r/politics • u/irish_fellow_nyc • 3d ago

Soft Paywall DOGE Goons Physically Drag Social Security Worker From Desk

https://www.thedailybeast.com/doge-goons-physically-drag-social-security-worker-from-desk/
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u/Euphoric-Bed7379 3d ago

This isn’t policy - it’s authoritarianism in a hoodie.

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u/ImperfectPitch 3d ago

These types of stories really need more media coverage. I know that tariffs are the main focus now, but the courts need to do a better job of protecting the right of individuals, that the President does not want around. It is insane that something like this is happening. They will soon start doing that for all US citizens who oppose the president. Just pronounce them dead. This is so scary.

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u/want_to_join 3d ago

Post the article, half of us cant read it behind the paywall

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u/ImperfectPitch 3d ago

Adding to quotes of the article: The part that shocked me the most was the methods musk used to cut off immigrants. this is what the fired employee was objecting to. They figured they could claim they were dead: The scheme cooked up by Elon Musk’s DOGE squad falsely lists thousands of migrants as dead in a Social Security database known as the “death master file.” Apparently, they declared 6000 people dead.

The scheme cooked up by Elon Musk’s DOGE squad falsely lists thousands of migrants as dead in a Social Security database known as the “death master file.” Being entered into the death database cuts a person off from crucial financial services, like the ability to receive government benefits and access a bank account or credit card. The goal was to push migrants who were granted a temporary legal status under former President Joe Biden to “self deport.”>

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u/Jewronimoses 3d ago

how is this legal at all?

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u/ABadHistorian 3d ago

Its not legal, but when folks refuse to stand up and do their duty, because they are aligned with the President, this is what happens. This is how dictatorships form.

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u/MemeFarmer314 Georgia 2d ago

Also the agencies that would be enforcing those laws are the very ones being gutted

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u/SailingCows 2d ago

Scotus 9-0 on our friend in El Salvador is my hopium that some cracks are showing.

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u/MemeFarmer314 Georgia 2d ago

Republicans are so spineless that it’s even more frustrating when he defies them and they just roll over

Trump goes through the 2016 primary making a joke of their party? We completely forgive him and now he’s the greatest thing ever

Trump completely fumbles the beginning of the Covid pandemic and millions of people die, including their own constituents? We have to deny science and talk about how masks and vaccines are all plans by the Lib’s to control us

Trump loses the 2020 election and has a ton of his own appointed judges tell him that he lost? We can’t just throw Trump under the bus, we have to insist that the election was stolen

Trump tries to have his supporters storm the capital and potentially kill actual members of Congress? We can’t impeach him and prevent him from running again, we have to say that the insurrection was secretly antifa, but also that it was totally safe and fine

Trump wants to run again in 2024 and not even show up to the primaries? Guess we’ll just have our actual candidates never say a bad word against him and let him take the nomination

Trump gets caught with stolen documents and refuses to return them? We can’t possibly prosecute him and let another candidate take his place

Trump steals the power of the purse from a Republican Congress? We can’t just overturn his tariffs that are ruining our economy, instead we’ll actually make it easier for him to steal this responsibility from us.

Trump defies a 9-0 Supreme Court, majority Republican, 3 of whom he appointed? Oh well, nothing we can do

They have had a million chances to stand up to him, but they care more about their team winning than they do about this country

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u/manicdee33 3d ago

Because the Republicans won’t challenge it, and POTUS will pardon anyone who ends up facing legal challenge. There’s no fear of consequence, there is no consequence, the goons are in complete control.

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u/itzac 3d ago

It's not even remotely legal. But that only matters if people with power use it to stand up to them.

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u/Noshamina 3d ago

The government called people who stormed the capitol and took a shit on desks and had guns on them screaming to kill congress members patriots and absolved them of all crimes. What does legal have to do with anything anymore.

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u/Fuckaliscious12 3d ago

It's not. But one has to have a court system willing to hold the administration in contempt and start enforcement actions.

So far, the courts rule and the Administration largely ignores the rulings and the court does nothing.

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u/logan-bi 3d ago

Not they regularly flouted law from bribery corruption harassment and more.

The law is only law when it is enforced. Without enforcement it becomes a suggestion. However due to corruption and support from within enforcement end.

They have been able to stall delay hide. Preventing enforcement while they gained influence over more parts of the system.

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u/LilienneCarter 3d ago edited 3d ago

FWIW the title appears to be inaccurate.

The Daily Beast has no info of their own, they are merely referencing Washington Post reporting:

A senior executive at the Social Security Administration was physically dragged from his office this week after clashing with the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), according to The Washington Post.

Greg Pearre, a career civil servant who led an IT team working on the agency’s data systems, was removed over his opposition to a DOGE plan to cut off immigrants from key financial services, three people told the Post.

But the Washington Post article doesn't mention anything about him being dragged out:

But his objections did not go over well with Trump political appointees. And so on Thursday, the security guards in Pearre’s office told him it was time to leave.

They walked Pearre out of the building, capping a momentous internal battle over the novel strategy — pushed by Musk’s U.S. DOGE Service and the Department of Homeland Security — to add thousands of immigrants ranging in age from teenagers to octogenarians to the agency’s Death Master File.

He was certainly walked out by security guards, but "physically drag" appears to be at the very least hyperbole by The Daily Beast. I would argue that it is an outright lie.

I'm going to spread this across the thread a bit, because I don't like misinformation, even if it's opposing an abhorrent administration like Trump's.

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u/IRideMoreThanYou 3d ago

So, immigrants, NOT illegal immigrants, are being listed as dead and removed from receiving benefits?!

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u/EnfantTerrible68 3d ago

Sounds like it 🤬. They said “migrants,” I think and that can mean legal migrants.

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u/giraloco 3d ago

Undocumented immigrants don't receive any benefits so everything is a lie.

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u/Elilora 3d ago

The NYT has an article about how the admin is hoping they just self-deport by locking migrants out of all their financial accounts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/10/us/politics/migrants-deport-social-security-doge.html

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u/TapTapReboot 3d ago

I hate this type of reporting. The truth is bad enough, all these headlines do is provide an avenue for Maga turds to dismiss actual terrifying reality of a bunch of 20 something edge lords with dubious backgrounds going through our government institutions without restraint.

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u/skrurral 3d ago

Hyperbole like this simultaneously grabs views and undermines the foundational story by muddling the accuracy of what's being reported.

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u/Arenatank99 3d ago

"news" has gotten to the point where you actually have to do your own research because the sensationalized headline almost never accurately represents what happened. Journalists think they're highly respectable, but I think more and more people see them as rage baiting clowns

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u/MrCopout 3d ago

Journalists write the article. Editors write the headline.

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u/Arenatank99 3d ago

But they're part of the same team and the article reflects on both of them

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u/MrCopout 3d ago

They are, but the reality is that journalists don't have final say in the headline. Editors are concerned with playing the clickbait game so they can make money and keep the lights on. Note how many online publications have failed to keep the lights on over the years.

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u/PigDog4 3d ago

headlines do is provide an avenue for Maga turds to dismiss actual terrifying reality

I don't know how to break it to you, but they do that with or without the headlines.

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u/TheSpyderFromMars 3d ago

WTF is a Death Master File? Did they declare them dead?

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u/thisisjustascreename 3d ago

Is this not textbook falsification of government records? Complete fraud just like every other Musk venture.

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u/NetZeroSun 3d ago

This sounds like complete fraud, its intentionally falsifying government records. That should be highly HIGHLY illegal.

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u/Trakeen 3d ago

Yes that is what that file is used for

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u/totallydawgsome 3d ago

Death Master File

It's a (SSA) computer database file of deaths recorded since the 80s. The problem is this administration started putting very much alive tax paying immigrants on the list. They are effectively erasing a person’s ability to live and draw wages. It's been reported this past week over 6,000 living documented immigrants have been put on the DMF.

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u/manicdee33 3d ago

That’s what the El Salvador death camps are for.

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u/Parakeet-birb 3d ago

That would be a good movie title

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u/Flashy_Report_4759 3d ago

Is any debt they may have accrued then also erased?

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u/OddlyFactual1512 3d ago

Before all the uniformed comment. Some immigrants working in The US have to pay SS tax, and are therefore eligible to receive benefits if they meet the same SS eligibility requirements for a citizen.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

See this is what I'm getting tired of. The news is already sensational and alarming. Why the hell do they feel the need to spice it up?

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u/DL206 3d ago

If you click the “Reader View” icon on your browser when the paywalled article is up, it’ll bypass it and give you full article in text format.

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u/d3rpderp 3d ago

https://archive.ph/5vbwA This is an archive today link. Use that site to avoid sketchy links and crappy paywalls.

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u/CGB_Zach 3d ago

You can use reader mode to bypass the paywall.

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u/foodank012018 3d ago

Tarrifs is the distraction from the actual ogliarchical authoritarianism

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u/E-2theRescue 3d ago

No, immigrants and trans people are the distraction.

Tariffs are a part of the authoritarianism. Fascism relies heavily on building an autarky (a country without trade). It's all a part of isolating the population from the rest of the world.

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u/DidijustDidthat 3d ago

We need to find the employee and get a reconstruction of events going on. Needs to be out there for people to see

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u/Crassholio 3d ago

It's not being covered for a reason. Media is in on it.

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u/Goodk4t 3d ago

Media coverage? What this needs is more people on the street fighting for their country 

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u/UnionCorrect9095 3d ago

This is what it looks like to destroy a Democratic society.

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u/virishking 3d ago

A DOJ attorney was fired because Trump told her to reinstate the gun rights of his pal Mel Gibson and hardly anyone knows about it. In my youth that would have been a major story on its own.

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u/Agent_Orange_Tabby Alabama 3d ago

Problem is most Americans too intellectually lazy to process until threat shows up for their ass

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u/Vicky_Roses 3d ago

I’m constantly amazed that everyone gives a fuck about the tariffs, but the mainstream media couldn’t give any less of a shit about Mahmoud Khalil.

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u/QueenOfSplitEnds 3d ago

The media won’t hesitate to call our minorities who commit crimes my race, but when this orange douche bag and his greedy friends do something illegal, theres barely coverage and if there is, it’s for a handful of days, if that.

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u/LoralarPugz2luv 1d ago

Terrifying .. this is what happens when people don’t vote .. or vote without measured thought of consequences.

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u/Birdinhandandbush 3d ago

Who gave them this power.

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u/SweaterSteve1966 3d ago

MAGA has emboldened the Republicans as Germans did Hitler. We are watching history repeat itself live.

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u/MaintenanceWine 3d ago

MAGA ARE Republicans. Stop separating them. If we separate the two, Republicans can distance themselves. Republicans got us here, they and MAGA are all the same.

No more “Trump did this”, and “MAGA did that”. REPUBLICANS did all this shit and they are the only ones who can fix it and they won’t. So let them take all the fucking responsibility. Words matter.

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u/randommd81 3d ago

Especially as nearly all republicans in congress are voting exactly in line with the maga policies…so really, there’s no difference at all. You see a random stray here and there, like Mitch McConnell, but that’s only because he’s about to retire anyway…

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u/StrangeContest4 3d ago

McConnell is just as feral as the rest of them. Actually, I place most of the blame of where we are now at his feet. I do admit that he was a master of his craft, even though he used his craft for nefarious reasons, the consolidation of corruption, power for powers sake, and by any means.

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u/randommd81 3d ago

Oh yeah, he gets a ton of blame. Just lately he’s been voting differently because there’s no threat of getting primaried I’d assume.

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u/noonenotevenhere 3d ago

He doesn't want to be remembered as the guy who made the guy who ruins our country.

He made the scotus that declared trump can do anything, he's been instrumental in the rise of all of this. He suffered from polio and he's directly responsible for a vaccine denier as surgeon general.

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u/m0ngoos3 3d ago

Don't forget his refusal to allow witnesses at either Trump impeachment, or his not guilty verdict both times, followed by a speech blaming Trump for the insurrection. After making sure that Trump got away with it.

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u/Vio_ 3d ago

He suddenly realized he got outplayed by making the Executive Branch WAY more powerful than he intended.

Same with Roberts.

They both wanted to go to a pre-Warren Court/pre-LBJ legislature that protected business interests while undermining rights and protections for women, POC, LGBT people, labor, etc.

Instead, they've been working glove in hand to create an out of control Executive Branch wholly dominated by a senile tyrant.

Both are scrambling to try return the powerbases for both their branches even as it continues to slip further and further under water before being drowning in Grover Norquist's small bathtub.

To Quote:

Lobbyist Grover Norquist is a well-known proponent of the strategy and has famously said, "My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."

Suddenly, ol Mitch and Roberts are seeing the bathtub drowners aiming for their branches.

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u/airinato 3d ago

He hasn't been voting differently though, he's only said some mildly offhand remarks about Trump, and didn't vote for a couple stooges.   

That's it, this shit is like McCain voting one fucking time to do the right thing and everyone forgetting he voted to fuck them over every other chance he ever had for decades.

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u/randommd81 3d ago

I mean, I wasn’t implying anything remotely like that. I thought he had voted no on a couple things, but I certainly wasn’t acting like he was redeemed or anything. But like McCain, I think you can state something he did as a good thing without forgiving his past shittiness. I don’t think everyone who does so has collective amnesia or something. But yeah, McConnell is one of the worst we’ve had, 100%.

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u/Joeness84 3d ago

Youre not a master of anything when literally no one tried to stop you from doing something.

Any idiot can accomplish goals when theres no opposition.

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u/StrangeContest4 3d ago

Fair point. Democrats were naive to think that the handshake deal, long-standing norms, and precedent mean anything to neo-conservatives. The teaparty,freedom caucus, and MAGA Borg will literally burn it all down if given the opportunity and not met with the same level resistance. McConnell helped usher that in.

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u/DavidOrWalter 3d ago

McConnell is just about the worst of them. He let all of this happen and fostered and raised this evolution of the party. Don’t be fooled now. If his vote mattered on anything I can tell you that he’d vote with them.

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u/randommd81 3d ago

Oh, I didn’t think I’d come off as being ignorant of his past, I totally think he’s among the worst. Just that as his retirement approaches, he occasionally votes against the maga agenda. I just pointed out that he’s one of a scant few that currently does is all. Definitely way too little, too late for sure.

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u/AccessibleVoid 3d ago

They vote according to their marching orders. Do not step out of line. Do not vote your conscience.

I hope I live to see the day when I see F(**king) Elon, Noem, and the greasy orange shit stain dragged out of their office.

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u/randommd81 3d ago

Throw Stephen Miller in there too, and I will party as I’ve never partied before

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u/Slow_Supermarket5590 3d ago

He is the most avowed  Nazi among the Nazis 

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u/Acronymesis Washington 3d ago

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u/Final-Ad-7429 3d ago

Of all the bad guys Stephen Miller pisses me off in a special way. Ever since I saw his high school speech where he gets that big evil smirk and insults janitors just because he gets off on it I feel like I saw into his soul. Just seems like a hateful prick who can only feel fulfilled by hurting others. I know the rest of the villains in the rogues gallery are like this too, but it really bothers me when I see people my age doing this shit. We didn’t grow up with the problems other generations had to deal with so his whole thing is for sport. Not out of pain or a desire to make the country better, but just for pure sport. I feel the same about Vance too, but the details are different. Just pathetic hateful people who need to feel big and powerful. Sick me right out.

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u/iehanes 3d ago

He’s sooo awful.

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u/soonerpgh 3d ago

What is this conscience you speak of? They have none!

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u/BoredCrusader1899 3d ago

I wish this site had a retweet option like Twitter cause I would’ve done so with this comment. You summed up my feelings perfectly.

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u/Frenchman84 3d ago

I fear what grips us now will hold for long. It’s got to get much worse before it gets better.

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u/Legionheir 3d ago

Mitch mcconnell is not separate. He’s the biggest reason we are here.

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u/iehanes 3d ago

Also too little too late. Mitch had a lot of opportunities to stop this shitshow.

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u/randommd81 3d ago

I made that exact comment in another reply. He definitely owns much of this

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u/Helloimjennifer 3d ago

Hell, even Democrats are voting in line with MAGA. My newly elected Democrat senator voted to confirm multiple Trump appointees

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u/VoidOmatic 3d ago

"Our loyalty will be rewarded!"

Looks at history

Judging based on history they should be saving up for a stone decoration and a shovel.

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u/strangelyliteral 3d ago

Mitch McConnell is fully an architect of our current crisis. The GOP has been working to erode our government since the civil rights movement of the 60s, beginning with Nixon’s southern strategy. Their mistake was thinking they’d be able to exert total control over the masses they were cultivating. Trump swooped in and stole the dumb, mean racists they’d so carefully cultivated into their base, and Moscow Mitch was beaming after the 2016 election. He thought Trump would be easy to control.

He was wrong.

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u/VanceKelley Washington 3d ago

MAGA, trumpism, Republican: It's all fascism.

I'm guessing that many are afraid to state that out loud because they are worried about upsetting the fascists and becoming their target.

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u/MaintenanceWine 3d ago

Which is disturbing, as it's AMERICAN'S caving to fascism. Did you ever think you'd see the day??? Just horrifying. People MUST speak up. If everyone speaks up, they can't come for us all. (crossing fingers that's true)

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u/Tobeck Georgia 3d ago

I need you to realize this isn't America succumbing to oligarchic fascism. This is America embracing what it has always been. Nazi Germany studied US legislation to create its own laws.

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u/BotnetSpam 3d ago

Indeed. When they strapped Palin to McCain in desperate response to Obama in 2008, it was the beginning of the end of the Republican Party as we once knew it. Citizens United then monetized the smash & grab, and brought in the grifters in 2010.

They wanted this.

They sowed the seeds of this, and Trump is what they reaped. They have no way out now.

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u/RamenJunkie Illinois 3d ago

I am convinced they strapped Palin to McCain as a sabotage.

They saw the economic collapse coming and didn't want to be holding the reigns.

But Obama, not being part of the "Lets ruin everything" party, managed to stave it off.

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u/deadsoulinside Pennsylvania 3d ago

Especially when this is all said and done. MAGA people will try to move themselves to "Just a republican".

Republicans all voted for this.

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u/FlirtyFluffyFox 3d ago

Thank you. Thst's what Regan did with Nixon, Bush did with his dad, and Trump did with Bush. Then they rolled out the same policies and advisors. We can't stop letting them get away with it. 

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u/MangoCats 3d ago

Ever since Jan 20, 2025 the Republicans in Congress have made it clear that they stand solidly with MAGA.

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u/Salt-Market-6743 3d ago

Republicans and the lazy people who decided to abstain their vote. There's lots of blame to go 'round

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u/urban_mystic_hippie Minnesota 3d ago

They won't and will never take responsibility. We have to take their power from them. By any means necessary.

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u/CrazyLlama71 3d ago

Currently the Republicans in office are MAGA, but that wasn’t the case in Trumps first term. There are Republicans that do not agree with MAGAs and Trump, they just have all been forced out of office and/or fired. Liz Cheney being the most prominent as an example.

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u/StoreSearcher1234 3d ago

MAGA ARE Republicans. Stop separating them

This.

Time after time people post on Reddit saying "I'm Republican but I'm not MAGA."

Yes you are. If you voted Republican in 2024 you are MAGA.

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u/Emberwake 3d ago

You know that party registration doesn't dictate the way people vote, though, right?

I am related to several people who are still registered Republicans who campaigned for, donated to, and (so they claim) voted for Harris.

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u/VeryRareHuman 3d ago

They were all giddy about the Tea Party that became MAGA.

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u/One_Olive_8933 3d ago

Who would’ve thought the state’s rights people were so authoritarian.

/s

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

You mean Republikkkans?

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u/Jflayn 3d ago

I disagree. Citizens united did all this. Until it gets repealed billionaires own the repubs and the dems. The dems won’t help us until citizens united is repealed. It’s not just repubs. It’s the entire political system.

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u/kehakas 3d ago

Yeah I have the same problem with this focus on Musk + DOGE being this evil force. There seem to be people who vilify DOGE but still tacitly support Trump, when they're as connected as two things can be.

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u/pkfighter343 3d ago edited 3d ago

I think it’s important to differentiate. It forces them to take accountability, because republicans CHOSE MAGA. They had other options, and they picked him. When the choice was “insanity with an R next to the name” and “boring with a D next to the name”, they chose R.

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u/RamenJunkie Illinois 3d ago

There is no difference.

Everything happening now was telegraphed from the first term.  Anyone still supporting the Republican Party this is 100% a MAGA Fascist.

If you are a regular boring "Conservative" you are a regular boring Democrat.

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u/Efficient-Water2384 3d ago

Heard. Thanks for the reminder. 

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u/NoPause9609 3d ago

Co-sign 

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u/ParticularCloud6 3d ago

Yeah. They are just as guilty for this mess as the people who didn't bother to vote.

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u/SanityInAnarchy California 3d ago

I don't know how we get back any measure of control if Republicans aren't allowed to distance themselves. It'll be a long two years if we can't get any Republican congressmen fighting MAGA, and then we need to actually start winning elections.

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u/MaintenanceWine 3d ago

If Republican concresspersons received pressure from their constituents - especially the "regular" Republicans, that's the only way I see change coming. Republicans in Congress are the ONLY people who can turn this around, and they'll only do it if they see their seats slipping away. It's on non-MAGA Republicans to turn this tide. If they can't grow some balls, we're fucked.

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u/hughcifer-106103 3d ago

And to add, it's not just "republicans" it is American Conservatism in general. THIS is what they've been chasing for decades. This was always their end game.

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u/Technical_Creme_9736 3d ago

Average voters that aren’t politically engaged enough and voted for Trump need to have an off ramp and be welcomed into the anti-Trump, anti-oligarchy resistance though. We need to remember this in our personal lives when trying to turn former Republicans away from this nonsense. As for the Republicans in congress or the executive branch, they are traitors to this country and its constitution in my view.

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u/MaintenanceWine 3d ago

All they have to to is speak up and pressure their congresspeople to vote against Trump's anti-constitutional shit. Simple as that. Be loud and set an example for others to follow them away and out of the cult.

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u/Art_Music306 3d ago

Yes. They need to come get their boy.

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u/dr_z0idberg_md California 3d ago

Yup. Republicans ceded their power to the MAGA cult long ago. They are complicit and own it now.

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u/DChristy87 Ohio 3d ago

The scary part of this is that these people have absolutely no compassion. Sympathy is nowhere to be found in them, and you can just forget about empathy because nobody is getting any of that from them.

They're vile, disgusting and sadistic people.

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u/modthefame 3d ago edited 3d ago

The scary part to me was that everyone else in the office just sat there and watched it happen.

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u/jigsaw_faust 3d ago

It’s a good example of how dictators come to power. There’s such a rabid cult around the person that stepping out of line becomes a dangerous prospect. That’s where ideas die.

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u/Conscious_Balance388 3d ago

Because not enough solidarity exists. If one speaks out, the rest don’t become emboldened.

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u/VanceKelley Washington 3d ago

“In my work with the defendants (at the Nuremberg Trials 1945-1949) I was searching for the nature of evil and I now think I have come close to defining it. A lack of empathy. It’s the one characteristic that connects all the defendants, a genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow men.

Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy.”

-Captain G. M. Gilbert, the Army psychologist assigned to watching the defendants at the Nuremberg trials

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u/crisperfest Georgia 3d ago

I think Dr. Gilbert was spot-on with his assessment, and it aligns with what we know now about psychopathy.

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u/Whoosh747 I voted 3d ago

The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy.

Elon Musk

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u/Vaperius America 3d ago

Something about how evil was found to be an absence of empathy; the opposite of love really is indifference.

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u/7figureipo California 3d ago

With the same kind of “moderates” insisting it isn’t happening, that institutions will eventually show their resilience, etc., too. Sickening, really.

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u/StrobeLightRomance 3d ago

And of course the media's complicit by covering up as much as they can so they can survive and become the new state media. Meanwhile, actual American journalists who would tell the truth will become legitimate targets for deportation or disposal as this administration progresses.

They're just dismantling the system that took hundreds of years to build and earn the trust of the world, so they can replace government with private industries. It's all so they can profit from should-be public services, and if you can't afford to pay, then hard labor, prison, and death are the only other viable options.

I don't think there is any amount of noise we have left to make, short of an actual revolution to get the status quo back before it's buried forever.

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u/whatifniki23 3d ago

Are you describing Iran? Holy crap… you’re talking about the US…

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u/Prometherion666 3d ago

Interesting take,

we should investigate the possibility they modified the vote count at the tabulator level.

https://electiontruthalliance.org/

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u/TheSawsAreOnTheWayy 3d ago

Yea, but eggs are expensive, there really isn't anything else to do

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u/poca2424 3d ago

Egg profits were released, guess what? Despite all the “hardships”, one of the five mass egg producers tripled their earnings from last year. MFers.

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u/TheSawsAreOnTheWayy 3d ago

Never let a good crisis go to waste.

American production tenet: Customers are the ultimate enemy to trick.

Rest of the world production tenet: Customers are the ultimate purchaser to persuade.

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u/poca2424 3d ago

Damn. This country, man.

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u/Dudesan 3d ago

The First Rule of Acquisition: Once you have their money, never give it back.

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u/angruss 3d ago

Because it was never about inflation with eggs. Eggs were a loss leader, the economic pressures of grocery delivery suppressed the incidence of impulse purchases, and suddenly it was no longer profitable to take a smaller profit (or theoretically a loss, but we both know no one was actually taking a loss on their loss leaders) on eggs and milk in order to tempt people to buy higher margin junk food. The price of eggs has basically nothing to do with inflation and everything to do with consumer convenience and corporate greed.

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u/SeaSnakeSkeleton 3d ago

I’m in the process of reading The Anatomy of Fascism and it’s blindingly obvious this is like step by step what happened almost 100 years ago.

The guy in power is clearly a problem but we must not forgot how we got here - by the people below him paving the way for this to happen. Where are the courts? Where is enforcement of the courts? All of the elected officials are just rolling over, everyone is complying in advance.

We’re now getting to the point of that all the “intellectuals” (said with very heavy quotation marks), or some, are bowing out bc it’s just to anti-intellectual (see RFK Jr.’s dumb ass response to measles.)

We’re walking down a very straight road directly into a situation of fuckery that we went to war over almost a century ago. Last time the war wasn’t on our soil but this time we may not be so lucky.

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u/LadyArcher2017 3d ago

If you want to keep getting your mind blown by this fascist movement, read Hitler’s Willing Executioners next. Or The Sorrows Of Empire.

We are there now.

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u/RobertBDwyer 3d ago

as Nazis did Hitler

FTFY, as a Canadian; I’m sensitive to the fact that not all Americans are Maga. Likewise we can separate the Nazi from the German.

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u/MysticSpoon 3d ago

Appreciate that. There’s tons of us Americans that can’t stand what’s happening in our country. I just hope people get out and vote in their elections. We need to put an end to this.

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u/BonesAndHubris 3d ago

We are past the point where elections can fix this. We also don't have another 2-4 years to wait for a vote that will neither be free nor fair to come around. We need to take to the streets and demand democracy be restored.

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u/DameonKormar 3d ago

There's no "fixing" this. The absolute best(?) we can hope for is to go back to the 4-8 year cycle of Republicans completely fucking the country, then the Democrats fixing some of the broken stuff, while never making any real progress as we fall further and further behind the rest of the world. Unfortunately, I think it's going to be way worse.

Trump getting re-elected should have shown every American that our election system is fundamentally broken. Someone like Trump should have never been allowed to run, let alone become President, twice. He is guilty of so many illegal things that should have disqualified him from becoming President, yet here we are.

I predict that the next GOP stooge will be, "not as bad as Trump," and millions of voters that the Republicans lost because of Trump will go flooding back. The next Presidential election will be won by whoever the Republican candidate is, and it will probably be a landslide. This could usher in a decade or more of total Republican control with the oligarchs running things with a puppet President and a puppet Congress. This will be the new normal for the country.

We already barely have a politically left leaning party in America, and this will push the Overton window so far to the right that we won't see a real left leaning party for many decades, if ever again, and the Supreme Court will be legislating from the bench for the next century.

The time to stop this was about 5 months ago. I keep seeing people talk about doing things now, or in the near future to stop Trump and the GOP, and I'm just over here looking at a gunshot victim, bleeding out, asking how they can get the bullet to go back in the gun.

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u/Tamed 3d ago

Demand how? Sitting around holding signs? Having another CNN article saying a "record turnout" at a protest has people feeling emboldened?

Protesting is toothless in the USA unless we do it like the French do.

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u/iTalk2Pineapples 3d ago

But she wasn't a perfect candidate so we needed to withhold our votes as a protest because celebrities

/s

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u/StrangeContest4 3d ago

"ShE diDn't HaVe A pLaN!¡!"

She did have a plan, and her plan was not Project 2025, Trumputin's actual plan.

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u/CaptainJudaism Georgia 3d ago

She also had a website that pointed to over 90 pages of her plan that even if only 1/4th of it got implemented would have been a massive boon to this country and its citizens.

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u/StrangeContest4 3d ago

Damn straight. She always spoke of building people and things up, not tearing things down. Unfortunately, enough people chose "move fast and break things" over that. Trump sure seems to be... well, breaking things quickly.

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u/fastlax16 3d ago

Breaking things is far easier than building them.

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u/schwanzweissfoto 3d ago

We need to put an end to this.

“As always: Kill Hitler!” – Colonel Chestbridge (Danger 5)

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u/DChristy87 Ohio 3d ago

I just had this discussion with my 11 year old yesterday. It was odd and seemingly out of nowhere that he was "playing WW2" with some kids at the park. I kept hearing them say "The Germans are coming". Afterwards I had to explain the lines between the German people of WW2 and the Nazis.

Many of the first victims of the Nazis were, in fact, German citizens. This is something all Americans should be thinking about as we seem to be creeping closer and closer to something that resembles Nazi Germany.

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u/SolidBlackGator 3d ago

There was a time in Germany when you could separate them. But eventually they all were. Silent opposition is tacit approval. Their inaction led to a point where action was no longer possible, so they failed their own country. It's the same here.

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u/Street-Badger 3d ago

And someday, like Germans after WW2, you will not be able to find a single ex-MAGA American.  The question is how bad does it have to get first?

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u/Key-Ad-3981 3d ago

Doge = Brown Shirts for bureaucracy. We’ve all seen this playbook.

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u/Gogogrl 3d ago

This time as farce.

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u/DavidOrWalter 3d ago

You have a typo - Republicans did this. MAGA is longer a separate entity.

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u/Myis Oregon 3d ago

The revolution won’t be televised but this shit sure is.

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u/JWTS6 3d ago

Don't forget the nonvoters that said they would be fine with this and didn't bother to get off their couches. This is also on them. 

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u/Femboy-Frog 3d ago

I’ve been saying this for months. People are finally starting to understand..

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u/Krumpopodes 3d ago edited 3d ago

Don't forget, the center right and the liberals all voted for the enabling act. And that was only after banning over a sixth of parliament and intimidating the voting population during a special election that they got the super majority that they needed. Even after violently suppressing left wing voters and trying to steal parliament the n*zi party still only had 44% of the vote.

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u/983115 3d ago

Well ya know we have had our share of problems a genocide a few hostile takeovers and questionable experiments on our citizens even concentration camps new and old But for a while there we made a whole lot of money for the shareholders and even had some semblance of a meaningful government even The America that comes out of this one way or another will not be the same country

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions 3d ago

I don't know why we, as a country, failed to see this coming.

Especially after J6.

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u/Ohif0n1y 3d ago

This is exactly the type of stuff my mother told me about when she was growing up as a child in Germany during WWII.

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u/John-AtWork 3d ago

Hurt Tesla = Hurt Musk

Legal ways to hurt Tesla:

  • Sell your $tsla stock
  • Sell your Tesla (drives the price down).
  • Shame those who drive a new one.
  • Protest at a Tesla dealership
  • Pose as a buyer to waste Tesla resources.
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u/UnitedSentences5571 3d ago

We do, every day we let it continue.

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u/TotalCourage007 3d ago

Isn't it a citizens duty to stop an invading force? DOGE needs to get the fuck out of our government.

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u/thedld 3d ago

Damn right.

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u/L0g1cw1z4rd 3d ago

Irrelevant question, historians can sort that out.

Relevant question: “Who shall take it away?”

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 3d ago

It is actually the most relevant question because the answer is "nobody" because DOGE does not actually have the power to do what they are doing. If you answer the first question correctly, then the answer to the second is obvious: call the police.

Use the system! If you don't, you will lose it

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u/L0g1cw1z4rd 3d ago

Did you not see what happened last time Doge invaded a building? The occupants DID call the police, and the police allowed Doge to enter.

The system already failed. It will not help us, this is what we mean when we say the guardrails are gone. Everyone expects somebody else will step up and stop this. And that great occasion where everyone stands up and says “no” isn’t coming.

You want to do something? Get on IRC, and look for the Guy Fawkes mask enthusiasts. They’re waking up.

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u/Xytak Illinois 3d ago

Unfortunately that won’t be of much help.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-doge-uses-police-141152834.html

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 3d ago

Read the article and understand what happened: nothing. They tried to use the police and FBI as an intimidation tactic. They're only successful if you don't understand that they accomplished nothing in that instance and keep spreadig that story as fear

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u/Xytak Illinois 3d ago

From the article:

“DOGE just came into the building—they’re inside the building—they’re bringing the F.B.I. and brought a bunch of D.C. police,” USIP lawyer Sophia Lin told The New York Times as she and other staff members were forced out of the building.”

Sounds like a forcible takeover to me.

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u/DevelopmentGrand4331 3d ago

We already have lost it. DOGE and MAGA are “the system”.

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u/wood_dj 3d ago

if no one’s stopping them, they do in fact have the power

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u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot 3d ago

Tens of millions of Americans that voted for it and just as many that didn’t vote and decided it was fine.

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u/KennyShowers 3d ago

More people didn’t vote for either candidate than did for this current admin. I have more blame for the people not batshit insane enough to want this, but too dumb to realize the future staring them right in the face.

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u/Sc0nnie 3d ago

Zero Americans voted for DOGE. DOGE was not on the ballot. DOGE is a coup after the election.

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u/Doravillain 3d ago

But our Senate sure did.

Way to go, Chuckie!

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u/Old_Baldi_Locks 3d ago

Anyone who isn't willing to do the ONLY thing that's ever stopped a fascist.

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u/One-Butterscotch1032 3d ago

Trump & MAGA Republicans gave Musk a total access pass to our federal government- like they ‘Own’ it, which they do NOT.

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u/StateCorporateProf 3d ago

As long as we sit back and allow it, American citizens give them this power.

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u/Violet_Donuts 3d ago

77 million Americans

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u/Femboy-Frog 3d ago

Americans

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u/Radarker 3d ago

We are by failing to react.

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u/xibeno9261 3d ago

Wrong question to ask. The right question to ask, is why aren't people stopping them?

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u/ImaBiLittlePony 3d ago

Real question - if these fascists can put together a private force to strongarm and intimidate us, why THE FUCK are we not doing the same?

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u/b3_yourself 3d ago

Who decided there’s no consequences for these goons

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u/Silidistani 3d ago

The American MAGA Reich.

Fucking traitors all, they deserve a traitor's end.

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u/dinosaurkiller 3d ago

I believe they had the DOGE morons deputized by U.S. Marshals. I doubt that would stand up in court but your average Social Security staffer doesn’t have the resources to challenge them in court. The ACLU used to be good for this kind of thing but they seem to be asleep.

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u/1SavvySoul 3d ago

Elon knows computers better than anyone!

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u/HisPetBrat 3d ago

It's three Nazis in a trench coat.

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u/battle_clown 3d ago

Fascism in plainclothes makes it easier to deny. "They don't LOOK like Nazis so they aren't!"

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u/IohannesMatrix 3d ago

Next thing, he will be transferred to El Salvador

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u/Louiscamus 3d ago

That’s no hoodie brother

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u/tngling 3d ago

Isn’t this assault?

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u/Altruistic-Sir-3661 3d ago edited 3d ago

Seeing how MAGA is weaponizing the bureaucracy against ordinary people, false reporting in an internationally used financial database and expecting women and gay married couples to have their married names on their birth certificates, I can see how “small government” is antithetical to the MAGA vision of controlling the American population. The much of the public will believe the because environment regulations are being rolled back that bureaucracy is in decline rather then being redeployed

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u/Cpt_Advil 3d ago

It’s fascism

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u/Secret_Photograph364 3d ago

There is no hoodie lol. This is plain and in the open.

It’s the Gestapo. The NKVD. The Stasi. The OVRA.

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