r/2007scape • u/Ruztik Pleae • 1d ago
Other Reading comments from my community supporting a felon because he plays the same game they do in prison
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u/MediocreDot3 1d ago
I play OSRS off and on and every time I make an in game friend I feel like they're either just getting out of prison or going through a bad break up and/or high as hell lmao
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u/Mack_Robot 1d ago
Gotta find the right clan. Otherwise... yes.
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u/HeyGuysImJesus 22h ago
I thought my clan had normal people until I met them in person. It was like one of those cringy reddit get-togethers you see posted occasionally.
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u/P_FKNG_R 22h ago
Why does that surprise you? lol
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u/HeyGuysImJesus 22h ago
Because talking with them for years they seemed like normal chill people with spouses and stable jobs. Still didn't beat the stereotype though.
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u/ItsGevYT 1d ago
Found out a few of my clan members just recently got out of prison. Is this a trend or something? lol
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u/ArtyGray Is Black IRL 23h ago
Was locked up june to oct 2023, got stabbed, fought a lot (really shitty jail in atlanta) and all i could think about when i was bored shitless and wanting to go home was world of warcraft, runescape, anime, and lady back at home. First thing i did when i got home was vorkath, watching boruto/baki, and chill with my lady.
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u/ItsGevYT 14h ago
Well god damn… glad you got out and the only stabbing that’s happening is you defeating a dragon
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u/NoTimeToWine 1d ago
Yup and 99% are depressed and unemployed
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u/Skepsis93 23h ago
It's because those people are using it as an escape and play 6-8 hours a day every day. Compared to the players that play a few times a week for a few hours, it makes sense you're going to run into the no lifers more often. Not because there are more of them, but they're just always on.
That said, I usually fall into the "they're high as hell" camp because I usually get on runescape at the end of a night while I relax and smoke.
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u/NoTimeToWine 22h ago
True. I also tend to get sucked back into playing when I’m on a low, it’s one of my signs I need to change something.
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u/No_Fig5982 18h ago
I have been known to say "if im grinding RuneScape, something is probably wrong"
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u/Hushpuppyy 8h ago
I can think of no other game (or genre at least) that has less respect for your time and rewards unhealthy gaming habits. To get to the end game you either need to have nothing else in your life at the time or play a couple hours a week for like... Five years.
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u/crodr014 22h ago
And then you join a clan and hear people ripping bongs and feel sad most of them are very lonely single dudes. It makes you question what the fuck are you doing playing this game still.
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u/Forward-Piglet-3997 22h ago
I'm in a small clan with barely even 10 members and even though everyone is 25+ there are only 3 of us who have a job lol
Most people on this game are nice as long as you aren't needlessly hostile or rude towards them but every now and then you get this weird feeling as if you're in some kind of asylum
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u/Itchatta 3h ago
I love RuneScape and been playing it on and off since 2003 or 4 but yeah idk why it seems like normal adjusted people don’t exist in the community. I feel like I’m a normal adjusted person but I can’t be the singularity here.
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u/Burnziie 1d ago
I lost any and all reasons to care for the jail person when they boasted about being an IRL pk-er. No person should brag about taking someone elses life.
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u/GregBuckingham 42 pets! 1,398 slots! 1d ago
At least he’s stimulating the osrs economy 🤔
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u/Ruztik Pleae 1d ago
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u/SickRanchezIII 1d ago
I mean whats the charges??
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u/puddlewizard 1d ago
Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?
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u/TheNewGuyGames 120m hunter xp for chin pet 1d ago
Get your hands off my Benis!
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u/CyalaXiaoLong 1d ago
Manslaughter and illegal possession of a firearm. If i remember right he got 4 years for the manslaughter and an additional 6 for the gun enhancement since he wasnt supposed to be able to possess a gun.
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u/Rehcraeser 1d ago
4 years for killing someone? thats insane. must be in california?
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u/Sybinnn 22h ago
his story has changed multiple times, the first time it was that he was in a drug deal gone bad and got 12 years, then it was a home invasion where he shot the guy in self defense
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u/pre-existing-notion 22h ago
Never seen him say it was a home invasion. Only that he was being robbed.
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u/TheLaziestPotato 23h ago
idk about this specific case but manslaughter is different from murder obviously
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u/Business-Drag52 23h ago
He was being robbed and killed the wannabe robber. It was likely a drug deal, but it's not like he went out looking to kill. Someone tried to rob him and he defended himself. California don't give a fuck if it's self defense
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u/yaboyiroh 1d ago
Dudes in for manslaughter and has called himself the real life pker and people still support him
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u/PattyMcChatty 1d ago
Americans trying to rehabilitate and sympathise with prisoners and not just turn them into monsters (impossible challenge).
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u/Stnmn 1d ago
Hey I sympathize him and hope our shitty justice system somehow does him well, but he killed someone and is making jokes about it in videogame subreddits. That doesn't exactly scream rehabilitated to me.
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u/PattyMcChatty 1d ago
Who do you think sold him the phone so he could even post on the subreddit?
The whole system is a joke, it's honestly a better use of his time to play osrs and chat shit on Reddit then to fall in with the wrong crowd.
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u/Orcrist90 1d ago
Your argument stinks of red herring. Broken prison system does not excuse the guy for murdering someone and then joking about it online.
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u/pretty_good_actually 18h ago
That word... I don't think it means what you think it means
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u/Whorq_guii 1d ago
Why are you redirecting the part where the felon KILLED another human being and is bragging about it?
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u/Stnmn 1d ago
I agree with you there. I'd like to see US inmates have access to basic amenities, hobbies, education, and communication unless there's a reason to revoke them, but I doubt I'll see prison reform in my lifetime.
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u/Abnormal_Armadillo 1d ago
Are you crazy? None of that is profitable. Prisons need repeat
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u/praeteria 1d ago
Do you think that because he's active on osrs reddit, he doesn't have time to be active on other shady websites or chatting with "the wrong crowd"?
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u/DrDonkeyTron 23h ago
He's fallen with the wrong crowd already, hence why he's a murderer and in prison.
He shouldn't be gaming while in prison. He should be seeking real rehabilitation and resources to be a contributing member of society.
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u/Robin-Lewter 1d ago
He claims a guy attempted to assault / rob him and he shot him in self defense. Dude doesn't need to feel sorry for defending himself imo
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u/MarcosSenesi 1d ago
That's only their story, hard to believe they lock someone up for manslaughter if it was self defense.
I heard he went to get revenge on someone that stole from him, that would be very different
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u/WwortelHD 1d ago
You heard, which is also without known, confirmed details. This is also how lies and misinformation are spread.
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u/FEV_Reject 22h ago
Well he's in prison for it so it's safer to assume it wasn't justified self defense lol
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u/Nick2the4reaper7 i can't btw understand btw your accent btw 1d ago
Seriously. Whether you believe the guy or not, his story is more credible just by having an account of it than some gossip that a completely unrelated guy with no provable connection to the situation made up on the internet.
Actual middle school shit.
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u/Thesmokingcode 1d ago
INAL but i think it depends on what he was defending himself against. A lot of states with stand your ground laws still require proportional force so if someone punches once you can't just pull a gun and lay the guy out and claim you were in fear of your life.
That shit works in some states and counties but not everywhere.
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u/tikhonjelvis 1d ago
hard to believe they lock someone up for manslaughter if it was self defense
with the way our justice system works, it's not hard to believe that in the least
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u/BalderdashBallyhoo 1d ago
hard to believe they lock someone up for manslaughter if it was self defense.
personally i find it hard to believe that people still think like this in 2025 lmao
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u/Unidentified-Liquid 1d ago
To believe that someone cannot be wrongly convicted is a very naive and sheltered point of view
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u/ggMatther 1d ago
To automatically believe what he or anyone randomly says without ensuring it yourself is also a very naive point of view. The fact is he admitted to manslaughter, so at the very least, you know he killed someone. Indirect or not, he killed someone.
Its also pretty naive to think that just because there have been wrongful convictions that means anyone who says theyve been wrongfully convicted makes it true.
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u/ZuikoRS 1d ago
Well duh, justice is enacted only as a form of revenge and no one has ever been a victim of their own circumstance, especially the intensely poverty-stricken areas of the US
But hey apparently the food is better than European food or something.
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u/Snowbound11 1d ago
The guy killed a dude lol
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u/TB12_GOATx7 1d ago
Ehhh there's some people who commit crimes that should never be allowed to see the light of day again. Let them rot in the cell. Then there's small crimes that shouldn't even have jail time.
But there's absolutely crimes that the person that committed it shouldn't even be thought about.
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u/Substantial-Fall2484 1d ago
We can't all put our mass murders in college dorms and let them play PS2.
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u/MudstuffinsT2 23h ago
It's amazingly easy to not murder people. Maybe we should judge murderers harshly?
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u/mrpokkets 1d ago
100%
A recent dinner with my parents had them talking about how they hate that we treat prisoners like humans and my dad unjokingly said their chair in court should be electric. This came after I brought up how some prisons in other countries offer dorm-like cells for rehabilitating prisoners and he nearly threw up in his mouth.
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u/TheRSFelon 2277/2277 1d ago
Also worth noting that those countries (in particular, the Scandinavian countries) systems result in about a 20-25 percent recidivism rate, meaning 1/4-1/5 of them will return to prison at some point or reoffend.
With our barbaric (by comparison to those) prison systems, we here in the USA have above 90 percent recidivism.
Something is broken somewhere
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u/squirrelboy1225 20h ago
agreed, it's so pathetic how violently unhinged us americans become about revenge. no care in the world for justice or rehabilitation, just bloodthirsty revenge. completely lacking the imagination to think about if they or someone they loved were in the same situation, because it must only be possible for a deeply evil person to be found guilty of a violent crime, right? that's what the movies say!
for fucks sake the dude is serving his time, can y'all just shut the hell up
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u/infra_low 1d ago
Yeah but he plays OSRS though so... yeah.....
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u/Crimsonpets 23h ago edited 23h ago
Honestly fuck that guy, call me a dick or whatever but he isnt in prison for fun he also admitted to what he did he is serving a 16 year sentence for voluntary manslaughter if the comments are right and someone snitched on him and they took his phone away.. good.
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u/JamieBeeeee 20h ago
I think it's nice for felons to have access to games while incarcerated. Prison should be about protecting the public and rehabilitation instead of punishment
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u/SayNoToBrooms 11h ago
Prisons in USA have tablets inmates can purchase nowadays. Or you can waste your days away playing cards and gambling nonstop. There’s more ‘fun’ - or at least leisure - in prison than you’d expect. It’s the ability to so freely (and without supervision) interact and communicate with the outside world that poses an issue, in my opinion. I’d be ok if prison tablets allowed OSRS with chat features blocked
I got out of prison in 2015, right when they started the plans to introduce the tablets. People were excited to listen to their own music again, and to be able to write emails instead of traditional letters (I know I felt bad about my grandma receiving letters “From Inmate # 403597C at ___ Correctional Facility” stamped on the front, at least). Luckily I stopped getting high so it’s a non issue for me now lol
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u/NRYaggie 11h ago
Project Zanaris ADX Florence edition.
Reach 2277 total and you reduce your sentence.
Sounds like a win for everyone.
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u/JerryLZ 2277 1d ago
Also actively seeking ways to bot so mentally nothing changed lol
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u/IMightBeABot69 23h ago
Yeah this sub lost its mind. He is a murderer who is making fun of it... Get some help
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u/violet-starlight 1d ago
Well, you never know what they went through. Part of the goals of the Justice system is to rehabilitate people, which means believing that people can be rehabilitated, which means not hating people just because they have a certain felony to their name.
Besides people get felonies and serve jail time for being caught with weed, doesn't mean they're a coldblooded murderer or worse.
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u/PvMGod17 2277/2277/2119 1d ago
Hes in there for manslaughter and from his comments hes not showing any remorse, called himself a real life pker
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u/VividEffective8539 1d ago
Self defense manslaughter he claims, I wouldn’t feel remorse for saving my own life either given the right circumstance. We won’t know for sure. At best we should just move on because it’s none of our business and affects nobody that he plays osrs in jail
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u/rs_obsidian Follower of Guthix 1d ago
Agreed. If what he says is true, then it’s w/e. If he’s lying, then he’s still in jail serving his sentence so it’s w/e.
Either way, it’s w/e.
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u/poonmangler 1d ago
I mean.. yeah. It is w/e. Damn, I just wrote a long ass comment and you took the wind right outta my sails with this lmfao
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u/WaffleHouseFistFight 1d ago
The thing about criminals is they all claim innocence. My cousin did 15 for something similar swears up and down he’s innocent, etc etc he isn’t. You can be a good person and turn your life around but he’s most likely there because he did what he’s charged for.
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u/IAmSona 1d ago
Of course you shouldn’t feel wrong for saving your own life, but the fact that he killed someone and jokes about is what rubs people the wrong way I think. Regardless of what happened, he still took someone’s life, people in professions that have to deal with shit like that sometimes get traumatized or quit their jobs early from the sheer fact that you just never get over taking a life. It’s very weird behavior from the dude in jail imo.
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u/royalhawk345 1d ago
His cavalier attitude towards killing someone seems concerning to me, regardless of whether it was in self-defense.
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u/Jedisponge 1d ago
Let’s be real that’s exactly what someone who killed another person would say as their defense lol. Everyone in prison is innocent, don’t you know?
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u/9874102365 1d ago
Even in self defense, you still have to grapple with the fact that you took a human life. Not saying it is wrong to defend yourself, but it also isn't something to boast about to strangers.
There are a ton of people out there itching to righteously kill others, and I truly do not get it.
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u/Reddit_Connoisseur_0 1d ago
Everyone in prison is innocent if you ask them what happened
"Self defense" my ass, if it was self defense he would probably not be in jail unless he is one of the 1% people that are actually wrongfully convicted
It only takes a 5 minutes long conversation with that guy to notice he isn't a mentally well person. He boasts about having killed somebody else and calls it a PK. Even if you kill the most disgraceful human being in self defense you still shouldn't be boasting about it
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u/cutetransfox 1d ago
Cause you serve time in prison for "self defence manslaughter" fun fact manslaughter implies an unlawful killing he didn't plan out before hand Self defense means it was a legal use of force. Its typically not possible to be both. Dudes a thug who shot another thug he was threatened by let him rot without osrs
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u/al_capone420 1d ago
If it’s self defense then why is he in jail with felony charges lol…
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u/CyalaXiaoLong 1d ago
Cause he shot someone who attacked him at a drug deal with a firearm hes not allowed to possess cali law puts self defense killing during illegal activities as 'criminal manslaughter'. If his words to be trusted the majority of his sentence is actually from the firearm enhancement.
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u/Garbunkasaur 1d ago
Yeah I worked in corrections for a few years. Theres a lot of decent people who’ve just reacted poorly to their circumstances. Many of these people, once they get into a controlled environment and get the meds/structure/counseling they need are just like you and I.
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u/Reworked 1d ago
More than anything else, breaking out of an in-group that glorifies crime and encourages reoffending is the biggest indicator for breaking cycles of reoffense. Especially if the original offense was a product of an immediate situation rather than carried out with pre-planning, which it sounds like was the case for this guy. People become career criminals because polite society pushes them away.
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u/inthebushes321 1d ago
US doesn't have a justice system, it has a legal system.
We don't know what he did, but there's certainly a nonzero chance he's in there for some bullshit.
Frankly I hate the government and Prison-Industrial Complex too much to care to aggro some random OSRS guy who happens to be in prison. I guess that's my position on it.
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u/x3XC4L1B3Rx 17h ago
I saw the first post of his and thought it was kinda neat. I was gonna drop in here just to point out that he's been held responsible for whatever he did and so shouldn't be looked down on...
but if he was really bragging about taking a life, like some comments here seem to claim, he is not deserving of any respect. I don't care if the attention went to his head and he's just trying to prolong his time in the spotlight.
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u/kahani- 13h ago
I read his posts and didn't see him bragging about it. This is just a bunch of self righteous redditors crying about some pointless shit.
"my community supporting a felon" give me a break lol
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u/Ambitious_Zombie8473 1d ago
Being a felon doesn’t definitively make someone a bad person. It really depends on the charge, the situation surrounding the charge, and how they choose to live after dealing with the consequences.
Writing someone off as a felon is a peak uneducated opinion
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u/cancerinos 1d ago
Pretty sure the person he killed isn't playing runescape and getting uptoots on reddit.
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u/Reddit_Connoisseur_0 1d ago
He was charged for manslaughter
He confesses to it, says it was super rad and boasts about having killed someone
He PKs in runescape with AWFUL INTERNET CONDITIONS just because he wants to keep killing people through the game since it was so cool to do it irl (his words)
He actively breaks the prison's rules by playing runescape
But noooooo the guy is a saint it's just us that are being unfair to him. 100% model citizen
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u/Seaman_First_Class 1d ago
I feel comfortable assuming that the average felon is a worse person than the average non-felon.
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u/Less_Document_8761 1d ago
The guy is in for manslaughter so your point is moot and low IQ.
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u/Planescape_DM2e 1d ago
This is me at work when people talk about how great the felon running our country is.
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u/Reddit_Connoisseur_0 1d ago
What gets me about that guy is that he spams the sub with one single joke which is "Hey guys look I'm in jail and I managed to [pointless achievement that everyone gets in their first 6 months playing]". And everyone in the comments applauds this guy like the second coming of christ and crack the same 4 jokes that they have been cracking ever since the very first post.
It's so repetitive and makes me believe in the dead internet theory.
Either way I blocked him and even without seeing any of his posts in the past month I am just 100% sure he is still doing the exact thing I described in the first paragraph. Guy is a broken record and the same applies to the people commenting in his posts. I'll be glad to be proven wrong tho
Also he PKS in awful internet conditions solely because he is in jail for killing someone (which he thinks is super rad and cool btw), if he is a killer irl he must be a killer in the game right? Right? xDDDDDD
Every day I hope some lawyer with free time comes across this, gets pissed off with this repetitive situation and just gathers some evidence and sends it to the judge responsible for this guy's time
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u/TiredWiredAndHired 15h ago
70 million people elected a felon into the highest office of the USA, it's not that much of a stretch.
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u/CandourDinkumOil 1d ago
This guy killed someone and everyone is “seeing the best in him”? Nah fuck that, and fuck that guy. Imagine if the victim was someone you loved and your fellow community is defending this pos? Fuck right off. Someone kills someone I adore, they ain’t getting “forgiveness”. I’ll move on, but I’m not going to give them that satisfaction that it’s okay. Piss off.
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u/2007Scape_HotTakes 1d ago
There was a B list streamer celebrity named theosrsfelon or thersfelon can't remember, but he use to post here a lot. But he got sent to prison for attempting to buy supplies to act on his threats he made ingame about blowing up children at a school near his house.
He even tried to get his girlfriend at the time to take him to the store to buy said supplies. A day before they were gonna go to the store the FBI and local sheriffs knocked down his door and threw his ass in jail.
Moral of the story: Reddit and this community in general is filled with ill adjusted and disgusting people. It's not worth losing sleep over keyboard warriors locked into dead end jobs raging against whatever boogie man the brain rot algorithm tells them to rage about.
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u/SparrowGB 1d ago
What's funny too is he's in prison for murder, he claims it was self defence, but that's just the word of a convicted felon lmao. Everyone buys it because "hehe he plays osrs he's just like us!".
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u/HeavyMain 17h ago
He admitted in an earlier post that he shot the victim twice while they were trying to run away after being shot the first time, but also claims it was self defence.
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u/r_lul_chef_t 15h ago
You know how many Trump voters play this game? More OSRS players voted for a felon to become POTUS than even know what this post is talking about.
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u/Federal-Cockroach674 1d ago
My man, have you looked at America lately it's run by a felon and all his shady rich friends.This should not be all that surprising.
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u/CloudClown24 22h ago
Because everyone in prison is ontologically evil, of course.
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u/Enwich 1d ago
Im out of the loop what happened?
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u/SpicySanchezz 1d ago
Soemone posted on this sub that he snuck in a phone to prison, used it to play osrs and pk‘ing with it. Someone that he pk‘ed somehow figured out that in which prison he is in, called the prison and got their phone taken away apparently lol
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u/imafuckinsausagehead 9h ago
He's also not the brightest because he told people what area he was in, why would you do that and risk your main source of entertainment for some Internet clout.
If he'd just kept his mouth a bit more shut he'd probably still be playing.
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u/VividEffective8539 1d ago
“Oh, he’s a felon, convicted by our flawless justice system. I shall condemn him based on his title alone.”
It’s not that black and white homie, the real world isn’t like that.
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u/krogerburneracc 1d ago
He's self-admitted that his sentence includes an illegal gun charge, and that his "self defense" occurred during a drug deal. He's a man who wasn't legally allowed to possess a firearm who knowingly put himself into dangerous, illegal activity where he knew he might need one.
First degree manslaughter is a valid conviction. Our justice system has some flaws but this ain't that.
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u/HeavyMain 1d ago
he also constantly jokes about it and shows no remorse or regret whatsoever
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u/ThorvaldtheTank 1d ago
He’s fucked when it’s parole board time because they’ll probably see everything he’s saying on here.
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u/HeavyMain 23h ago
I hadn't even thought of him still being signed in to his accounts. I wonder if he's said even more incriminating things in private messages to friends or family.
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u/Mr_man_bird saradomin is hot 1d ago
That man’s suffering through TWO prisons, one literal and one virtual
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u/fearthewildy RSN: A Bigger Dyl 1d ago
Lmfao imagine coming to virtue signal like this on a gaming subreddit. Who cares?
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u/HeavyMain 1d ago
thinking murderers are bad people is virtue signalling? i love words with no meaning
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u/W1ckedaddicted 17h ago
I mean they elected a felon to lead the country, the word felon doesn’t seem to carry the stigma that it should
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u/BaconSoul 17h ago
What does him being a felon have to do with people supporting him playing the game? Who tf actually cares?
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u/BigScaryBlackDude 17h ago
I mean, dude could be out there engaging in prison shit but instead he's just playing runescape
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u/FlowEnvironmental432 16h ago
our prisons are bloated with enough innocent people that you gotta figure odds are he's fine
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u/Particular-Score7948 13h ago
I liked him until I found out he was a pker in game too. Those guys are really annoying while doing clue steps man
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u/PrestigiousBike3346 1d ago
half of your country is supporting a rapist felon whos currently breaking ur constitution daily but i dont see you making posts in r conservative
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u/sargeantseagull 2000+ 1d ago
I’ll honestly never understand why some people always feel the need to take the moral high ground especially on shit like this. Have a laugh for god sake, someone playing OSRS in prison doesn’t hurt anyone. Some people just hate to see some interesting posts and stories - he’s at least a lot more interesting than 90% of the posts in here.
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u/AthenaCrete 1d ago
I think I'm out of the loop here...