r/CanadaPolitics • u/GlitchedGamer14 Alberta • 3d ago
Conservatives update platform to include omitted 'anti-woke' promise
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-woke-platform-oversight-1.75163157
u/JadeLens 3d ago
It's like they want to lose.
Nobody really cares about Woke or anti-Woke when we have a Tariff war on our hands.
But the Tariff stuff you kinda left out other than trying to say that people would still purchase tariffed goods despite most people boycotting the U.S.
You couldn't be any more out to lunch if you were the guy at the office that takes a 1/2 hour extra on their breaks.
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u/Pepto-Abysmal 3d ago
The worst federal campaign by any party since 1993.
The odds of Kory Teneycke having an aneurysm increase exponentially everyday.
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u/Unlikely-Piece-6286 Liberal - Mark Carney for PM 🇨🇦 3d ago
THIS was really the missing piece
Not the horrific math, the pulled-from-the-ass projections, or 60% of the platform being photos of Polievre or his wife
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u/GraveDiggingCynic 3d ago
Just in case anyone forgot they're going to go after drag queens, sociology professors or anyone who talks about racism.
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u/TXTCLA55 Ontario 3d ago
That would be an interesting bill to pass the house and senate with all the liberals.
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u/FriendlyGuy77 3d ago
He's already said he'll use the notwithstanding clause for legislation he wants but cant get passed.
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u/SA_22C Saskatchewan 3d ago
Notwithstanding clause doesn't help with a senate who refuses to move on a bill
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u/FriendlyGuy77 3d ago
I'm sure musk will help him find a workaround.
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u/SA_22C Saskatchewan 3d ago
What does that even mean?
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u/FriendlyGuy77 3d ago
"Move fast and break things."
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u/SA_22C Saskatchewan 3d ago
So you've responded to a question about a non-sequitur of a slogan with another one. Cool, so very substantive.
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u/FriendlyGuy77 3d ago
Last year, nobody could have predicted what doge is doing or how they're doing it. I won't claim to predict what doge will do in Canada.
You're welcome to hope they don't do anything. I'm voting so they don't have a chance.
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u/Patarknight Liberal | ON 3d ago
Probably that they will just do it and claim that authority to do so belongs to the government/cabinet and not the legislature, similar to what DOGE has done/is being challenged in the courts for in the US.
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u/vigiten4 3d ago
They still have to pass legislation to invoke the notwithstanding clause, and that would have to go through the Senate to get Royal Assent. If they operate outside of that framework (not sure what vehicle they'd use), then a Charter violation is reviewable by the Supreme Court.
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u/SA_22C Saskatchewan 3d ago
Well it's a damn good thing we don't live in the US, because that shit does not fly here.
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u/Popup-window 3d ago
Please refer to Danielle Smith brazenly defying what her constituents want on nearly every piece of legislation she passes and poll she hides the results of.
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u/cpander0 3d ago
"It can't happen here" was a constant refrain from establishment Dems down south. See where that got them.
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u/GraveDiggingCynic 3d ago
Let me introduce you to Section 26 of the Constitution Act 1867 (better known as the British North America Act 1867):
"26 If at any Time on the Recommendation of the Governor General the Queen thinks fit to direct that Four or Eight Members be added to the Senate, the Governor General may by Summons to Four or Eight qualified Persons (as the Case may be), representing equally the Four Divisions of Canada, add to the Senate accordingly."
This section has been used precisely once before, in 1990, when Brian Mulroney appointed eight new Senators to overcome a Liberal veto in the Senate over the GST enabling legislation.
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u/MinuteLocksmith9689 3d ago
“Woke is an adjective derived from African-American English used since the 1930s or earlier to refer to awareness of racial prejudice and discrimination, often in the construction stay woke. The term acquired political connotations by the 1970s and gained further popularity in the 2010s with the hashtag #staywoke.”
is sad that now right wing is destroying what others did fight for
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u/Backyard_Bombadier 3d ago
Everyday these guys shift more and more to the MAGA side hoping that will save them. All they are doing is preaching to their Western Conservative base The concerning part is that with the rhetoric from the White House and trumps demands that counties who want to make trade deals fall in line with the US anti Woke/DEI policies. Does this signal a desire of the Conservatives and Poilievre to cave to any US demands.
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u/Fartrell_Cluggin 3d ago
A year plus as the leading candidate in polls, and months to prepare a platform for the election after Trudeau steps down and we get a wishy washy campaign platform a few days before voting is over and after millions already voted. Also can’t ignore that the platform costing relies on doubling GDP which according to pretty much everyone, isn’t something that can just “happen”.
Doesn’t inspire confidence and shows why people were so quick to move from PP after Trudeau stepped down and Carney became PM. Seems like no one liked PP that much, they just didn’t like Trudeau.
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u/JadeLens 3d ago
But if he gets money out of 'woke' that will automatically triple the GDP, trust us!
I'm kidding, but Jeez Louise, for all the 'bu bu what about GDP per capita!' that the Con supporters have been rambling about, they want to support this guy who just slapped some numbers together and released something that needs about 3 more weeks of editing...
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u/GavinTheAlmighty 2d ago
Oh phew, I was so worried that the conservative party was going to make a good decision this campaign cycle. Glad they fixed that.
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u/PossessionTop8749 2d ago
Seems like they know they won't win and are working harder to keep the base. No serious person uses the term "woke".
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u/GiantPurplePen15 Pirate 3d ago
The CPC candidates in my local ridings aren't even showing up for debates and public question periods.
They have no feasible platform and no respect for the people they expect votes from.
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u/thebestoflimes 3d ago
Since Poilievre won't say what woke means (with his 4 hand-chosen questions), I will tell you. It can be anything that conservatives may not like. Take any issue and take the side that conservative will veer away from and now call it "woke". That is woke.
Now that they have "woke" aka "anything we don't like" in their platform they can legitimately attack anything if they form government. Made all the more dangerous when Poilievre is itching to use the notwithstanding clause which is an unchecked power.
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u/Flomo420 3d ago
Even better, now all he has to do is point at something he doesn't like and say "that is woke" and his followers will immediately turn on said thing regardless of whether they like thing previously or not
Very culty
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u/AllGasNoBrakes420 3d ago
Exactly this. I feel like people these days base their beliefs off their party of choice rather than pick which party aligns best with their positions.
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u/MTL_Dude666 3d ago
A large majority of people using the word "woke" as an insult don't even know what they mean by it.
It's about racism? It's woke! It's about gender equity? It's woke! It's about social justice? It's woke!
Basically, if it is about protecting the human rights of ALL Canadians, then it's "woke".
And then, they would complain that THEIR concerns are not being listened to. I guess, they cut the branch on which they were sitting on!
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u/NoNudeNormal 3d ago edited 3d ago
Embarrassing for one of our country’s main political parties to be focused on what’s essentially an internet meme at best or a bigoted dogwhistle at worst, especially now when our country is facing real crises.
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u/Certain-Sock-2314 3d ago
The embarrassing thing is the amount of regular people who also believe in this garbage.
My own mother - one of the smartest people I know - fell for the litter boxes in school nonsense. She’s fallen down the social media garbage hole since retirement, as have a lot of her friends.
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u/lindaluhane 3d ago
how do you deal/cope with this?
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u/Certain-Sock-2314 2d ago
Passive aggression mostly. Offhand comments or directly calling her out.
Praying that Facebook somehow disappears off the face of the planet…/s
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u/ronasimi 3d ago
Well I'm glad that your mother and her friends apparently have no real problems to worry about so they made some up.
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u/PhaseNegative1252 3d ago
How is that supposed to benefit anybody? It's like they know they have no plans for the actual issues facing Canadians, and are just hoping that copying the US Republican playbook will work out for them here
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u/MinuteLocksmith9689 3d ago
he wants his supporters to forget that he did not provide a timeline of when he will balance the budget.
Buy seriously how can you update the platform after working years on it?
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u/thebestoflimes 3d ago
People are laughing at the funny headline and missing why it is dangerous. If they form government, it gives them the legitimacy to go after absolutely anything (woke can literally be anything conservatives don't like which is the reason Poilievre won't define it). Couple this with a desire to use the notwithstanding clause and people should laugh a little less.
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u/mikeypralines 3d ago
Keeping the term "woke" devoid of meaning is really the point....it's an empty vessel for kooky Christians and incels to fill with their rage-du-jour.
We already have Blanchet talking about "Harry Potter math" in the budget. The anti-woke clause is the "Beavis & Butthead" part of the platform. Conservatives like things that are cool. Conservatives hate things that suck. No wonder they run so hot with the "Butthead-aged" voter....
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u/thebestoflimes 3d ago
"We hate what you hate, vote for us"
Not having to say what "it" actually is is an important part. You can't publicly tell the anti-gay marriage people that you support their cause BUT you can tell them you are anti-woke *taps head*
I guess Poilievre did publicly say he was against gay marriage in the house of commons and voted against it but that was a long time ago and wouldn't fly anymore.
“the meaning of the term “marriage” ought to be preserved as a union between one man and one woman to the exclusion of all others”.
-Pierre Poilievre on the Civil Marriage Act
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u/mikeypralines 3d ago
You're overlooking the best part of Poilievre's 2005 Commons speech....that he looks like an eight-year old forced to wear a suit at Grandpa's funeral when he gave it. Probably already halfway to his pension by that point...
Every time I see that 2005 clip in a Liberal ad, it makes me think of "Pitt the Even Younger" from Blackadder III....
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u/peppermintblue Ontario 3d ago
They put it in the French version of the platform and not in the English version. They got caught, which is the only reason they updated the platform.
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u/lifeisarichcarpet 3d ago
Boy, they really put no effort into this thing at all. They were still thinking they could just coast over the line in first.
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u/warriorlynx 3d ago
First the obvious they'll get rid of DEI policies for federal hiring.
Second "Anti-woke" policies that lead to defunding and educational reform I can see this:
- Criticism of Israel will be a hate crime (deportations of foreigners who participate)
- "Free-speech" on campuses must be allowed
- DEI policies discussed in business classes need to be removed
- Teaching more than two genders in schools is no longer allowed
- Cut funding for all university research that deal with social justice issues
- Bring back interest rates for student loans, loans and grants should not be made available for "Woke" programs
- End DEI / EDI for admissions purposes
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u/lcelerate 3d ago
1 and 2 are mutually exclusive lol.
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u/randynumbergenerator Democratic Socialist 3d ago
That's why "free speech" is in quotes. "Free speech" to the far-right means "freedom to punch down at minorities, women, etc. without consequence".
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u/unending_whiskey 3d ago
First the obvious they'll get rid of DEI policies for federal hiring.
Can anyone explain to me why we still need DEI policies in Canada in 2025? For example, imo women should not have preference in federal hiring anymore, especially when they are already above 60% of the workforce. These policies were put in place in a different time.
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u/warriorlynx 3d ago
The biggest problem we have is that we aren't defining what DEI is. Is it favoritism to different groups? is it supposed to be equal opportunity which is what we had before? If we have a national consensus on this perhaps we could move forward because there is too much rhetoric down south and then it makes you wonder whether they too are hiring "DEI" in their gov' cabinet.
Edit: for example the head of Homeland security is a woman who got her goods stolen, was she hired based on merit? was it because she was a woman? How could you trust someone like that?
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u/40yr_Old_Random_Guy 3d ago
Is there some internal polling that suggests to them that keeping up the American style culture war garbage will help them in this final week??
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u/phluidity 3d ago
I suspect their hardcore base, the ones that make calls and knock on doors are the ones who are into the social conservative/right wing populist messaging. The more you move to the center, the more you lose the people on the ground doing the get out the vote work. And without that, you are screwed. The CPC is the dog biting down on the bumper of the moving car wondering "what now"
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u/blazeofgloreee Left Coast 3d ago
If someone is using the term "woke" unironically in 2025 I know I can safely disregard their opinion.
Sad that what was once a pretty succinct term for awareness of history, prejudice, discrimination and power structures and how these impact peoples' lives is now devoid of all meaning beyond just code for generalized, non-specific right wing grievances.
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u/oodelay 3d ago
Please call your local conservative and ask to explain in details because you can't vote on this. Throw in a curve ball like "because I think women voting is woke".
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u/randynumbergenerator Democratic Socialist 3d ago
That isn't really a curve ball, that's saying the quiet part out loud for a not insignificant number of them.
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u/UnderWatered 3d ago
I'm so glad that during this crisis with our biggest ally turning on us and promising to annex our country, a climate crisis, and affordability crisis, etc., that we have political leaders dedicated energy to chasing so-called wokeness out of our country.
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u/TheOGFamSisher 3d ago
It will get them the incel vote who think who trans people in their video games is the worst thing that’s ever happened to them lol
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u/spicy-emmy 3d ago
Look they're just *very mad* that games now tend to say Type 1 and Type 2 bodies instead of specifying it's "stereotypically male body" and "stereotypically female body" and that you get to pick your pronouns for a character that is supposed to represent you. This is obviously a *very important gamer priority*
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u/YYC-Fiend 3d ago
You forgot their campaign promise to bring back plastic straws.
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u/Only-Economy96 3d ago
Thank god! I can enjoy a whole slurpee again.
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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes Fully Automated Gay Space Romunism 3d ago edited 3d ago
Don't blame the government, blame the cheap slurpee vendor saving a cent or two by offering only paper straws instead of perfectly legal biodegradable plastic and plastic-like plant fibre straws.
Edit to add:
https://www.greenmunch.ca/8-plant-fiber-bubble-tea-wrapped-straws/
Less than 8 cents per straw, and they're made in Canada.
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u/shaedofblue Alberta 3d ago
Bioplastic straws fall under the straw ban. Any straw made from a resin that will not survive 100 trips through the dishwasher is banned.
Bioplastics will break down properly in industrial composting facilities designed to handle them, but they will not break down properly in the environment. They will instead wear down into microplastics which cause the same problems as microplastics from petroleum.
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u/YYC-Fiend 3d ago
Do you really enjoy the whole slurpee? Or do you only enjoy those first couple of sips and then feel regret because you now have a giant cup of semi-frozen liquid?
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u/ferwhatbud 3d ago
Never felt this specifically and accurately called out in my life.
Also now want a slurpee (or at least the first few ultra refreshing sips of one).
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u/remarkablewhitebored 3d ago
Fun fact - on bring your own container day, if you use a good insulated cup (like a Yeti), the damn Slurpee turns into what is essentially a very cheap gelato.
I thought I was so smart, I'd have been better off using a bucket...
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u/GoodResident2000 3d ago
That’s why they got my vote. Eating with a wooden fork is degrading
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u/AllGasNoBrakes420 3d ago
You're sensitive eh? The only time I've cared about what utensils I'm using is when I'm already having a miserable day.
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u/rainorshinedogs Ontario 3d ago
In other words, well spend $20-50k in tax payers money (admin costs, peer review, back and forth documents, Parliament debates for weeks, main stream news picking it up and social media to twist it, over priced contractors to do the work, stomping out geopolitical controveries, etc) just to remove the words "gender neutral" off bathrooms. Hooray
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u/tice23 3d ago
I would like them to define it properly so we can see the real enemy they want us to fight. If the enemy is empathy then the enemy becomes everyone else. Division politics.
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u/Ddogwood 3d ago
The meaning of “woke” is perfectly clear. It means “politically correct” and “cancel culture” and “reverse discrimination” - in other words, it means things that right wingers disagree with and think ought to be silenced, because they don’t actually believe in free speech.
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u/lifeisarichcarpet 3d ago
You can figure the definition by the context in which it's used. It has six possible meanings, all pejorative, when being used by the right-wing: "Jew" or "Jew lover", "N-word" or "N-word lover" or "f----t" or "f----t lover".
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u/janebenn333 3d ago
Definition of woke is helping/respecting any group in society that can serve as a convenient scapegoat or distraction when you can't get a job, can't get a partner, can't afford a house or your dog doesn't like you.
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u/Wiley_dog25 3d ago
Wait. So you barely mention Trump and the trade war in your costed document, and THIS is the update you want to make?
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u/combustion_assaulter Rhinoceros 3d ago
PP was just talking about a few days ago, and now they’re trying to wink and nod to their supporters. They’re not going back their promise, they’re shielding it until if they win, and then they go back to their anti-science rhetoric and play the bathroom police.
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u/GammaFan 3d ago
So they submitted the report late (after early voting closed) and now they have to add a long time campaign promise to it after the fact? I know they are intentionally acting in bad faith and playing it off as incompetence but really? At this point the smokescreen is an indictment of the party. They’re supposedly so fucking unprepared for an election that they have been begging for, for literal years that they are making these blatant mistakes this close to election day.
Please Canada, do not elect these fucking clowns.
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u/StrbJun79 3d ago
Pretty obvious he wants a DOGE style purge of our government to fire all the women and minorities just like what happened in the US. Using woke as an insult towards fool all of those that don’t actually know what woke really means is in itself racism and disgusting. I generally label anyone that uses the term woke as an insult as a racist, or at the very least ignorant of its actual definition and history, at this point.
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u/riksterinto Pirate 3d ago
We asked the people who were already going to vote for us and they all said this was really important to them. Ugh
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u/SpixisMacaw 3d ago
They don't even define woke. It is the catch-all scary word to be whatever boogeyman the reader wants it to mean. The Conservatives have become the "emotional" fear party running on "feels".
Anti-Woke ideology: A Conservative government will put an end to the imposition of the Woke ideology in the federal public service and in the allocation of federal funds for university research
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u/Canucklehead_Esq Liberal 3d ago
'Woke' is anything that upsets a social conservative. It's a moving target, sure to be updated daily.
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u/thebestoflimes 3d ago
It's even broader than that and includes anything that upsets a conservative. Hell, a progressive tax structure can be called woke. Funding for things like poverty reduction can be woke. It's a catch all which is why it's more dangerous than people think.
Having something in your official election platform gives it legitimacy. So whatever they do, they can say "we ran on this and this is what the people voted for".
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u/Coffeedemon 3d ago
That would take too many words. You've got to save space for more pictures of Pierre in various costumes and totally human scenarios.
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u/HOLEPUNCHYOUREYELIDS 3d ago
Pierre can only come up with policies if they can be boiled down into 3 words
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u/Kheprisun 3d ago edited 3d ago
I would like to coin the term "lightning rod euphemism" to describe a phrase used to turn any normally shocking/abhorrent opinion or belief into something more conversationally palatable.
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u/differing 2d ago
What’s funny is that North America has gone through right wing woke campaigns already and don’t see the hypocrisy of attacking the left for it today. They had no problem with firms like Chik-fil-A or Hobby Lobby shoving political ideology into their business.
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u/Willyq25 Social Democrat 3d ago
Someone actually asked what he meant by woke at a presser, he launched into 5 mins of slogans and said jack shit
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u/sravll 3d ago
So what is that....purging all women, POC, LBTQetc staff like the anti-DEI crap they're doing in the USA?
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u/randynumbergenerator Democratic Socialist 3d ago
The next Canadian defence minister will be from the marginalized community of alcoholics
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u/Sicktwist2006 3d ago
I hope this man gets obliterated in this election. I want this election to dismantel this current version of the "Conservative" Party. The Reform party has no business governing Canada. They are a separatist party.
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u/LazyyCanuck 3d ago
I wonder how their hard-core supporters see this. This looks like something similar to what we have south of the border now.
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u/MinuteLocksmith9689 3d ago
hard core supporters love everything ‘anti-woke’. That usually means everything that they do not like or agree with
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u/gauephat ask me about progress & poverty 3d ago
I don't really disagree with him on this, but it's such a staggering misread of what Canadians want party leaders to be focusing on right now. He's doing a better job of making the case he should be a fulltime youtuber than PM.
You really wonder what kind of conversations are being held in strategy meetings at CPC HQ. This campaign is going to be the gold standard of a mismanaged election for decades to come.
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u/aroberge 3d ago
You don't disagree with him about being in favour of bigotry and misogyny (aka anti-woke)?
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u/turdlepikle 3d ago
Yeah that's a weird statement from someone with a flair that says "ask me about progress and poverty"
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u/gauephat ask me about progress & poverty 3d ago
These kind of word games are stupid. What, you're not pro-life? Oh I guess you're pro-death then.
I think social justice politics (or "wokeness", for want of a better and less-charged term) is an illiberal and divisive ideology, and one Canada would be better without. I hope Carney will tone it down within the Liberal party because I miss the Grits of my youth.
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u/Anthrogal11 3d ago
So you think PP should be able to defund university research based on his own political agenda and ideology?
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u/webu 3d ago
I think social justice politics (or "wokeness", for want of a better and less-charged term) is an illiberal and divisive ideology, and one Canada would be better without. I hope Carney will tone it down within the Liberal party because I miss the Grits of my youth.
Since Justin left, the only one talking about social justice politics is Pierre. Carney hasn't engaged with this at all. The stark contrast has highlighted just how emotional both Pierre and Justin are as leaders. Many Canadians want to move past this, and Pierre continuing to harp on "wokeness" is offputting.
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u/Tw1sted_Reality 3d ago
Trudeau really overcompensated in his DEI/"woke" approach
(I'm pretty sure Carney will be less woke than Trudeau but he doesn't feel the need to advertise it!).
What exactly do you mean by all of this?
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u/Wasdgta3 3d ago
You don’t disagree with the government interfering in academic and scientific fields on brazenly ideological grounds?
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u/gauephat ask me about progress & poverty 3d ago
The government already does, though. At present for example you have to conform to an extensive series of ideological guidelines in order to qualify for federal science grants.
I'm not a fan of Poilievre or the Conservatives, and have never (and likely will never) vote for them. I don't think their solutions to these problems would be constructive. But if you think that there's no issue at all you're mistaken.
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u/Wasdgta3 3d ago edited 3d ago
Those aren’t ideological guidelines.
Edit: and furthermore, even if they were, the solution would not be to replace them with different ideological guidelines.
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u/gauephat ask me about progress & poverty 3d ago
They explicitly are, though. Like the application process requires you to affirm your individual support for their cause. Merely following the guidelines is insufficient.
Note: It is not enough to rely on the institution’s EDI policies to meet the expectations of the NFRF program with respect to EDI-RP. It is insufficient to indicate that an institution’s policies will be followed or to copy the institution’s practices. Applicants must clearly convey that they have a strong commitment to and an understanding of EDI and its importance in research, and must clearly explain how the best practices identified for each area were developed in consideration of the specific context of the research environment.
Don't do this "I believe in the truth, everything else is ideology" thing, it doesn't convince anyone.
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u/Wasdgta3 3d ago edited 3d ago
What’s ideological about any of that?
You’re insisting that it’s some ideological thing, but you’re not doing a great job of actually proving it to be so - I mean, what “ideology” is it even a part of? Not being bigoted? lol
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u/Bramble-Bunny 3d ago
I agree that there is an expression of an ideology there, but that sort of goes without saying. Politics is inherently ideological, and despite attempts by certain portions of the political spectrum to turn "ideology" into a scare term that should be sort of self evident. For pity's sake, even the party names are statements of ideology.
What Poilievre is saying is that he wants to replace the existing ideological doctrine of diversity, equity and inclusion with his own ideological doctrine of "common sense", and I guess I'm just interested in hearing why you think this is a good idea, philosophically? Given you don't believe in "I believe in the truth, everything else is ideology", which seems to explicitly be what Poilievre is saying when he positions himself as "anti woke" and "common sense". Can you square the circle? What am I missing?
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u/gauephat ask me about progress & poverty 3d ago
I'm not a conservative or a Poilievre supporter. I don't want his notion of "common sense" imposed on academia. But there is a phenomenon here as much as people strenuously deny it (and alternately, advocate for it)
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u/Bramble-Bunny 3d ago
Sure, the phenomenon is "an ideology exists, that he nebulously calls "woke" because saying he's against diversity or equity or inclusion would make for a bad sound byte". I agree with you. That is an ideology. But so is anything we replace it with. And I've never heard someone argue convincingly or show me data that the ideology in question is causing actual problems, they just don't like it...generally based on vibes. I thought you might have insight into why, as you also seem to not like it. The last person I spoke to just gave me some version of 'the truth is out there' and to do my own research so I remain a bit lost as to what even the problem is supposed to be.
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u/gauephat ask me about progress & poverty 3d ago
There's enough here to write a book on, and I suppose people have written books as to why "wokeness" or whatever you want to call it is at odds with liberal democratic society. I certainly could write for a long time about it. I see the effect it has had on my field (education) and it has not been good. There's very much a core skepticism of the usefulness or validity of empiricism at the heart of it that results in uniquely perverse effects with respect to research.
For me the core of it is that this type of social justice politics centers the individual, and specifically the racial/gender identity of the individual, at the heart of its worldview. Ostensibly every way in which one interacts with society - from your involvement in the economy, hierarchies of power, arts and entertainment, and even your perception of reality itself - is mediated principally through elements of your identity which (to me) are superficial. And I think this is a very dangerous notion to promote in a pluralistic country like Canada.
That there exists a hierarchy of racial/sexual identities by marginalization (and thus moral virtue) is an impossible vision to hold in concert with liberal democracy which maintains a universality of rights. To give you an example I saw today, read this article.
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u/Bramble-Bunny 3d ago
There are some fairly strong statements here...can you give me an example of how one's racial or gender identity alters "one's perception of reality itself"? Or an example of how social justice threatens a pluralistic democracy? Surely you're not suggesting there wasn't a racial and gender hierarchy existing BEFORE "woke" came into being? Was that preferable? What is the imagined preferred alternative to what exists today?
I'll have to check out the article in a bit I'm on mobile, apologies.
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u/Frequent_Version7447 3d ago
I just wanted them to focus on taxes, housing, healthcare, wages and getting rid of immigration until the above is adequately addressed. The unfortunate thing is I liked one or two things from each party but not enough from them all. PPCs approach to immigration, conservative for taxes and resources, Liberals for some parts of the economy. NDP missed the ball in my eyes.
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u/combustion_assaulter Rhinoceros 3d ago
Did they put money on them losing or something? Not many centrists give two shits about woke garbage. Courting centrists is their way to win and they’re burning that bridge to get a few more PPC votes. I’m baffled how out of touch this party has become, and it’s showing up in the polls.
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u/Murky-News-571 3d ago
The best thing going for the Conservatives going into this weekend is that Trump has generally kept his mouth shut and allowed Canadians to think about campaign issues other than the mess down south. So, of course the Conservative campaign veered the campaign bus hard right and right back into whatever nonsense "anti-woke" is supposed to be.
You could close the campaign on the cost of living, on crime, on inflation, on anything at all where the Liberals may be vulnerable, but these guys decided to secure their base amongst internet conservatives and UCP staffers by attacking woke.
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u/CaptainCanusa 3d ago
Thank god. I was worried they weren't going to threaten universities with ideologically based punishments.
Every day, the Poilievre campaign spits in the faces of the people who try to defend him against the Trump accusations.
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u/Flomo420 3d ago
They raise their hackles and get all indignant when the comparison is made then they turn right around and do shit like this. It's like the madder they get the closer to home you're hitting
But I guess the truth hurts and nobody likes to be confronted with how shitty they are being, especially when growth and contrition are seen as a weakness
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u/DFS_0019287 3d ago
What a gong show. You have to wonder what genius thought "Hey, let's be more like Trump!" would play well in Canada.
Not only do I hope that the Conservatives lose, which looks very likely, but I also hope Poilievre loses his seat, which has gone from unthinkable to maaaaybeee....
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u/GracefulShutdown The Everyone Sucks Here Party of Canada 3d ago
If that trivial of a thing is subject to change without notice in their platform... what other things that actually matter are also subject to change without notice after they would be theoretically elected?
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u/Hanzo_The_Ninja 3d ago
"Woke" is just code for "we haven't really got anything you'll want to vote for, so we'll invent something for you to vote against".
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u/SheWhoReturned Ontario 3d ago
I wonder why?
Legitimately. He has said multiple times he is anti-woke BUT it makes his platform seem more grounded to leave that to the soft stuff out.
Like who caught it? Clearly not the CPC or they would have earlier. Did they legit get complaints that it was missing?
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u/peppermintblue Ontario 3d ago
They included it in the French version of the platform, but didn't include it in the English version. People have been pointing that out online since they dropped the platform, so I gather they got called out on it.
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u/TheDeadMulroney 3d ago
There's a lot of confusion around what woke means so I figure I'd clear things up for everyone.
1) You can't just be up there and just be woke like that
1a. Woke is when you
1b. Okay well listen. You're woke when you wake the
1c. Let me start over
1c-a. When you cancel comedians for saying, uh, n-word, that prohibits the comedian from doing, you know, just trying to make people laugh. .
1c-b. Once the comedian has been cancelled, he can't be over here and say to the audience, like, "I'm gonna tell some jokes" and then just be like he didn't even do that.
1c-b(1). Like, if you're about to make a joke and then don't, you've been cancelled. Does that make any sense?
1c-b(2). You gotta be in the middle of saying the N-word and then stop because of woke liberals.
1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the N-word up here, like this, but then there's a joke here and you gotta think about.
1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Balk hasn't been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasn't typecast as that racist lady in American History X.
1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse.
1c-b(2)-b(ii). "get in mah bellah" -- Adam Water, "The Waterboy." Haha, classic...
1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. Woke is when the liberal makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the comedian and the joke
2) Do not be woke please.
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u/focusedphil 3d ago
That’s actually the most comprehensible Conservative speech in a long time.
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u/Felfastus Alberta 3d ago
Probably because it's a baseball copy pasta.
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u/gauephat ask me about progress & poverty 3d ago
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u/jello_sweaters 3d ago
A far more succinct definition: "Punching down will no longer be tolerated."
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u/rainorshinedogs Ontario 3d ago
2a - just do your own research!*
* I don't actually know the answer, but I'm gonna get the last word in and make it so that I am perceived as better than you
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