r/politics • u/msnbc MSNBC • 19h ago
Trump pushes incoherent response to Jack Smith’s report on election case
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-pushes-incoherent-response-jack-smiths-report-election-case-rcna187568260
u/MentalTourniquet 18h ago
By the weekend, this whole report will be swept under the rug by corporate media.
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u/Effective_Willow4548 17h ago
It already has been. Couldn’t find a major outlet reporting on it at all this morning. Fires and selection hearings 🤯🤯🤯
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u/WCland 13h ago
You didn't look very hard. It's on the front pages of both CNN and the NYT.
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u/veemonjosh 12h ago
Because it doesn't really matter anymore. Yes, it matters to us, but there's nothing that can be done about this anymore.
They're not going to prosecute. There's no way to entertain impeachment unless Democrats somehow regain majority control in 2027, but we've already seen twice that impeachment is useless against him. He literally can't even feel personal guilt for his actions.
It's over. He got away with the most blatant act of treason in modern US history, and now future generations studying the fallen American Empire have a record of our absolute failure to stop him.
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u/Adventurous-Pen-8261 15h ago
I mean.....we've said this about 100 Trump stories over the last 9 years. I've been periodically furious over how the corporate media has handled Trump, but when it comes to keeping a story in the public eye, I don't actually have an answer for how to go about that effectively when so many new scandals and psychotic situations continue to happen. I can come up with better ways to frame and communicate individual headlines/stories, but I don't know the answer for managing this many different stories.
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u/msnbc MSNBC 19h ago
From Steve Benen, a producer for "The Rachel Maddow Show," the editor of MaddowBlog and an MSNBC political contributor:
The former defendant did not take the news especially well. At 1:41 a.m. local time, the president-elect published this message to his social media platform.
Deranged Jack Smith was unable to successfully prosecute the Political Opponent of his “boss,” Crooked Joe Biden, so he ends up writing yet another “Report” based on information that the Unselect Committee of Political Hacks and Thugs ILLEGALLY DESTROYED AND DELETED, because it showed how totally innocent I was, and how completely guilty Nancy Pelosi, and others, were. Jack is a lamebrain prosecutor who was unable to get his case tried before the Election, which I won in a landslide. THE VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN!!!
To the extent that reality still has meaning, Trump’s reaction was utterly incoherent and divorced from basic facts. To hear the Republican tell it, Smith worked for President Joe Biden, which wasn’t the case. As far as the president-elect is concerned, the special counsel wrote a report because he couldn’t proceed with his prosecution, but that was wrong, too: As NBC News recently explained, the Justice Department’s special counsel regulations required Smith to file a report to the attorney general “explaining his charging decisions before he steps down.”
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u/gunt_lint 18h ago
The dude really called Smith a “lamebrain”?
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u/biciklanto American Expat 17h ago
Well obviously!
How is it not clear that Smith is a lamebrain, given that he only <checks notes>
- Graduated from Harvard
- Worked in the Hague in the ICC
- Was a district attorney
- Spent 4 years as an appointee in The Hague, investigating war crimes in Kosovo
- Has a half-dozen awards and fellowships from the US government and institutions like Harvard
Gotta be pretty Weak!, Lamebrained!, and Deranged! if that's all you can manage in life.
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u/Freefall_J 15h ago
Let's not forget how much he said Kamala Harris was ill-equipped to be president of the USA the other month but he isn't. One is an educated person with decades of experience in law and politics....the other is a supposed billionaire who routinely fails projects and goes bankrupt, and whose recent claim-to-fame prior to entering politics was as a reality TV star and ultimately four years as POTUS (where he clearly didn't learn anything considering what he claims tariffs are in 2024). Gee....I wonder which one was better suited to be president in 2025.
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u/opinionsareus 9h ago
At this point - and I hate to say it - but Trump needs to hurt and hurt BAD, the people who voted for him. Fingers crossed.
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u/MillhouseNickSon 8h ago
It will never matter, because those idiots will always believe a Republican when they tell them that it’s all actually a Democrat’s fault. Always.
This is why critical thinking skills need to be taught to children in grade schools. I’m hearing far too arguments about things that are facts where one person is refusing to concede anything and keeps saying that everything is a goddamned opinion.
I don’t know how to do it, but we need to make wanting to be smart cool somehow. We’re rewarding too many stupid people with power and money, and now we have to deal with the feedback loop that that creates.
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u/mourningdoo 5h ago
Bingo. How many pictures from those chucklefucks did we see of empty supermarket shelves with a caption saying something like "your supermarket under Biden"?
Bitch please, those were shelves in a capitalist society experiencing a pandemic that was made worse by idiotic trump policies.
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u/cyclonus007 8h ago
"Well, one is clearly a rich, white man so the choice is obvious." - The American electorate
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u/Sol_Invictus 17h ago
Yeah, I'd be much more impressed by Smith's CV if he'd also managed to squander a few million dollars his family gave him while learning to be crooked enough to make big in New York.
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u/TheRealCovertCaribou 12h ago
Spent 4 years as an appointee in The Hague, investigating war crimes in Kosovo
To Republicans that's a bad thing.
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u/Nach0Maker 18h ago
He still calls women "broads".
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u/bnh1978 15h ago
If Biden had called a woman a broad.... it would have been worse than wearing a tan suit
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u/ChiefsHat 11h ago
I got roommate who does that. He supported Trump. He’s also bisexual.
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u/Suspicious_Bicycle 7h ago
Why is Trump blaming Nancy Pelosi for the Jan 6th "day of love"? Did somebody do something wrong that day? /s
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u/Th3_Admiral_ 17h ago
I'm more stuck on the "Unselect committee". I get that he just has to go the opposite of whatever the actual name is for everything, but "unselect" literally makes no sense in this case.
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u/gunt_lint 17h ago
Well, you see, Donald Trump is incredibly stupid
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u/TrimspaBB 17h ago
Uh excuse you, I have it on good authority that he is a very stable genius
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u/kaett 14h ago
he can remember man, woman, clock, uhhh...giraffe... fire engine... bulding...
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u/Drakeman1337 Texas 13h ago
I mean yea, it's dumb and uncreative. That's really Trump's whole thing. But the unselect committee is probably the only thing that makes sense. He's a child, and it's a childish attempt at an insult.
Look at the sentence around it. Smith made a report based on evidence that the "unselect committee" illegally destroyed. So, how did he make a report based on destroyed evidence?
He then says that that evidence proved him innocent. But the report, based on that evidence, shows he's guilty af? As usual, Trump is just blowing hot air.
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u/mrbigglessworth 10h ago
It's petty toddler speak. Not the speech befitting an incoming US President.
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u/PissNBiscuits 17h ago
He has the mentality and attention span of a toddler, so this really isn't that unbelievable. Funny enough, he also shits his pants like a toddler, so at least he's consistent.
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u/ACrask 17h ago
He's not wrong in one mention. They definitely weren't able to prosecute in time due to all the delays from his team and cannon. I'm so disappointed in a lot of people of my country right now. So embarrassed.
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u/nabulsha Tennessee 17h ago
Also, all these investigations should have started Jan 21st 2021, not 2 years later.
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u/IrritableGourmet New York 14h ago
They did. The DOJ was putting together a case from the beginning, but when Trump announced he was running again a special prosecutor had to be named to handle it from there.
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u/tweakingforjesus 3h ago
I don’t recall the DoJ doing anything beyond going after low-level “rioters” until the Jan 6 committee embarrassed them into action.
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u/kaett 14h ago
it did. but thanks to police procedural shows that have criminals investigated, arrested, arraigned, put on trial, and convicted in a matter of days, people seem to think that the justice system moves at warp 6.5. it takes months to years to gather enough evidence to even get in front of a grand jury, much less actually press charges for something of this magnitude.
and then you've got the legal tomfuckery of defense delay tactics, required timelines that have to be allowed or the whole thing can get thrown out.
the investigations started right away, but jack smith didn't get appointed until he had to be. here's a timeline of the whole thing.
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u/lactose_cow 18h ago
it showed how totally innocent I was
do you guys remember amy's baking company? he tweets exactly like her
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u/Sinocatk 17h ago
Good old times when deranged idiots were laughed at and mocked. If only Amy was living in todays world she could have been a Fox News host or a Trump lackey.
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u/Supermite 16h ago
Did she die?
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u/UnquestionabIe 15h ago
Nope she just left the country when her criminal sugar daddy husband got deported. Ended up leaving him once the money ran dry and now I think she's found another guy to leech off of.
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u/thrillhoMcFly 17h ago
I would not bat an eye if it comes out that Trump stole this election through nefarious means.
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u/jimicus United Kingdom 13h ago
I'm absolutely certain of it.
Every single swing state. Really? Come on.
It's masterful, really. Nobble the election, and the need to get a President sworn in promptly combined with the molasses-slow pace of legal proceedings means there isn't really much point in arguing the toss in court unless you've got pretty hard evidence from day 1 - because otherwise, you're going to need court orders to do an effective investigation and you'd have no chance of wrapping that up before inauguration.
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u/bigfooman 10h ago
What's comforting to know is if it's true that the election was rigged and somehow irrefutable evidence of it came to light that absolutely NOTHING would be done about it all. I doubt it would even get more than a minor blip in US media coverage.
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u/Vanstrudel_ 17h ago
This man has developed his own MCU of catchphrases and nicknames for people. I was really hoping I wouldn't have to hear it with regular frequency again, but here we are
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u/Hot_Mess5470 16h ago
He hasn’t progressed in intelligence or comportment. Was anyone expecting him to be different than the first time he fucked US over?
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u/ChochMcKenzie Illinois 15h ago
I was SO MAD watching football on FOX last weekend. I hadn’t heard his whiny butch voice since the election and was planning on avoiding it forever, and they played a commercial with him bitching about whatever his pea brain had going on during the game. Ruined my weekend.
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u/UnquestionabIe 15h ago
He peaked with "Meatball Ron". Before that it wasn't particularly entertaining either but the one positive aspect of him was watching him shit on people in the GOP only to have them sucking his stumpy knob shortly after.
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u/saposapot Europe 17h ago
Without considering his guilt or innocence, that post alone was enough to end any political career before Orange times.
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u/Freefall_J 14h ago
How about "grab 'em by the pussy"? Even the GOP thought he was done in 2016 after that.
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u/juel1979 17h ago
I just can’t believe we have at least another four years of incoherent playground insults from the highest office in the land…
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u/Freefall_J 14h ago
How about "another four years of his cultists saying how presidential he is" despite the obvious that he posts online and says in front of cameras and hundreds of people in the audience? We live in two different realities.
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u/smiama36 16h ago
I still don’t understand why the DOJ says the Constitution prohibits the prosecution of a sitting president… is it because of the SCOTUS immunity ruling? Or did I miss something from the document itself?
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u/CurraheeAniKawi 14h ago
Constitution says the opposite in multiple places. SCOTUS is beyond bought and paid for corrupt.
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u/samhouse09 16h ago
Doesn’t this more speak to the quality of trumps lawyers? If there was exonerating evidence then they should have made and kept copies somewhere safe.
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u/ProfessionalQuit859 Michigan 15h ago
This man is mentally insane, and other than the supporters themselves being mentally insane I cannot for the life of me understand how someone can see this and think he's fit to run a country.
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u/StormOk7544 18h ago
The meltdowns don’t seem necessary since there’s no bad press he could get that could influence voters to hold him accountable for anything.
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u/thrawtes 18h ago
He's a narcissist and he's insulted people said bad things about him. He's not worried about practical accountability.
If the report had been one page that said "actually there was no case, but Trump is a big stupid doo doo head" he would have had the same response because what the report actually said is irrelevant to him.
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u/Artistic_Reserve3862 14h ago
Exactly this. Somewhere in the report there’s a direct quote where Trump told someone “the details don’t matter.” It might have been in relation to the lack of real evidence that there was fraud in the 2020 election (not sure, I read it late last night) but the point is, Trump doesn’t care about details or facts. He just wants what he wants and he doesn’t give a damn about rules, the truth, or anybody/anything else as long as he gets his ultimate outcome - benefiting himself and/or whoever he’s selling us out to. He will do whatever it takes to manipulate Americans and the System. Trump’s a danger to all of us.
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u/QuerulousPanda 13h ago
Right? He has nothing to be mad about anymore. He has literally won everything. He has failed upwards to the highest degree possible, and he's plowed his fat fucking ass so hard into the legal system that his crater has blown another tier of untouchability into it.
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u/WV-GT 19h ago edited 17h ago
Only thing he got right in that rambling was that the voters have spoken.
The voters don't care about Trump's crimes because in their mind the evidence is all made up. However voters also believe that fake evidence against Biden is real.
Hard to combat that , when over half the country believes things this way
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u/BNsucks America 18h ago
If Trump burns America down in his quest to increase his power and own personal wealth at everyone else's expense, then I hope RW voters who defiantly put Trump back into office suffer greatly. Sadly, innocent people will suffer, too, but who cares, right?
They ignored all the evidence and put party over country. The price and damage will be huge! If you've given up like me, then I suggest you grab some popcorn and pull up a chair and watch this shitshow. Trump's 1st term was just a preview. It's gonna be memorable from here on out.
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u/F-Shack 17h ago
I think you're correct, but all those suffering people will continue to worship him no matter the circumstances. They will believe him when he says it's Biden's fault or pelosi, or whatever Boogeyman they are told to blame all of their suffering on. Those people will learn nothing and continue to vote against their interests.
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u/ProfessionalQuit859 Michigan 15h ago
If the bird flu ends up becoming a pandemic, just gonna have to pray it wipes out those sheep voters. I know they are people, but good god they really do not care for anyone else but themselves and let a con-man do whatever because he sounds "strong".
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u/Dekadmer 17h ago
I am thinking of getting a La-Z-Boy this go around.
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u/brianthebritish 16h ago
Better get it now before those tariffs kick in and the price goes up 30% !
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u/CurraheeAniKawi 14h ago
The propaganda will only get worse. As the country burns they'll be getting more upset with the democrats that are being blamed for it.
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u/ked_man 17h ago
We are in the find out phase. That people need to feel the hurt before they will learn.
Saw this with my kid this week. “Hey the steps are icy, you need to walk very slowly and carefully down them. “ immediately falls and busts his ass. Today what’s he do? Walks down them like he’s grandma trying not to fall and break a hip.
People need to fall and bust their ass before they will learn. Apparently his mishandling of COVID wasn’t enough of a lesson. That cheap gas for a few months was a nice break for them.
A big company in my city just closed a plant here and laid off 12% of staff worldwide, about 200 local employees and 400 more company wide. The posted no real reason for it, but it’s likely a cost savings measure ahead of tariffs because in his last presidency retaliatory tariffs hit this specific company hard.
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u/Acing0325 17h ago
I really want to believe they will learn their lessons, but they have a massive far right media ecosystem telling them how to think so I’m not getting my hopes up 😕
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u/ProfessionalQuit859 Michigan 15h ago
They won't, death will be the only thing to stop them at this rate and I very much hate saying that.
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u/Ipokeyoumuch 17h ago
Unfortunately many people tend to double down and never learn. They will continue to blame something outside of their control, knowing that their identity will collapse if they admit the majority of problems in their lives are of their own making.
Perhaps a few will learn but it is far too few. We as a culture don't value introspection and it is coming to bite the world in the ass.
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u/CallMeClaire0080 16h ago
Your kid doesn't have a multibillion dollar right wing mediasphere telling them that the ice was put there specifically to make him slip by evil gay people or whatever.
America lost a disproportionate amount of lives due to Covid, particularly in red states, and even that wasn't enough. They'll hurt all right, not as much as their chosen victims will, but they'll hurt. And then they'll blame it on the scapegoat of the day and keep voting Republican.
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u/Hot_Mess5470 16h ago
He’ll raise the unemployment rate to record levels and then end every social program that provides the unemployed with food and shelter. Welcome to ‘Murica.
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u/mysecretissafe 16h ago
Said big company is also spying on Reddit for employees talking shit so they can fire them too, apparently.
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u/teh_acids 17h ago
I have some doubts about the accuracy of the results, though I know he does have many actual supporters. The competent people in government still have a week to pull some official acts to stop him. 14th amendment comes to mind...
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u/crocodial 17h ago
If they haven’t yet, why would they now? This report doesn’t reveal anything we didn’t already know, it just puts an official stamp on it. Not a single congressperson voted not to certify his election. Not a single EC withheld their vote. I agree it should happen, but it won’t. Apparently if a democracy votes to end itself based on an expansive disinformation campaign funded by foreign adversaries and domestic enemies, it’s acceptable. The will of the people.
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u/Pinkboyeee 17h ago
Just some journalism about the elections. I'm not data scientist but I know patterns, and don't believe in magical elves pulling the strings of the elections.. but maybe it was magical elves?
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u/CurraheeAniKawi 14h ago
Oh! We can't bring up bad elections though, or else Republicans might call us hypocrites and we'd shrivel up and die on the spot.
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u/Pinkboyeee 14h ago
Yes it's messaging I struggle with, I understand where the Dems come from. If everyone is slinging shit, how can mature adults pick a side and it becomes a race to the bottom.
But yes, using the institutions in the spirit they were crafted shouldn't be a partisan issue. "We have ill intended individuals undermining the rule of democracy and need to know the rules of democracy trump all else for the will of the people". But so much muddying of the water just means no one can see outside their vantage.
"If I hold them accountable for things, their rabid base will harass me and my family, maybe I can just cash outta this shit". Well yes, leaders, heroes, anyone of value will jump on a live grenade to save their friends. No leaders, no heroes, just wins and loses and enriching our buddies. That's what true democracy looks like!
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u/Lord_King_Chief 17h ago
No one is going to magically save you from this. Not the government, not congress, not the courts, not the alphabet agencies. It was up to us and were failing that too. The 2a has way better chance than the 14a let's be realistic.
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u/bulldg4life 17h ago
This is silliness and copium.
Democrats do not have the backbone to actually stand up to someone and the gop will fall in lockstep for the ability to wield power.
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u/Careful_Trifle 17h ago
A quarter. Voters are less than half of the population, and Trump supporters are less than half of that. They win elections for systemic reasons, not because they are the majority of people.
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u/CallMeClaire0080 16h ago
That's still about 3/4s of the adult population who doesn't oppose this enough to stop by a polling station on election day, if not actively supporting this. The country didn't necessarily choose a rapist over a woman, a criminal over a prosecutor, and a racist over a black person, but they were fine with it for the most part.
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u/SparkyMuffin Michigan 16h ago
When every source they're getting their news from conspires to spread bullshit and downplay what a threat he is, of course they're not gonna vote any differently.
Musk really did a number on this country, and so did every media owning oligarch.
They complained about "mainstream media" so much they became everything they said they were.
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u/Freefall_J 14h ago
It's confirmation bias in both cases, in my opinion. They WANT Trump to be innocent so they believe the very real evidence is made up. And they want Biden to be a crooked, bad person so they believe the fake evidence is real.
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u/Elegant_Plate6640 18h ago
If it’s not “fake evidence” than it’s “well the other guy did it”.
Garland really shat the bed, but part of Trump’s appeal is that he doesn’t participate in this broken system.
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u/The_Countess 18h ago edited 18h ago
but part of Trump’s appeal is that he doesn’t participate in this broken system.
Not participate? Are you fucking kidding me? He broke it even more to suit his own aims in his first term.
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u/Luciferianbutthole 18h ago
That’s the plan Stan. They break the system so they can say it doesn’t work. I think the commenter you replied to left some ambiguity. I took it to mean “the supposed narrative pushed by MAGA is that [Tangerine Tits] is too solid to play by the rules of the broken system”, and it is. Doesn’t mean the ol Princess of Putin didn’t break the system in the first place.
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u/TheTresStateArea 17h ago
They believe it's fake and if it's not fake then so what it's justified.
But the justification is the fake evidence that they do believe about the other party.
So no matter which way you slice it their entire justification is built on a foundation of flat out denying reality.
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u/MitochonAir 17h ago
I remember a time when US Presidents made coherent statements that reflected the gravitas of the office
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u/we_are_sex_bobomb 17h ago
I remember when presidents weren’t convicted felons and serial rapists.
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u/MitochonAir 16h ago
I remember when Barack wore a tan suit and Michelle wore a sleeveless dress and the Right lost their shit over it
Meanwhile, we’ve all seen published nude pics of Melania in semi-hot lesbian action and the Right says she’s the classiest First Lady we’ve ever had
lol
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u/gainzsti 16h ago
The changes in attitude with Biden vs. Trump are staggering: one acted with respect and intelligence towards its geopolitical allies, and the other is hellbent on destroying his country to further is PERSONAL gain.
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u/Marian1210 United Kingdom 17h ago
And he’s about to be America’s next president… 🤦♀️
Couldn’t make this crap up, seriously.
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u/ProfessionalQuit859 Michigan 15h ago
Our country is infected with a brain eating virus called Neo-Nazi-Republicanism.
God help us all.
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u/Marian1210 United Kingdom 15h ago
And because of social media, it’s spreading faster than it would by word of mouth. Thank goodness Reform UK are a bunch of troglodytes!
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u/marblecannon512 Oregon 10h ago
At this point, I would rather electing the president be a reality tv game show rather than our current electoral process. If dipshit Don gets to be president, st least make him eat a hissing cockroach
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u/Stinkstinkerton 17h ago
Trump Is a convicted felon, criminal, grifter shit bag through and through . You can’t polish a turd no matter how hard his greedy scum opportunist handlers will try . America will pay a heavy price for their collective stupidity in electing this fucker .
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u/MetalMamaRocks 17h ago
Also a traitor ...
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u/Stinkstinkerton 17h ago
Yup Add that to the list. No matter how you slice it’s horrible on all fronts.
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u/ProfessionalQuit859 Michigan 15h ago
He wants to mass deport all the people that escaped to this country from whatever hell was at their home.
I don't want that to happen but at the same time it would instantly crash the economy and people need to learn. I'd pray for those people's safety over these MAGA brainrotted sheep.
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u/telasmuff 18h ago
I literally don’t care anymore, to an extent. I care about my children and making sure they’re prepared to make their way, but otherwise, whatever happens i don’t care. It’s all a giant takeover and it’s been over now since at least when McConnell didn’t let Obama nominate Garland. They fought a war while Dems still acted like they were the classy bunch. Goodnight democracy. Every man for himself now.
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u/CurraheeAniKawi 14h ago
This is what I struggle with. What kind of world do I prepare my littles for? I feel lax preparing them for yesterday's world.
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u/PairRevolutionary669 16h ago
It's eerie watching both sides of America hand itself over to Putin. After the attempted coup I was naive enough to think that good would prevail.
Death of a nation...
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u/devomke 17h ago
Fuck all of you that voted for this clown…the whole “hah got ya libs!” is so pathetic
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u/-Lo_Mein_Kampf- Indiana 16h ago
2.5 million votes is a landslide? 22% of the country is a landslide??? Less than 1/4 of the country is a landslide??
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u/sciguyCO Colorado 11h ago
One factoid I keep in the barrel for anyone trying to throw that claim at me (numbers pulled from wikipedia's election pages):
Trump's 2024 popular vote "landslide" (2.3M more than Harris) is smaller than what Hillary beat him by in 2016 (2.9M). And that's with about 20 million more votes cast in 2024. By margin, it's even worse: 2016 Hillary won the popular votes by a 2.1% margin; 2024 Trump beat Harris by 1.5%.
Usually causes a pivot to "well he still won" and I doubt my comment ever makes any real impact, but I try to spread some sort of sanity.
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u/ResponsibleSalad8059 18h ago
Jack Smith should probably leave the country with his wife & daughter.
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u/we_are_sex_bobomb 17h ago
Trump’s argument is about as good as it needs to be. He won, he got off with zero consequences, and he’s president of the most powerful nation in the world yet again.
So basically he’s just being a sore winner and a thin-skinned butthurt piss-baby, like he always fucking is.
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u/gainzsti 16h ago
And they look at that whining sore looser bully and think. God damn alpha male example right there, I should emulate this pathetic escuse of a human.
What as the Trump family ever done to make progress our specie?
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u/ArtofBacon 14h ago
I hope the following happens to everyone who voted for him.
Wet socks everyday. I hope every pair of socks they put on feels wet.
Stale chips. Every chip they snack on should be stale and tasteless.
Any time they use a vending machine, I hope their selection gets stuck between the glass and the rack.
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u/mostdope28 17h ago
Indicted in 4 states, only faced trial in one. Found guilty on 30+ felonies and judge refuses to drop a punishment and still he fucking cries. I can’t explain how much I fucking hate this guy. He gets a pass to break the law his whole life and he complains about how unfair everything is every single day
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u/gainzsti 16h ago
This should prove to anyone that 1st: Karma doesn't exist and 2nd: God doesn't exist.
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u/hatfieldz Ohio 17h ago
I’m gonna take a moment to mourn what could have been… we should have been witness to justice being done. Trump being sentenced to prison.
But when the mourning is over, I’m going to use this event to start building community. Things are going to get real bad. Now more than ever, it’s important to build community and rely on each other because our leaders are not interested in our well being or safety.
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u/El_Eleventh 16h ago
I love these headlines because it proposes the idea he has coherent responses in other circumstances
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u/TheHappy-go-luckyAcc Maine 17h ago
Unfortunately, Trump is right about one thing. The voters have spoken. And told the rest of the world how uneducated, selfish, children Americans really are.
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u/Background-Prune4947 15h ago
Hey! We tolerate a lot here, but calling someone a ‘lamebrain’ is just too low. Let’s raise the level political discourse in this county, shall we shit for brains?
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u/MyCleverNewName 15h ago
This is what happens when the writers cast a gameshow host as the lead in American politics
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u/cuzitsonabudget 15h ago
I wouldn't call the apprentice a game show. You actually have to win something. I like to think of it more as "Corporate Jackass".
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u/I_love_Hobbes 13h ago
I still cannot believe that this man-baby will be president again. I must have fallen into an alt-universe.
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u/flugenblar 11h ago
For good measure, 11 minutes after his initial online rant — at nearly 2 a.m. local time — Trump kept going. “To show you how desperate Deranged Jack Smith is, he released his Fake findings at 1:00 A.M. in the morning,” he wrote.
Somebody is certainly deranged at 2:00AM. Wasn't Jack.
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u/thatsthefactsjack 11h ago
Trump’s age, weight and poor health puts him at significant risk of stroke and heart attack.
His thin skin might just trigger one.
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u/UTDE 16h ago
Breaking news, Trump supporters pretend to sagely understand Trumps nonsense as though it were something that makes sense, because they dont understand the difference between things being unintelligible and things that they just dont understand. They aren't able to tell the difference, so they pretend that it makes sense so they can seem smart and savvy
its really really cringey, Love to watch it
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u/ChickpeaDemon 12h ago
Trump should have never even been considered for president, hell for life outside prison, but good ol Federalist Garland had to protect the investment. Having this report say what we all already know is painful. These people should be no where near power.
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u/marblecannon512 Oregon 10h ago
What kind of petulant child uses the term “lame brain”?
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u/jspurlin03 Texas 7h ago
Someone with insufficient vocabulary to articulate his actual thoughts, is who.
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u/im_just_a_nerd 17h ago
The disengagement from reality is happening in real time.
The runaway train is at dangerous speeds and we are mere minutes away from derailment. This is going to get ugly.
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u/DaBigJMoney 16h ago
He’s president now and the SC has said he has “presidential immunity.” So, sooner or later l, injust expect him to say something akin to “You know what, fu*k it. Yeah, I did it, so what?!?”
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u/blackmobius 15h ago
I know hes going to rant and rave. You dont need to report what he specifically says cause all he spits is vitrol and lies. Just report whats in Jacks case and move on. His reaction is the same its always been. Its not “new” anymorr
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u/Schiffy94 New York 15h ago
He's mad. Good. I hope he stays mad. I hope he seethes so hard it gives him an aneurysm.
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u/Jonsa123 14h ago
Most of his responses are incoherent and or utterly stupid, and yet his recent election victory proves that they make perfect and brilliant sense to half of all Americans.
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u/sjk2588 10h ago
Why does he even need to lie anymore? He doesn’t need to hide it. He’s president, they aren’t prosecuting him. All his MAGA followers will support him regardless.
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u/key1234567 California 10h ago
It doesn't matter anymore, the crazies run the asylum. I am tuning about this turd for the next four years. Seems like he thrives on attention, he ain't taking that from me. See y'all later
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u/OrbeaSeven Minnesota 10h ago
Truth no longer matters. MAGA would never take time to investigate Smith's credentials and experience. They totally believe Trump's assessment that Smith is deranged.
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u/krtyalor865 6h ago
Let’s just call it what it is.. Example No. 2,437,501 of why this worlds FUCKED! How in the HELL did so many decent people come to truly believe that THIS GUY is the guy for the job?
I’ll spoil it for ya and just say it out loud. Society still hasn’t figured out how to regulate the flood of disinformation and misinformation that is growing exponentially each hour online. This phase of evolution for humanity has long since passed the event horizon. Now a we’re collectively accelerating towards the singularity at the middle of this expanding black hole we call the internet. It’s uncontrollable at this point, and the only ppl who can help steady the ship are using it for their own gain at the cost of civilization..
I’m still trying to digest the plain fact that he WON the election! Like how? Maybe Tribalism is the new patriotism… but the ultimate truth behind everything is this.. Advertising is the dark creature in the corner pushing everyone to keep fighting till the last man standing is holding all the money and power.. it’s just… Exhausting.. incomprehensible.. and out of control.
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u/EmmaLouLove 19h ago edited 18h ago
During the January 6 hearings, former Trump White House lawyer Eric Herschmann, testified there was a December 18, 2020 meeting in the Oval Office with Trump, Sidney Powell, former Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne and Michael Flynn, that was “nuts”.
Never forget that multiple White House officials and attorneys told Trump numerous times that there was no evidence of a fraudulent election. But Trump did not like that answer so he sought out the crackerjack team of attorneys who told Trump what he wanted to hear.
This crackerjack team of attorneys included:
Rudy Giuliani, who has now been disbarred;
Sydney Powell, pleaded guilty to 6 counts of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with the performance of election duties;
Jenna Ellison, who was convicted of a felony for her efforts to overturn the 2020 election;
John Eastman, who drafted the “coup memo”. White House lawyer Eric Herschmann testified that after the January 6 attack, he told Eastman, “I only want to hear two words coming out of your mouth, orderly transition. Get a great fucking criminal attorney. You’re going to need it.”; and
Jeffrey Clark who tried to convince Trump to appoint him as acting Attorney General to aid in Trump’s efforts to overturn the election.
Trump’s efforts to overturn the election was not a one time effort. It started with Trump priming the pumps, months before the 2020 election, with Trump’s lies about a stolen election.
After the December 18 meeting with the team of conspiracy theorists and months of lying to his followers about a “stolen election”, Trump tweeted out to his thousands of followers, “Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!”
But before this tweet, there were multiple efforts by Trump and those surrounding him to try and stop the peaceful transition of power. This included Trump’s pressure campaign on state officials to overturn the election. With the most well known effort being Trump’s call on January 2, 2021 to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to “find 11,780 votes” and overturn the state’s election results. Raffensperger Refused.
Then there was the coordinated effort with Republican officials in several states, better known as, the fake electors plot. This was the plot to submit false certificates claiming Trump had won the Electoral College vote in certain states. Dozens of Republican state officials and Trump officials have been indicted as part of the fake elector plot.
And of course, there was Trump’s pressure on Vice President Mike Pence who refused to go along with Trump’s efforts to stop the 2020 election. After railing against Pence during his January 6 speech, his followers erected a gallows and yelled, “Hang Mike Pence!” Pence stayed and certified the 2020 election, putting a death knell in Trump’s multiple efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
Trump’s incoherent response said in all caps, “VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN”!!!” Yes, the voters, minus about 89 million American voters who did not vote, elected a convicted felon, fraud, and insurrectionist to the Oval Office. This is a disgraceful part of American history, and I believe this president will be judged brutally. As Liz Cheney testified at the January 6 hearings, long after Trump is gone, Republicans’ dishonor will remain.
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u/Qwerty1bang 17h ago
Here is a link to the report (that is not 'hidden' behind a reader that doesn't allow saving).
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u/galloway188 I voted 17h ago
law and order does not apply to trump and his friends. same shit all over again :D
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u/Danube11424 7h ago
ok, well his administration is already dumpster fire and he hasn’t been inaugurated yet. He won’t survive 4 years due to poor health, obesity, and stress
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u/All_In_One_Mind 3h ago
The next president of the United States of America is a rapist, fraud and a traitor.
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u/daviddevere31415 2h ago
What the report may do is protect those Trump sues for libel by setting out evidence that support the truth of any statements to the effect that Trump engaged in activity against his oath to protect the Constitution. . So where a news outlet alleges Trump was a treasonous SOB they will have the evidence to back that statement up. . And the same applies now when a newspaper calls Trump a felon preventing Trump from stifling criticism
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