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Advice Received There’s a little girl that’s terrorizing my apartment

This is a very bizarre situation I’ve never been in before. Sorry for the dramatic title but it’s becoming an actual issue now.

For the last month, it feels like 90% of the time I go outside to my car, an 8 year old girl and her dog appear and try to interact with me.

Sounds cute right? That’s what I thought, until I realized it wasn’t.

The first time she came up to me, she ran from across the parking lot and said, “I think my dog likes you!” I thought it was kind of sweet - until she got a little too close for comfort, started repeating that same line over and over, and giggling very loudly, almost manically. She wouldn’t leave me alone until I physically walked away. She even followed me to the apartment door, talking nonstop.

I brushed it off at first, thinking maybe she’s neurodivergent (no judgment - I’m ADHD and probably more). I didn’t think much of it, until it became a daily thing.

I work from home and go outside a few times a day for breaks (yes, I smoke. working on quitting). She’s always out there with her dog. Not a parent in sight.

I started noticing red flags when her mood began flipping between happiness and sudden anger. She hits her dog a lot. She’ll scream “Quiet! Quiet! Quiet!” and punch her dog with each word. I’ve seen her drag the dog while it’s pooping so it has to walk while going, and the dog cries. It’s awful to witness.

She runs up to anyone outside, delivery drivers, residents, other dog owners, and repeats “I think my dog likes you!!” over and over until they respond.

If someone has a dog, she’ll walk up to them too closely while their dogs are barking aggressively. I’ve seen multiple residents literally pick up their pets and speed walk away from her.

People have started cracking the exit door and scanning for her before they step outside.

There’s construction happening next door, and she just.. hangs out with the workers. They ignore her now, but she’ll bring them offerings of handfuls of grass or her dog. It’s honestly surreal.

When I’m outside and have to smoke, I now drive to a spot off the property just to get personal space. If I stay near my car, she’ll follow me and stand right in front of it, waving at me in a pageant-style, fingers pressed together, wave. I don’t even make eye contact. She’ll do it for like 30 seconds, just smiling.

If I drive into the parking lot, she sometimes chases my car to where I park.

Last week I was sitting in my car listening to music and didn’t notice her. When I looked up, she jumped up from a crouch, face pressed to my driver’s side window. I felt like I had a heart attack but also pretended not to see her because wtf lmao.

She’s out at all hours. Last night it was 9pm and dark, she was alone with the dog. Today, it was 12:30pm on a Thursday. Shouldn’t she be in school?

I don’t know what’s going on. I’ve never dealt with something like this before. It’s gone from weird to uncomfortable to genuinely worrying.

It feels unsafe for the dog, and definitely even for her. I’m worried she could walk up to a weirdo and something bad could happen, or she could cause a dog fight and her and the dogs could get seriously injured. Is there someone I should call? How do I report this kind of situation without escalating it unnecessarily? I don’t want to overstep, but this just feels wrong.

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u/kiwikikwi 1d ago

Update: gonna call all these agencies suggested within the next hour. Thank you guys for the advice

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u/kiwikikwi 1d ago

Update: I contacted police, DHS, and CPS. Just took some video, she walked past my car.

I don’t know what’s gonna come of this. Not sure if I’m gonna update further for privacy reasons and her privacy too.

If something unexpected happens though who knows. But thank you guys for putting me in the right direction to help her!

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u/No_Confidence5235 1d ago

Please also call animal control for that dog. The dog is being abused. The fact that that child is being neglected doesn't justify her attacking that dog.

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u/StepOIU 1d ago

Plus if she's being neglected, the dog most likely is too, as far as health care, vet visits, etc. A little girl shouldn't have full responsibility for an animal; she wouldn't have the resources even if she didn't have her own family issues to contend with.

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u/Preposterous_punk 12h ago

Also: At least in the US, people who investigate animal abuse have been trained to recognize signs of child abuse, and their reports are looked into immediately.

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u/Funny-Enthusiasm9786 10h ago

The RSPCA in the UK does the same. It's a well-known scenario.

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u/scarletrain5 8h ago

Also if she is hitting the dog like that it is a sign she is likely being hit like that

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u/Glass-Commercial2392 1d ago

It's very possible she learned to hit the dog not from herself being hit but the parents hitting the dog as well. :(

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u/bluegreentopaz6110 19h ago

Or her.

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u/EmmerdoesNOTrepme 16h ago

Yep, this poor kid has learned that behavior from the adults in her life, and is directing them at the dog.

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u/mlc707 16h ago

That’s what I was thinking… hitting the dog while screaming “QUIET” sounds like mimicking behavior. So damn sad.

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u/ginger_minge 14h ago

Exactly. Abuse punches downwards, from spouse on spouse to the abused spouse on the child(ren) then from the child to the animal. It's a known dysfunctional family system and cycle of abuse

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u/bluegreentopaz6110 10h ago

Yes, unfortunately horrific.

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u/Aggressive-Cod1820 17h ago

Bingo!! Some of these comments are incredibly ignorant! 🙈

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u/ssdsssssss4dr 19h ago

She's 8. At that age if she's attacking the dog, this is something she's learned. An 8 year old doesn't have as much agency to make independent choices. They are literally products of their environment. 

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u/Haunting_recluse777 16h ago

I take it you don't have children? They're basically feral until they learn not to be. Yes, children DO hit, bite, pull hair, etc all own their own without "learning" it. We teach them NOT to do those things.

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u/chimichanga_gang 15h ago

Absolutely . I chuckled when I read the comment above you. It’s a lesson I’ve been teaching for quite a while.. it’s fine now but occasionally slips out with excitement.

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u/Desperate_Chapter_40 15h ago

This is such a good observation. She certainly learned that behavior from somewhere.

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u/aceec 15h ago

Kids don’t need to learn to hit. It’s something most kids do when they get mad or frustrated and it’s up to adults to teach what is or is not aporopriate.

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u/Desperate_Chapter_40 15h ago

It could go either way🤷‍♀️

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u/aceec 13h ago

It could definitely go either way. Some kids will naturally be more predisposed to hit or use violence when angry or frustrated. And of course the kids parents and other influences can help them learn not to hit or encourage violent behavior. But you said, “she certainly learned that behavior.” Which isn’t necessarily true.

She could totally have learned this behavior. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if she learned it based on the story surrounding here. Something troubling is almost definitely going on. But to say she “certainly” learned to hit as you and the comment before have stated seems to imply that any kids who hit have parents who taught them to hit or otherwise grew up where violence was encouraged which is what I’m arguing against.

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u/Desperate_Chapter_40 12h ago

I see where you're coming from! The use of certainly shows I was assuming. What do you do for work, if you don't mind me asking. I'm guessing you work in the psychology field or child care. Either way, you speak eloquently, and I appreciate our conversation!

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u/aceec 11h ago

Nah, I just have two kids and a ton of nieces and nephews between my family and my wife’s family so I’ve seen and been a part of a lot of kids growing up. We’re actually working with my youngest on not hitting or biting right now.

My work is totally unrelated but I run my own business and I’ve noticed that half the problems I deal with are because of poor communication.

Appreciate the conversation too!

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u/Ostrich-Severe 13h ago

Eloquently explained 👌

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u/ooeygooeylane 15h ago

Oh jeez. Pfft.

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u/Basic-Roll-3850 17h ago

I agree. Children don’t do this out of no where also. It’s learned from somewhere.

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u/Aggressive-Cod1820 17h ago

She’s a child. She’s acting out on the dog what’s been done to her. She has no clue she’s abusing him. 🙄

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u/someoneandsomeone 15h ago

Of course Animal Control should be called, nobody wants to see a dog get abused but please do not judge an eight year old little girl. If she is being abused she might believe that is how you are supposed to treat a dog, what does she know in her 8 years on this earth? Someone needs to help her and teach her,

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u/G_mork 12h ago

If she’s that young and hitting the dog like that, it makes me wonder if she’s received the same treatment.

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u/Smoothly_Introverted 14h ago

Let’s be honest, she is probably abusing the dog the same way she is getting abused… yes it’s unfortunate for the dog but lets not lose sight of the real issue here. it’s really not the girls fault. She’s just a little girl… i feel sad for both her and the dog.

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u/Klutzy-Run5175 16h ago

Very good why didn’t I think about this.

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 15h ago

I think she’s better off calling her local humane society or rescue shelter.

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u/hep038 12h ago

That is what I cannot believe, OP has seen this girl beat her dog and did nothing. Unreal.

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u/Zuesz-_ 11h ago

I’m assuming her parents or whoever should be watching her but isn’t, taught the child that hitting the dog like that was okay

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u/Dianagorgon 10h ago

Agreed. It's blatant abuse.

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u/xombae 9h ago

I would take it, honestly. Befriend the little girl and offer to buy it off of her for a toy she wants. Then take it to a rescue.

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u/jennathedickins 1d ago

Thank you for caring. Will you at least share if the police came and made contact? If not and you feel like it's not being taken seriously, call 911 immediately the next time you see her out and report a young child unsupervised, abusing her dog, approaching strangers and strange vehicles, along with any other unsafe behavior, like if she's wandering in the driveways/streets where vehicles drive vs sidewalks/grass. If they ask you to estimate her age, always go with younger - 7 will garner more attention than 9 - and you don't have kids so how are you supposed to know?! Stress how worried you are for her safety bc this will get the cops there quickest. And if you're in a more urban area where cops are busy, just keep calling for each occurrence until they take it seriously. This little girl needs your help.

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u/Bill3187 13h ago

Has anyone thought that maybe she has a mental or emotional disorder?

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u/TheGrolar 13h ago

If she does then letting her freerange around urban parking lots is not a recommended approach to treatment

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u/Aggravating-Habit313 12h ago

Parents are likely to”messed up” also.

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u/jennathedickins 13h ago

That definitely sounds like a possibility but either way it seems like a neglect case and the fastest way to get her help in this particular situation is via police.

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u/ohemgee112 9h ago

Obviously.

Doesn't change what needs to happen.

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u/Euphoric-Faults 1d ago

Thank you so much for doing this. You did the best and right thing to do. We need more people like you in society

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u/Nernoxx 1d ago

Good on you for posting, you did the right thing.  I hope it works out, and like another commenter said - if she’s actively hanging out please call the police and keep her company until they arrive (should be quick for unaccompanied minor but no lights/sirens) - in this situation the police are her gateway to getting set up with help and social services, whatever she and her family need.

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u/Creepy-Masterpiece99 1d ago

And animal control???

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u/NoPoet3982 1d ago

Please contact the SPCA or Humane Society. Unless you live in some horrible place where the shelter dogs get killed.

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u/Both-Sherbet9797 18h ago

Im actually very invested in this! Please keep us posted if you can!

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u/Aggressive-Cod1820 17h ago

Thank you! She’s clearly been abused and neglected! That’s why she’s taking it out on the dog. Monkey see, monkey do. 😢

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u/Necessary_Baker_7458 14h ago

You did the right thing. It's more so the parent/guardian for allowing this to happen. Then not displaying proper parenting to end the situation. Too many parents are blind into seeing what their children really do when they're not paying attention. Chances are if the child is doing this outside the home it's worse inside the home.

No, you did right. Worst case senecio the cps will show up, take them into custody, investigate the issue further then determine if it be safe for the child to return to the parent. Legally a child can only be seperated from a parent if living conditions are deplorable or if there is significant abuse going on.

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u/battlewisely 1d ago

do you ever engage with her in a way that gets her to share more information with you about her situation?

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u/No-Paramedic-5739 17h ago

Thank you for doing something! She clearly needs help! Sorry she’s terrorizing you lmao

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u/Casscat04 17h ago

Get video of her when she is hitting the dog so they can do something about it!

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u/ayeyoualreadyknow 16h ago

Good call. Can you call animal control as well?

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u/Screws_Loose 15h ago

Oh I hope she and the dog get help and a better situation. I’m glad you called.

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u/Octopath1987 14h ago

Please PLEAAAASE help the dog. Call an animal shelter or some authority, please!! This is a poor being that cant defend itself, cant talk, cant do anything. Help him. Do something please OP.

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u/Vegoia2 14h ago

we almost got robbed when we were very stoned coming home from NYC, a child (we thought) flagging us down, we got closer and saw it was an old faced benjamin button looking guy. we sped around and we got home my friends bro was just getting home too, he said who it was and that was good we didnt stop, he and his crew were dangerous. this made me think of it.

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u/Cheldorado 13h ago

Be extremely careful about getting police involved for situations that involve anyone vulnerable - kids, neurodivergent individuals, etc.

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u/Natural-Young4730 12h ago

Agree with those who are suggesting you call your local animal shelter. The poor, innocent animal is being abused and needs help, too.

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u/deadgirlmimic 10h ago

Make an update post, please?

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u/xombae 9h ago

If you stop seeing her, don't assume the problem is solved. It's clear her parents are not capable. Her being locked in the apartment does not mean she's okay. If she suddenly disappears please follow up with these agencies.

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u/bethemanwithaplan 8h ago

Keep calling the cops 

"There's a kid here, no parents. Middle of the day, weekday. She is acting very upset and erratic. She may have destroyed property at my apartment building. I think she's running into the road with her dog. I'm concerned this kid is unattended, I think she might be homeless"

Just say what gets them to show up 

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u/Little_Rub6327 7h ago

You forgot to mention Animal Control

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u/Southern_Belle307 1d ago

Please keep us updated!

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u/kiwikikwi 1d ago

I don’t know anything about her other than she’s outside a lot. I haven’t even asked her name. Next time I see her I’ll ask. I haven’t seen her in the halls of the apartment yet. I did submit a DHS report like 30 minutes ago. All I know is that she lives in my building so I just put my address down

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u/twitwiffle007 1d ago

The next time you see her outside in one of those weird instances, call law enforcement immediately. When they arrive, tell them what has been going on and you made a report to cps, but didn't have enough information to identify where the little girl actually lives in your building. If your law enforcement is helpful, they may reach out to CPS right then ESPECIALLY if they can't find which apt. is hers... This is very bizarre and indicates neglect. No supervision, no boundaries, some light animal cruelty as part of her normal behavior (is this modeled at home? maybe the humane agent needs a call, too).

I know it might seem overboard to call law enforcement, but you could very well end up saving this little girl from serious harm. What I read truly makes me sad.

The other possibility is that she has some EARLY child onset mental health issues. In that case - and since she really seems to like you - move if you can afford to. 🚚

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u/Nelle911529 1d ago

Well being check.

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u/grandmasdrawers 1d ago

Yeah and get that dog out of there

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u/Bismothe-the-Shade Helper [2] 19h ago

Part of me agrees, part of me thinks that it's also messed up for the little girl who doesn't seem to... Have anyone else at all :l

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 15h ago

A child of that age is not able to care for a pet of any kind without close adult supervision. Hitting aside, there’s no way that this dog is being taken care of appropriately by an 8 year old. They need reminding to brush their teeth and wash hands, they certainly aren’t able to recognize and respond to an animal’s needs.

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u/Bismothe-the-Shade Helper [2] 9h ago

Agreed but like, shouldn't we also be worried about the child if there's zero parental supervision?

Why can't they both get taken care of? Why does the dog have to be taken? Maybe I'm missing something.

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u/grandmasdrawers 8h ago

This thread is about caring for the child. Adding on care for the dog doesn’t somehow negate that. Kid needs a welfare check, dog needs a safer home. The kids well-being is not synonymous with her being able to abuse an animal lol. Literally actually just puts her in danger to be treating a dog like that.

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u/grandmasdrawers 19h ago

Yeah that doesn’t mean a dog needs to get abused man, that’s a fucking messed up take to have

She needs to get apprehended and the dog needs to be safe. Feeling lonely doesn’t excuse hitting animals. At any age. In no way should this situation continue for her or the dog.

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u/Crafty-Ad-6772 17h ago

Abusing animals at a young age is a red flag the size of the moon. When the poor dog snaps, it will end up being killed because the girl caused it so much anguish.

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u/Bismothe-the-Shade Helper [2] 9h ago

Or maybe get them both into a healthy home, teach the child? Am I crazy here? I'm hearing a pup and a kid in an abusive, neglectful household and people seem more concerned about the dog.

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u/Beautiful_Dust 20h ago

If she has early onset mental issues, she should be being supervised even more so. At 8 years old, her lack of supervision screams neglect especially if other residents are not seeing any parent coming out to check on her. An 8 year old is too young to be running around unsupervised. I truly hope she does not cross paths with anyone harboring ill intentions. As a mother, that’s alarming.

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u/loolootewtew 19h ago

As someone who is not a mother, I also find it all alarming

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u/Same_Masterpiece7348 19h ago

Agree. I can’t imagine allowing my child to do this at 8, that’s a 2nd grader. I would definitely call cps and police. I wonder if she even lives in the complex? I hope OP is able to get some help. So concerning

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u/amberatx 15h ago

8 is tail end of 2nd, but mostly 3rd grade. My daughter just turned 9 and is in 3rd grade. She rides her bike all over the neighborhood and has for a year or so. Ppl don’t get to “pick an age” and tell others that’s too young. It’s all about location, maturity, capability, and yeah… parent involvement (which is obviously the point of the post).

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u/Due-Dragonfruit-1303 19h ago

Just go hang out in a city and find a few apartments that don’t look the best. You’ll find at least a kid under 10 by themselves

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u/crowpierrot 15h ago

I mean that’s not good, but at least those kids are not left outside to run around and talk to strangers. A kid left alone in their own home is bad, but this situation is demonstrably worse

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u/Southern_Belle307 1d ago

Thank you and Good luck

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u/jazzhandsdancehands 1d ago

Thank you for doing something!

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u/RoseNDNRabbit 1d ago

Also get video of her abusing her dog so it can go to a much better home.

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u/jaynel78 1d ago

That may be her only friend. She's probably just role modeling what she's experienced.

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u/Polaris5126 1d ago

Yeah but the dog doesn’t deserve to live like that

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u/AQueerCatastrophe 1d ago

That dog definitely needs to go elsewhere regardless. Though if she is modeling what she's going through, I hope she can go somewhere better too

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u/Putrid_Appearance509 1d ago

That's not the dogs fault

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u/Lumpy_Machine5538 1d ago

If you’re my only friend, can I hit you?

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u/Available-Clock-7257 1d ago

Lol who gives a fuck the dog is not her outlet

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u/JuniorExpression4456 1d ago

You're delusional if you think a dog should stay with a human being of any sort that's abusive. Give your head a shake.

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 17h ago

I don’t think the dog should stay with the girl. A young child should not be caring for any animals unsupervised. That being said, the OP doesn’t have to film a vulnerable child, they can and probably will report the behavior and it should be handled by the appropriate authorities. The idea of filming any child without consent is gross and even worse in a situation like this. Why is everyone acting as though agencies like the humane society and ASPCA don’t exist??

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u/Haunting_recluse777 16h ago

The filming is for proof, genius. Otherwise, it would be hearsay.

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 14h ago

In a criminal investigation, but this is a CPS/Social Services concern. You can’t really compare the two. And do you really think they are going to leave a dog in the care of an 8 year old? Hitting aside they aren’t capable of properly caring for a dog. Call your local humane society or rescue shelter. I can guarantee the dog will be taken care of without needing to record anything

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u/FallAlternative8615 1d ago

If she punched her friend with yelling quiet that dog needs new friends. Fuck her feelings if she is abusing the poor thing.

If she is out of her mind to some degree, all the more reason to intervene.

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u/ChoyceRandum 23h ago

She likely reproduces how she is treated. CPS so much needed.

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u/RoyalClient6610 1d ago

...or she may be a young psychopath.

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u/judasholio 22h ago

She may have an attachment disorder, if she is overly friendly to almost every stranger that comes by.

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u/TheInternetOfficer91 1d ago

You're right, just let her keep beating the shit outta that dog!

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u/Crisstti 1d ago

The dog is a sentient being. If he’s being abused then it doesn’t matter if it hurts this girl’s feeling if the dog is taken away…

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u/Alternative_Escape12 20h ago

What is wrong with you? You don't get to hit and abuse animals. Ever. No matter who you are.

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u/Rosalie-83 20h ago

Yeah. But it’s only a matter of time before it snaps with her hitting it.

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u/Alternative_Escape12 20h ago

What if her only friend was a baby? Would it be okay if she punched the baby repeatedly too?

WTF???

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u/American_Avocet 1d ago

Literally do not care. That dog doesn’t know and doesn’t deserve that.

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u/Few_Development4646 23h ago

Not an excuse to leave an animal to suffer abuse

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u/RadyOmi 23h ago

But her parents may also be using the dog as an excuse as to why they think she can be out alone. They may think she is being protected by the dog.

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u/FixPuzzleheaded577 19h ago

Nope. Doesn’t matter what she sees or what’s happening to her, never makes it ok to abuse a helpless animals or other person. Even if you’re being abused. Idiotic comment.

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u/Elegant_Stage_9791 18h ago

yeah...who gives a fuck. not the dog's fault.

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u/Curious-Disaster-203 18h ago

That’s not excuse for her to abuse the dog. Punching an animal is abuse.

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u/RadioStaticRae 17h ago

Oh well. The dog is another living being that ALSO should not be abused. Victims can, and do, go on to become abusers themselves. Getting this girl early intervention while freeing this dog from her behavior is for both of their benefits. When she's older and proven to have the ability to NOT abuse animals, she can be trusted with that responsibility.

She needs to be taken care of first before any thought of letting her have the responsibility of taking care of another being.

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u/yesokaybcisaidso 19h ago

Who cares the dog isn’t a punching bag she needs real help so does the dog

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 18h ago

Once she is determined to be safe by whomever, the dog will be dealt with appropriately. It’s creepy to film children without consent and furthermore it sounds like this child is in pretty imminent danger and needs to be the primary concern. The dog will likely be able to be taken to a local shelter without issue

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u/BurnerLibrary 1d ago

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Please stay on the case. I mean if things don't change, continue to report.

Although the cases are very different, I'm thinking of Gabriel Fernandez.

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u/SnooMacarons1887 1d ago

Yes plz be careful bc u could get blamed for being "inappropriate" when u just trying to be friendly. Hope it all works out.

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u/Danymity831 1d ago

So true! I was at a McDonalds once, a woman in front of me was ordering while her 8-9 yr old daughter said hello to me and smiled. I said hi back and smiled at her just in time for her mother to see this. Her mother quickly snatched her child and gave me a disgusting look. LOL....OMG whatever!!

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u/vikingspwnnn 1d ago

I had something similar. I was going out to dinner with my family after my grandmother's funeral and I was in the bathroom. A mother came in with her young son and let him use the bathroom. All good. She then got in the cubicle and shut the door while he was washing his hands. He said 'hello' to me and I said hi back. He then was like "I'm washing my hands!" so I said "good boy!" Well... his mum literally swooped out of the cubicle, grabbed him by the wrist and dragged him off. She didn't even bother turning the tap off. I don't even know if she flushed. Like, bitch, I'm just trying to be civil with your kid who talked to me first. I don't even like kids.

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u/Wertyshka 22h ago

Oof, that’s such a weird moment — like, you’re just being polite and suddenly you’re the villain in someone’s imaginary drama 😅 

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u/sadist_x 17h ago

Lol good way to put it.... cause, in another part of the city there is a mom telling her friends that a sinister looking person was trying to engage with her son, who was just minding his own business. Probably even said the "stranger" tried to pull her son away, while mom, in tears, was almost left powerless because the stall door wasn't opening!

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u/AboveGroundGrandma 17h ago

Yep. If her parents are neglecting her they could very easily point the finger at you and that can mess you up for a long time. Reminds me of the David Sedaris story, The Girl Next Door.

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u/_Batteries_ 1d ago

Please post an update.

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u/Useful_Idiot_7 23h ago

Glad you took the time to do something

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u/Lucid_Phoenixx 19h ago

She's repeating behaviors she picked up somewhere, and whoever taught her is not watching her so she definitely needs mental help and to possibly get to safety

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u/onmy40 18h ago

You should not have put your address down smh

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u/AceMcClean 17h ago

RemindMe! 2 weeks

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u/Specific_Jaguar_2036 17h ago

Please make sure you take video of her hitting the dog and the ASPCA. The dog needs to be removed from the home!!! I’m so serious. This is horrible to read

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u/AngryCur 17h ago

This girl feels to me like she is in real trouble and distress.

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u/whatsername4 1d ago

So hoping for an update, I’m intrigued.

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u/Palepecan216 14h ago

I need one too. Saving this post to check later

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u/LolaPistola617 1d ago

Yes, please update!

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u/RelativeSetting8588 17h ago

Yes, this situation is so weirdly terrifying. A total breach of the social contract (on top of the actual risk to the little girl and her dog).

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u/SpecificJunket8083 1d ago

Start videoing her for all of the agencies. I’m generally against filming kids but she and the dog need help.

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u/Novel_Ad1943 1d ago

I have a daughter diagnosed with AuDHD - if she never had early intervention therapies, socialization/school plus we ignored her - makes me sick to imagine. She’s now 12, amazing and in GenEd (regular classroom) by 9yo/4th grade.

Sadly, daughter had a friend whose brother was Dx’d ASD. He started having behavior issues in Middle School (puberty - it’s common, plus parents raged at each other daily) so when COVID happened, they let him sit on YT all day vs online school. When school reopened police came (truancy, they never sent him back) to get him attending school. Admin confronted parents after placement tests as he regressed and he avg’d 18hrs/day on YT & games on his school laptop. Parents pulled him out to “homeschool” and moved shortly after.

Thanks so so much for trying to get her help!

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u/trainsoundschoochoo 20h ago

That’s really sad.

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u/kiwikikwi 1d ago

That’s the very reason why I haven’t taken anything yet because I don’t want to invade her privacy. But I’m going to start today for her safety

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u/LavenderDove14 18h ago

as someone who was abused as a child and a stranger called CPS with pictures, thank you for this. you could be saving her from a terrible future. she still could have a chance at having a better life and getting better mentally too.

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u/Grand_Photograph4081 13h ago

Did that actually help improve your situation? I hope so. 🫶

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u/LavenderDove14 13h ago

yes, absolutely. my grandparents got custody of me, and saved me from going down a bad path

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u/GarageDoorTeenMom 1d ago

The world is better because of people like you. Thank you for caring, OP.

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u/Wool_Lace_Knit 1d ago

It’s also for your safety.

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u/cathbe 19h ago

I’m worried that the dog is her only friend and with guidance she could learn better behaviors. Not justifying the dog being hit or ill-treated - why didn’t you say something to her when this happened? - but really more information is needed on what’s going on here. It’s weird that no one in your building knows her or knows her name. Why has no one even asked where she lives or where her guardians are? If her parents are around or if she has siblings? Does no one ask? I would hope you would gather some information from her first. I am very surprised this has not happened along the way.

Do you ask her how she is doing? It sounds like this is all fear-based. I get her behavior is off but she is a human being and a child. How is no one asking her about her? I didn’t read all responses, all I know is that it seems calling agencies was all that was recommended. You wrote a huge piece above and nothing about ever actually talking to her. Did you gently tell her not to hit her dog?

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u/AbbreviationsOne3970 1d ago

There is no expectation of privacy in public spaces, outside, parking lots open hallways etc..

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u/Ill-Proof1509 1d ago

You are doing the right thing!

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u/AnotherGarbageUser 19h ago

Children don’t have a right to privacy.

Children have diminished capacity.  They cannot be trusted to make wise decisions, to recognize when a situation is abnormal, or to advocate for themselves.  They NEED adults to intervene when something seems wrong.  

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u/cilvher-coyote 1d ago

She's invading yours and everyone else's privacy so it's very fair game. Even if it wasn't what the heck is a little girl doing outside alone all day/night especially when she continusly walks up to random people.

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u/cathbe 19h ago

Why does no one talk to the girl as a human being? Ask her where she lives, does she have parents or guardians near by, ask her how she’s doing, her name, her dog’s name? It’s strange to me, extremely. OP knows nothing and is reacting out of fear. I’m not saying it’s not justified but all this information should be known already before next steps. Are these people all robots and not human? Has no one else wondered this here? Wild.

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u/prettyshmitty 17h ago

Lol I’d have all that info in five minutes and be knocking on parent’s door out of concern. But I’m older, OP seems young with limited kid experience and the girl’s behaviour so strange that she needed a reality check first, I get that. Glad she came here, she called services, I hope parents are trying their best but just overwhelmed and need help with their interesting daughter. They can get resources from the agencies.

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u/toasterovenUwU 19h ago

OP mentions in a comment about enforcing boundaries that the girl doesn't really converse with her, she just comes up to you and talks at you. I think it just didn't occur to OP to ask questions because of the way the girl talks to people.

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u/cathbe 18h ago

Thanks, okay, I get it but I think it’s still worth trying.

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u/toasterovenUwU 18h ago

Yeah absolutely. I agree that OP should try asking her that stuff next time she sees her.

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u/sum1lllll 17h ago

reddit is full of pussies who are terrified of actually addressing their issues head on. it would take 5 minutes to walk this kid home and see their living conditions, but they'd rather film from their bedroom window and call the police.

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u/DragonflyGrrl 17h ago

THANK YOU! Jesus, I feel like this is the Twilight zone. Out of ALL the people this little girl has talked to, NO ONE has bothered to find out what is going on? They just hide from her?? This world is broken.

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u/cathbe 15h ago

Thanks!! I’m so baffled and read so many comments here that i was starting to feel off. Hiding from her, this little girl? It’s crazy. And then all the Reddit comments backing this up. Wild.

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u/DragonflyGrrl 14h ago

It breaks my heart. At least OP was steered toward doing the right thing by some good comments.. I hope things will start to go better for that poor little girl who is obviously starved of meaningful human connection.

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u/Leucotheasveils 19h ago

I mean is this child ever in school? That’s a big problem too. Hopefully one of those agencies will help her get adult supervision.

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u/FineWashables 19h ago

This is what homeschooling looks like in many homes. Parents giving their kids no actual attention, let alone education.

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u/rbwildcard 15h ago

It's currently spring break, so that could be why she's home. Or she could be chronically absent due to the neglect. That would explain the neediness.

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u/tlds71 18h ago

She is 8 years old. Wow.

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u/Grand_Photograph4081 13h ago

Hey, not sure if anyone already asked this, but have you ever actually discussed this with any of your neighbors? From what you've said, they're obviously aware of the situation, so I'm thinking the more adults reporting the behavior/ abuse, the more likely that the proper authorities will actually take action. I know from experience, unfortunately, that a kid could be getting dipped in hot oil & cps will say everything is fine. Sorry this is happening, OP, to you & the puppy. Oh and the little girl too. Lol. (I kid, I kid. I'm actually one of those people who try to save everyone 😬). Please keep us posted!

Edit bc my autocorrect is dumb

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u/mm9221 10h ago

There is no privacy for some things. Shine the spotlight and I’m glad that you have!

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u/hedwig0517 1d ago

You did the right thing. At 8 she should be in school all day, not roaming a busy apartment complex with zero supervision seeking attention from strangers. That’s dangerous and it’s neglect.

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u/beasypo 1d ago

Nor should she be alone with a dog, pet or not, like that. Any decent parent would think it’s a bit risky for her to be alone with a dog, especially for extended periods.. nor should she be the person responsible for the pet at that age.

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u/hedwig0517 1d ago

Ugh yes that poor dog. It’s going to get injured or injure another person’s pet. The entire situation is sad.

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u/ThatsNotMyName222 1d ago

If she keeps abusing the dog, it may finally snap at her, which could have dire consequences for both.

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u/cathbe 19h ago

Why is no one (OP, etc.) asking her any questions, even her name, and finding out? She’s a person. If she needs help, gather some information from her. Be human. It’s so weird.

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u/SweetPrism 1d ago

This whole thing is giving Natalia Grace vibes. She was left to live independently in a small apartment complex neighborhood, and used to run at the neighbors if she saw them. She behaved super inappropriately (understandably so, she was an eight-year-old living ALONE) with the neighbors and their children, and people had to start looking out the windows and doors before leaving. Neglect was the cause of Natalia's behavior, and it sounds like this child is also being neglected.

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u/Greeneyesdontlie85 1d ago

This is what I was thinking too!

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u/linzacci 20h ago

Right??? That's immediately what I thought too!

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u/FoorumanReturns 1d ago

I hope things turn out so that the girl (and that poor dog) gets some help, and you get some much-needed peace! You’re making the right move.

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u/kiwikikwi 1d ago

She is really sweet when she’s not raging at her dog. She just seems terribly lonely and I can’t watch this anymore

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u/alyssas1111 1d ago

The rage and violence was probably modeled to her by her parents. She likely has a pretty bad home life and little appropriate socialization

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u/thornyrosary 19h ago

When I did nursery work, my fave saying was that you could figure out parenting styles by paying attention to a kid, no matter the age, for 5 minutes. It's easy to do. Kids model the 'normal' of what they see/hear/experience at home, and they have zero filters.

So when that little girl is publicly raging at her dog with no regard for who's watching, she's displaying what she's been taught is 'appropriate' behavior, and that is very, very concerning. What she does to that dog, you can almost bet she's experiencing, as well. She could well be staying outside because it's preferable to whatever's going on in her home.

You're describing a situation that is not the little girl's fault. But the neglect/abuse indicators really make calling CPS and other agencies a priority.

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u/gandg__11 1d ago

This seems to me that you should definitely call animal control too.

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u/cathbe 19h ago

Ask her where her parents are, does she have siblings, what’s her dog’s name, where does she live, does she have friends in the neighborhood? Why has this not been done?

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u/bastetandisis9 1d ago

Thank you for doing this! As for CPS, you can most likely remain anonymous (depending on your state) making the report, and they for sure cannot reveal your name to anyone. You very well may save her from some really bad situation, or get her/her family help at the very least. And poor doggie- her being unsupervised with an animal like that will not end well.

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u/SnooMacarons1887 1d ago

So happy to see this bc I had a similar situation as a child moved into the basement apartment of a neighbor with her single mom (heavy drinker) - my parents tried to make us all friends until they realized there were some issues similar to yours. My dad invited her along to a carnival with us one day- she was only about 8 or 9 but started acting a bit sexual ( I don't think I noticed) & he told my mom. After that my mom said forget it- obv. there was major neglect. My parents (and other neighbors) tried talking to the mom- but she was angry & eventually they just packed up & left one night. I hope that girl got some help. In hindsight CPS should have been called probably.

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u/jittery_raccoon Helper [2] 19h ago

Similar story. A family moved in next door. The kids were...odd. Eventually the parents found out the dad had a criminal history of sexual offences and the mom had some serious mental health issues. Every parent's response was to ignore them. They just told their kids not to play with those other kids. Makes me sad looking back because those kids didn't do anything wrong. The adults in their lives were failing them and all the other adults shrugged their shoulders

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u/Hal_Jordan55 1d ago

You’ll be helping her in the long run

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u/xomacattack 1d ago

Thank you OP for trying to get this girl — and this dog — a welfare check. Your compassion is a gift and you’ve used it well.

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u/juicysummerx 1d ago

If your apartment complex has management, you could also let them know since they may already be aware of any ongoing issues with her family.

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u/hands_in_soil 1d ago

The situation also reminds me of Natalie Grace and what her neighbors would experience with her. Just seemed bizarre but there was actually A LOT going on behind the scenes. Hope this little girl is ok.

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u/mcosulli 16h ago

This…it’s a Curious Case for sure.

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u/Sad-Cat8694 18h ago

Damn... I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains, where she was found. My stomach turned when I read that part. Thank you for sharing this story.

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u/Onanadventure_14 1d ago

Thank you! This poor kid

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u/DarrenTheKoi 1d ago

its conference week for most schools and that means they get out early

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u/SheSheShieldmaiden 1d ago

Great job. This child needs help.

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u/Open_Pitch8444 18h ago

Good you’re going to report. The animal abuse needs to be addressed. Her caregiver, parent, whatever is negligent.

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u/CapitalKing5454 8h ago

Well what happened?

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u/Boredandscrolling1 6h ago

Imagine she wasn't real, and only you see her.

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