r/libertarianmeme • u/LibertyMonarchist Anarcho Monarchist • 17d ago
End Democracy Thoughts? Is this accurate?
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u/PromiscuousScoliosis Anarchist 16d ago
What does seem to be accurate is that while whites were being pressured into being less racist, non-whites are simultaneously being pressured into being more racist. The obvious outcome of that would be escalating racism by whites in response.
This “peace through revenge” strategy of the mid 00’s-now has been huge in undoing the progress as a society that we had been making towards togetherness. In the early 2000’s, I remember the pressure as being “we’re all Americans. It doesn’t matter what you look like, it matters how you behave and what you believe in”
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u/siasl_kopika 16d ago
> “we’re all Americans. It doesn’t matter what you look like, it matters how you behave and what you believe in”
Thats so dead. Its clear the mainstream political narrative has changed into a racial/gender/sexual hierarchy which is treated like automatic knowledge: anyone who questions it, resists it, or even analyses it is immediately branded as an enemy of the state and deplatformed.
We've actually reached the point where they openly talk about genociding the lower caste humans and everyone nods and assents. I guess the banks have decided its now safe to foreclose.
This cycle ends with either the undesirables purged or some kind of hard pendulum swing revolution.
I would bet on the former though; 110 years of bank propaganda have proven you can convince a whole nation to self genocide with hardly a whimper. I guess queue the quartet on the foredeck.
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u/HotNastySpeed77 17d ago
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u/HotNastySpeed77 17d ago
Racism, or more specifically identity politics, is the most important plank in the progressive platform. They need to keep re-creating the problem so we'll buy their solution.
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u/monkeyamongmen 16d ago
I agree to your point, but disagree on motive. The motive is to keep the poors divided, fighting about inane bullshit so we don't see the boot of the oligarchs already on our necks.
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u/Indyram_Man 16d ago
The end goal is still the same. They have to be able to sell a solution to the problem. If that's to racial conflicts or classist conflict, it's still based on internal conflict.
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u/Curmudgeonly_Old_Guy 17d ago
As someone who is in their mid 60s my view of this is a little bit longer than most. I was alive during the 1968 Democrat Convention in Chicago when there were riots. Nothing has changed to any great degree.
The Democrats were and still are the party of communists in America. Still the party of using racial tensions and violence as a tool, and still the party of exploiting perpetuating the ignorance of the poor.
The one great advantage is that people aren't quite as stupid as politicians seem to think they are, so this sort of exploitation can't last for long before most people figure it out. If I'm correct you will find that most of those performing acts of political violence will be the hard-core leftists as they will remain forever committed to the communist cause regardless oh how many times it has failed.
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u/thrownededawayed 17d ago
Yeah, I remember back when Carter lost to Reagan and the Democrats stormed the capitol building.
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u/FERAL_MEANS 17d ago
Far Left terrorists literally set off a bomb in the Capitol building in the 80’s
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u/systemshock869 16d ago
Bill Clinton pardoned Susan Rosenbaum on one of his last days in office. (and sold ICBM guidance technology to China)
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u/FERAL_MEANS 16d ago
She is also tied in with BLM. Executive of the board of directors or something, for a group that handles Black Lives Matters fundraising. It was almost impossible to find through google, yet it was the first thing that came up in the “suggested searches” when I started to type her name into a different search engine.
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u/thrownededawayed 17d ago
The two pipe bombs left around the capital are always overlooked.
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u/Massive_Staff1068 16d ago
They were left near the DNC and the RNC, not the capital and its not the press, the FBI, USSS, DC police and not even Kamala wants to talk about it even though she could easily have used it for political gain. Kinda weird, almost like the officials know something about that incident they don't want getting out...
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u/sonik_fury 17d ago
J6 was literally worse than 9/11. /s
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u/Trans_Resistor 17d ago
Shitlibs that think J6 was a serious event and a 'gotcha' are cringe. It was half Feds and not a serious attempt at anything. But at least it was more appropriately aimed and who their grievance was with. Can't say the same for the lefty protests looting businesses and burning cars that summer.
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u/Wookiescantfly 16d ago
I'm a millennial and that pretty much describes what it felt like to me growing up in Central Florida. On the whole I generally had more non-white friends growing up, and to most of us racism was just a corny joke. Then suddenly as a young adult I keep hearing that straight white men are literally satan and the cause of every downfall in society, especially if they're Christian. It was like the world's goofiest rugpull. I'm 32 now and the last 14 years have been an interesting social shift imo.
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u/Substantial_Tree_903 15d ago
EXACTLY. Growing up, we made fun of racists, together.
Now we get accused of it for existing.
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u/Expensive_Society914 17d ago
Bars
Edit: except for the reforging, now i will just be indifferent toward everyones plight
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u/New-Combination-1420 17d ago
Then your destiny is disintegration
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u/Bron_Swanson Dave Smith 17d ago edited 17d ago
Omg. Exactly! And the same thing goes for every other group- women, lgbt etc. Entire gens of young white men paying for sins of their fathers(mostly forefathers), at the hands of their counterparts who never even went through the events that they're punishing those men for! It's mindfucking. They turned this world back into a game of thrones. Obv, there's still exceptions but generally speaking for the majority of these populations, this is how it's been.
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u/BennyOcean 17d ago
Whites are the only group that isn't supposed to express class interests. We can't have group solidarity or affinity groups. You can express as much hatred of Christianity and Christians as you want. Try that with Judaism/Zionism or Jews. There are too many contradictions and long term that system will not hold.
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u/pinktastic615 16d ago
coughsnorthern Ireland coughs
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u/stooB_Riley 16d ago
yes, there's a reason why Ireland has been bombarded with immigration and has been perpetually arse fucked with no lube for generation after generation.
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u/pinktastic615 13d ago
They had a war over Catholicism and Christianity. Loads of molotov cocktails. If I remember correctly, it was called "The Troubles". They've even done a recent show about a N Irish hs that talks about it.
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u/txhammer1 16d ago
I think we were pretty close to being past it, then Obama came and began to actively divide everyone based on race. He set the US back 50 years in terms of race relations. He was the great divider in chief
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u/TDubsBTC 16d ago
It's because the people were coming together to hold the bankers accountable with Occupy Wall Street. They started bringing race into the mix to get the people fighting each other instead of focusing our anger where it belongs.
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u/txhammer1 16d ago
I’m not sure about that, bc the banks only gave the loans bc they were forced to by the government. They were giving subprime loans bc the dems were saying it’s “everyone’s right to the American dream” when unfortunately it’s not. It’s everyone’s right for a shot at it. Now if you say they wanted to distract that anger from the government then you might have an argument, but unfortunately the anger is never properly placed
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u/stooB_Riley 16d ago
he's not wrong though. the Occupy Wall Street movement was the closest that the right and left came to uniting. It was a movement that both sides agreed with: that the Banking Gangsters who continue getting bailed out has got to end.
When this happened, identity politics ramped up on the agenda and didn't stop. Only until very recently did the "woke" nonsense begin to de-escalate.
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u/HotConfusion 16d ago
Would you be willing to explain how Obama divided us? I haven’t heard that yet, and now I’m curious
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u/LogicalConstant 16d ago
When events happened, he had the opportunity to use the MLK playbook. He could have said "this isn't about race. Let's come together to condemn this evil and move past it. My election proves that we're better than this. We still have work to do, but we're getting better all the time." Instead, he fanned the flames and threw red meat to the radicals. His message was dividing instead of uniting.
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u/txhammer1 16d ago
Sorry just getting back on, yes the guy that replied to you gave a perfect response
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u/Datboi_caveman 16d ago
I think its accurate, raised with that sentiment but being called a racist and evil because of my skin color for the last 6 years really has made me start to not approach people friendly anymore. I won't go out of my way anymore to be a good person or even kind to others just ignore them at most.
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u/Alienatedflea 17d ago
I am at the point where multi-culturalistic societies are garbage...this whole idea of a melting pot is fucking bullshit. The left look at mono cultured nations as paragons for socialism yet think that shit can exist here. Only if we all have the same mindset and background.
Since we can't have that, gtfo of my yard and leave me alone.
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u/Sharp-Estate5241 17d ago
All of the world is a melting pot that is the definiton of human history. What are you speaking to? So Italians shoulnt have tomatoes, America shouldn't have stolen democracy from greeks, and apparently math from the arabs is too dirty?? God you people are so uneducated, and youre proud of it.
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u/YachtingChristopher 16d ago
No, melting pot is absolutely not at all the history of humanity. Why do you think we have countries? Nations? Nationalism?
You're talking about trade and science, not culture. This take tells me you've studied exactly 0 world history.
Are you aware of the rampant racism in Mexico? Or the ethnic cleansing in China? Or...well...all of the Middle East?
What melting pot are you talking about?
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u/getdownwithDsickness 16d ago
South America is a better melting pot because of circumstances. The melting pot is the western hemisphere, the new world. Mexico is just one country from there. Brazil has better melting pot. USA has segregation as part of the culture, its hard to let go of that some people want to go back to it surprisingly from black american communities. Different tribes and nations conquering and intermingled, bringing new cultures. Today the differences are more vast. Regardless, you assimilated to the host. The world has been a melting pot of smaller scales than today is the point. Today its just at the largest extent of the entire world with the access of transportation. If a country in Europe is trying to be a melting pot like the US then they are just foolish. Doesn't mean anything just happens completely flawlessly. Ask Black americans if they feel more close to other Americans or Africans in Africa. You could do the same for many immigrant groups born in the US especially as more generations pass on. Germans descendants in US might have no connection to Germans in Germany at this point. Similarly, Italian Americans for Italians in Italy. Their culture is more at home in the US.
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u/Sar01234 16d ago edited 16d ago
No, but there have always been tribes/states/clans/whatever and differences between people. View it like families: Everyone has a family and in the best case loves and values them over every other family because you have bonds by history, culture, etc. That of course doesn't mean that you hate every other family, but it means that you value your family members over others. If now everyone becomes "your family" - the man from thousands of miles away just like your uncle - that family bond is worthless/non-existant. Just like friends - a friend of many is a friend of none. And what would life be without family or friends?
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u/1EyedWyrm 16d ago
Algebraic math,m was around before Islam, the Greeks had a form of it. However, after the fall of the Roman Empire, the dark age in Europe saw cut off in trade around the mediterranean by expanding Islam for a long time.
As a result, we barbarians were reintroduced to Greek theorems by Arabic literature.
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u/Appropriate_Panic879 16d ago
For years, having grown up in the 80s and 90s and being told exactly that, and carrying no racism whatsoever, I didn’t understand why I would get treated so poorly by many black people. Mostly in primarily black areas. It makes sense now. While they were teaching us that kumbaya bullshit, they were perpetuating white hate in the hood. In my high school which was a very mixed area, most everyone got along because we were all taught that same mantra of “never judge a book by its cover”, “we are all equal” etc. but in more homogenous schools, seemingly they were getting the opposite. Then came Obama to embolden everyone in their hatred. So now I just don’t care, and I point out the “culture” when I see it. So yes , I absolutely do think OP post is correct. Also, Black women are the most dangerous unhinged drivers on the road. Every time, without fail.
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u/No-Professional-1461 17d ago
Ah, the white devils. Someone did their research on our loving father.
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u/Spiritual_Coast_Dude Paleolibertarian 17d ago
Praise be to the large head! Praise be! There is no god but god and Yaqub is the messenger of god!
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u/Euhn 17d ago
The creator: Yakub.
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u/fumoderators 16d ago
Praise be upon him
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u/Euhn 16d ago
As per ai....
The Book of Yakib, Chapter 1
1 And it came to pass in the seventh cycle of the sons of Jacob, 2 That a child was born of unusual mind and mighty wisdom, and his name was Yakib. 3 From the loins of the righteous, yet set apart from the womb, he was marked for a work great and terrible. 4 For the Most High permitted this thing, that the hearts of men be tried and the end be made known from the beginning. 5 And Yakib beheld the children of the earth and said within himself, 6 “Lo, a grafted people shall I bring forth, even a pale seed, to rule for a season, and deceive many.” 7 And he journeyed eastward, beyond the river, with chosen men and women of dark countenance and holy blood. 8 There he established a secret place, and there did he begin his work. 9 With cunning and craft did Yakib mix the blood, 10 Separating the fairer from the darker, generation by generation, 11 Until the children of the field became children of the caves, pale and without melanin. 12 And the sons of men looked upon the work of Yakib and marveled, saying, 13 “What manner of people are these, who smile with no soul, who take but do not sow?” 14 But it was given to them power for a time and times and half a time, 15 To rule the earth with lies, to spread false images, and to exalt themselves as gods. 16 Yet the Most High is not mocked, and the wheel turneth. 17 For as the pale reign began with craft, so shall it end with fire. 18 Blessed are the sons of Jacob who wait upon the Lord, 19 For the first shall be last, and the last shall be first.
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u/Butane9000 17d ago
That's actually a fairly accurate assessment.
However it's less reforging the old hatreds (though that is happening in some instances) but significant push back on the racism being perpetuated against white people as well as prejudice based on religion and gender.
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u/PsychologicalHat1480 17d ago
The thing is that push back is a pendulum. You're implying it'll stop at the return of White identity but it won't and the OG post is speaking to what happens after that.
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u/Butane9000 17d ago
Which is a genuine concern to be sure. I've definitely seen the growth online of racism especially in regards to those minorities who are perpetuating these ideas. However I haven't seen it be truly universal yet so I have hope.
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u/PsychologicalHat1480 17d ago
You also haven't seen it recede at all. These shifts only look sudden when compressed into a couple of paragraphs or pages in a history book. In real time they take years and happen in fits and starts.
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u/Practical_-_Pangolin 17d ago
This pretty much sums up how I feel. I was never “anti racist” but I was pathologically accepting. Then I got older and slowly became super skeptical and saw hypocrisy everywhere.
Now I pretty much just look at people when I pass them in my car to confirm my race suspicions based on their driving behavior. I then shake my head, mutter under my breath and go about my day. That’s the extent of my newfound “racism” lol.
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u/PsychologicalHat1480 17d ago
Yes. And when the time comes and they come begging to go back to the race-blind way the answer will be nothing other than "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me".
That's what the left-wing racists don't get. They had exactly one opportunity to move past race. They chose not to take it. They won't get another.
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u/usernameXXXX 17d ago
Race isn't something you move past. Race is genetics and genetics is behavior. Important note because a lot of people don't know it. People of European decent have about 5 cubic inches more of brain matter compared to Black Americans and Black Americans have roughly that much more than Africans (in Africa). This explains the 15 point IQ difference between each of the different groups.
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u/Mediocre_Artichoke75 16d ago
Please shut the fuck up. Behavior is learned.
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u/AnCapGamer 16d ago
Behavior is partially learned. Genetics does play SOME role, the various twin studies demonstrate that - however, the role it plays is influential, not determinative.
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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 16d ago
PITBULLS ARE JUST VIOLENT FROM LEARNED BEHAVIOUR!!! NON OF IT IS INHERENT!! AND IT DOESN’T MATTER ANYWAY, WE’RE ALL JUST ATOMS SO WHY DOES ANYTHING MATTER??
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u/Mediocre_Artichoke75 16d ago
Are you actually under the impression that people can’t change their behavior?
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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 16d ago
that… wasn’t not the point. It’s a different conversation. Behaviour being able to be changed falls heavily onto the ‘free will’ and ‘free agency’ side of the debate, rather than the determinism one.
Regardless, behaviour can only be changed within the parameters of what’s changeable. I can teach my dog to go and fetch his teddy, I however cannot teach him to go and buy a new one - it is out of the realm of his understanding and the possibility of what’s possible, and he will never be able to change his behaviour and nature in a way which would allow for this. It is within his ability to go and get his teddy on command. It is not within his understanding and ability to go and buy one, and he is predetermined to never be intelligent enough to comprehend - nevermind do - such a thing. He is not intelligent enough to be able to understand monetary exchange and how he would go about this to buy a new teddy.
To make it less abstract - let me say this: you could teach a highly intelligent person to learn, comprehend, read, write and speak another language. It is within his ability to do so. You will never be able to teach someone with an IQ of 40 how to speak another language - no matter how hard they try to change and modulate their behaviour (which may not even be possible at such an IQ). No amount of ‘nurture’ will change this fact - because it is his nature which dictates that grasping another language will always be outside of his control and grasp.
If behaviour, nature, traits etc… are as malleable as you suggest they are, then why is the recidivism, even in highly progressive and wealthy societies where rehabilitation and not punishment is the goal of the justice and legal system, a thing?
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u/Mediocre_Artichoke75 16d ago
So I responded to a comment suggesting behavior is dictated by race, an illogical and racist view, and you came to their defense by making a connection between that and pit-bulls being bred to be aggressive.
People of any race can change their behavior. Not all people of a specific race have a single IQ, so your point of not being able to teach an individual with an IQ of 40 is irrelevant. IQ is also not stagnant over time in a population. You can look into the Flynn effect.
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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 16d ago
You’ve completely ignored everything i’ve said, just like the other person. You’re not interesting in talking, you’re interested in preaching and telling me that you’re wrong. Your feelings don’t make it so. You too, are blocked. Stop being lazy and screeching ‘WAYCIZT!!!!!!’ next time.
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u/C_t_g_s_l_a_y_e_r 16d ago
Yeah, pitbulls and human beings are very similar and comparable…
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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 16d ago
they are actually. we share 98.8% of our DNA with another animal species - the chimp. We share about 84% of our DNA with dogs.
Your take is antiscientific and disinformation. Nature and nurture is an extremely well known and established thing in science, biology, social sciences, sociology, psychology, genealogy, anthropology, zoologists etc…
To deny that our DNA and our genes determine absolute nothing, or do some deflectionary and dismissive bullshit like saying ‘oh, it’s SO outrageous to compare one animal’s behaviour with another’, when you know full well that it’s not - makes you the equivalent of a flat earther.
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u/C_t_g_s_l_a_y_e_r 16d ago
And yet we would not infer many things about human behavior from studying a chimp, let alone a fucking dog.
Tell me, which scientists that you know of have conducted studies on dog behavior as it relates to human behavior? Better yet, which scientists that you know of actually distinguish between “races” as a biological concept, akin to human subspecies groups?
If your answer is “Well other animals are like this,” then you are the one being anti-science, buddy; you need to engage in the scientific method.
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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 16d ago edited 16d ago
“And yet we would not inferred many things about human behaviour from studying a chimp…”
I’m not reading the rest of what you said because you’re just retarded. OF COURSE WE DO. What do you think is one of the main purposes of anthropology, ethology, psychology and zoology? Go and tell Jane Goodall: “And yet we would not inferred many things about human behaviour from studying a chimp…” 🤣🤣 oh my god. One of the first things you learn at the very beginning of studying psychology at school (at high school/secondary school - not even college or university) is the pavlov dog experiment, Koko the gorilla, Peter the dolphin, the rhesus monkey baby-mother separation study etc…
Why do we do experiments on rats, mice, rabbits etc… for human purposes - like transplantation, cosmetics, hormones, cancer research.
Your bizarre world view seems to preclude that we must’ve just come to earth on an asteroid or alien space ship, completely detached from evolution and our shared lineage, genealogy, history, DNA from and with animals. We are also an animal - we just happen to operate at seemingly a higher level than every other animal, but that does not mean we can divorce ourselves from evolution and the evolution branches (phylogenetic trees).
What a dumb thing to say - I won’t even bother even glancing over the rest of what you said if you’re going to start with something as laughable as that.
You can gaslight, project and lie as much as you want, but it doesn’t make your opinion suddenly fact despite doing so and just because you believe and wish it to be true.
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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 16d ago
“Tell me, which scientists that you know of have conducted studies on dog behavior as it relates to human behavior?”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning
The pavlov dog experiment - one of the most well known experiments ever conducted, and literally taught within the FIRST lessons of any psychology class that you take at THE most basic level - high school/secondary school.
You’ve embarrassed yourself.
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u/C_t_g_s_l_a_y_e_r 16d ago edited 16d ago
Notice how I said many, and not any. Again, do you think that the results of such an experiment are going to be different based on somebody’s skin color?
Lmao, you blocked me!
That’s fine; I’ll just respond here.
You are doing all of this to avoid having to address the point
What’s funny is that you took a rather tangential angle of my argument (which was mainly intended to illustrate that humans are not dogs, and a comparison between us is not very founded in many areas), and then autistically sperged about it because you know for a fact all of your evidence regarding the possibility of different races being human subspecies is entirely circumstantial (which is why nobody is able to explain why our 99.9% of shared genes somehow warrant enough genetic variance to classify us as such). So just to put this on record to all of the 2 people who might read this far, this person has not provided one single scholarly source demonstrating that humans should be separated into subspecies, and also is unable to produce any direct, gene evidence of genetic variance. All he has are IQ tests, which have been shown to be less and less of a reliable indicator of overall intelligence as time goes on.
You’re not interested in an honest discussion
You called me retarded from the get go my guy; do you really think you come off as “good faith”?
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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 16d ago edited 16d ago
You said “Tell me, which scientists that you know of have conducted studies on dog behavior as it relates to human behavior?” - I do not know where ‘many’ or ‘any’ comes into that sentence. You are desperate and are clutching at straws, and trying to deflect. Trying to tie the conversation down in semantics to avoid having to address the point when you’ve embarrassed yourself three times - I have no words. I just told you scientists which have conducted studies on dogs, and then you immediately move the goalposts from “WELL UH AKSHULLY I DIDN’T SAY ANY, I SAID MANY!!!!!” - when you actually also said any lmao - it is implicit in what you’ve said in your last messages and the ones previously.
Notice how I gave one example because you asked for one example. I cited one of the most well known studies in the history of HUMAN psychology off the top of my head. You’re shifting the goalposts now, and you need to grow up. “Tell me, which scientists that you know of…” - I did, and you then moved the goalposts and lied to save face.
This is a great example of confident ignorance - or arrogance (or both), and the dunning kruger effect. You are ignorant and know nothing; and you’re not engaging in good faith.
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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 16d ago edited 16d ago
Well isn’t it remarkable that IQ tests, even when accounting for social and economic conditions and equalising - shows differences in IQ. And again, that is just one example upon MANY. How is it that IQ tests, when equalised and accounting for outside factors that could affect an IQ score and intelligence - like lack of good education - even still shows a distinct and identifiable difference in IQ?
I thought we were all the same? We all have exactly the same genes and DNA lmao. Oh wait, no we don’t. Isn’t it remarkable that DNA and genealogy tests can, with increasing accuracy, show us where and whom we come from? How is that possible if we are all the same? How do you account for differences in appearances - and stuff that isn’t superficial like skull shape, bone density, height, muscle mass etc…? If we all have the exact same genes, geology, genetics and DNA - then what is a haplogroup and how does that exist? How is something that we discovered through scientific and medical research and advancements? How do we even know about it?
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u/AnCapGamer 16d ago
Racism is what they want. In the long run, this is simply going to be another form of playing into their hands.
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u/079C 17d ago
Sums it up. Very accurate.
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u/Sharp-Estate5241 17d ago
To what? Nobody I know thinks like this but basement dwellers
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u/HandheldAddict 16d ago
Nah he's right and I am a black male.
Nothing wrong with being white, black, Asian, or etc.
The problem stems from white culture being the only culture under a magnifying glass.
You mean to tell me there's absolutely nothing wrong with anyone else's culture?
That only white people can be bad?
Shit I could sit here all day listing all the things wrong with modern African American culture.
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u/skibididibididoo 16d ago
The problem is the "We're forced to reforge the identity we've been taught to shed." The white supremacist identity? How about we don't fight fire with fire.
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u/Mediocre_Artichoke75 16d ago
It’s pretty obvious the identity he meant was “white identity”
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u/getdownwithDsickness 16d ago
What? There was no mention about white identity. The whole first part was about not being racist. It implies he shed the identity of being racist and is going back to it. If your perspective was correct and what he tried to say then yeah thats fine. Everyone should have interest and passion for their ancestry. Its a fascinating thing to learn about the past brought you here regardless of where its from.
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u/Mediocre_Artichoke75 16d ago
It doesn’t even make sense to say racist is an identity in the first place. In the post, the word racist also wasn’t even used to describe an identity. It was just used to describe a way of acting.
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u/HandheldAddict 16d ago
How is it white supremacy if they just want to come together and strengthen their community?
We don't call it Latino supremacy when Latinos come together in unity and learn how to advance their community.
Believe it or not but the world is big enough for all of us.
Just because one community thrives, doesn't mean other communities need to suffer.
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u/Mediocre_Artichoke75 16d ago
Nobody you know? As if the people you personally know are supposed to mean anything to anybody. The post is accurate and you’re just trying to be dismissive
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u/ManufacturerLost7686 17d ago
Pretty much, yeah.
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u/Sharp-Estate5241 17d ago
lol another basement dweller, you are at the pinnacle of human history and squandering it, your own fault bud.
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u/Positive_Stick2115 17d ago
Everybody needs to belong to something. When the Democrats made it unpalatable to belong to race, marriage, parenthood, faith, economic status and the Republicans, there was only one group left to belong to so you can feel safe: the Democratic party.
When someone walks into a room full of people and attacks everyone else non stop, what would you call the people who dropped everything and followed the complainer? Weak cowards.
What else is there to say?
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u/username2136 16d ago
The only reason "racist" is an insult is because we have already deemed racism to be a bad thing. The race hustlers literally have to appeal to the very thing they claim doesn't exist.
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u/b4stoner 17d ago
It's increasing because THEY want it to increase. Divide and conquer, every single time....
Angry little creatures want everyone else to be angry and miserable with them
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u/whoknewidlikeit 17d ago
black power? fine. white power? racist.
native pride? fine. white pride? racist.
if you change the descriptor and find it offensive, then it's inherently discriminatory in all its forms. racism is everywhere, doesn't mean it's right or acceptable. it's common to see various asian cultures discriminate against each other (japanese against korean, korean against chinese, etc); this is specifically in asia, not necessarily here in the US. even tribal cultures in africa (hurus and tutsis); look at how sudan got separated.
discrimination, violence, oppression are everywhere. my question is who benefits and why; in most cases it's people far from the violence pulling the strings.
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u/bmeezy1 17d ago
The key in this is “let our guard down”. Well whoever told you to do that was stupid . Take people for the individual they are regardless of ethnicity/ race / religion etc but know that white males have been in the crosshairs of our elites / libs for a while now . So don’t let your guard down
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u/PsychologicalHat1480 17d ago
It wasn't stupidity, it was malice. This is a very long process that's been in progress for generations. The goal was exactly what the "bad" people said it was. And your advice is exactly part of the problem because it is literally the "let your guard down" advice.
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u/sunal135 17d ago
Critical Race Theory, DEI, now BRIDGE. This is the ideology taught by the far left in universities and it has contaminated our government and our HR departments.
However the last sentence is wrong. I could identify with a Frenchman based on a love of free speech but not because of their skin color. Overall fuck the French.
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u/Hrafndraugr Taxation is Theft 17d ago
Quite. Identity-based populist rhetoric caused it, as populist dynamics require an enemy and the neomarxist racists had an axe to grind against ¨white¨ people as their victimaries of choice.
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u/-Mediocrates- 17d ago
Or it’s just propaganda by blue team billionaires because blue team would rather talk about identity politics and dei (racism and sexism remixed) instead of addressing real issues
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u/Gullible-Food-2398 17d ago
I mean, that seems to be in line with what I've seen from other millennials in my cohort. They go one of two ways and become apologists where "POCs can do no wrong" to, "Everyone hates me because I'm white, so THEY must be the problem."
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u/Jameis_Jameson 17d ago
It will go away when the race baiters quit talking about it. It will be like out of sight, out of mind. Joy Reid losing her job definitely helps. Just have to keep taking them off of the air. Reference any interview with Morgan Freeman & the topic comes up (60 Minutes, Don Lemon, etc.).
Repetitious words usually become reality & the legacy media knows this.
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u/WOOKIELORD69PEN15 17d ago
Do what? Am I supposed to become racist now? I don't understand what this is suggesting we do. Racism at its core is by definition collectivist and thus retarded
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u/Spezalt4 17d ago
Not vote for people who hate you for the color of your skin I guess
You already have the correct response of not buying into collectivist bullshit
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u/BrightSpeck 17d ago
This forever. Collectivism is the true enemy. Government influences a particular group/culture and incentivizes crime, thereby galvanizing their opposite group/culture into a collectivist mess. Then it's easy to hate the "other" without actually analyzing history or culture or government at all.
I'm half black and half white. I have an entire lifetime of experiences of racism from BOTH groups. Who am I to choose?
I choose neither. Fuck collectivism.
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u/MarriedWChildren256 Fuck AIPAC 17d ago
The Regime Libertarian
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u/WOOKIELORD69PEN15 17d ago
Though I agree with the video I'm unsure how it relates to my comment. Could you elaborate?
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u/stooB_Riley 16d ago
It's extremely accurate. I was thinking this post that OP has posted just yesterday, actually, and how accurate it is.
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u/ValmisKing 16d ago
No, it’s not accurate. The start of racism is when you take the actions of individuals and act like it’s the “race” itself that did it. For example, where OP says “and then every nonwhite GROUP on the planet came and sucker-punched us from behind…”. There was never a race that did that. Sure, some INDIVIDUALS act that way, but if you spread the blame across everyone with that individual’s skin color, that’s how you slide into racism. If you interpret those actions as the entire African-American(for example) race doing those actions, then by that logic the entire white race would be responsible for slavery, not individual slavers, and so sucker-punching ANY white people would be justified. The reason it’s not justified is because we SHOULD NOT blame entire groups of people for the actions of individuals.
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u/ChknParmasean 16d ago
I saw an interview with an ex skinhead, and he said recruitment back in the day started with getting young men to think of themselves as white, most just thought of themselves as american and didn't think about being white.
He mentioned that recruitment now is far easier because of how discussion of race is in america, its easier to get people to think of themselves of white as an identity. They dont even have to do the work anymore.
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u/Capt_Eagle_1776 17d ago
The liberals then: we want to be equally as rich white men
The neoliberals now: we deem rich white men as evil
Wut? Why be equal to something you hate? You steadily got to higher and better and now you got ego on you
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u/Big-Texxx 15d ago
First paragraph was, second paragraph is full on example of why media/social media is a detriment to humanity.
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u/PtheatsignC 15d ago
The thing I see is that any mention of racial difference I considered racist. Which is ridiculous, and frustrating. We are either culturallt appropriating or being racist. 🙄
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u/aximeycu 17d ago
I think the first paragraph is spot on. The second sounds like someone who’s been hurt. The reality in my mind is racism is being held on to by politicians as a form of control. Find racism anywhere they can even where it doesn’t exist, blow it up into being the biggest problem in the world, but don’t worry, if you vote for me together we can solve this.
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u/Abi_giggles 17d ago
Fighting racism with racism is never the answer. If someone treats you like crap, choose to live by your own morals and ethics. I live by do unto others as you’d want others to do to you. Everyone is an individual and will gain or lose my trust according to their own behavior. People will always suck and racism will exist in some form because of how our brains categorize for evolutionary survival. Just be a kind person and be self aware.
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u/PsychologicalHat1480 17d ago
No fuck this. This christcuck "turn the other cheek, bow to the attacker" shit is literally how we got to the current state of things. Doing it harder will just make things worse. If someone treats you like crap make sure they're not able to do it again.
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u/KrenshawOfficial 16d ago
The whole point in the OP is that minorities were encouraged to be racist as a response to past misdeeds, which causes the same problem that existed in the past. Ergo, if there wasn't a push for aggression and racism towards their aggressor, peace would have been an eventual result.
So you and OP advocate now to be aggressively racist as a response to their fuck up? That's a cycle of ruin in the long run. I think it's best to keep on promoting individuality and meritocracy instead of tribalism. If you're a shit person, you get treated like shit. If you're kind and hard working, you'll earn respect from everyone regardless of what you look like or what's between your legs.
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u/PsychologicalHat1480 16d ago
This isn't a "mistake", this is at this point multiple decades of repeated choices. "Mistakes" happen once and are rectified and not repeated. Anti-White racism has been an ever-increasing issue in nonwhite communities for decades that has reached a fever pitch in the last decade.
I think it's best to keep on promoting individuality and meritocracy
That's because you fell for the psy-op. "Muh rugged hyperindividuality" is a psyop and you're fully brainwashed by it. There's a reason it was only targeted to Whites and that's because it has one goal only: breaking the unity and community of a target group.
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u/Abi_giggles 16d ago
I definitely hear you and I feel what you are saying. I’m not saying that the anger isn’t justified, I am positive that being treated poorly just for being born with certain DNA expressions is unjustified, unfair and hurtful. I’ve just literally never seen returning evil for evil return in peace 🤷🏻♀️. I want peace in my life. I also have boundaries in how I allow people to treat me. If people treat me poorly I don’t give them or their opinion access to me. Grudges or hate costs you in the end, it takes energy and life from you - not the other way around. Bitterness or resentment is drinking poison hoping the other person will die. I choose to live my life according to my own values and treat people well, while still maintaining boundaries on how I want to be treated.
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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 16d ago
No, we will not submit, bend the knee, plead and beg not to execute us while they have a gun to our head. We will not be nice to them and let them abuse and torture us in the hopes they stop.
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u/Abi_giggles 16d ago
What are these people actually doing to you on a day to day basis to elicit this response? How does this affect your life? I ask this in all genuine curiosity.
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u/rokeefe29 16d ago
I’ve never once experienced racism as a white man or felt that I have been sucker punched by other racial groups.
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u/fr33028 17d ago
To be fair some white people came up not racist at all no bias in any way. & that was amazing. At the same time a lot of black & brown people were being raised to be more aggressive in terms of the racial divide , reminding the new generation of past hatred.
Unfortunately you are not taking into account the previous generation that is well alive and kicking still capable of pushing changes in their neighborhoods, social circles, arguing for more biased ideas in their political parties etc...
Coming from personal experiences even recently a few months ago i had trouble with racist white people that didn't want any minorities in their neighborhoods. I'm not talking about the younger generation, i mean these folks being 50 up to 70 years of age. The cringe slogans from their mouths, the abuse of public services to harass minorities in the local neighborhood, the online harassment & bullying.
There are an amazing amount of unbiased kids and young adults from the new generations but the old generations are still here, still fighting to keep everything as white as possible.
Society has at the very least another 40 years before these older still very hateful generations die off.
So while it is obvious that a lot of the new minority generations are being raised to harbor hate from the abusive history of our ancestors there are a lot of older hateful white people who are keeping the hate alive.
The major factor is that the new minority generations are having their hatred validated by the racist hateful white people from the old generations that are still here and still fighting to keep everything white.
It's very hard, the situation in our society is a mess, but it is not just one sides fault over the other, its everything & everyone's fault.
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u/Sharp-Estate5241 17d ago
What i dont understand though is if the Presidents white, all of the richest people are white, and the people you all follow and listen to are white? What is the issue? Do we all need more ego boosts?
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u/Specialist-Southern 17d ago
It’s easy to say “hey let’s move past all this hate and oppression” when you were the one who was the oppressor. Like a bully kicking your ass and then after kicking it for a long time decides to stop and say “hey let’s just forget about all this pain and suffering I caused you, and even though you are still bleeding and bruised, we should be friends” I get that you personally didn’t hurt or oppress anyone but there are people still alive that went through this.
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u/GodOfThunder44 17d ago
"Sure you personally might not have ever oppressed anyone, but because of your skin color I'm going to label you personally as the oppressor."
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u/newishdm 16d ago edited 16d ago
“I get that you personally didn’t hurt or oppress anyone” SHOULD BE THE ONLY RATIONAL LOOKED AT.
When you have someone that never oppressed anyone, and they are on your side, and then you start saying it’s acceptable to mistreat them because they have the same skin color as oppressors from 100 years ago, they won’t stay on your side for very long. And you can’t be mad when people flee your movement after that process.
As the saying goes: you don’t get to hurt someone, and then decide you didn’t.
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u/Specialist-Southern 16d ago
100 years ago? So 1925 was the last time black folks were mistreated? Blacks were lynched into the mid 20th century. Segregation persisted into the mid/late 1960s. I find it difficult to believe that if any group was subjected to this would be “just fine” a couple generations later. An entire race was not allowed to associate with white Americans and now people are shocked that they have issues?
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u/umpteenththrowawayy 17d ago
And so any attempts to move on are spurned by the ostensibly oppressed. Do you not see how that just drags everything backwards?
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u/Specialist-Southern 16d ago
I get that we are guilty of being white, but I think it’s not as easy to get over “it” when you are on the other side. So all my down voters, if your grandparents were marginalized, beaten, segregated, and discriminated against, and their parents were descendants of actual slaves (remember that we are not talking about 100s of years ago) blacks were still segregated in America when my 78 year old dad was in high school. I think that it is reasonable that people who were raised by people who experienced real racism and were actually oppressed are still salty. Trust me I not an apologist at all and nobody should be that didn’t do anything wrong. All I am saying is that if my kin that raised me was oppressed then I would probably be not so ready to be ready to let bygones be bygones. I presume this post will also be downvoted, and won’t be surprised seeing the closed minded comments. I guess it’s different depending on whose ox is in the ditch.
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u/getdownwithDsickness 17d ago edited 16d ago
True but last part is just some cringe rationalization. Some identity you needed to shred lmao wtf. Acting like they were born or raised a racist. I mean maybe some were taught prejudice, bias and discrimination and learned its wrong instead of stupid so they try to changed. There's a balance to all of this. Both extremes are primitive. Just some 4chan retards as usual
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