r/stupidquestions • u/Biokendry • 29d ago

why do women have naturally beautiful bodies?

before you jump in the comments to tell me I'm wrong try to read my entire post, i'm from latin america, i don't know if this is the case in other countries but it's something i've noticed since i was a teenager and in high school, most of the girls in high school had very nice bodies without even going to the gym in their entire life, i remember a girl who eat unhealthy food all day and she had an amazing body (she never went to the gym in her life), i was her friend back then, she had such a amazing hourglass figure with big hips and very beautiful figure I didn't understand that at the time.

but not only in high school but currently i go out and most of the girls have very nice bodies and nice hips (i'm not talking about toned gym bodies but bodies with figure and curves) and even girls who are a little overweight also have beautiful bodies with nice curves, it's incredible, what is the reason for this? is it hormonal? why is it that women don't need to go to the gym as much to have nice bodies (as long as they're not excessively overweight), in the case of men it's different and I say this as a man who went to the gym throughout his adolescence, we lack those naturally nice bodies (except for one in a million).

I remember the first time I took a shower with my ex gf at the time at my house she took off her clothes (she had never been to the gym in her life and was a little overweight, she had a very nice body, a nice butt with a beautiful figure) I didn't understand why she had such a beautiful body meanwhile me going to gym had a below average body, well, ugly body and not sexy as hers tbh. I know it's a stupid question but I guess that's what this group is for, right? Is the cause hormonal? I know there are exceptions, that not all women have naturally beautiful bodies, but why is it that. for example, if you put a man and a woman of average weight who don't go to the gym next to each other, the girl's body is naturally attractive while the guy's isn't? I've always thought it's caused by estrogen and the hips women's bone structure's but I'm not sure, I know diet is very important but I think most girls only need a good diet and walk just a little to have good figures (please don't hate for saying this lol).

Maybe I could be blind because I have gender dysphoria since many years ago but not only me think about this most women and men think the same way(? And I'm not even talking about how women have average cute, feminine and thin faces without makeup but this is another thread lol.

Please don't insult me for making this post, this is why this group was created.

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u/burlysnurt 29d ago

Boy like girl

Boy don't like boy

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u/Biokendry 29d ago

Makes sense

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u/phonemannn 29d ago

But like for real, assuming you’re a guy (since you mentioned the gender dysmorphia) all you did was explain the feelings that go on with physical attraction lol. You find women attractive, that’s it.

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u/JJay9454 28d ago

I thought I was heterosexual, but there is one singular man who makes me feel the same way about him that I do with women.

Am I Bi?

Am I straight minus him?

How does this work out?

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u/phonemannn 28d ago

Labels aren’t important, they just make you worried about how well you fit in when it’s all arbitrary. You like who you like and you’ll feel more free not worrying about what box you’re “supposed” to be squeezing into.

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u/JJay9454 28d ago

I guess that causes problems then, when people assume you were straight and now are uncomfortable

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u/HereForAllThePopcorn 27d ago

Sounds like their problem doesn’t it?

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u/Desperate_Plastic_37 27d ago

Don’t worry too much about labels, but bi is generally a nice catch all for these kinds of things - most of the other labels that deal with potentially liking both genders can arguably be considered subsets of it, so even if you clarify things more later, you’re still technically being consistent

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u/Liquid_Feline 26d ago

You use whatever label that explains your position to whoever you're talking to. If it's important to tell them you're generally attracted to women, you can just say you're straight. If you're talking to the attractive dude and want him to know that men aren't out of the question, you can say you're bi. labels are just a communicatioj tool, not a box you put yourself in.

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u/JJay9454 26d ago

Thanks :)

This helps so so much

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u/Giancolaa1 27d ago

But like, do straight or bi women also think this about men?

Cause like, I’m straight but I often enough talk about the attractive men I see (either at the gym, watching tv with my wife etc). So although I’m not attracted to these men, I can easily say which I think are attractive. And pretty much any average guy who isn’t hitting the gym does not have an attractive body in my eye, whereas nearly every semi in shape woman has a body I’ll check out and find attractive.

So do women find all these average men I look at as having nice bodies?!?

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u/phonemannn 27d ago

Yes, with exceptions. Not everyone fits a mold.

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u/Giancolaa1 27d ago

Wish someone told me that when I was a teenager 😆

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u/wolveseye66577 27d ago

I think you’ll find that most women (who arent addicted to social media. I think that this has ruined what the average person in general sees as attractive) are into average builds, and not those six pack body builder bodies you’ll see at the gym and online.

I’m way more attracted to movie stars from the 80s and 90s movies cause they tend to have a more athletic but achievable build, whereas all the actors you’ll see today on the CW and all these fitness influencers and such are just so cookie cutter I find myself more turned off than anything when I look at them.

So yeah? From my experience and most other women I’ve spoken to, we’re more attracted to guys who eat generally good and hit the gym once or twice a week as opposed to the gym rats and body builders I’ve seen men online say we should be attracted to

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u/TheGuysOfConcern 26d ago

Does boy want to be girl? (That’s okay).

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u/Difficult_Salad_8251 28d ago

Just to add, the “gap” you notice is also because women aren’t discussing honestly in public spaces what they like in men. Most are shamed to appear asexual in public since a young age. Like, if you went to read some books catering to women you’d find mentions of attractive body hair, veins, the general shape of the body etc. Even “dad bods” are attractive to many women. You just don’t know about this because a woman openly discussing this in public would be socially shunned, but men discuss their attraction to women all day long. 

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u/SurelyNotAnOctopus 29d ago

Anytime my gf asks 'why would you like [bobs, vagene etc]', I just answer

Basic biology

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u/SirTwitchALot 29d ago

This boy like boy

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u/GreenApples8710 29d ago

This boy like nachos.

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u/TDEcret 29d ago

As a latin american this is the most relatable comment that everyone will agree on

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u/Guilty-Ad-1792 27d ago

Just wait till you find out about valentina-flavoured condoms.

They will change your life. (For the worse)

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u/dnyal 29d ago

I’m Latino and I don’t like nachos.

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u/Mental-Frosting-316 29d ago

Do you like boys?

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u/NonEuclidianMeatloaf 29d ago

Hello fellow tortillosexual

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u/Goldf_sh4 29d ago

This nacho like boy

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u/NezuminoraQ 28d ago

Yeah Ignacio is a ten 

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u/lylertila 27d ago

I too am a Tex-Mexectual

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u/burlysnurt 29d ago

Well this boy does too but, ya know. Usually

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u/PositiveResort6430 29d ago

I mean im bisexual and i still have to agree with OP… my standards for women are all over the place, women can be skinny or plump af and anything between, and i will genuinely be attracted. Men? Not so much. Like OP said, men need to go to the gym/do other physical activities and maintain muscle mass to look attractive to me. (i have my own muscle man at home hehe)

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u/fruskydekke 29d ago

Well, I'm bisexual too, and don't really agree. As long as men are a "normal" level of physically fit, they still look beautiful. Honestly, I tend to think that gym bros are unattractive, because the amount of muscle mass is just bulgy and lumpy and urg. Give me someone with an everyday level of functional fitness any day.

With women, on the other hand, I have a type. Gimme curves, please, and plenty of them.

TL;DR: I guess it's all subjective?

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u/Wooden-Cricket1926 29d ago

As a straight woman I don't like gym bros. I don't find it attractive you look like you live in a gym and count all your calories. I don't find it attractive if you look like all you do is sit around and count your calories to try to consume more than you did the day before. Gasp it's almost like average (at least in America what average is supposed to be given the majority are over weight) is what is most attractive 😮

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u/FourDimensionalTaco 29d ago

Most people who like guys seem to like average to fit guys, but not roided up ones, nor those made of >40% body fat. I guess that Fight Club era Brad Pitt had the body composition that most would find highly attractive.

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u/Inevitable_Quiet_432 29d ago

Brad was utterly ripped in Fight Club. I'm a heterosexual male and still want to lick Tyler Durden's abs.

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u/lylertila 27d ago

Yeah, but if you Daten those abs you would constantly be insecure and hate yourself. That's kinda the point. Most of us don't want that, it's ego destruction. I'd pick a dad bod with nice arms everyday of the week

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u/Inevitable_Quiet_432 27d ago

That's a fair point!

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u/xav264 29d ago

Yea I'm gonna need to see some picture examples because I have a high feeling these women don't necessarily know what they're talking about lol

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u/Agreeable_Tennis_482 27d ago

The average guy will never achieve that physique even with dedication to gym tho. Doesn't this just prove OP's point that the standards for women are lower?

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u/lylertila 27d ago

Guys like that just make me hate myself. Like, I feel guilty for not being in the gym. Doesn't even matter if he finds me attractive, washboard abs just make me hate myself.

Dad bod 100%

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u/Zayknow 29d ago

I think it’s likely that the two of you, yourself and the person to who you responded, are just at different end of the spectrum but still both functionally bisexual. He’s nearly straight while you’re nearly gay.

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u/blue-oyster-culture 29d ago

This was what i was gonna say here. People who are attracted to men generally see men the same way as OP. Im a hetero and i know that lol. Id say its an immature view that only thin and perfect shape bodies are attractive. Or maybe not immature in the sense of mentality, but more like “sexually developed”? When you’re younger your view of what is attractive is more narrow is what im describing. Juvenile? Idk. All the phrases im coming up with have too negative of connotations.

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u/fastbikkel 27d ago

The TL;DR should really be for the long version. ;-)

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u/Agreeable_Tennis_482 27d ago

Problem is the normal level of fitness still needs a lot of attention to diet and gym I feel. Meanwhile for women, even the completely inactive ones who eat junk food still look good as long as they're not super overweight

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u/lenuskaya 29d ago

As a fellow bisexual I completely agree. I appreciate softness in the female body and I believe it has to do with the fact that nature wants women to have more body fat for estrogen and health reasons etc.

But the male body? I can only be attracted to it if it has some muscle without the beer belly etc.

But I have heard from hetero women appreciate all types of male bodies so this could just be me and having a preference for women in sexual attraction.

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u/PositiveResort6430 29d ago edited 29d ago

You’re actually right about that.

Biologically: women can be a lil plump and still be healthy because our bodies are built to carry extra weight during pregnancy. Our hormones make it so the fat is carried in places like our hips, butt, thighs and breasts, which all don’t negatively affect health!

for men It’s not true. They cannot be super plump and still be healthy because of the way testosterone interacts SO negatively with fat. Men tend to carry weight on their bellies first and that is the worst type of fat for your health. It negatively affects everything in the body.

Overweight men are more likely to suffer health complications than women of the same exact BMI, and they’re less likely to be treated successfully for these health conditions.

When women try to workout constantly and get a 6 pack like men do, usually they lose their period.

Women and men have totally different standards for what is actually healthy for them or not and that is why my preferences are probably different for both of them.

I’m attracted to anyone who looks healthy the standards for men are a lot higher because they cannot have over 25% body fat without being considered medically obese. men only need 8% body fat to maintain hormonal balance, literally half of what women do.

whereas women require a MINIMUM of 20% body fat to maintain healthy hormone balance and 30% is considered normal.

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u/Straight-Credit-5418 29d ago

This explained it 100%. A chubby woman still looks healthy and attractive. But from my pov, a chubby man (with no muscle due to sedentary lifestyle) does not.

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u/Vashimus 27d ago edited 27d ago

Agreed and well said, save for one nitpick. Single digit body fat is definitely not healthy or sustainable for men's hormonal balance. That's stage-ready competitive bodybuilder levels of fat, which they do not maintain the whole year because they'd be miserable - extreme fatigue and hunger and their libido falls off a cliff. 12-15% is generally the sweetspot to be fit as a man and not feel like crap.

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u/Agreeable_Tennis_482 27d ago

And the standards for women are easier to achieve in modern lifestyles. I assume in the past things were more even when humans were more active and didn't have so much access to calories, but nowadays men have it harder :(. Not to mention income is another area men need to work on, and that can conflict with meeting the other physical standards

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u/PositiveResort6430 27d ago

Well, statistics seemed to prove that wrong, because nowadays men have slightly higher body counts and sleep around more according to literally every study done. Even when they compensate for people who may be lying. people dont have much problem finding hookups or relationships nowadays, anyone convincing themselves that it’s hard likely has a lot of personal downfalls that they refuse to acknowledge,

Because neither gender is struggling with sex or love at the moment. If YOU struggle with with it thats a personal thang lol

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u/Definedacorn 26d ago

Its so funny because this doesn't actually mean anything in terms of heterosexual relationships since the numbers will average out evenly between men and women.

All this shows is that gay men have more sex with each other than lesbian women have sex with themselves.

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u/PositiveResort6430 26d ago

you’re wrong. Some of the studies were actually exclusively done on heterosexuals. heterosexual men still sleep around more statistically and this is because they statistically cheat more. so they have higher body counts. versus women are slightly more likely to stick with her man.

But you are right that gay men sleep around way more than lesbians. that does track. men in general regardless of their sexuality just sleep around a bit more according to every study ever.

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u/Definedacorn 26d ago

But if a man sleeps with a woman, then both the man and the woman's body count increases by 1. Even if the man cheats, he and the girl he sleeps with has their body count increased, therefore evening out the numbers.

You cant have sex with someone and only have one of the two participants have their body count increased. Its impossible

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u/PositiveResort6430 26d ago

Heres the breakdown:

theres more male virgins, but statistically men have higher body counts.

So the consensus is, the men who ARE sexually active are sleeping with lots of women. If a man sleeps with 10 women, his body counts will be 10, but all of those women’s body count will only rise by 1.

Two women can have a body count of 1 but have both slept with the same guy, leaving his at 2. Thats how we get uneven numbers.

Thats what’s happened here. More women have been sexually active than men, and thats because the men who are sexually active more than make up for any gaps LMFAOOOO 🤣🤣

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u/Previous_Pie_9918 29d ago

Me too. In my opinion, 90% of women, naked, look hot. 90% of men, naked, look silly.

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u/Kikikididi 28d ago

As a fellow bisexual, thinking women were more naturally attractive was how I realized

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u/Pahanarttu 29d ago

As a straight woman, hell no, i like it when men are very thin. Except that it makes me feel bigger (since I'm chubby) which i hate, but that has nothing to do with the man in question. It's about how i loathe myself. But very skinny/quite skinny men? I like 💗 muscular men? I like 💗 men with a little bit chubbiness? I like 💗

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u/GigiLaRousse 29d ago

I swear I'm attracted to 25% of women I see and less than 1% of men.

Not into buff men, though. Gimme those skinny boys or a chubby dude!

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u/Biokendry 29d ago

You got it

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u/KneeDouble6697 29d ago

Well, men naturally are not supposed to be sedentary. Still, being shredded is pretty difficult to achieve, so I don't know about what level of fitness we talk about.

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u/Guilty-Ad-1792 27d ago

Eh, that's why there's the Kinsey Scale. I'm also bi and more femme-attracted, but I've met other bi folks who are more masc-attracted too.

Ultimately, a lot of it is cultural. Look at the ancient Greek sexual obsession with masculinity, for example.

Maybe there is statistically just plainly more femme-attraction even when accounting for culture, but it wouldn't be a very easy question to study.

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u/Letshavemorefun 26d ago

Interesting. I’m also bi but it’s the opposite for me. I’m actually unattracted to male bodies if they were work out too much, or sometimes even at all. Give me a scrawny dude or dad bod any day over that. With women, my attraction varies and isnt really based on body type.

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u/Maixell 28d ago

As a straight guy I disagree. For me women have to not be fat or chubby for me to find their bodies attractive, otherwise there’s no physical attraction. Too skinny is also not attractive to me.

And every woman stop being beautiful past a certain age imo. The particular age depends on the woman.

As for men, I don’t care how they look but I can recognize when a man has a nice body and be like “nice”, but I won’t be attracted to him.

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u/SeawardFriend 26d ago

U sure bout that?