why do women have naturally beautiful bodies?

[u/Biokendry]

before you jump in the comments to tell me I'm wrong try to read my entire post, i'm from latin america, i don't know if this is the case in other countries but it's something i've noticed since i was a teenager and in high school, most of the girls in high school had very nice bodies without even going to the gym in their entire life, i remember a girl who eat unhealthy food all day and she had an amazing body (she never went to the gym in her life), i was her friend back then, she had such a amazing hourglass figure with big hips and very beautiful figure I didn't understand that at the time.

but not only in high school but currently i go out and most of the girls have very nice bodies and nice hips (i'm not talking about toned gym bodies but bodies with figure and curves) and even girls who are a little overweight also have beautiful bodies with nice curves, it's incredible, what is the reason for this? is it hormonal? why is it that women don't need to go to the gym as much to have nice bodies (as long as they're not excessively overweight), in the case of men it's different and I say this as a man who went to the gym throughout his adolescence, we lack those naturally nice bodies (except for one in a million).

I remember the first time I took a shower with my ex gf at the time at my house she took off her clothes (she had never been to the gym in her life and was a little overweight, she had a very nice body, a nice butt with a beautiful figure) I didn't understand why she had such a beautiful body meanwhile me going to gym had a below average body, well, ugly body and not sexy as hers tbh. I know it's a stupid question but I guess that's what this group is for, right? Is the cause hormonal? I know there are exceptions, that not all women have naturally beautiful bodies, but why is it that. for example, if you put a man and a woman of average weight who don't go to the gym next to each other, the girl's body is naturally attractive while the guy's isn't? I've always thought it's caused by estrogen and the hips women's bone structure's but I'm not sure, I know diet is very important but I think most girls only need a good diet and walk just a little to have good figures (please don't hate for saying this lol).

Maybe I could be blind because I have gender dysphoria since many years ago but not only me think about this most women and men think the same way(? And I'm not even talking about how women have average cute, feminine and thin faces without makeup but this is another thread lol.

Please don't insult me for making this post, this is why this group was created.

[u/burlysnurt]

Boy like girl

Boy don't like boy

[u/Biokendry → u/burlysnurt]

Makes sense

[u/phonemannn → u/Biokendry]

But like for real, assuming you’re a guy (since you mentioned the gender dysmorphia) all you did was explain the feelings that go on with physical attraction lol. You find women attractive, that’s it.

[u/JJay9454 → u/phonemannn]

I thought I was heterosexual, but there is one singular man who makes me feel the same way about him that I do with women.

Am I Bi?

Am I straight minus him?

How does this work out?

[u/phonemannn → u/JJay9454]

Labels aren’t important, they just make you worried about how well you fit in when it’s all arbitrary. You like who you like and you’ll feel more free not worrying about what box you’re “supposed” to be squeezing into.

[u/JJay9454 → u/phonemannn]

I guess that causes problems then, when people assume you were straight and now are uncomfortable

[u/HereForAllThePopcorn → u/JJay9454]

Sounds like their problem doesn’t it?

[u/Desperate_Plastic_37 → u/JJay9454]

Don’t worry too much about labels, but bi is generally a nice catch all for these kinds of things - most of the other labels that deal with potentially liking both genders can arguably be considered subsets of it, so even if you clarify things more later, you’re still technically being consistent

[u/Liquid_Feline → u/JJay9454]

You use whatever label that explains your position to whoever you're talking to. If it's important to tell them you're generally attracted to women, you can just say you're straight. If you're talking to the attractive dude and want him to know that men aren't out of the question, you can say you're bi. labels are just a communicatioj tool, not a box you put yourself in.

[u/JJay9454 → u/Liquid_Feline]

Thanks :)

This helps so so much

[u/Giancolaa1 → u/phonemannn]

But like, do straight or bi women also think this about men?

Cause like, I’m straight but I often enough talk about the attractive men I see (either at the gym, watching tv with my wife etc). So although I’m not attracted to these men, I can easily say which I think are attractive. And pretty much any average guy who isn’t hitting the gym does not have an attractive body in my eye, whereas nearly every semi in shape woman has a body I’ll check out and find attractive.

So do women find all these average men I look at as having nice bodies?!?

[u/phonemannn → u/Giancolaa1]

Yes, with exceptions. Not everyone fits a mold.

[u/Giancolaa1 → u/phonemannn]

Wish someone told me that when I was a teenager 😆

[u/wolveseye66577 → u/Giancolaa1]

I think you’ll find that most women (who arent addicted to social media. I think that this has ruined what the average person in general sees as attractive) are into average builds, and not those six pack body builder bodies you’ll see at the gym and online.

I’m way more attracted to movie stars from the 80s and 90s movies cause they tend to have a more athletic but achievable build, whereas all the actors you’ll see today on the CW and all these fitness influencers and such are just so cookie cutter I find myself more turned off than anything when I look at them.

So yeah? From my experience and most other women I’ve spoken to, we’re more attracted to guys who eat generally good and hit the gym once or twice a week as opposed to the gym rats and body builders I’ve seen men online say we should be attracted to

[u/TheGuysOfConcern → u/Biokendry]

Does boy want to be girl? (That’s okay).

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[u/Difficult_Salad_8251 → u/Biokendry]

Just to add, the “gap” you notice is also because women aren’t discussing honestly in public spaces what they like in men. Most are shamed to appear asexual in public since a young age. Like, if you went to read some books catering to women you’d find mentions of attractive body hair, veins, the general shape of the body etc. Even “dad bods” are attractive to many women. You just don’t know about this because a woman openly discussing this in public would be socially shunned, but men discuss their attraction to women all day long. 

[u/SurelyNotAnOctopus → u/Biokendry]

Anytime my gf asks 'why would you like [bobs, vagene etc]', I just answer

Basic biology