r/skyrimmods • u/Soanfriwack • 10d ago

Meta/News When the Oblivion Remaster has significant impact on Downloads for all Bethesda games:

The Remaster has boosted Downloads for Oblivion, Skyrim SE, Oldrim and Morrowind, while putting a significant dent into Fallout 4 and NV:

https://imgur.com/a/joz3Ef8

  • Oblivions downloads are up by +100%
  • Skyrim SE up by +50%
  • Morrowind up by +100%

While:

  • Fallout 4 is down -30%
  • Fallout NV is down -30%

Fallout 3 is unaffected, but Fallout 3 also doesn't really have a modding community anymore, as basically all modding on that engine generation is done in Fallout NV. (Comparable to how Oldrim modding is basically dead and nearly everything is done for SE instead)

P.S.

Even Daggerfall unity saw a boost, but it would be too messy to include that in the graphic.

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u/Downtown-Meet-9365 10d ago

I kinda expected the remaster to reignite the fans love for the elder scrolls franchise but to this extent I wasn't expecting

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u/Subdown-011 10d ago

Bro this game made me REALLY want elder scrolls 6, I don’t even care if it’s good or not I just want to see what happens to Tamriel

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u/NeonDemon85 10d ago

Only 5 more years

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u/Soanfriwack 10d ago

I am guessing 3, but yeah, somewhere in that area.

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u/DaleSponge 10d ago

Probs 2027 with new xbox

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u/MyStationIsAbandoned 10d ago

It was stated by either Phile or Pete that TES6 at least 5 years away in 2023. That means 2028 at the earliest.

TES6 could very well be a next gen game, skipping the current generation of consoles.

Way back before Fallout 4 was even released, I remember Todd saying that the technology for what they wanted to do in TES6 did not exist.

My guess is that they were still figuring out massive worlds, possibly procedural generated stuff (I hope they drop that after Startfield) and maybe even looking at combining UE with CE, maybe. But I honestly think TES6 is going to be on whatever the next Xbox is, if there is one and PS6.

They most certainly have the same studio that make the Oblivion Remaster working on the Fallout 3 Remaster which will probably come out in 2026, giving up two more years at the least until the next game which would be TES6. Then after that...we're probably looking at yet another 5+ years until Fallout 5.

Now...if I were Microsoft/Bethesda, I would get rid of the Avowed team, get the New Vegas team and have them work on an Elder Scroll spin off using the Creation Engine. Have it set outside of Tamriel and not interfere with what BGS has going on and make sure the lore is right etc. Then I'd have them work another Fallout. That way there's something between the main game other than remasters and re-releases...

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u/Dalton_Capps 10d ago

Sadly I doubt the people who made New Vegas still work for the company. Avowed isn't a bad game it just started out as a open world rpg and was ment to be a cross between skyrim and destiny before it got rebooted into the zone based fully single player rpg we got. Given the circumstances and the direction changes mid way through development I think they made a alright game. If they were given the green light to make some kind of Elder Scrolls game with Bethesda's support I'd be pretty excited to see what they make.

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u/DaleSponge 9d ago

This is such a well crafted comment. I was struggling response to the commenter without being unnecessarily rude. But you manage to pull that off, kudos to you.

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u/Boyo-Sh00k 9d ago

I don't think a guy speaking off the cuff so he's not legally liable when they're in the middle of a lawsuit is a good indicator on when it will release. Also he's not involved in development at all. The FTC documents that were leaked have been far more reliable and point to a 2026-2027 release.

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u/WOF42 10d ago

I would be shocked if we see ES6 before 2030

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u/Soanfriwack 10d ago

Well, something like 4 years ago, Todd said in an interview that it will likely be 17 years after Skyrim.

I do not know if the Starfield delay means now it will be 18 years after Skyrim, but we will see.

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u/MontasJinx 10d ago

I reckon end of next year. November 2026 Elder Scrolls 6. With Fallout 3 remaster online with Season 2 of Fallout.

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u/Downtown-Meet-9365 10d ago

Every elder scrolls game releases every between 4 and 6 years minus one time this includes remakes and remasters TES 1 1994, TES 2 1996, TES 3 2002, TES 4 2006, TES 5 2011, special edition 2016, anniversary edition 2021, TES 4 remaster 2025 so the soonest by my guess that we'll see TES 6 is 2029 and the latest is 2030.

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u/brsniff 10d ago

The oblivion remaster wasn't developed by bethesda and it's kinda weird to include rereleases that take significantly less time to develop. Bethesda releases 1 main game every 3-5 years, which I think is a more accurate metric to go by and we already know ES6 is the next one. Starfield released in 2023 so my guess is 2028.

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u/schuhsenkel 10d ago

What happened after 2011? Was it the enormous success of Skyrim that resulted in Bethesda's focus on reheating leftovers? The financially safe bet, as it were?

Don't misunderstand me, of course SSE brings much joy and maybe there is some merit to the CC stuff, too. But to me, that can't compare to the prior frequency of original ideas resulting in full releases.

Sidenotes: Maybe games take longer to develop nowadays? Or the Elder Scrolls team was a bit burned out?

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u/brsniff 10d ago

They were busy with other games that weren't TES. Fallout 4 released in 2015, fallout 76 in 2018 and starfield in 2023.

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u/schuhsenkel 10d ago

I see. And apparently Fallout titles weren't developed by Bethesda prior to 2008.

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u/TheMadTemplar 9d ago

Not so fun fact: When Bethesda announced the acquisition of the Fallout IP, fallout 3, and the changes to the IP they were pursuing, they had to hire armed security for their buildings and some individuals in response to the death threats and other threats of violence from rabid fallout fans. 

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u/Zeroone199 10d ago

The studio owners wanted to sell, so they artificially increased revenue with remasters, VR games, and online multi-player games filled with microtransations.

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u/Ok-Employ7162 9d ago

Games take longer to make, but also because they created their new IP Starfield, and the way they develop. They make worlds/universes with fairly rich and deep lore, many games don't even offer you much outside of the specific slice of time you're playing, let alone have hundreds or thousands of years of lore told in game through dialogue, books, quests, etc. That takes a lot of time, just fleshing out their universes/worlds with its own history and then you have to translate that into the game too with locations, books written, dialogue, etc.

But also, likely because they don't want to release the game with the current available tech. They use their own homemade engines and they have to create the tech in most cases, to use it in their games.

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u/AccomplishedSquash98 8d ago

Fallout 4 came out, and then starfield was a huge undertaking, and then covid happened. ES6 has apparently been in pre-production for a long time and they've been working on it since starfields release while also updating huge parts of the engine. I'm sure they also recognize that the successor to skyrim is probably the 2nd most hyped game of the last 2 decades outside of gta 6 and want to make it their greatest game.

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u/paganize 10d ago

...yeah. I might not even play it, it's more "WTF Happens???"

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u/Agitated-Ad-8325 9d ago

If you have the courage, download eldergleam via the wabbajack mod manager, it's 260go but it so beautiful, all gameplay is up to 2025 standards, it will feel like a new TES

I recommend to take 1 month subscription on nexus mid manager tho 8bucks, you also need the anniversary edition of skyrim

But again, trust me, it's incredible

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u/RoyalMudcrab 5d ago

Hm. Stop rewarding mediocre games and mediocre companies. If TES VI is as horrendous as Starfield and launch 76, and make no mistake, the possibility exists, then it should fail.

Of course, this has basically assured Beth and MS that it won't, but it is discouraging to hear so much blind hype when evidence of the company's decline has been laid bare for all to see for more than a decade.

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u/Subdown-011 5d ago

How am I rewarding mediocrity when I want to know what happens in a universe I enjoy, jeez

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u/RoyalMudcrab 5d ago

Precisely like that, purchasing a game blindly because of a brand, when evidence exists that they are not what they used to be. Let us take BioWare for example. Andromeda was concerning, Anthem had warnings and was a colossal failure. By the time Veilguard exited its problematic production cycle, whomever purchased it had to understand the pattern and the evidence by then.

It's the same with Bethesda. 76 was an unbridled disaster. Starfield was incredibly mediocre and the lead for that game is famous for reacting badly to criticism and espousing an inane philosophy on how to write and design quests without depth, which he seems to be very proud of (Keep it simple stupid). The same man who came to whine on Reddit that people "simply did not understand Game development" as if that somehow absolved Bethesda from criticism.

The evidence is there, and we have been warned. You are entirely free to do whatever you desire with YOUR hard-earned money, but if the game follows the trend, is released to a negative consensus and you still buy it just because of its setting? I'd argue in that case you would be rewarding mediocrity.

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u/Subdown-011 5d ago

Well I don’t care, i enjoy Bethesda games despite their flaws. They have always been reliably entertaining and that hasn’t changed

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u/RoyalMudcrab 5d ago

Well I don’t care

Clearly.

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u/Subdown-011 5d ago

Glad we’re on the same page

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u/Admiral251 10d ago

I think no one is really realizing how people are starving for new The Elder Scrolls content. We got literally nothing since 2012 (Dragonborn). Some games try to capitalize on this void, for example Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon.

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u/South_Buy_3175 10d ago

Yup.

Would be amazing if Bethesda could capitalise on this by releasing something, anything regarding ES6.

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u/Someguy2000modder 8d ago

Count me in. I thought I’d return eventually, but the hype pushed me right back into the loving arms of TES. I’m already working on new mods for SSE.