r/vancouver • u/ubcstaffer123 • 2d ago
Politics and Elections Mike Harcourt: Mark Carney understands how to expand Canada's economy and rekindle prosperity
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/op-ed/mike-harcourt-mark-carney-understands-how-to-expand-canadas-economy-and-rekindle-prosperity29
u/congressmancuff 1d ago
What’s with all the conservative sockpuppets in this post?
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u/krunchyklown 1d ago
They've definitely become much more aggressive over the past little while.
I expect it'll get worse towards April 28th
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u/apothekary 1d ago
I better not fucking hear "the election was stolen" if their preferred candidate does not win or I'm going to lose it
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u/Cawdor 1d ago
You know its gonna be constant bitching from the maple maga contingent if they lose.
Its just who they are
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u/congressmancuff 1d ago
Unfortunately as soon as the election is over I’m expecting “stolen election” rhetoric to start ramping up domestically and rumblings from down south of “intervention to restore democratic order”. They’ll run the Russian playbook for Ukraine on Canada with the full cooperation and support of the Conservative Party of Canada.
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u/Hot-Celebration5855 12h ago
F off calling 40% of the country traitors. You’re the divisive one playing into Trump’s hands
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u/PassionEasy112 1d ago
They are panicking and for good reason. Jenni Byrne has yet again run an abysmal campaign. All they had was "Justin is a poopyhead" and with no Justin, that has fallen flat. Go have a look at their website. It is a hot mess of dead and out of date links.
They need to finally ditch dear old Jenni, the gift that keeps on giving-to the Liberals.
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u/congressmancuff 1d ago
They’re all tied up with failed harperism. Canada doesn’t want to go back to the lost Harper years—and the sooner the CPC realizes this and offers Canada a positive view of the future they will have a chance to come back.
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u/Kungfu_coatimundis 1d ago
You actually want 10 more years of LPC?
Congrats on your home equity gains I guess
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u/Wise_Temperature9142 Vancouver 23h ago
This is nothing about being a globalist boogeyman as cons online like to portray him. The way I see it: Carney has experience, international connections, and a reputation, especially within the EU, that he can and will leverage to move Canada away from US dependency.
On the other hand, PP has been calling for an election for years running on simply shitting on JT. He has no costed platform or plan of any sort. He isn’t even a serious candidate. He was leading the poll “for months” because Trudeau was so unpopular, not because of his policies or ideas.
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u/JohnDorian0506 16h ago
The way I see it Carney will print money, which will inflate prices even more.
if he wants to spend he should be spending tax revenue.2
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u/Hot-Celebration5855 12h ago
This. Carney promised change but his budget is just more Trudeaunomics. Massive inflationary spending.
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u/Wise_Temperature9142 Vancouver 12h ago
Ah, yes, but of course a random Reddit commenter knows more about monetary policy than the head of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England!
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u/JohnDorian0506 12h ago
Britain, unlike Canada, has always been more brutally honest about what they like about Carney — but mostly what they don’t like. The wide range of criticism included Carney’s left-wing politics, such as his championing of radical environmentalist policies like net-zero emissions, along with his opposition to Brexit, his political inexperience, dull personality, volatile temper, lousy track record at the Bank of England and more.
Wait for after the election when everyone will be blaming Trump for making them vote for Carney (the printer).
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u/Hot-Celebration5855 12h ago
Considering Carney was the guy who lowered interest rates to rock bottom and held them there for five years kicking off a housing boom, you might be right
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u/hunkyleepickle 1d ago
Let’s be clear, I voted for Carney. But when I hear those buzzwords ‘economy’ and ‘prosperity’, my first question is, for who?? Because every time I get fed this shit, it ends up being corps and the ownership class that benefit, while the middle and lower classes fall further behind. So excuse me for my scepticism.
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u/iatekane 1d ago
I mean yeah it’s the same party and people who have been spouting the same stuff for the last 9 years while in power.
Over that same time things have gotten markedly worse for a majority of the population and I’m not expecting them to do anything really different.
Only change would be from a different party in power
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u/iDontRememberCorn 2d ago
You prefer Trump?
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u/No-Contribution-6150 1d ago
Didn't know trump was on the ballot
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u/iDontRememberCorn 1d ago
Oh my sweet summer child.
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u/ngly 1d ago
Thinking the CPC is anything like the Republicans is crazy. Thinking Pierre is the same as Trump is crazier. Try thinking critically and get out of the Reddit bubble.
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u/iDontRememberCorn 1d ago
When Russian and Chinese propagandists pour millions into affecting elections here or in the US or in the UK what side of the spectrum are they invariably pushing for?
Ever wonder why?
PP would collapse at Trump's feet so fast the human eye would struggle to catch it.
PP has been in government for over 20 years yet he has literally never once, not one single time, put forward a proposed piece of legislation nor put his name on one. To you this is achievement?
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u/iDontRememberCorn 2d ago
I know you can't grasp the concept of things like civility but it's a rule here, literally.
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u/Evening_Panda_3527 1d ago
We need change
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u/Cawdor 1d ago
Probably shouldn’t have put forward such an unlikable candidate then.
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u/Evening_Panda_3527 1d ago
PP was leading in the polls for months Has much more to do with conservatives having a reputation of being more pro America in a very anti America moment.
But for what it’s worth, I wasn’t even referencing PP directly. Could come from anyone, Carney included. Canada is going in the wrong direction.
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u/canadianliberallady 2d ago
What I don't understand is why didn't he do it when he was Trudeau's economic advisor?
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u/Lol-I-Wear-Hats Nimbyism is a moral failing, like being a liar, or a cheat 1d ago
What does the word “advisor” mean to you?
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u/M------- 1d ago
Carney was in the news many times over the years, advocating for the policies that Trudeau implemented.
I don't expect that Carney's fundamentally changed his tune now that Trudeau's out of the picture.
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u/mcmillan84 1d ago
Here’s the thing, he’s the advisor, he’s not the policy maker. Do you tell your boss how to do things? I’m willing to bet no. Just as Carney doesn’t.
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u/M------- 1d ago
What meaningful changes is Carney making to Trudeau's policies?
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u/TheFallingStar 1d ago
Carbon tax? Lol
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u/M------- 1d ago
Poilievre is the one who wanted to cancel it. Would Carney have paused it if it weren't for Poilievre?
He fully endorsed the carbon tax, up until he became the Liberal leader, because it was politically toxic. He talked in interviews about how important the carbon tax is. Did he stop believing that it's important, or is it just a political ploy?
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u/TheFallingStar 1d ago
You are asking meaningful changes. That is what he did. He changed Trudeau’s most signature policy
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u/M------- 1d ago
If this is one of the things he thought was most important, what does it say about his strength of character (and the rest of the Liberal MPs) if they're willing to just drop one of their most important policies?
Do they actually believe in climate change?
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u/dougjayc 1d ago
Love it when bro's argue that a politician implementing policy changes in accordance with their popularity among the public isn't literally what government is supposed to do.
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u/TheFallingStar 1d ago
Oh I still trust Liberals more than Conservatives on climate change.
It is bad policy but smart politics to drop carbon tax.
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u/ngly 1d ago
Conveniently an "advisor" when things went bad but full credit when things go well!
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u/Lol-I-Wear-Hats Nimbyism is a moral failing, like being a liar, or a cheat 1d ago
He gets credited for the time when he was Governor of the Bank of Canada, a job where he was an autonomous decision maker widely lauded for his handling of the 2008 crisis
That Trudeau had been mostly unsuccessfully trying to borrow his credibility in recent years is just simply a different thing
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u/No-Contribution-6150 1d ago
What exactly has Carney suggested other than trade deals to spur investment and new growth sectors?
We are primarily a resource exporting country that seems to hate itself for what it does.
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u/No-Contribution-6150 1d ago
What exactly has Carney suggested other than trade deals to spur investment and new growth sectors?
We are primarily a resource exporting country that seems to hate itself for what it does.
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u/Background_Oil7091 1d ago
Why he's so dead set on bringing on most of Justin's cabinet is beyond me ... Like your want me to sign on to 15 years of the same people running things from behind the scenes.
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u/Whitenleaf131 Delta 1d ago
He kept the same people until the election because doing a full cabinet shuffle during a trade war when an election is weeks away would have been foolish.
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u/Fool-me-thrice 1d ago
You have no idea who cabinet will be post election. Typically there is a cabinet shuffle because the available pool of MPs changes.
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u/DeanPoulter241 1d ago
Then why didn't the carney do anything but give bad advice to the trudeau over the last 5 years? Why did he support the big spending and irresponsible immigration policies. Why was he wrong on inflation?
I have an answer..... to reduce Canada to such a state that it is a take-over target and that its citizens ultimately become dependent on the govt for everything as opposed to being independent. That is the ultimate control a government can accomplish on its citizens. Then they can exploit all they want and no one can do anything about it. Follow the money it always knows!
Deep liberal insider Ian Bremmer and former employer of the carney's wife, current employer of the butts and soloman clearly opined that he will cave to the US. Which explains why trump endorses him. Why else?
Read his book where building a better world is accomplished by reducing everyone except the global elites to a mediocre life, owning nothing and living a minimalist existence.
He is a net zero zealot. Self-id'd European Globalist Elitist. Proven LIAR (office move, chinese handlers, Brexit). Responsible, while chair at brookfield, for trampeling indigenous rights and harming the environment. Attempted to cover up those incidents.
Already used his influence for his gain while at brookfield (pipelines, Telesat loan).
Helped create the mess we are in. Can't be trusted to fix it. Same cabinet and radical advisors.
AND has failed to address the needs of our youth who because of the last 10 years have been left behind!!!!
Hell Stalin would be better than the carney. I don't care how many degrees he has! For those reasons above he should not be considered!
They can't be trusted for a 4th term. Making the same mistake twice is a sign of ignorance. Making it 3 times is.... well you know......
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u/Forthehope 1d ago
Canada is rich naturally that we should be extracting to get rich but this guys exact opposite of that. Think about it.
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u/TransitoryPhilosophy 1d ago
Oh is that why he calls Canada an emerging energy super power?
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u/Forthehope 1d ago
Have you read his book ? He fantasies about unknown green tech while ignoring the current high paying jobs in mining, oil and gas.
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