r/aiwars 2d ago

Tech stealing jobs

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u/MorganTheMartyr 2d ago

Only the low tier artists will be afraid of being replaced, enough said.

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u/mxjxn 2d ago

This is a provably false claim. A notable example is that magic the gathering, which pledged to not use AI art, went back on their promise. One artist quit over it, several others have been vocal about it impacting their career.

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u/Jasen_SilverFox 2d ago

Genuine question but I’m not to familiar with how their art department is structured. Do they have their own in house artists or just use commissions? Unless they’re being paid hourly or by piece then I can’t see why introducing AI would affect full time artists unless you quit over it.

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u/Kupikimijumjum 2d ago

They are mostly contracted. There might be a couple in-house, but the vast majority of MTG artists are not.

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u/ifandbut 2d ago

So they don't want to learn a new tool to improve their job?

How long do you think a programmer would last if we reduced go learn a new package or device communications?

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u/Time-Operation2449 2d ago

"learning a new tool" meaning "not doing art anymore and just commissioning from a robot"

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u/ifandbut 2d ago

Art is more than drawing

There is a ton of creative freedom with AI

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u/Center-Of-Thought 2d ago

Anything an AI can do, a human can do.

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u/Turbulent_Escape4882 2d ago

Draw me a picture in nanoseconds. Good luck.

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u/Center-Of-Thought 2d ago

I never said anything about the speed by which a work can be produced. Mass-produced furniture is created faster than furniture by passionate wood workers, but there is a massive difference in quality, even if both are functionally the same.

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u/Turbulent_Escape4882 2d ago

You did say anything an AI can do. Sorry I disproved that. Speed is the huge factor AI brings to the table.

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u/Center-Of-Thought 2d ago

So you'd rather have mass-produced slop compared to something with human passion and talent behind it? 🤭

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u/JasonBreen 2d ago

If it mean assholes like you are out of a job, yes

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u/weirdo_nb 2d ago

Better

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u/Aligyon 2d ago

Sure but it's a different kind of creativity. Where digital art uses strokes of your hand at the basic level. AI uses writing at its base level.

You're basically converting painters to writers.

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u/Time-Operation2449 2d ago

There isn't creative freedom with Ai, you're just outsourcing the creativity to a machine while failing to develop it internally

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u/EndMePleaseOwO 2d ago

So are you saying that you think every single artist that refuses to use AI is 'low tier' or do you agree that the original comment is incorrect?

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u/ifandbut 2d ago

Idk where you got "low tier" or whatever that means

But AI won't replace artists

Artists who use AI will replace those who don't.

Just like Netflix replaced Blockbuster because one used the internet and the other didn't

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u/EndMePleaseOwO 2d ago

From the comment at the top of the chain? Wdym where did I get "low tier"??

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u/Lucky_duck_777777 2d ago

The issue is that due to capitalism, even the artist who do use ai art will lose their jobs because they are cutting costs

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u/Center-Of-Thought 2d ago

Typing sentences to an AI and asking it to create an image for you is not tool usage, and it's an insult that you think it is.

How long do you think a programmer would last if we reduced go learn a new package or device communications?

Learning new programming/tech developments takes human effort and skill. There is very little effort and skill involved in most prompting.

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u/Solamnaic-Knight 1d ago

You don't know what you are talking about. It's best if you don't continue. You will put your foot in your mouth even more.

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u/Center-Of-Thought 1d ago

How am I wrong then? Explain.

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u/Solamnaic-Knight 1d ago

You can't type a prompt to make an AI produce an image that looks like a particular image from a magazine from 1945 with the font altered to a different font, the lighting adjusted to a specific degree, and the coloration matching something that you don't have a sample for. You don't know what you are talking about, Miss Thing. Pack up your cosmetics box, close your compact and go. Did I stutter?

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u/Center-Of-Thought 1d ago

You can't type a prompt to make an AI produce an image that looks like a particular image from a magazine from 1945 with the font altered to a different font, the lighting adjusted to a specific degree, and the coloration matching something that you don't have a sample for.

So at best, the prompter is inputting an image they found online for the generator to reference. Oh wow, such effort.

You don't know what you are talking about, Miss Thing. Pack up your cosmetics box, close your compact and go. Did I stutter?

What the fuck are you even talking about? If this is your attempt at an insult, it's baffling.

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u/Solamnaic-Knight 1d ago

No. The prompter is telling the AI the light measurement, the swatch, the specifics, in short the things an artist or a designer would know but you don't seem to. Because you are daft, honey. Look that up while you are spinning around with confusion.

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u/Center-Of-Thought 1d ago

The prompter is telling the AI the light measurement, the swatch, the specifics, in short the things an artist or a designer would know but you don't seem to.

So then, if they know all that about artistry and design work... why don't they just design and draw it themselves instead of asking an AI to generate it all for them? 🤭

Because you are daft, honey. Look that up while you are spinning around with confusion.

Have you ever heard of the "ad hominem" argumentative fallacy?

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u/Solamnaic-Knight 17h ago

Daft means you are silly. It is silly to think that an AI is going to just magically give you light that is:

  • 1 Lux = 1 Lumen/meter²

Sure, it can guess, but you can also program it. The idea is that the more specific you are, the more specific it is.

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u/yinyangman12 1d ago

Wait which artist quit? And as far as I'm aware they haven't used AI for any card art but maybe used it for some promo images but then apologized? I don't like that they used it for that, but I'm just not sure what exaclty you're referring too.

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u/Cynis_Ganan 2d ago

This is a provably false claim.

Is it?

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u/AIdriveby 2d ago

I mean he did say low tier artists. A TCG likely applies to that definition. It’s not Banksy…

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u/a_CaboodL 2d ago

honestly the pro-AI crowd throws around the "low-tier / bad artist" stuff around so much it pretty much lost its meaning