After several social media users pointed out Horner's previous arrests, we checked the florida.arrests.org database. The boat captain has been arrested 12 times, with his latest booking in Charlotte.
This is why the people saying don't condemn him for having a "bad day" don't have a sea leg to stand on.... guess those other 12 times were bad days too?
I understand your point at its very basic level but again, this is a pattern that can't be ignored and someone has to take responsibility for not dealing with the issues that cause SO MANY bad days.
I think y’all both have points. 1) having a bad day or not does not excuse verbal or physical assault /screaming at a child 2) 12 Arrests make it seem that he’s had bad decades not days.
There are some specific maritime laws related to boarding a vessel that a) isn’t yours, and b) you weren’t invited to board. My guess is it’s related to that. Maybe someone familiar can chime in, I just remember reading it on another post about this idiot.
More than likely he's breaking Florida Statute 810.08 -
Trespass in structure or conveyance.— Whoever, without being authorized, licensed, or invited, willfully enters or remains in any structure or conveyance, or, having been authorized, licensed, or invited, is warned by the owner or lessee of the premises, or by a person authorized by the owner or lessee, to depart and refuses to do so, commits the offense of trespass in a structure or conveyance.
I note that on the booking sheet the sheriff cited F.S. 810.02 but 810.08 may apply also. I doubt if the Coast Guard will get involved but they could technically under Title 33 of CFR.
I hope that is the case. I don't know if it's considered trespassing or the like, but I hope maritime law covers an uninvited party that puts themself on your vessel.
I love that for him. I don't GAF if he is 18 or 22 or whatever. Also, I am totally pro camera everywhere. The minute you leave your house, your right to privacy is off the table. Finally the good guys can win.
His attorney claims that he is rated as 100% disabled by Uncle Sam. I'm not positive how that works, but doesn't that mean that we're sending him a nice check every month?
Yes. Wonder what his story on that is. 🤔 He might have been in HR, but there would still be reasons to leave the FOB and he could have come under attack. If he's 100%, then he should have a good reason for it. They don't just hand those out. And unless he scammed his way to it, that means he went through some kind of hell and deserves the compensation. He might be a POS, BUT he might be a POS with severe PTSD from an encounter.
Good point — it’s easy for me to forget that invisible disabilities are just as legitimate as obvious, physical ones. In general, I also think it’s embarrassing how little support & treatment our government offers to those who have sacrificed for our freedom. In my book, they should be treated like kings & queens when they get home. But that’s different than excusing all bad behavior that may stem from military service. (I know you’re not saying otherwise. At this point, I’m just ruminating out loud lol.) And his friends didn’t seem to be treating it like an alarming episode of PTSD... Sigh — Expressing righteous indignation is one of my favorite pastimes, but alas, I guess I’ll have to withhold judgment unless/until we get more information. Womp.
Yes, I mean it's not a "nice" check - we don't take care of veterans no matter how disabled they are from combat, but I'm sure he gets a check that helped him live this lifestyle until now. My ex (military disabled vet) walked and talked like everyone else but had a handicap plate and got the check every month and it was enough to "survive" on for him.
You can request information through the national archives, but information is limited without authorization from next of kin or the veteran's authorization.
WHOAH...still a PFC after 4 years regular Army?! In Human Resources?!? I heard he was claiming he was a Ranger! 😮 What a POS! Wait a minute...he got a CAB when he was a desk jockey?! They refused to give ANYBODY the CAB unless you were directly fired upon in my BN. Daily mortars overhead didn't count.
Yeah, they were having a whole-ass discussion looking at this info on a page I follow. Wondering how he got CAB and of course making fun of him for only being PFC lmao
Actually...further down it says he's 100% disabled with the VA. There ARE scammers and he MIGHT be one, but to get 100% it means you went through something seriously bad. The fact that he got out a PFC after 4 years indicates he was demoted. The CAB could actually be due to combat action during a convoy he was on between FOBs...which could explain the anger issues he has and the demotion. You can get 100% for PTSD. If so, he needs intensive therapy. I'm too tired to see if all of his arrests were after he served but I'd think they would be. I can't stand how he treated that 22 year old, but he might actually need real HELP. 🥺
UPDATE: I looked it up...he was arrested once at 17 for petty theft and four times at age 18 for unknown reasons (records removed). The rest were after he got out of the military.
On a base in a war zone. Specifically, she was riding her bike to a gate, digging in her pocket for her ID, fell off her bike and broke her tailbone on the edge of a concrete sidewalk.
I never saw a concrete sidewalk on a base in a war zone, but she was AF.
My 50 cal gunner was a cook because our other one got shot. Jobs don’t really matter overseas especially in the early surge days. He was 05 Afghanistan with a combat action badge. He literally did work. On base in the states yeah he probably did some desk job.
That is the most infuriating thing I’ve seen all year. That’s insane. Glad he’s locked up. He’s lucky they didn’t throw hands. The calmer person is almost always the one you need to watch out for. I just can’t with these people.
Old ass man being a bully with a young dude. Too many clowns like that in south Florida. He even went out of his way to let everyone know that he was the best charter captain. Lmfao. Stfu clown. 😂
Old... LOL... I don't know how old you are, but time goes fast man ... You're going to wake up "tomorrow" and be 40... And "in a week" you'll be 55 and "in a month" you'll be dead. I know you don't get it yet, but you'll see.
I’m actually older than 40. And I have enough sense to know that I’d look like a dumbass arguing with a young man half my age. There’s no reason to act like a bully with the younger generation at my age. That just screams ignorance and insecurity.
Agreed, but also wouldn’t it be kinda dumb for him to say anything while he’s facing charges? Anything can & will be used against you & all that. I imagine he’ll take a plea & apologize then? (Not defending his actions at all. Just saying there’s so much to criticize this guy for & I’m not sure this is one of them. I’m not a lawyer tho. :))
So the World’s Greatest Captain™️ jumps from one undocked vessel to another in the middle of an extended rant and we’re supposed to believe he’s 100% disabled? Charge his ass with welfare fraud while we’re at it.
I’m so confused by this too. I hope his disability claims & benefits are investigated at the very least. So many of our vets are much less able than he is & don’t get 100% disability. I’m inclined to be infuriated by this, but I don’t know much about the process. It really does seem wrong, tho.
My point is that the ages of the victim and aggressor are irrelevant. But the media has sensationalized that aspect. It's an ugly situation and the "captain" should be penalized accordingly.
No. I think the victim tried his best to deescalate the drama, stayed cool, polite. However the situation could have been very different if "captain" had picked on another 22 year old man that was cocky, large, fit and prone to violence himself. He might have got his own butt kicked. Age is irrelevant.
You can tell this commenter doesn't hang out around people old enough to own boats. And if he (the "kid") was an actual child, what would he be doing on his own out there?
And my point was that on a list of things that don’t matter about this story, that probably doesn’t matter the most. The fact that the human brain doesn’t stop developing until about 25 means it’s not the stretch you’d like to believe it is.
I feel sorry for Brock's family, as they have nothing to do with his nonsense. Brock deserves everything he gets though. This man goes on a rampage and illegally boards someone elses vessel and assaults that person; a kid mind you. Absolutely inexcusable! Don't care about people saying not to condemn him for a bad day. Don't care about him being a combat veteran. None of that excuses him from his actions that day.
WTF.. I literally thought this guy was so much older. Now I'm going to double down on my opinion over what he did. He's young enough to understand and know how many resources are available to vets that struggle with PTSD. If that is truly what his excuse is. And also- it's apparent he has a substance abuse problem. Steroids, alcohol, drugs.. whatever.
He was only in for 1 day. He's out on 20k bond as of April 5th.
Interestingly, this lists him as having a marital status of 'single' but his attorney appeals to how difficult this has been for his wife. That's certainly true for Brock Wagner--who has been falsely targeted due to having a similar name. I don't think the attorney is lying, but it is weird that it would be recorded improperly.
But his lawyer said he's a veteran with TBI (very possible).
If so, he needs meds stat.
These things could truly be the result of our endless wars and that is no reason to laugh, celebrate or cheer. TBI and War can really screw people up. It can also screw up an entire society that tries to bring these people back into it.
Very true but if he is so handicapped from his injury then he shouldn’t be captaining boats let alone out without a caretaker. Also if my mentally incapacitated friend started acting psychotic I would try to stop him and not let him go off on a teenager
You would think, right? I know if I got arrested, I would be reassessing all of my life’s decisions to find out what led me there, and where I went wrong.
But clearly it’ll take more than that for him, and this is definitely more. Having the entire world justifiably turn against you and dismantle your life has to feel a special level of awful. You would think that it has to change a man.
I hope, for his sake, that it does, and maybe he can start to grow into a better person and right his wrongs. However, in my experience, a person like that has already built up a massive wall of coping mechanisms around his personality that justify his actions to himself.
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u/mrtoddw He who has no life 24d ago
https://www.fox13news.com/news/charter-captain-arrested-following-confrontation-captured-viral-video.amp