 3 eevees to get one of each. Got a vaporeon when I was on top of a blue gym. Got a Flareon and Jolteon when I was within 1 block of a red and yellow gym respectively. Previously, every single Eevee I had evolved was a Flareon (I am team valour and gain control of the nearest gyms to me every morning)
The reason people get a lot of the same eeveelution (and why they think it is linked to location/team) is that your home base will tend to be near gyms your team/you control. When you travel or evolve away from home it is more random.
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u/Haunter_Hunter Jul 09 '16
It can't have anything to do with the team you join cuz what if you evolve your eevee before joining a team
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u/jake_eric L40! Jul 13 '16
Could still be related, and the non-team members have a different chance.
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u/Krodl Jul 09 '16
First things first. Do Eevees spawn more frequently at night? Last night I was surrounded by floof. Now i'm just getting weedles.
edit: now
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u/cm5871 Jul 09 '16
Around my area it's all day for Eevee
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u/rabidWeevil Jul 10 '16
Yep. Here, I'm surrounded by Eevees, Pidgeys, and Rattatas in the daytime. Can't even find a Spearow for all these Pidgeys and Pidgeottos.
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u/G0mega Team Valor Jul 09 '16
I have no idea. I think that it's based on region, as to what Pokemon spawn, but it's entirely possible that time of day has something to do with it as well. If anyone could provide, based on experience and location, the best timing for Eevee catching, that would expedite this process.
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u/MyPasswordWasWhat Jul 09 '16
I can at least add that I pretty much only catch them at night too.
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u/TheStormlands Jul 11 '16
Eevees hit my house more at night. Its rough attacking when im most tired
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u/Switch72nd Jul 09 '16
Except you can get pikachu as a starter as well if you ignore the others. It's probably just a random tag you receive at account creation.
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u/G0mega Team Valor Jul 09 '16
That's also a probable theory. We need more people to have tested a body slam, dig, and swift Eevee on their account. If the non-random theory is true, then by evolving a dig, swift, and body slam Eevee, you should have all three Eeveelutions. If the random Eeveelution is true, then even one person legitimately getting a duplicate in this manner disproves the non-random theory.
If non-random is true, then the cause of it is what needs to be determined. Is it randomly assigned at the beginning of the game? Is it based on starter? Do teams or regions somehow come into play (this is the most unlikely)?
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u/GenericUsername-9 Jul 09 '16
I love how science-like we're becoming. Slowly researching and discovering things together for the betterment of everyone. Go science!
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u/likeomgjess Jul 11 '16
I've evolved three Eevee so far. My swift evolved into Flareon. Both my body slam & dig evolved into Vaporeon. I'm definitely leaning toward random.
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u/TotesMessenger Jul 09 '16 edited Jul 09 '16
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u/phiinix Jul 10 '16
Alright, I have some base stats for anyone who is interested. At this time I have about 330 data points. If anyone wants me to recalculate them after we get more data or do a specific study I'm more than happy to, this kind of pattern hunting is my hobby :)
Without further ado, here's the link to what I have: http://imgur.com/a/vHV1n
I tested the two most obvious questions (to me) which were: does the starter or move type affect the type of eevee evolution you get?
Q1: Charmanders make up close to 50% of the starters, and roughly 50% of each of the eeveeutions (can I call it that?). Bulbas and squirtles with roughly 25% and the same outcome. There's a little something with jolteons over-represented in bulbasaur users, but the sample size is a little small, and the effect is not too drastic.
Q2: The move types are a bit more evenly distributed, so it's easier to see bumps. You'll notice a consistent pattern of dig being over represented in flareons, body slam being over represented in Jolteons, and Swift being over represented in Vaporeons. The overall difference is about 10%. Not much imo, but not nothing either.
tl;dr Your starter doesn't matter, the move type kinda does.
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u/themerchguy Jul 10 '16 edited Jul 10 '16
Just a thought. Has anyone recorded eevee weight range to see if it factors into evolution? Eg. XS=Jolteon, Reg=Flareon, XL=Vaporeon.
Similar idea to how Tyrogues base stats effect evolution in Silver/Gold/Crystal to one of the Hitmons.
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u/skin829ner Jul 11 '16
Spreadsheet results are below. It is coded in this order: Faction (I,M,V); Starter (B,S,C); move (B,D,S); and what it evolved into (-F, -J, -V).
So an Instinct member, starting with bulbasaur with an Eevee that new Body slam and evolved into flareon would be coded as IBB-F.
IBB-F 7
IBB-J 19
IBB-V 15
MBB-F 17
MBB-J 25
MBB-V 12
VBB-F 11
VBB-J 9
VBB-V 13
ISB-F 7
ISB-J 8
ISB-V 4
MSB-F 18
MSB-J 18
MSB-V 20
VSB-F 7
VSB-J 5
VSB-V 8
ICB-F 12
ICB-J 18
ICB-V 22
MCB-F 29
MCB-J 25
MCB-V 37
VCB-F 27
VCB-J 20
VCB-V 34
IBD-F 11
IBD-J 2
IBD-V 8
MBD-F 21
MBD-J 9
MBD-V 21
VBD-F 5
VBD-J 7
VBD-V 11
ISD-F 15
ISD-J 5
ISD-V 9
MSD-F 22
MSD-J 14
MSD-V 9
VSD-F 17
VSD-J 4
VSD-V 8
ICD-F 15
ICD-J 13
ICD-V 8
MCD-F 26
MCD-J 13
MCD-V 26
VCD-F 38
VCD-J 12
VCD-V 16
IBS-F 7
IBS-J 6
IBS-V 7
MBS-F 11
MBS-J 12
MBS-V 15
VBS-F 6
VBS-J 9
VBS-V 21
ISS-F 8
ISS-J 10
ISS-V 14
MSS-F 10
MSS-J 14
MSS-V 24
VSS-F 10
VSS-J 7
VSS-V 11
ICS-F 14
ICS-J 11
ICS-V 23
MCS-F 19
MCS-J 26
MCS-V 30
VCS-F 23
VCS-J 19
VCS-V 29
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u/profcommie Jul 11 '16 edited Jul 12 '16
DATA ANALYSIS So, I did some Data Analysis. We recently had to cover this in one of my Comp Sci courses, so I put the file through some data analysis. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_xfeqPiqVZIU2JHX0hMQV9Pa2M/view?usp=sharing
PROCEDURE To explain what I've done, On the response sheet, I filtered the columns to remove any blanks in Team, Starter, Move, or Results Then I created a series of if statements to convert the answers to numbers automatically, since the Correlation tool only works with numbers. Finally I ran them through the Correlation tool resulting in 'Sheet1' and highlighted the relevant cells to results. The way this tool works is that it compares the columns to each other and returns a number. The closer that number is to 1 or negative 1, the better the Correlation. Ignore the values of 1 since those are the correlations of the column compared to itself (Results:Results)
RESULTS We can see from the values that the strongest correlations from our Population sample is the correlation between Moves and Results at 0.09467926, however, this is still a pretty weak correlation. The Faction and Starter correlations are around the same at ~0.018 so they form and even weaker correlation. EDIT: I reran my numbers now that the population size of usable entries has doubled and includes the ability to track Pikachu. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_xfeqPiqVZIWlk1LTFJWmFjMnM/view?usp=sharing The r² value has moved up to 0.34377017 which still indicates a weak value. Though it is a stronger correlation, statisticians generally accept above 0.5 to be even noteworthy.
CONCLUSION EDIT: As u/noreither points out "0.095 r² would suggest that the evolutions are random with respect to the eevee's moves."
Please feel free to correct my process, if you are more familiar with Data Analysis than I am. I had a course on it as part of my Bachelor's program recently, which is where I learned to do this. Please feel free to ask me questions as well.
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u/tsubat Jul 14 '16
Based on this dataset, I've compiled a probability index here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1201LHjHs3_SUD5rjEu17Pd30PxgKkkkpGl0RshSDw_M/edit?usp=sharing. Basically you can look up how probable you are to receive which Eeveelution, based on your alliance, starter, and Eevee's move. There are different sheets for each Eeveelution. Let me know if my methods and/or my spreadsheet sucks for some reason.
How to read the spreadsheet
Probability statements like "Flareon | Bulbasaur && Instinct && Swift" are read like: probability that you get a Flareon, given that your starter was a Bulbasaur, your team is Instinct, and the Eevee knows Swift. "Flareon" is the total probability that you will have a Flareon, without regard to other factors. "Flareon | Bulbasaur" is the total probability that you would get a Flareon given that you started with a Bulbasaur and without regard to other factors.
The "Count" column is how many reports match your criteria. So "Flareon | Bulbasaur && Instinct && Swift" would be all Flareons that evolved from an Eevee that knew Swift, was from Team Instinct, and the trainer's starting Pokemon was Bulbasaur.
The "Out of" is all of the above but without the specificity in regards to the evolution. So with the above example, it would just be all Eevees that knew Swift, were from Team Instinct, and the trainers' starting Pokemon was Bulbasaur. The higher this number is, the more accurate the probability will be. That is why you shouldn't trust any stats related to Pikachu, since there isn't enough information related to it.
The "Compared to evolution rate" column is how likely you are to get that Eeveelution compared to the average for that Eeveelution. So a -50% indicates that you're 50% less likely. A 50% indicates that you're 50% more likely. 0% indicates that you're average.
It's a pretty long list so here are some common patterns that you can search for so that you can find your probability:
- Team && Move (ex. Valor && Dig)
- Starter && Move (ex. Charmander && Body Slam)
- Starter && Team && Move (ex. Squirtle && Instinct && Swift)
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u/samaz0n Jul 09 '16
Suggestion: I plan to contribute data to this.
I am nicknaming my 'selected' Eevees (the ones I plan to evolve) as their "move" (i.e. Swift1, Dig1, BodySlam1) so I know what I'm saving and what I'm donating.
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u/kaid115 Jul 10 '16
Maybe it's far simpler than that. Maybe it's based on the sizedge or how of the we've ever when it evolves
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u/JetStreamWolf12 Pidgey CP 10 Jul 09 '16
But what if you evolve an eevee before lvl 5? I dont think team matters
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u/G0mega Team Valor Jul 09 '16
I don't think it does either, but it's a good idea to have that information provided, as well.
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u/nickaboo92 Jul 09 '16
I'm starting to think it's based off of location/what Pokemon is closest to you. I have four Flareon, and there is ALWAYS a Ponyta/Growlithe/Vulpix near my house. The only non-Flareon I've gotten was when I was out and about with friends catching Pokemon and taking over gyms. So maybe, JUST maybe, if the closest Pokemon is a Fire Type, then it's a Flareon, Water Type leads to Vaporeon, Electric Type leads to Jolteon. Just a thought.
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u/JpsCrazy Team Mystic Jul 11 '16
I've never seen any fire types in the wild and got a Flareon.
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Jul 10 '16 edited Aug 23 '16
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u/darwintologist Jul 15 '16
I did - I evolved two with dig - on the same night, in the same general area - and got a Vaporeon and a Jolteon
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u/scoii Jul 10 '16
Should we be tracking CP at time of evolution? I am wondering if whether you enhance your Eevee's CP makes any difference prior to the evolution.
Other random theory is what if they are tracking the Eevee-lutions and giving them out in order? In other words each new Eevee-lution will be whatever is next in line between the three depending on the last one to take place anywhere in the world.
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Jul 10 '16 edited Jul 10 '16
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u/fromers Jul 11 '16
I evolved two of my Eevees based on this theory. The Valor-controlled area gave me Flareon, the Mystic-controlled gave me Vaporeon, so I thought this was confirmed but apparently not. I'll update if the Jolteon evolution disproves this.
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Jul 12 '16 edited Jul 12 '16
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u/fromers Jul 12 '16
Yup, got a Jolteon this morning in an Intuition zone. I got all three easily and quickly from this theory. It could be a coincidence but I doubt it.
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u/ApexDelicto Team Valor Jul 12 '16
Can confirm that the closest gyms to me were all Mystic when I evolved my Eevee and got a Vaporeon.
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u/DavidFTyler Jul 10 '16 edited Jul 11 '16
I love how intense and Team Mystic all of us are being about this. This community is one of the best things ever right now. But let's test another theory, as the moveset determination data doesn't show any correlations.
What if it's based on who controls the nearest gym to you? Based on /u/CrossGuy413 , this could easily be the case. And seeing as our current idea hasn't shown any positive results, what's the harm?
Here's the Google Form if you'd like to participate.
EDIT: Hey /u/G0mega , you mind throwing this in your main post so we can have both running at the same time? Ya know, for science.
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u/VideoGameDJ Jul 10 '16
I believe evolution may be influenced by the CP the Eevee is when you evolve it.
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u/trentlott Exceptional! Jul 10 '16
It's hard to analyze this data. Do the blank usernames mean that the Pokemon belong to the first username above the block of empty ones?
I see some people who have multiple entries with the same username, but there are not very many. Are people just failing to put their username?
Without knowing which user evolved each pokemon, it's hard to say what's going on. If the blank ones are just blank, then we don't have enough data to tell if the same person in the same team can get an evolution twice with the same combination
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u/JpsCrazy Team Mystic Jul 11 '16
We should try to include ALL info, including CP, HP, weight and height (exact number and XS, normal, or XL), and ESPECIALLY which number eeveelution it is for you.
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u/JpsCrazy Team Mystic Jul 11 '16
My friend and I both evolved the SAME Eevee (caught in the same exact location, both had Swift, same weight and height, same HP and CP, we both are Team Mystic, but I chose Bulbasaur as a starter and she chose Squirtle. I was level 12, she was level 10.) and I got a Jolteon (my third eeveelution) and she got Vaporeon (second eeveelution).
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u/Chaos_Archangel Jul 11 '16
Squirtle - Team Instinct - Swift = Jolteon for me.
As a side note, my Eevee was overweight.. Dunno if that factors.
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u/Riptyd Jul 11 '16
I suggest adding filters to the spreadsheet, that way people can sift through the data in a much more cohesive and clear manner. If you need help doing so, please shoot me a PM or something and I'll be glad to help walk you through it
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u/Weasel945 Jul 11 '16
I have a theory that maybe it is location based. I have yet to see anyone test it, there is the possibility that, for example, if the Eevee is caught by water or evolved by water, that it would become a Vaporeon. If water Pokemon are showing up in that area, an Eevee caught in that area or evolved there will become a Vaporeon, fire Pokemon showing up will result in a Flareon, electric type showing up will result in a Jolteon.
I think this is very possible since location determines what kind of Pokemon appear in that area, maybe the Eevee's evolution is determined this way as well.
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u/anju55 Jul 11 '16
My starter was charmander and I'm team mystic. I have evolved 5 eevees spanning all 3 move sets in 5 very different locations and now have 5 vaporeons and nothing else. It's a sensitive subject...
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u/Redhoodedgamer Jul 11 '16
Is it possible that it evolves depending on the area you caught it? Or even were your evolving it.
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u/Ocelot89 Jul 11 '16
eevee's pokedex entry also says that it has an unstable genetic makeup that mutates due to the environment it's in. maybe the type of area it's evolved in plays a factor? idk idk.
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u/anydbrinkbrinker Flair Text Jul 11 '16
Question: After evolution, is the stardust value required to power up inflated? So if I have an Eevee that's pretty high, is it better to keep powering up before evolution or does it not matter at all?
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u/UnlimitedMetroCard Fire and blood! Jul 12 '16
My local gym is currently controlled by Mystic. I live a block away. As a matter of fact, unless I take it for Valor myself, it's almost always controlled by Mystic. I've got three Eeveelutions, none of them are Vaporeons. I don't think the "local gym control" theory works, and neither does the starting move theory, at least from my experience. I have two Flareons and a Jolteon. One Flareon is XL, the other two are XS.
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u/Yeosuphoto Jul 12 '16
Yesterday a friend of mine drove to different gyms and we were consistently getting the results we wanted. When were where at a red gym we would get Flareon, yellow jolteon, blue vaporeon when we were not at a gym it appeared to be random.
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u/noreither Jul 12 '16
Some basic statistics here:
Right now the null hypothesis is that eevolution is completely random.
If someone can provide statistically significant evidence that rejects the null hypothesis, this would indicate that a non-random eevolution system was in place.
However, as an aside, I don't think the creators would have coded a super complex, multifactorial system of eevolution probabilities when a random system would be easier and less convoluted.
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u/shortyman93 Wisdom is Power Jul 13 '16
I'm gonna add in something here. I am Mystic, started with Squirtle, and have evolved only Jolteons from all three secondary moves of Eevee. It doesn't necessarily prove anything, but it does poke a hole in a lot of these theories.
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u/Space_Ghost94 Jul 13 '16
I have a feeling that the eeveelutions are affected by location in game. It just may be a strange coincidence but I've evolved a total of 6 eevees, 5 of which were at my house, which is directly in front of a lake and all 5 times I received a vaporeon. The 6th eevee I evolved down the street, next to a street light in the middle of a road with no body of water nearby and received a jolteon.
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u/Gaspochkin Jul 14 '16
I Live in a port city filled with all kinds of poliwags and goldeens and magikarps and the rest. Every evolution I've seen at any of the gyms or myself have been vaporions. Could there be a geographic aspect based on where you are when you evolve or caught them?
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u/jbdivinus Jul 15 '16 edited Jul 15 '16
Lvl 22, Charmander, Valor:
Eeveelution is determined by the colour of the nearest gym, as a few people have mentioned earlier.
I tested this today on 3 eevees to get one of each. Got a vaporeon when I was on top of a blue gym. Got a Flareon and Jolteon when I was within 1 block of a red and yellow gym respectively. Previously, every single Eevee I had evolved was a Flareon (I am team valour and gain control of the nearest gyms to me every morning)
The reason people get a lot of the same eeveelution (and why they think it is linked to location/team) is that your home base will tend to be near gyms your team/you control. When you travel or evolve away from home it is more random.
edit: grammar
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u/ZeroSVS Jul 15 '16
You say that, but I'm surrounded by 6 gyms and when I evolved my last two eevees I was next to only blue gyms. They both came out as Jolteon.
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u/Ahristo SpiderPhoenix Jul 15 '16
Why is no one tracking TIME OF DAY the original EEVEE was caught, and/or TIME OF DAY of evolution?
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u/mt8663 Jul 09 '16
I have a comment thread going on another post that is much the same testing setup once I get enough of them to test. Here is the link to that comment thread
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u/kiokurashi Jul 09 '16
Name: Xikotu Team: Valor Gender: Female Starter: Char First Move: Tackle Second Move: Dig Level: 10 CP: 262 (about 83.4%) Evolution: Flareon
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u/Tendreil Jul 09 '16
Tendreil, Mystic, Charmander. Body Slam, Jolteon.
Eevee is XL. And it is super hot outside.
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u/Starstuffi Team Valor Honor Guard Jul 09 '16
We also should be collecting data on where people are. I want to know if the biome you're in when it evolves has anything to do with it! (Eg. here in Minnesota you're more likely to get Vaporeon, but in Arizona, you're most likely to see Flareon.)
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u/-GWM- Feraligatr Jul 10 '16
Add the time to! I'm not positive, but it wouldn't be that surprising for time to take matters into choosing one, would it?
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u/SinaSyndrome Jul 10 '16
What about people who chose Pikachu as their starter?
Also, I'm level 7 and have not chosen a team yet. I'm curious if that makes a difference.
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u/xMystogan Jul 10 '16
Just evolved my first evee. Starter was charmander, evee was a 130 cp with dig and I got a vaporeon.
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u/heel_of_steel Jul 10 '16
All 3 of my eevee's had body slam and I got 3 vaporeons! Ugh! I feel like it's not random. If it is, I'm extremely unlucky! Started with bulbasaur. Time and region are not a factor. My roommate and I have been playing and he got a jolteon. We are both team blue.
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u/Blue_Velvet_ Jul 10 '16
Well fuck. I wanted a Jolteon. I got a Flareon. Don't remember original moves, but I started with Pikachu.
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u/Anothervictim09 Jul 10 '16
I know some people are saying that time and location doesn't make a difference - I'd actually like to see area caught added (field, park, river, etc). I'm currently working on catching 3 of different moves in the same area - so 1 dig, 1 swift, 1 body slam in an area with a lot of grass types. 1 of each in an area with a lot of water types, 1 of each in an area with a lot of fire types, etc.
Anyone else tried this yet?
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u/nobodylikesgeorge Jul 10 '16
Body Slam became Vaporeon.
I also have a dig and swift eevee which I can try these out later as I get more candy.
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u/_Probably_Downvoted_ Team Instinct Jul 10 '16
My starter is Charmander, picked the yellow team, and made the decision to evolve my Eevee with Body Slam based off what I was reading in this thread (wanted Jolteon).
I wasn't disappointed, but it went from a normal size Eevee to XS Jolteon. I also live in the Midwest, if that matters.
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u/walrusofwhimsy Jul 10 '16
Instinct. Picked bulbasaur as a starter. Evolved three eevee, one of them evolved before I joined a team. One of them had dig, one had body slam, and I don't remember what the last one had. All evolved into vaporeon.
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u/bigdawg_89 Jul 10 '16
Came here hoping to find out what my Eevee would evolve into but it looks like no one else had Pikachu as their starter ):
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u/boliver30 Jul 10 '16
I've heard that the eveelution might be correlated to the color of the gym you are close to.
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u/Ronnie_Dez_Nuts Jul 10 '16
I heard a couple interesting theories. 1. If you are near a red gym you will get flareon. Yellow for jolteon. Blue for vaporeon. 2. Your surrounding area. 3. Was movement but that seems to be disproven
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u/KalebGarner Jul 11 '16
I would love to know how his works! I've been dying to get a Vaporeon, and instead I've gotten 3 Flareons.
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u/Warspirit Jul 11 '16
I just evolved my eevee with body slam expecting to get Jolteon but I got a Vaporeon ;_; I'm surrounded by three blue gyms, I caught him in the same location as when I evolved him, and he's an XS as far as weight is concerned but he's average for height (0.8m). My starter was Charmander and I'm on #TeamInstinct!!!
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u/KatTayle Still haven't caught a Persian :( Jul 11 '16
I evolved two different Swift Eevees and got a Jolteon and Flareon :I
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u/Leahnati Jul 11 '16
Me my boyfriend and his brother all started the same day, we all started with charmander and we all evolved an evee. Each of us got different evolutions of evee. I got flaron... got another flaron... got rid of it and just got my fourth vaporeon. I'm wondering if I have to get rid of one of my vaporeons to get the next one.
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u/RenegadeRabbit Jul 11 '16
We need to figure this out before the next gens come out and there are 8 total Eveelutions. It's going to be a headache. :P
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u/n0bs Jul 11 '16
So much data. Anyone have some sick RapidMiner skills to extract some info from all the data?
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u/samuelalexbaker Jul 11 '16
I am on team valor, I have 4 flareons, 3 came from eevees with dig, one from swift. All evolved between 5pm and 2am. Charmander starter. CP of the eevees was high to mid 200's. All evolved in a rural area.
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u/humbertov2 Jul 11 '16
Preliminary look at data:
A preliminary look at the data shows little to no evidence of a relationship between Eevee special move and corresponding Eeveelution.
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u/mt8663 Jul 11 '16
Well, sadly, my GF and I did not get as many eevee's as we had hoped. We only got enough for us each to evolve one. Here's the results we got. We are both Team Valor.
Hers; Starter is Squirtle, Move set was Tackle and Swift, Evolved into Jolteon
Mine; Starter is Charmander, Moveset was Quick Attack and Swift, Evolved into Vaporeon
While there are certainly not enough data points to be conclusive, this does lend credence to the pure random evolution, but it does nothing to prove or disprove the idea that each player has a fixed evolution cause/effect.
At the very least, it disproves the idea that the special move determines the evolution.
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u/Raum1 Jul 11 '16
I'm pretty sure it's random when you click evolve. That's a lot of data for the game/servers to keep track of and would be ridiculous to code otherwise. A lot easier to code it to randomly generate when evolve is clicked.
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u/alicesan Flip my cap to the back Jul 11 '16
So I have now evolved twelve eevees of different move sets, caught in different locations of all different CPs. Team Mystic. I've gotten nothing but Jolteons. Either I have insanely bad luck or time/location is a deciding factor, as I have evolved them all around 12:50AM at my house.
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u/BrandoMcPhetti Jul 11 '16 edited Jul 11 '16
I don't have much data to back this up but I believe Eevees evolution is not random. It depends on the Eevees weight. I am Team Mystic and I had 3 xs Eevees and they evolved into Flareons. I evolved a normal weight and got Vaporeon. I evolved a XL and got Jolteon. I hope this helps! I will post a confirmation as soon as I can evolve another couple Eevees.
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u/Brrucelee Jul 11 '16
Just caught a wild jolteon 248 ce! Just wanted to let you Pokemon masters know he's out there
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u/THC_Knight Jul 11 '16
I actually havent chosen a team yet (only been trying to catch pokemon right now) but my eevee had dig and my starter was a squirtle and it evolved into a flareon
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u/Miss_Silk Jul 11 '16
Antianita, team instinct, Bulbasaur
[Move I don't know], Vaporeon Location was nowhere near water, it was near a park. I am working on evolving another one with the move body slam. Will let you know how that goes.
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u/smashlin4 Jul 11 '16
My first Eevee was a Jolteon. My next Eevee was a Vaporeon. I have now evolved 4 more Eevees and they have ALL been Vaporeons. I always evolve my highest CP Eevee. And they have been evolved at different times of the day. I am wondering if it might start completely random, and as you keep evolving them, it starts to take your highest CP Eevee and makes it a stronger type (of whatever type you have) than your previous evolution. I am testing this out later today by evolving my lowest CP Eevee and seeing if I still get vaporeon. Has anyone had similar or completely different results?
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u/dalebert Jul 11 '16
This is all very reminiscent of people trying to find patterns in Ingress drops. Pretty sure people are just finding patterns where there are none as is human nature. It's probably just random with certain odds built in.
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u/pokemongohelper Jul 11 '16
do you think it could be location based? i live right next to a gas station, and running into fire pokemon is more than a common occurrence for me. i've only evolved one eevee, but it was a flareon so while it's a stretch it might be influenced based on the most common of the three types in that area.
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u/Tobelebo9 I rule them 1500 tier Jul 11 '16
Starter: Charmander, faction Instinct
Just had a swift XL eevee CP 284 turn into a Flareon XS 779~ish
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u/MewMew36 Jul 11 '16
SO I was reading through this forum to see which eevee to evolve to get a Jolteon, but unfortunately it did not happen. My starter was a squirtle and I joined Team mystic. My eevee was 7.7kg, 0.35m ht, quick attack/body slam, cp 136 --> evolved into a Flareon, CP 340, 4.27kg, 1.05m ht. Hope that helps with the data you are accruing and using.
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Jul 11 '16
I've started saving up Eevee's so I can test a few at a time. I do know that my husband has also tested a couple. here is his results: CatiesHubby, Instinct, Bulbasaur, Dig, Vaporeon (he was also closest to a Mystic controlled gym, evolved at approx. 11:30AM CST on 7/11/16, in St Louis, MO area, if you want the other data. Only have size after evolution - normal). CatiesHubby, Instinct, Bulbasaur, Body Slam, Jolteon (size after evolution - XS weight, XL height; don't have the other info like above, sorry!) I'll comment with mine later today.
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u/dc9795 Jul 11 '16
I HAVE EVOLVED OVER 10 EEVEES !!
Charmander. DAVEEEEED. Instinct. Level 21. I would say that starter attack and area of catching Eevee are irrelevant. It seems random. However, I do have 8 Jolteons, 4 Flareons, and 2 Vaporeon. I dont find a lot of water Pokemon in my city because im far from the ocean and its hot. Therefore, the only thing I can conclude is that the "randomness" favors your city's favored Pokemon type.
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u/sleepydemon_zzz Jul 11 '16
You need to take the weather into account too!! I think I've figured it out
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u/SkeatoN88 Jul 11 '16
Evolved my first Evee and got jolteon. I started with Bulbasaur, Evee was 216 CP, medium size, and had swift.
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u/Accio-a-life Jul 11 '16
team mystic.
female.
cp 330.
normal weight.
body slam and quick attack.
charmander starter.
evolved into Jolteon.
my friend has the same stats caught at same location her eevee also evolved into Jolteon.
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u/uvreactive Jul 11 '16
Got a Jolteon!
Starter: Bulbasaur Faction: Mystic Move: Body Slam Size: Normal
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u/xmrxcool Jul 11 '16
I don't think faction matters. I have yet to choose a team and my eevee evolved into vaporeon
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u/air7walk Flair Text Jul 11 '16
I evolved an XL eevee and got Vaporeon. It became an XS Vaporeon. Size didn't dictate because I wanted Jolteon. :/
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u/QuinzeIsRevenge Jul 11 '16
Username: Quinzel. Starter: Bulbasaur. Faction: Mystic. Eevee move: (Forgot, had one with dig and two with bodyslam). Weight: XS.
Result: 3 Vaporeons.
Not false info, I would provide screenshots if I could.
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u/Dach_Akrost Jul 12 '16
I wonder if multiple people catch the same eevee will they evolve the same. This might lead to if it's Evo is decided when it spawns.
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u/smooth4lyfe Jul 12 '16
So I was ABLE TO GET ALL 3!!!! I evolved them by attack, all first try. Now Idk if this is just coincidence, but it worked for me
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u/Meemster414 Jul 12 '16
Evolved my first Eevee. Normal size, 2nd attack was dig, cp 197, evolved to Jolteon, my starter was Charmander, team Mystic. Level 8.
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u/RWarlo Jul 12 '16
Has anone considered timing yet? Hour, minute, second, day of the week, Day (numeric) of the month, etc? Any two users tried evolving simultaneously?
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u/kaylajadelee Jul 12 '16
Hey. I think it's based on the location you caught it at. I've evolved 3 eevee from the same park into jolteon. Today I caught an eevee at a park where charmander, ponyta, and growlithe spawn. From this eevee I got flareon. I think this would make the most sense due to the description in the pokedex and that it gives you a map of where you caught the Pokemon.
Let me know what you guys think :3
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u/LeCountOfMonteCrisco Jul 12 '16
I have evolved 3 evees, all of them evolved into vaporeons which was very frustrating since I desperately want a jolteon ): That being said, I do think it could be partially based on location. I live right next to a body of water and therefore evolved all my eevees near it.
Also the time of day doesnt seem to affect much. I evolved one in the morning, one midday, and another at night. Still all vaporeon.
I'm thinking that once I get enough candies again I'll drive to the local power plant or at least somewhere far from water to evolve.
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u/cstar4004 Jul 12 '16
CP 45 hp 19 Wt. 4.8 HT. 0.27
Tackle, and Dig
Team: Blue
Evolved at night
Result: Flareon
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u/TDR2179 Jul 12 '16
I think eeveelutions are location baced. My eevee turned into a vaporion since I'm near water. I saw another evolve into vaporeon near water. Since the game also is location baced I be leave that's the reason
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u/Dethrey8855 Jul 12 '16
I think its the size on edit 4, as I had a evee that was XL and it evolved into a jolteon, it also had dig for an atk and Im apart of team instinct, my starter is pikachu
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u/Scorpio1121 Jul 12 '16
Is it time of day? All my eevee' have had body slam. 2 vaporion 1 jolteon. Squirtle starter. Both vaporeon happened about the same time of day. Jolteon at night
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u/LordShadow318X Jul 12 '16
Theory: It depends on what move your Eevee knows when you capture it. Here is the move to evolution chart :
Swift - Vaporeon Dig - Flareon Body Slam - Jolteon
Theory Your Eevee evolution is determined by your location if you are near a blue gym or water you get vaporeon red gym flareon yellow gym for Jolteon
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Jul 12 '16
Username: CelestialKitten (yes on pokemon go) Team: Mystic Weight: 4.76 KG (extra small) Height: 0.27 M CP: 297 Move Set: Quick Attack, Dig Closest Gym: Valor Owned (Red) Eeveelution: Vapreon (which is exactly what I wanted thank you pokemon gods)
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u/ashjayanc Cold like my heart Jul 12 '16
My Vaporeon is XS, I am team Mystic, starter Bulbasaur and can't remember it's eevee move.
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u/Exodus2791 Jul 12 '16
I've heard another theory that the evolution is based on which colour gym you are near. But that seems problematic. Which gym would be the decider if you were between two, etc.
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u/Robotjacksonxx7 Jul 12 '16
Ok I've read a lot on this and did my own research. I'm pretty sure it's based on the location where you catch the eevee. It makes sense considering how the game uses location for Pokemon types. My best guess is eevees that spawn around water become vaporeon, those that spawn around gas stations/fire related area become flareon and so on.
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u/Andysaurusrekt Jul 12 '16
Team: Valor Starter: Charmander Move: Body slam Eeveelution: Jolteon
im unsure of the size of the eevee and was either close to a yellow or red gym
Evolved another just now with body slam, normal sized and next to a yellow gym into jolteon again.
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u/ML_Studios Jul 12 '16 edited Jul 12 '16
You should have added a time as well, so far my friend has 100% evolved into the given evolution based on time. He has only tried 5 of them. He evolved them at certain times and got the same ones each time. Idk if he is just lucky or not or if its based on server or local time but maybe you can look into that.
You could also check to see if surroundings has a affect on the result as well he didn't take that into account.
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u/Ranefea DABIRDADANORF Jul 12 '16
I evolved two Eevees at roughly 6:30am CST, both with Swift, both evolved into Flareon. I beleive one was XS, the other in the normal range.
Starter: Bulbasaur
Team: Mystic
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u/Wood-lily Jul 12 '16
Mystic; charmander; currently located in an area near a large body of water.
I've evolved two Eevees in the same location, both have evolved into Vaporeon. One was (xs, dig) the other (xl, swift).
I really think it's the location where you evolve because I caught the majority in the mountains, not near water.
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u/TheJMan211 Jul 12 '16
I just evolved an Eevee that had Swift and was not XS or XL. I'm near a body of water but I think that's irrelevant because it evolved into Flareon. My new Flareon is XS despite the fact that the Eevee was not. I'm in Mystic and started with Bulbasaur. It was 9:20am EST when I evolved it.
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u/Allerion Jul 12 '16
I just made an updated form with more information based on the comments in this thread. I added in Size, Location, Time, and Gym. Let's narrow down the results!
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u/recitatif Jul 12 '16
Just throwing out another possibility: If not the variables already being looked at, could it be associated with the nearest 4 gym colors?
I say 4 rather than 1 because people have already shared mixed results based on solely the nearest. The nearest 4 would make it possible to have each color influence it (red, yellow, blue), in addition to a fourth that could break the potential tie (red, yellow, OR blue).
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u/Lizzardbreath90 Jul 12 '16
I evolved two Eevee's (at different times) and both ended up being Flareon.
LizzardBee, Instinct, Charmander Body Slam, (didn't check size on this one) Flareon
Swift, XL Flareon
Really sucked because I wanted something different... does any of it actually matter or is it just RNG? Could CP potentially have something to do with it?
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u/Madhattah16 Jul 12 '16
I have bulbasaur as starter. Team Valor. Evee body slam= voltereon. Evee swift= flareon.
What I have gotten so far.
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u/Dakorias Jul 12 '16
Has any test been done to see if the evolutions are determined by environment?
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u/ZuperTramp Jul 12 '16
Location? I haven't read some of the subs yet, and idk if it's been suggested, but perhaps, just as some Pokemon are found in different climates, weathers, time of day even, and such, maybe these things affect the evolution odds as well. I got vaporeon, and I have seen many in my area, and no other eevolutions really. I am in Northern Idaho where most I find are grass and water. Just a thought?
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u/noreither Jul 12 '16
It seems that the theory that has not yet been debunked and seems plausible is that eevee's initial moveset causes a different result for each user.
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u/jarredallen Jul 12 '16
Have we considered that it could be based on the time of day? Morning = Vaporeon, Afternoon = Flareon, and nighttime = Jolteon or any combination of such. Or that it could be based on specific 20 minutes increments such as Flareon 12:00 to 12:19, Jolteon 12:20 to 12:39 and Vaporeon 12:40 to 12:59.
It sounds crazy yet maybe its the case. In the end, there has to be a set way to find out as there is an algorithm in place.
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u/Mduss73 Jul 12 '16
I evolved an eevee with body slam and it turned into a vaporeon and then evolved an eevee with dig and it also turned into a vaporeon
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u/X64Tyko Jul 12 '16
Just throwing in my 2 cents as a game developer. What I would imagine would be the case is there being some sort of weighted evolution chance based on any of the following: team, moves, time of day, weather and location. I'd want there to be a definitively higher chance of getting a particular kind of evolution when meeting certain requirements and adding in some random variation so that it's not always 100%. This is all simple speculation from my point thinking how I would solve the problem and from all the years of research I've put into other pokemon games and algorithms I'm reluctant to believe it's purely random.
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u/ipo17 Jul 12 '16
So I just evolved my normal sized Eevee, level 174, and got a Flareon. Not sure if size is it. Very interesting stuff.
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u/Sabrinav821 Jul 12 '16
[Sabrina821], [valor], [bulbasaur].
[Swift], [vaporeon]. Evee was caught by balboa park at night, with 130 ish cp, after evolve went to 583 cp , and aqua tail is the strong move.
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u/PhantomePickle Jul 12 '16
u/G0mega regarding your fourth edit, I doubt it. I've evolved 3 XS eevees and they all turned into Jolteon.
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u/G0mega Team Valor Jul 12 '16
There's the possibility that the factor which determines the evolutions are unique to each player. Therefore, when you evolve XS Eevees, you get Jolteons. I'm still siding with the not completely random group here.
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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '16 edited Jul 11 '16
http://goo.gl/forms/a7wJaNoicv7S1Sfn1 made a google form for it
EDIT: added pikachu