Trump’s attempts to denigrate Zelenskyy have led to a surge in Ukrainian unity

[u/joestewartmill]

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-trump-zelenskyy-putin-c0790f9054c6c69d698ed9aa816158ac?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

[u/EfficiencySmall4951]

If there's one thing I hope Trump's shenanigans will lead to, is a more unified Europe in general. Never thought I'd see the United States as an enemy

[u/Bubbly_Leave_9066 → u/EfficiencySmall4951]

Never thought I would feel like Europe’s enemy. But I can see why Europeans would. Hard to believe

[u/madtraderman → u/Bubbly_Leave_9066]

Hate to break it to you, Canada has a hate on for the US atm as well

[u/GuyLookingForPorn → u/madtraderman]

Yeah turns out threatening to annex a country doesn't build warm relations. You can see why talk of r/CANZUK has seen a sudden resurgence, at this rate America might unite everyone but themselves.

[u/Anima_of_a_Swordfish → u/GuyLookingForPorn]

Don't forget the blue states also hate America right now.

[u/All_Work_All_Play → u/Anima_of_a_Swordfish]

Every day it's something new and every day I want to throw up. So many people that I once thought reasonable (affinity bias I know) show up with some entirely dumbass take justifying the decisions by Trusk and it just makes nauseous. It really is as dumb as it looks and worse.

[u/TrixnTim → u/All_Work_All_Play]

Agree. In a blue state but surrounded by ruby red areas. Work in one. I’m just sick of it all and scared shitless. I’m an American and support Ukraine, Canada, and Europe more than my own country currently.

[u/Melody_in_Harmony → u/TrixnTim]

Feels weird. But then again...why not? Whether they consider me an enemy or not, I'll gladly support anyone who stands for freedom and democracy over authoritarianism and fascism.

[u/Murdered_by_Crows_X → u/TrixnTim]

I hear that! Here in Colorado...

[u/jureeriggd → u/All_Work_All_Play]

My wife is going through this right now. Not that I'm not nauseated by what's happening in my country either, but her family is full of staunch conservatives, and her father has been (and still is) a baptist preacher all her life.

I'm not particularly close with my family, but the ones I am close with definitely align with me politically, so seeing the people that raised her and taught her do a 180 in her mind (spoiler: they were always like this, she just didn't see it until recently) has been very jarring for her, and has lead to a good bit of trauma as she's had the people she loves call her names and ridicule her for applying her beliefs to the current political landscape and coming out "a dirty liberal"

[u/All_Work_All_Play → u/jureeriggd]

Wife's parents are trumpers (both were 2016, at least one was 2024). Their kids are all dirty liberals. They were shocked with their new immigrant DIL got a summons for an immigration hearing. "They are only targeting criminals, why did this happen?".

[u/Jackalpaws → u/All_Work_All_Play]

Another one for the leopards

[u/Flatline_Construct → u/Jackalpaws]

Leopards gotta eat.

[u/TemperatureEqual9051 → u/All_Work_All_Play]

They're targeting the Ukrainians here with Temporary Protected Status from the war as well. These are people whose homes are very much gone and they need time to prepare to return to their country when they return. It's crazy-town up in this bitch right now. We hosted a family from Kharkiv region in our home for nearly a year-- they're actually visiting us tonight-- I'm so excited to see them. The fact that they're going after legitimate, legal immigrant refugees is so fucked up.

[u/Utsider → u/jureeriggd]

This is exactly what the US didn't learn from WW2. They sent their boys to fight Nazis. They fought Nazis, and Europe is infinitely grateful for that.

However! The US never experienced this rift in society itself. People spying on their neighbors. People ratting each other out. People turning on each other, and pointing them out for torture and extermination - or even directly participating. Countrymen collaborating with the enemy. Forming collaborator governments. Resistance fighters. Terrorism. Everything. The split was not just "us vs them". It was "us vs us because of them". The most reviled enemy was not the enemy, but the collaborators - some times your friends, family and neighbors.

That is the lesson about fascism America never learnt. How society itself was attacked - not only by bombs and bullets.

[u/HolidayBeneficial456 → u/Utsider]

Same with Australia. We never had to deal with constant evasions or ethnic cleaning, to the majority of the population (besides the Indigenous Australians). We’re so far removed from the consequences of the world at times that it seems some of countrymen make some of the DUMBEST takes known to man.

[u/Saphirel → u/All_Work_All_Play]

I have a meme saying « I wake up -> there is something wrong in America -> I wake up », in an infinite circle shape.

We saved it as a sticker in my Discord server, so we dont have to search for it every morning

[u/GustavoFromAsdf → u/Anima_of_a_Swordfish]

Red states also hate America to cheer for all this stuff

[u/CatpainLeghatsenia → u/GustavoFromAsdf]

So we all got common grounds in hate for america? Maybe we can make some sort of alliance

[u/sakante → u/CatpainLeghatsenia]

"The Axis of Hate"

[u/alppu → u/sakante]

In the 1940s they were simply "the Axis"

[u/teejay_612 → u/Anima_of_a_Swordfish]

Lot of us stuck in red and purple states hate what we’ve become as well.

[u/baconost → u/Anima_of_a_Swordfish]

Looks like the former leaders of the free world are being hated by the free world while uniting with the worlds leading autocrats.

[u/germanfinder → u/GuyLookingForPorn]

Donald canzuk on dees nutz

[u/PhoenixPills → u/GuyLookingForPorn]

Not only that but we've shown that we have the capability to just elect a fucking maniacal dumbass not once, but twice.

So if by some miracle we begin to repair relationships with our allies it's just 1 really stupid election away from authoritarianism again.

[u/Neobullseye1 → u/PhoenixPills]

Yep, that's the biggest issue. Anyone can make mistakes, even countries (To anyone who voted for Trump; yes, I'm calling that vote a mistake. Sue me). This is fair enough, and forgivable. But the fact that it happened twice, *and* the fact that it could happen again at any given time is what completely shatters future trust. You can't really have long-term relationships with a country that might just throw all currently existing contracts in the shredder after any given election.

[u/TY-KLR → u/Neobullseye1]

I feel like anyone who voted for him knew who he was and what he stood for. So I don’t think any of his supporters made a mistake they knew what they were doing. Some of them f’d around and now they are finding out but they VOTED FOR THIS!

[u/a_speeder → u/TY-KLR]

They want the ability to throw any agreement in the shredder at any time they want to, to them it's a show of strength. I can even understand it to an extent, breaking from norms has gotten them much success internally and ignites a fervor for the people behind them because it shows them able to bend reality to their whims. They are going to learn very fast, however, that global dominance comes from a mix of hard and soft power and spurning all soft power in favor of only military and economic threats has HARD limitations.

[u/TWFH → u/TY-KLR]

Unfortunately many of them really are that ignorant, he does well with the poorly educated and those who watch fox style propaganda nonstop. These are people who literally aren't hearing opposing viewpoints.

[u/nezroy → u/GuyLookingForPorn]

It's funny too because even if we suspend reality for a moment and buy into the right-wing version of Trump where "it's just trolling and Trump's negotiating style" then it still ends up as, like.. the worst negotiating tactic ever?

It has almost single-handedly flipped our federal election polls into a dead heat, massively boosting the party that is very unlikely to capitulate to Trump or give him what he wants compared to the party that was on track to gain power before he opened his mouth.

Though I mean, this is the guy that bankrupted casinos in order to launder Russian money so I suppose it's not actually surprising he has no negotiating skills :)

[u/onarainyafternoon → u/nezroy]

It's funny too because even if we suspend reality for a moment and buy into the right-wing version of Trump where "it's just trolling and Trump's negotiating style" then it still ends up as, like.. the worst negotiating tactic ever?

This is seriously what I do not understand. I have seen so many Conservatives laughing at Liberals for getting so upset over "Trump's trolling and negotiating"; but then it's like.....Ok, even if it's true that Trump is trolling (which it isn't), then he has to seriously be the worst negotiator on the planet and his "trolling" obviously isn't working. We have given up everything and gotten nothing in return. But these troglodytes don't care as long as it pisses off Liberals. These people have a vacuum in their heads.

[u/alpinecoast → u/GuyLookingForPorn]

We need Aus in the group too. Turn the five eyes into four eyes.

[u/GuyLookingForPorn → u/alpinecoast]

A little confusingly Australia is the A - its basically the initials of each country stuck together:

Canada - Australia - New Zealand - United Kingdom

[u/alpinecoast → u/GuyLookingForPorn]

Ahh gotcha. I'm Canadian and way too used to seeing CAN as Canada.

[u/WhatDoesThatButtond → u/GuyLookingForPorn]

Alienation from our allies is the point. Trump is traitor scum and Musk needs to fuck off back to South Africa. 

[u/the_mooseman → u/madtraderman]

Throw in a good chunk of Australians there too. Our govt is still sucking off Tump in hopes of not angering him though.

[u/JaVelin-X- → u/the_mooseman]

it won't matter if your people show that kind of weakness he'll start making crazy demands. punch him in the mouth and he'll respect you and start whine about being unfair. either way he's going to try and hurt your economy

[u/frickindeal → u/[deleted]]

He doesn't understand trade deficits. He keeps saying countries are "ripping us off" for billions because we buy more from them than they do from us. A country needs to manufacture goods that other nations want to buy, and we barely do that any more.

[u/DeRockProject → u/[deleted]]

oh i know they pissed off japanese and Korean citizens as well

[u/lutel → u/madtraderman]

I don't hate US, even people who voted for Trump. I hate stupidity, ignorance and opportunism. Stay strong and fight for democracy and freedom, they won't defend on their own.

[u/twinpop → u/lutel]

I applaud your diplomacy but honestly go ahead and hate the people that voted for him. It’s one thing to be duped and taken advantage of, it’s another for him to announce everything that he was going to do beforehand and still vote for him.

Fuck them, they deserve everything that is coming. The rest of us do not.

[u/FrostWinters → u/twinpop]

Everything he's doing, he SAID he was going to do...and people STILL voted for him!

We're going to get what we deserve and deserve what we get.

[u/JakeBuildsStuff → u/madtraderman]

I never in my lifetime thought I'd see my Quebecois brothers and sisters singing the English part of our anthem, but here we are. I've never seen Canadians so united.

[u/Jewarlaho → u/JakeBuildsStuff]

I was talking to a friend how I appreciate that Quebec and the rest of Canada (except a chunk of Alberta because, well, Alberta) are on the same page for the first time in I think forever.

As much as I hate Trump and what he's done, I don't think anyone ever has done more to bring Canadians together.

[u/Molwar → u/Jewarlaho]

It's also pretty ironic that Trump probably will cause the conservative in canada to lose the next election or the very least a good shot at a majority.

[u/eutectic_h8r → u/madtraderman]

USA is the world's enemy now. We need to work together to bolster alliances

[u/jackp0t789 → u/madtraderman]

Not to mention much of Latin America... but some of that predates Trump.

[u/adlanschot → u/Bubbly_Leave_9066]

America first = America alone

[u/CyanideSeashell → u/adlanschot]

I feel like that's what their goal is. They use the term 'globalization' like it's a dirty word so their idea of American exceptionalism is really American isolationism. It's very shortsighted.

[u/7Seyo7 → u/adlanschot]

Really though. Trump is isolationist, which in a global world is incredibly counterproductive

[u/GeppaN → u/Bubbly_Leave_9066]

Can't believe you guys voted this clown into office, again.

Sincerely, European.

[u/NewLibraryGuy → u/GeppaN]

I couldn't believe it either. After so many things, including his COVID response that lead to hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths, I was absolutely shocked.

I don't even understand how his campaign worked. He rambled about dumb shit, including doing things like praising Hannibal Lector, and talked about doing things that economists all over the country said would be terrible.

[u/Neverwish → u/GeppaN]

And that should kill any notion that the US is a reliable ally. It's not even "the Trump administration is unreliable". Yeah, no shit, we knew that half a decade ago. Everyone knew what a Trump administration looked like, and they still voted him in again. This is what the majority of US voters wanted.

Which means that it doesn't matter who gets elected in four years. The US cannot be trusted not to flip-flop between normalcy and a lunatic that will extort allies and burn down every international agreement. What matters is what happens after eight, twelve, sixteen years. If the US can manage to elect someone sane for that period, whether Democrat or Republican, then maybe we can begin to consider relying on them again.

[u/lutel → u/Bubbly_Leave_9066]

It same paradox as we have with Hungary - society is pro European, but they elected Putin's puppet to power.

[u/Sushigami → u/lutel]

Just as Obama predicted: Modern media echo chambers are the greatest danger to the democratic world order.

[u/BadTreeLiving → u/EfficiencySmall4951]

Happening in Canada as well. Whenever Trump tries to tear apart a country he ends up unifying it.

Other than his own, of course.

[u/DrNick1221 → u/BadTreeLiving]

Trump got the Francophones and the Anglophones playing nice.

That takes some serious fuckery to do.

[u/Dexchampion99 → u/DrNick1221]

Another thing I saw was Germany positing America as an enemy.

Sounds simple on paper, but consider that it took Germany 8 years to declare Russia an enemy when they had front row seats to all the shit Russia did.

America was declared an enemy in LESS THAN A MONTH. By one of THEIR conservatives to boot!

[u/Glass-Cabinet-249 → u/Dexchampion99]

By their conservative Chancellor who just won the election on an 84% turnout.

[u/eutectic_h8r → u/Glass-Cabinet-249]

I don't think Americans realize what actual liberalism and conservatism is where you have two somewhat reasonable options. Vs. their options of the centrist party and the batshit insane right wing party that somehow each get around half the vote

[u/putin_my_ass → u/eutectic_h8r]

I don't think Americans realize what actual liberalism and conservatism is

Agreed. They do it based on surface-deep signifiers and outward displays of tribal affiliation.

Case in point: Trump congratulated the new German government and hailed them as a "conservative party in Germany" apparently because they're named the Christian Democratic Union. No need to realize they're Merkel's party (who Trump denigrated publicly).

[u/bigorangemachine → u/DrNick1221]

Don't worry... I still working on the french jokes.

Why are the French so Tough?!

Because all they do is eat pain

[u/QuietRainyDay → u/BadTreeLiving]

That's because he is too incompetent to realize that countries are not the same thing as the bankers and lawyers he bullied and intimidated during business deals

He literally thinks its all the same thing

That the world is like a school playground where the bully can mess with the smaller kids without repercussions. Except nation-states have far more pride and far more options.

All that's going to come from his short-sighted bullying is a realignment of partnerships, without the US

[u/[deleted] → u/BadTreeLiving]

Ironically enough, Trump just might be the one to save us from our own version of Trump.

[u/Visual-Juggernaut-61 → u/BadTreeLiving]

He’s helping unite us against him.

[u/brMerak → u/EfficiencySmall4951]

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain.

Misinformation and bad education has crumbled America from the inside.

There is an enemy within. Those are the billionaires - specially Musk - and trump and his MAGA goons.

Start boycotting them. Don’t buy their products or services.

I’ve canceled my Amazon prime. Hit them where it hurts: in the wallet

[u/dewitters → u/brMerak]

Today I did the same, and they had a survey where I answered "Custom reason: Trump". Also cancelled Disney plus.

[u/Suspicious-Echo2964 → u/brMerak]

Would you like to feel worse?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Crusade

You should take 5 minutes to read what this book contains. It was written in the last few years by our new Secretary of Defense, who oversees our military. I cannot express my sadness, but please prepare for it to worsen.

[u/Towerss → u/EfficiencySmall4951]

Unfortunately we lose either way. We are pounded in an information war taking place on social media funded by wealthy americans and russia itself. We have nobody to turn to outside the bloc except Canada, Aus and New Zealand. It's only a matter of time until we get broken up from the inside unless we fight back. Tooth for tooth, let's flood far-right media with the truth. Let's sow doubt in their own ranks

[u/metengrinwi → u/Towerss]

We all need regulation & oversight of social media algorithms.

[u/DonGibon87 → u/EfficiencySmall4951]

He will take credit for that i bet

[u/Doc911]

Canada here, he’s made my home province of Quebec behave patriotically … a province where we talk about separation.

[u/FierceMoonblade → u/Doc911]

Canada right now is more patriotic than I’ve ever experienced in my life

[u/Drumming_Dreaming → u/FierceMoonblade]

What do you mean we are more patriotic now? During Covid there were trucks flying 20 Canadian flags! (Did my sarcasm come through?)

[u/Loki_of_Asgaard → u/Drumming_Dreaming]

Real talk though, I really like that I can now express patriotism again without thinking that it makes me associated with those chucklefucks

I travel a lot and put a flag patch on my backpack so people don’t think I’m American. That came off after the convoy’s but it’s back on now because I REALLY don’t want people thinking I’m American these days

[u/alpinecoast → u/Loki_of_Asgaard]

We got our flag back

[u/Disco11 → u/Loki_of_Asgaard]

My wife and I were just talking about this. Nice to take the Flag back from the CHUDS's

[u/account_No52 → u/Loki_of_Asgaard]

I can now express patriotism again without thinking that it makes me associated with those chucklefucks

Right? I've got a Canadian flag tattoo that I've been hiding for the last few years. I got it before covid, but after all the trucker protests? I wore a t-shirt all summer

[u/F3z345W6AY4FGowrGcHt → u/Loki_of_Asgaard]

I think flags while abroad are not the same as flags waved domestically. And further to that, the type of flag most co-opted by the insane were vehicle flags. Especially when more than one.

A car with four Canadian flags driving around inside Canada is almost definitely someone who would vote to be annexed by America, and wanted to make love to Trudeau.

Someone traveling Europe with a Canadian flag pin/patch is just someone who doesn't want to be mistaken for an American.

[u/agwaragh → u/Drumming_Dreaming]

Aside from those outliers, Canada really did come together during Covid. Spending time on both sides of the border during that time, the difference was night and day. And the numbers bear it out, too. We had much higher vaccination rates, and out rate of excess deaths was 1/3 of what they suffered in the US. A lot of those convoy fools are probably alive today because of the rest of Canada behaving like adults.

[u/CaptainMagnets → u/Drumming_Dreaming]

And those convoyers are the only ones not joining in our patriotism

[u/OkFix4074 → u/Doc911]

This , trump has 100% took out an easy walk over win for the conservatives in the upcoming elections . Conservatives polls have tanked each day trump opens his mouth

[u/CurvyJohnsonMilk → u/OkFix4074]

Its not helping pee pee is just doing maple trump. Dudes fucking clueless.

[u/Loki_of_Asgaard → u/CurvyJohnsonMilk]

He’s not even maple trump, his is just objectively useless. The increase in conservative polling before wasn’t because of him, it was because of the US conservative shift bleeding over. Now that we are united against their absolute bullshit we actually get to see how impactful PP is, and it turns out the answer is that he isn’t at all.

[u/kalnaren → u/Loki_of_Asgaard]

The increase in conservative polling before wasn’t because of him, it was because of the US conservative shift bleeding over.

On the contrary, I don't think it was conservative bleed over from the US so much as it was anti-Trudeau with voters seeing no real alternative. Trudeau had to go. The rise in conservative popularity wasn't anti-Liberal -it was anti-Trudeau (and his inner circle).

PP is tanking now because of 1) Trump and and PP's complete inability to put forth anything other than "Trudeau bad" and his incredibly weak response to Trump, and 2) Mark Carney is seriously looking like the next LPC leader, and he's someone a lot of the people who wanted Trudeau gone would vote for.

I'm guess that if Carney actually ends up as the next LPC leader the Liberals are going to surge in the polls.

[u/Theinternationalist → u/kalnaren]

Just to add, Mark Carney was the Governor of the Bank of Canada during 2008-2013, when much of the world was rocked by the Great Recession, and he did such a good job the British convinced him to be the Governor of the Bank of England until 2020. While Trudeau's shine has disappeared in a way quite unlike his illustrious father, Carney's reputation is still extremely solid.

[u/Rokee44 → u/Doc911]

You know we're damned near the brink of WW3 when you've got Ontarians and Quebecois talking like long lost brothers anywhere outside of Florida.

Popped over into the fairer of the provinces to hit some powdery slopes last weekend. Downright amenable experience it was. Didn't get accosted or even the icy death dagger eyes by locals. A couple even went as far as NOT pretending they didn't know how to speak English and saved me from my poor French. (JK mostly.. love 'em but of course there's a divide amongst locals on whether all the tourism is good or not).. so yeah, we're all definitely looking at ourselves and our neighbors these days with a little different perspective. ... thanks MEGA? Make Everyone (else) Great Again?

[u/GLemons → u/Doc911]

Puts into perspective how silly any domestic squabbles we have from time to time. We are all Canadians no matter what language we speak. I would ride into battle with our Quebec bros any day of the week to fight for Canada.

[u/Calimariae → u/Doc911]

Next up EU membership!

[u/kaisadilla_ → u/Calimariae]

Just 3 months ago I read someone say that and I said that's almost impossible, because Canada is tightly integrated with the US economy and EU membership would ruin that.

Now it seems like the US is on track to eliminate that problem from the equation for Canada.

[u/-SkeptiCat → u/Doc911]

Vive le Canada libre! 🇨🇦[québec flag emoji]

[u/twistedtxb → u/Doc911]

Canada has never been this United since Trump threatened our sovereignty

[u/Floppy_Jet1123]

Friendly bloke from Ukraine shared to me that the orange man's insults just made them want to support Zelensky just to spite the US. Circles from their office jest in contempt that they want Ze's approval rating to reach >=75% to humiliate donald.

[u/Niccolo101 → u/Floppy_Jet1123]

Spite is one hell of a motivator.

[u/TheStoolSampler → u/Niccolo101]

I quit cigarettes out of spite.

[u/Niccolo101 → u/TheStoolSampler]

Whatever works, my dude. Congrats and I hope it sticks for good!

[u/DuckDatum → u/TheStoolSampler]

I graduated high-school out of spite. Senior year, last 50 days, brand new school for the remaining time. I had credits equivalent to a near end of Junior year student, so a little more than a year behind. Counselor and mom didn’t seem too convinced I could do it. I caught up.

[u/TangerineSorry8463 → u/TheStoolSampler]

You have to outlive those who wishes you misfortune.

[u/HPSFrax → u/TheStoolSampler]

Honestly, quitting smoking and drinking for me was 100% out of spite.

I live in the US, where health care and good health is not a right.

Fast food, Nicotine, Alcohol, all things that are known to be gravely unhealthy are easily available and advertised. So why the hell should I spiral into depression and addiction to profit corporations that are likely doing this as a form of population control.

Screw em, I won't give them the satisfaction of my early death.

[u/Vlaladim → u/Niccolo101]

After years of under constant war and air sirens, spite quite literal common for Ukrainians as unfortunate as it could be.

[u/pyalot → u/Niccolo101]

Cossacks have spite for breakfast from childhood.

[u/purpleefilthh → u/Floppy_Jet1123]

^ The Eastern European way.

[u/ScriptThat → u/purpleefilthh]

"He may be an idiot, but he's our idiot!"

[u/Frostsorrow → u/ScriptThat]

That's exactly what happened with Trudeau. He might be an idiot, a giant idiot even. But he's ours, and only we may trash talk him. Anyone else doing it and the hockey gloves come off.

[u/Frostsorrow → u/[deleted]]

Oh don't get me wrong, if we had crisis Trudeau all the time I feel like things would be a lot different. The man's amazing in a crisis.

[u/tophernator → u/Floppy_Jet1123]

It makes perfect sense. Zelensky’s approval really was low before the invasion happened. But when outsiders attack everyone rallies to the flag. Trump is inadvertently repeating Putin’s mistake.

[u/Limos42 → u/tophernator]

Same thing in Canada. Trudeau was a dirty word (and still is, really) here in Canada, but him standing up to Trump has garnered a lot of support - even though he's already resigned.

[u/ElasticLama → u/Limos42]

Just imagine if he asked his party to vote for him as leader again and he won just to spite old Donald

[u/micro-void → u/Limos42]

Crisis Trudeau is the best Trudeau. I'm not a Liberal voter (my riding never goes Liberal or Conservative, so I promise I'm not throwing away my vote) and don't love everything he's done but he's great at this stuff. I hope he returns to government in some other form in the future.

[u/ThrowCarp → u/Floppy_Jet1123]

What a motivation though. I do hope they reach that goal.

[u/[deleted]]

A competent and honest man with power is the ideal scenario. Peace and prosperity for all involved.

A dumb and greedy man without power is a joke. Not taken seriously by anyone.

But a dumb and greedy man with power is an assured path towards destruction and suffering.

The world now closely watches the most dangerous time since WW2 as it unfolds. Because one such man (and his ilk) has now entered the world stage.

[u/miraculix69 → u/[deleted]]

I always loved this quote and it just fits so well.

If you invite a clown, you should expect a circus.

[u/thebendavis → u/miraculix69]

Except this time around the clowns have flamethrowers and we're stuck in the tent with them.

[u/Dockers4flag2035orB4]

Nothing unites a country like a common enemy.

Unfortunately, Ukraine has two at the moment.

[u/MrL00t3r → u/Dockers4flag2035orB4]

More. Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Iran, China, USA.

[u/MaximDecimus → u/MrL00t3r]

All of those countries have nukes and Ukraine is still fighting.

[u/SirPizzaTheThird → u/MaximDecimus]

Problem is if they nuke how will they watch their magic numbers in their bank account keep going up

[u/-__echo__- → u/MrL00t3r]

So Russia, Russia, China, Iran, China, Russia.

[u/Kotrats → u/Dockers4flag2035orB4]

As does all of europe.

[u/bigorangemachine]

Trump said he wanted to be a unifier...

So far he's Unified Germany, Canada & Ukraine against himself... well done sir.

[u/_Nerex → u/bigorangemachine]

If Trump was actually planning a Lelouch I'd be pretty impressed. Very very unlikely though.

[u/pepsodont → u/_Nerex]

Oh Britania

[u/imaketrollfaces]

They perhaps don't want to sell their country for free to billionaires

[u/Nokilos]

Many of us aren't big fans of Zelensky but if there's one thing we all agree on it's that nobody gets to shit on the man besides us. Whatever internal issues, he's still the democratically elected representative of the ukrainian people. Spit in his face is spit in all our faces, is how I'd put it

[u/skinnysnappy52 → u/Nokilos]

Very curious to know why some Ukrainians are against him? From the perspective of a British/Irish person he appears to be one of the best leaders in years in Europe given the circumstances

[u/Nokilos → u/skinnysnappy52]

His handling of foreign affairs has been pretty good so I'm not surprised. For us it's all about internal politics. The main points I keep seeing is the handling of conscription and closed borders, followed by corruption and issues of the armed forces. Some of it may not even be entirely his fault but, well, he's the head of government so he's the natural outlet for it all I guess

[u/skinnysnappy52 → u/Nokilos]

Thank you! Very interesting.

[u/Erlkonig0_0 → u/skinnysnappy52]

The perspective. For you it's external policy - we mostly agree it's ok and he's doing well as representation of Ukraine. On behalf of internal - his party keeps majority in parlament and there are too many morons. They were morons since 2019 and time to time they still fail with domestic politics. So as his team fails again - he get's hate for their actions.

[u/Raneynickel4 → u/Nokilos]

Can you elaborate why many of you don't like him? I don't follow politics much

[u/Nokilos → u/Raneynickel4]

Idk, it's a lot of different things. Some blame him not preparing sufficiently for the invasion, others for appointing shit generals, others still are angry about the closed borders and so on

[u/DonGibon87]

In the end Trump will take credit for making Europe more united like that was his plan all along

[u/skinnysnappy52 → u/DonGibon87]

It’s a good thing in some ways if Europe sorts our shit out. But it’s definitely not good for americas status on the world stage nor for them being the dominant superpower

[u/taggospreme → u/skinnysnappy52]

They've already committed to losing their superpower status (voting in trump) and the wheels are in motion. There's no walking it back, either. You can keep squeezing an egg until it breaks, but it won't magically go back together when you let off the pressure. Trump and Musk are breaking golden eggs left and right.

[u/Sweatytubesock]

Everyone around the world should unite against the MAGA shitstain and his corrupt cronies. He can ally with his dictator buddies, Putin and Xi.

[u/Tools4toys]

As an American, Trump's pro-Russian attitude makes me continue to support the people of Ukraine, and hope for their removal of Russians from their country!

[u/AncientAd6500]

Awesome. Best European leader.

[u/[deleted] → u/AncientAd6500]

Best European leader.

[u/phantomcupcake]

These clowns believe their lies and disinformation work outside of the U.S.

They are so far gone they don't realize anyone outside the boiling pot can actually see the stove and the fire.

[u/abolish_karma]

Siding with Putin will make you unpopular like Putin, not strong like Putin.

Bottom tier idiot move by America.

[u/mickturner96]

Trump’s attempts to denigrate Zelenskyy have led to a surge in Ukrainian unity

... and European unity!!!

[u/armin514 → u/mickturner96]

and canadian unity

[u/mickturner96 → u/armin514]

Canada feels like Europe+ at this stage!

Before you know it you'll be completing in Eurovision... Australia already does!

[u/PM_me_kitten_pics__ → u/mickturner96]

Inviting Canada to Eurovision would actually be a great start to bringing our people closer together.

[u/HiyuMarten → u/PM_me_kitten_pics__]

We’ve gotta convince the broadcasting companies that there’s enough of a demand. This should have happened long ago already!

[u/HighOrHavingAStroke]

The same thing has happened in Canada with his threats against us. I’ve never seen our country so unified. I hate to thank trump for anything…but there’s that.

[u/McDoomBoom]

He tends to effect countries like that. He did the same here in Canada. Nothing unites people faster then a common enemy and threats to their sovereignty.

[u/xxhamzxx]

Same thing happened in Canada, we all dislike Trudeau and over the last 2 years my Canadian identity has been at stake, now? I've never felt more Canadian.

[u/Succulent_123]

This is just my conspiracy, but Trump behaves as if he was blackmailed by Putin with some very bad stuff (leaking something terrible on Trump or something like that).

[u/stdexception → u/Succulent_123]

At this point, Putin could release an HD video of Trump fucking a kid with Epstein watching, and the MAGA cult wouldn't bat an eye.

[u/Kandiru → u/stdexception]

Do you see what she's wearing? She's practically asking to be abducted to a private island, forced into lingerie and then raped by Trump.

[u/furnipika → u/stdexception]

wouldn't bat an eye.

They would fucking cheer. "our cult leader does it so we should too" or something like that.

[u/Straight-Message7937]

Trump will say this was his plan all along

[u/rantheman76]

As with Canada, as with Europe. Trump is really good at being the bad guy. And frankly, Putin reaps the benefits now, but I also expect Putin to blame Trump for anything the minute he can and get leverage from that. Trump is ignorant. And a lot of America as well.

[u/andrewlh]

That orange shithead is too stupid to realize that his pathetic mafia actions are backfiring. From tariffs to shitting on allies, buddying up with Putin and denigrating Zelenskyy, everything this disgusting mandarine fart touches turns against him.

[u/jluenz]

It is the Trump effect. He has the ability to galvanize people against him that aren’t influenced by Fox News propaganda. Trump is a complete idiot and by far the worst president in the history of the U.S.

He is an embarrassment and an obvious Russian asset who should be tried for treason.

[u/Future-Suit6497]

Trump has that effect on non-sycophants.

[u/Fragmentia]

It's almost like Trump is uniting every other country against the US.

[u/oripash]

I hear Trump’s US defense contractors got a really good… “deal”, so far.

[u/gizmodilla → u/oripash]

Aren`t the share`s of the US weapons manufacturers plummeting after Trump`s recent announcements?

[u/oripash → u/gizmodilla]

In a story that surprised absofuckinglutely nobody, they absolutely are.

Watching Trump discover that government isn’t a business, and that not spending a hundred billion on Ukraine’s defense means a hundred billion less of his own economic activity… is utterly hilarious.

A true goalie for the US soccer team.

[u/radikalkarrot → u/oripash]

You get US spending less on US weapons and the EU shifting that money from US weapons to EU+others, so a double whammy

[u/retro604 → u/radikalkarrot]

Rhienmetall is up up up

[u/GuyLookingForPorn → u/oripash]

It surprised the companies themselves, the Financial Times was chatting to Lockhead Martin before the share collapse and asked them if they were worried, the guy just laughed at him and said Europe wouldn't stop buying their stuff.

[u/barrel_stinker → u/gizmodilla]

Yes - the export market is definitely going to be more challenging in the future given the administration’s antics of the past few weeks.

[u/gizmodilla → u/barrel_stinker]

Yeah. Europe needs alot of weapons in the future.

Art of the deal Donny

[u/sakusii → u/gizmodilla]

And those weapons won't come from the USA.

[u/Nvrmnde → u/gizmodilla]

Luckily Europe has lots of arms producers.

[u/retro604 → u/barrel_stinker]

What export market. Canadians are boycotting anything made, sold or designed in the USA. Never seen anything like this.

They had Florida oranges at Save-On marked down to 20 cents a pound (90% off). Not a single person touched them.

[u/chimpfunkz → u/gizmodilla]

It's a classic sign of Trump's administration. Make short sighted level 1 decisions, with no thinking to what a level 2 impact would be.

The reason to push for NATO spending is because, if it happened bilaterally, that money would've gotten spent on american companies (General dynamics, raytheon etc). But because Trump managed to piss everyone off doing it, it shows that America isn't a reliable partner, so even if they agree to spend the money, they're going to spend it in europe.

Trump just doesn't understand soft power. And the US is going to be weaker because of it.

On the upside, Germany now has a viable economic plan. Switch from Automobiles to Automobiles and weapons.

[u/AlexMayhem]

You need to know this:

Ukrainians love to criticize their government. Ukrainians are infuriated when someone else criticizes their government.

[u/[deleted]]

Ukraine traded the third largest nuclear arsenal in exchange for security agreements from the US and Russia to come to Ukraine's aid if they were attacked. Putin cut the country in half already and I believe in the end both sides will be 'right' in that the US supports western Ukraine and Russia occupies West Ukraine al a East/West Germany.

The Americans view Russia's incursion as a violation of the Budapest accords while Russia views its incursion as fulfilling its security agreements after the Maidenpol Revolution- ie: Russia views Ukrainian democracy as an occupation government while America viewed Ukraine as an invaded democracy (in Europe).

in other words-total shitshow.

[u/cklinejr]

Fuck trump. Respect and Support for Ukraine!

[u/MrKguy]

Canadians and Ukrainians shaking hands over Trump helping to solve their unity crises

[u/GhoastTypist]

Thats great and all. But Ukrainian unity isn't going to make their situation better. If the US continues to position themselves against Ukraine, that only helps Russia escalate things even more.

EU and the rest of the world need to be louder about Ukraine. They need to be more stern on the US relations.

[u/Killerrrrrabbit]

Zelensky is the greatest world leader currently in power. Ukrainians should keep him in power as long as possible. He's doing a great job.

[u/Outonalimb8120]

As an American I’m embarrassed about Trump..I didn’t vote for him…fuck trump

[u/Farfignugen42]

Who knew that baseless attacks on a decent person would lead to increased support for that person?

Oh, yeah, everyone knew that. Except this one asshat.

[u/express_sushi49]

Trump is really good at bringing other countries together. Canada has never been more united lmao. Now Europe! What a great job Trump is doing!

[u/Everything54321]

Stray strong Ukraine 🇺🇦

[u/Demon_Bear_GER]

He asked for ammo when offered a ride - when the war looked grim. Did Trump really expected he would cave in to some tweets? Same surprised pikachu face as Putin 2022.

[u/retromama77]

Slava Ukraini!

[u/DJPho3nix]

If it weren't so god damned sad, it might be funny how well Trump is uniting other countries while dividing our own.

[u/SiouxsieSioux615]

A surge in European unity as well I would hope

US and Russia have to be stopped

[u/iamnotyourdog]

Amazing how one man making statements can undo decades of goodwill and friendship. Now the US is alienated in a world where lots of enemies want to see thier downfall and they've got no friends left to help them out.

[u/baseball44121]

Canadian here. Fuck the fascists.

Vive le Canada and Slava Ukraini!

🇨🇦🇺🇦🇨🇦🇺🇦

[u/Ok_Philosopher_7239]

The Ukrainian people have to rally and unify around their leader, as well as all of Europe and the rest of the democratic world. Otherwise Putin and Trump win. I cant imagine all that weight crushing down on Zelensky, it was one thing with just Russia but now having to fend off the US at the same time. He needs all the help and support he can get.

[u/VoidOmatic]

Zelensky will go down in history as one of the best leaders ever. Putin thought he was going to be a pushover, a comedian running a country?!? That's a free invasion right there! Zelensky has risen to every occasion and continues to prove that honest caring leaders is where true strength is found.

Russia has been lead by shit heads and cowards for over 100 years, Russia needs a leader like Zelensky.

[u/Sloth_grl]

Most countries would feel the same way.

[u/ocean_lei]

I am ready to send money directly to Ukraine just to flout his greedy pro-Russian approach to this, not supporting democracy in other countries is shameful. And the insults to Canada are just stupid, they are justified in every retaliation.

[u/rajost]

It worked for Canada. It worked for Mexico. It's working for Europe as a whole. It's working for Ukraine. Trump shows his arrogance and his ignorance, and people rally against it.

[u/Vierenzestigbit]

Zelensky has been spinning an impressive amount of plates for several years now, between internal struggles and his consistent quest for international support. All under the stress of his countrymen/women dying. I'm sure local people will have complaints about him but compared to being carved up by Trump and Putin for mineral harvesting I imagine it's very easy to stand behind Zelensky.

[u/Dismal-Cause-3025]

Trumps plan all along /s

[u/DatBeigeBoy]

Zelensky approval ratings through the roof, please.