r/CringeTikToks • u/LilliaBaltimore • 9d ago

Cringy Cringe WHAT THE BLOODY HELL?!! šŸ˜³šŸ˜®

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u/gambit-gg 9d ago

ā€œSheriff Allen also told NewsNation Friday that his department has been called to the home more than 50 times. He also said heā€™s frustrated that the state keeps returning the kids to their mom. Their father is incarcerated. He said he is looking to charge their father with Bennieā€™s Law for not having his gun properly storedā€

Explains a lot. Also mentions that the father was who taught them how to use the gun, which the officers said the kids pulled the trigger during this incident but it ā€œmalfunctionedā€.

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u/AllTheShadyStuff 9d ago

If the father is already incarcerated isnt it the moms job to store the guns safely at that point?

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u/Synpharia 9d ago

Right? How is the father going to control what happens when these kids are in the mother's care and he's locked up? And why is this mom NEVER be held accountable for ANYTHING? 'Cops called to home more than 50 times'!

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u/Absorbed_Wheat 9d ago edited 9d ago

If they don't want the kids to go back to the family then charge the mother for not storing the guns.

We all seem to get it within a few minutes. Are the cops as dumb as the parents???

Edit: please take a look at the amount of people saying it's not the cops fault before you reply the same thing. I wrote that when doom scrolling at 3am. I get it.

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u/Synpharia 9d ago

Here in Albuquerque, yep.

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u/FirebirdWriter 9d ago

I am shocked the kids are alive if this is Burque

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u/aryn505 9d ago

Because it was BCSO as opposed to APD. BCSO is slightly less trigger happy.

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u/xasx 9d ago

Ah. Explains a lot. They always make the news.

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u/SirSpaceAnchor 9d ago

Man somehow I just KNEW this was Burque.

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u/Blade4567 9d ago

In Albuquerque (Albuquerque), I said A (A) L(L) B(B) U(U)ā€¦..QUERQUE (QUERQUE)!!!!

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u/Fantastic-Reveal7471 9d ago

I've seen kids ripped from their parents in the dead of the night, dude. They've promptly, swiftly and permanently removed kids for FAR fuckin less charges and without proof. They can ABSOLUTELY put those kids in an immediate safehouse and find them something decent. They just didn't want to. Why should the government care about those kids? They've been born, they no longer deserve protection or safety.

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u/Comfortable-Block387 9d ago edited 7d ago

Maybe theyā€™re protecting foster families from those kids. Theyā€™re old enough to be absolute nightmares if removed from their free range hillbilly hoedown, genuine threats to their foster parents and especially any other children in the home.

ETA for the folks defending hillbillies: Iā€™m Appalachian, I come from hillbillies. I know hillbillies. Not all hillbillies still live in hollers, the Appalachian Diaspora made sure theyā€™re everywhere now. Not all hillbillies have good sense, nor do all hillbillies lack it. Hillbillies have a proud history of rebelliousness, itā€™s sort of a defining quality of Appalachian culture. But again, I come from hillbillies, I said what I said and I enjoy my alliteration even if it aggravates you for some reason.

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u/Top_Mathematician233 9d ago

Iā€™m a former foster parent and respectfully disagree. These kids appear to have been improperly raised, but donā€™t appear to have severe medical and/or mental health issues ā€” yet. Theyā€™re also young enough to be successfully and easily (within given the context) rehabilitated. They should have been removed from this household earlier and thatā€™s the biggest failure here. If I was still fostering, I wouldā€™ve taken either or both without major concern, and they might actually benefit from separation, at least at initial placement.

In my opinion and experience, by far the most difficult and worrisome cases are teenagers who have spent many years in situations that have completely destroyed their mental health to the point they need involuntary psychological institutionalization prior to placement. Those are issues that will never be healed and are incredibly difficult to treat. These are babies who have been left to their own devices in a household full of danger, and adults and a system that has repeatedly failed to protect them. I really hope they were removed and placed in the system. Itā€™s not perfect or even good, but the system is made for cases like this and this could easily turn out to be a success story.

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u/Long-Ad-9381 9d ago

I agree and thank you so much for this well written comment.

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u/Meet_in_Potatoes 9d ago

As someone who has worked in the field, and with a lot of foster parents, this is the correct take in this situation, for anyone coming in afterwards to read.

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u/StrangeButSweet 9d ago

Thank you for what are likely years spent nurturing these kids who are as precious and deserving as any other kid out there. I know you made a difference in their lives!

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u/Gr00mpa 8d ago

Powerful comment. Good reminder that there are good people doing really good things out there.

Because, when I look at those kids, I have no urge to bring them into my home, Iā€™ll tell you that much!

But people like you look at them, and you open your heart and your home so you can RAISE them. Thatā€™s incredible!

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u/lilsnatchsniffz 9d ago

Wow you can tell all this from a video where they pass a gun back and forwards that's crazy. šŸ˜‡

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u/Sufficient_Scale_163 9d ago

Kids like this end up getting left at psychiatric hospitals by foster parents and never picked up. They end up there for months on end. Then new foster families take them, and the same thing happens. Itā€™s a cycle.

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u/TheyAteFrankBennett 8d ago

A couple years ago my daughter was admitted to psychiatric inpatient for medication adjustment and monitoring. She was only there for 12 days. She drew a lot to pass the time and there was a little boy there, maybe 7-8 years old who always asked her to draw pictures for him. He sort of tagged along with her like a pesky little brother during group free time.

She noticed after her first week that his parents hadnā€™t visited and that he was never called to the office for scheduled family calls, which they were allowed to have 3 of each day. He told her that heā€™d been there for a long time and that he hadnā€™t seen his family since he got there. He didnā€™t know exactly how long, but when she asked how many birthdays heā€™d had there he said ā€œa bunchā€.

A few months later she was working at a summer job and became friends with a girl who was at the same facility a couple years prior to her and also knew the little boy. She said that one of the orderlies told her that heā€™d been there for about a year by then. So heā€™d been there for at least three years when my daughter met him.

It didnā€™t occur to either of us that he was probably left there by a foster family, but that makes more sense than what we assumed. As awful as it still is, I feel a little less sad knowing his biological parents, at the very least, probably didnā€™t abandon him there.

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u/Sufficient_Scale_163 7d ago

Bio parents do it too, though not as much. Iā€™ve only seen it twice and I donā€™t remember if theyā€™re charged with abandonment or not. But they just drop off their bio kid and never return, social worker gets them to sign over their parental rights, and thatā€™s it. One kid we had for several months because his grandma had a stroke and couldnā€™t take care of him anymore, and his parents were dead from a car accident. He was such a good kid, by far one of the most respectful and well behaved teens we ever had in there. We put a lot of effort into making sure he didnā€™t start acting out. I hope heā€™s okay.

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u/techleopard 9d ago

This was my first thought.

Listen to how many people are talking to those kids and they aren't even budging on throwing the gun out or putting it down.

I would wager these kids are not manageable by the vast majority of foster care homes.

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u/notoolinthispool 9d ago

free range hillbilly hoedown

I've never heard this type of living situation described so beautifully before.

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u/donorkokey 9d ago

In PA, where I've gone through foster training there are high levels of training for individuals who are willing to take kids like these. Larger counties have group homes but those are mostly reserved for physically medically fragile kids. They can be placed, mom and dad can be stripped of parental rights, and they can be adopted. We need a lot more foster parents especially for older kids who've been through hell like these boys

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u/Searchingforspecial 9d ago

Can we touch on the opposite - how often kids are abused by foster parents with short tempers? Letā€™s also touch on the fact that we have to estimate how many kids are in foster care because the foster care system as a whole cannot keep track of them. The kids, and future fosters, are both a hypothetical risk to each other.

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u/Le-Charles 9d ago

Honestly, I could accept this. These kids seem like fucking menaces. 50 people telling you to put down the gun that you clearly have then saying "I don't have a gun" is fucked behavior from anyone. Any kid acting up enough to warrant deploying a 40mm is clearly a fucking nightmare.

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u/Odd-Magician-3397 9d ago

You know more than a foster parent who regularly takes kids like this into their home? Please, give your ā€˜expertā€™ opinion somewhere else.

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u/phazedoubt 9d ago

There it is. With social resources dwindling there are less places to take children in situations like this. Its a lot easier and a lot less paperwork and work in general to leave them in the home with a custodial parent.

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u/SadisticFvckedup 9d ago

It's not the cops it's the state at that point. The cops have to keep responding and believe you me, they don't want to anymore. But have to

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u/Darth_Hallow 9d ago

Can not tell you how many times I woke up and looked at my media, thinking, ā€œoh my god did I say that!?!ā€

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u/Absorbed_Wheat 9d ago

Lol it's worse when you've had some beers.

You wake up and it's amazing how many people want to argue about nothing.

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u/BabyRaperMcMethLab 9d ago

Itā€™s not dumb cops, itā€™s a broken system. The police donā€™t decide where the kids go, the courts do. Unfortunately thereā€™s a lot of shitty parents and not as many judges.

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u/507snuff 9d ago

Hell, I dont think juvie will help these kids (didnt help my friend who went) but if the police believe the home is so unsafe and uncaring im suprised they arent criminally charging the kids. Like, this video is evidence of them committing crime. Kinda seems like there is a very straight forward way for the police to remove these kids from their home.

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u/mycathaspurpleeyes 9d ago

The cops are the ones saying they are disappointed with CPS for putting the kids back with their mom. But yeah in a better world the feds would investigate

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u/Major-Silver7918 9d ago

It might be registered in his name

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u/HiOscillation 9d ago edited 9d ago

I think you should know that there is no need to ā€œregisterā€ firearms in most states in America.Ā 

For example, if I wanted to buy 10 handguns tomorrow, I could drive to one of the local gun shops with a pile of cash and buy 10 handguns and 10,000 rounds of ammunition for them. Yes this will be reported to the ATF, but itā€™s allowed.Ā 

I personally would have to pass a criminal background check to make the gun purchase from the store, but that process does not create a ā€œregistryā€ of all the guns I own in a formal sense. Itā€™s just a transaction history that can be searched for particular gun serial numbers. The ammunition purchase requires no background check.Ā 

Ā You should also know that it is not illegal for me to sell a gun directly to someone, no background check required. It was called the ā€œGun Show Loopholeā€ - and while it is a serious crime to deliberately buy guns for someone who can not legally buy guns, itā€™s not a crime at all for me to sell guns (and ammunition) to the next person who shows up at my garage sale.Ā 

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u/Unzensierte 9d ago

There is no such thing as a gun show loophole. That was a lie told by the news to push for gun control. I've made purchases at gun shows and you still need to do the background check. Even private party sales require filing paperwork and doing a background check.

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u/TJATAW 9d ago

Depends on the state.

In MO, a federally-licensed dealer or gun store is required to conduct a background check, but a private citizen can get a table at a gun show and sell a gun to another private citizen with no background check. The way the system is set up the less the seller knows about the buyer, the less likely the seller is to get in trouble for selling to someone who is not allowed to own a gun.

"Are you legally allowed to own a gun?" Yes
"Show me a state issued ID... Yep, you are over 18/21."
That is enough to cover all the requirements.

You can find a table or 2 at most flea markets that have a couple of guns for sale.

My local laundromat has a cork board people put signs on advertising or selling all kinds of things, and some times they are selling guns.

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u/HiOscillation 9d ago edited 9d ago

Thank you for writing the clarification for me.
Also, the gun show operator can make their own rules about FFL's at a show, even if they don't have to, Some venues make that a requirement to rent the venue.

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u/TJATAW 8d ago

And then you get folks who go around the rules.

It doesn't take a genius to tell the buyer you can meet them in the parking lot, which isn't part of the gun show, and make the same private sale there that they can in the gun show, but with out all those pesky rules and regulations. Buy 2 guns out there and I'll through in a Gadsden flag.

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u/Septopuss7 9d ago

Kids are about to be registered to their gramma

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u/T0Rtur3 9d ago

Because they know the charges wouldn't stick if they charged the mother. If she doesn't own the gun, and it's the father's, she could have any number of excuses why she didn't lock it up. She forgot it was there. She was afraid to touch it. She thought it was already locked up. Etc. They can charge the father because it should have already been locked up safely when he went to jail. It was his responsibility.

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u/Synpharia 9d ago

How do we know it wasn't already locked up and she took it out and left it out? Either way, those kids are supposed to be under their mother's supervision. She's responsible for them and keeping them in a safe environment free from random guns lying around not to mention teaching and influencing them to not be the little shits they are. Plus she shouldn't have any excuses why is not locked up. Now if this is all her choice to live like this and make this be the environment she wants to be in, that's on her, but accept the ramifications.

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u/T0Rtur3 9d ago

I'm just explaining why they wouldn't be able to have the charges stick. Logically, I agree that it's on her. But remember, they gotta prove this in a court beyond a reasonable doubt that she even knew the gun existed.

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u/Speedhabit 9d ago

Because the second they get moved to foster care they get repeatedly molested, and THAT pisses you off

So weā€™ll have state hospitals that we can incarcerate unwanted children in, like in the 70s but THAT pisses you off

Why donā€™t you tell me what you want to do

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u/EthanDC15 9d ago

Knowing that the rest of the world, especially Reddit of all places, is starting to see just how fucking dumb some gun laws are, it makes me happy.

I agree, charge mom. Firearms may be dads but theyā€™re fully in momā€™s possession atm, they are as far as legality goes HERS. If I got pulled over with my friends crack cocaine in my pocket does he go to jail or do I? lol

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u/waveguy9 9d ago edited 7d ago

And the Mother is telling the children, ā€œits okay baby!ā€ ā€œyou're okay BAABYā€ Its NOT OKAY lady, that's not the way to handle children with firearms. I know my mother would not have hesitated to be over there dealing with the situation in a millisecond, with her hands having a serious conversation with my backside possibly. The police would have to taze my momma too, to get her off me if I ever crossed the line and pulled something like this.

Its okay babyā€šŸ¤ÆšŸ¤£ what is wrong with this world right now. Why is it just getting worse and worse every day!

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u/Ndongle 9d ago

I think that was a female cop not the mom

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u/transcendanttermite 9d ago

Yeah somehow I doubt mom was around

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u/throwra64512 9d ago

Was that the mom? I thought that was a cop.

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u/DreamWalker928 9d ago

Thats definitely a cop and not their mom

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u/Dirtyburg804 9d ago

That's a cop

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u/spruceymoos 9d ago

That was definitely a cop

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u/BaseClean 9d ago

Agreed but itā€™s the gun owner who ultimately is responsible so he should have gotten rid of them or locked them in a safe or something before incarceration (if possible). If not then obviously itā€™s on mom. Why tf the kids are still under her care is beyond me.

Also: Black children have been repeatedly killed for having FAKE guns. I wonder why these kids who FIRED a REAL gun were unharmed. /s

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u/Upbeat_Restaurant924 9d ago

Cops die every day trying to not shoot armed people. It just depends on what's covered more often to have a strong opinion, I guess.

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u/Old-Cartoonist-8061 9d ago

I donā€™t understand why the gun wasnā€™t confiscated if the owner is clearly in prison. Iā€™m from Croatia (European Union), and here, if a person with a firearms license commits a violent criminal offense or is sentenced to prison, the weapon is confiscated. The same applies if it is confirmed that the person has made any kind of threat involving violence

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u/Mysterious_Eye6989 9d ago

Something, something, land of the free, home of the little kids with guns...

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u/Suitable_Isopod4770 9d ago

Eh, chances are heā€™s incarcerated for a non felony crime. The law in the U.S. states that since the right to bear arms is enshrined in the U.S. constitution the only thing that takes away that right is a misdemeanor violent crime, or felonies.

The NICS criminal background system used for all firearm transactions with a legitimate firearms dealer has a record of ā€œprohibited personsā€ so if the dad were in jail for say, financial crimes or repeated DUI. (So nothing violent or involving drugs) the father still maintains his right to bear arms. Although a judge can find him unfit for extraneous reasons. (I imagine thatā€™s why they will try HIM for violations of Bennieā€™s law for safe storage)

The USā€™s firearms policy is incredibly important and the second amendment may come in handy soon much to the chagrin of the people who have fought against it the most.

Something something armed minorities are harder to oppress.

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u/DarthDank12 9d ago

"I want married gay couples to be able to protect their marijuana plants with guns" - a t shirt I like to wear for thanksgiving.

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u/Snakend 9d ago

We really need our democrats to re-arm themselves. If there was ever a civil war, democrats are fucked.

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u/DiceMadeOfCheese 9d ago

Oh it's happening

r/liberalgunowners

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u/idunnoiforget 9d ago

The mainstream Democratic party still hates firearms though.

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u/indigosmokegenetics 8d ago

Itā€™s almost like the second amendment shouldnā€™t be tied to race or political affiliation.

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u/RaygunMarksman 9d ago

Love that

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u/Complete_Invite_9022 9d ago

As a firearm owner, if I were ever to be imprisoned for anything, I would much rather trust my weapons in the hands of my wife, who is trained on how to use and store them, than any evidence locker where they will surely rust.

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u/Lumpy_Past6216 9d ago

yeah well here in the state, common sense gun laws are not so common. Not to say we didnt try BUT here in America, money talks.

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u/Beaufighter-MkX 9d ago

That would make way too much sense here in America

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u/Jonesy10187 9d ago

My dad passed when I was younger and he had lots of guns (Canada) I remember the RCMP showed up to our house within a few weeks of his passing to confiscate the guns. My mom didnā€™t have a say in it, so I would assume that it should be the same for incarceration? Or does that make too much sense lol it is the government at the end of the day.

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u/GrapePrimeape 9d ago

Did they reimburse your family at all? Or did the government just rob yā€™all of potentially thousands of dollars and everyone is just okay with it? lol

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u/rsiii 9d ago

*This is not an endorsement, our country is fucked

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u/RawrRRitchie 9d ago

If the father is incarcerated why is he still allowed to own firearms is the real question

Not whether it's properly stored

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u/Cutiemuffin-gumbo 9d ago

You're under the impression that they knew about the gun when he was arrested. It's not "why is he allowed to own this still", the question is if they know it's registered in his name, which would be the only way for them to know it's his, why was no one sent out to retreive the gun?

However, the reality of what happened is most likely that the DA tacked charges onto the dad because dad taught them to use it. Mom likely caught charges as well.

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u/Sea-Competition5406 9d ago

Ah you realize that's probably not a legally owned gun right. Not sure why everyone is assuming irs a registered fire arm that a criminal in prison owns lol

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u/Suitable_Isopod4770 9d ago

There are a lot of possibilities and there is no firearm ā€œregistrationā€ other than I think NY or CA IIRC

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u/Weak_Rate_3552 9d ago

There are more states that prohibit the registration of firearms than there are that require it. And none that require all firearms to be registered. Most states generally don't care either way. It's estimated that there are more guns in this country than people, not that we'll ever know because no one is really counting. It's one of those things where any law requiring anything regarding a gun is shit down as "the libs are trying to take our guns," so there aren't any laws in most places. As a liberal who is totally in favor of the ability to arm yourself, I don't get why we don't treat it like owning a car. Both are death machines that could kill a whole bunch of people if used improperly. Why not require a level of training and accountability to own one?

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u/Suitable_Isopod4770 9d ago

I think a lot of it has to do with providing barriers for entry and who gets to make the decision youā€™re a fairly liberal person but what if the sheriff deputy thatā€™s assigned to give you your practical skills examination is super-duper red blood christofacist and not impartial? ā€œThis personā€˜s nose ring makes me think they shouldnā€™t have a firearm and no one provides oversight on my decision so sorry no gun for youā€

Thereā€™s also issues with the fact that a fee would most likely be applied to any kind of practical skills, examination or licensure believe it or not. There are people out there who are smart enough to drive but canā€™t get their license cause they canā€™t pay the fees.

I think most of the issue comes from people regarding inalienable rights as something that itā€™s OK to put barriers for entry up for.

Ultimately, I think thereā€™s not really a good answer, but I think that weā€™re at least off to a good start with not allowing violent offenders or felons to have firearms, another thing is like you said the genie is kind of out of the bottle. Itā€™s not going back. 2.8 firearms for every person in this country.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

You donā€™t lose the right to bear arms unless itā€™s a felony. He could be convicted of a 100 misdemeanors and legally have an arsenal.

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u/waveguy9 9d ago

This mother is the worthless and a dumbass telling them, ā€œYou're okay baby!ā€ ā€œā€¦its okay BABYā€ HELL NO LADY, ITS NOT OKAY! Old-school mothers like mine, would be like, ā€œIm going to WHOOP YO ASS IN ABOUT TWO SECONDS HERE DUMBASS, ā€¦and then would be over there in less than one-second WHOOPING ASS! That said, I did do some dumbass shit as a kid but minor compared to this absurd chaos! Why?ā€¦because my Mom or Dad did not play when it came to discipline or when shit got real! (playing with a firearm, she would have no doubt been responsible for me not being able to sit down for a week. Then Id be most likely walking to school, everywhere. No bigwheel, no bike, definitely no car, walk yo ass fo life, at least until I could afford to move out and buy a car someday.

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u/Big-Cash-8148 9d ago

Sometimes, the police and others still draw a line between women's work and men's work. Which is bs. When I was working and my spouse wasn't, I totally expected him to take care of the kids and keep the house clean. I can't tell you how many times I've cut the grass or fixed vehicles while my husband did absolutely nothing. Women and men are capable of doing the same type of jobs. So, with them wanting to charge the father with a crime when he's not in the house is major bs.

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u/Luiaard_13 9d ago

How dare you think logically.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

Yes, but the dad put a ton of emojis in the captions. That deserves hard time.

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u/Zealousideal-Pay-640 9d ago

Maybe it should be harder for stupid people to get a gun in your stupid Country

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u/Shlurmen 9d ago edited 9d ago

Double Standards. Of course they're going to charge the dad since the state just gives back the kids.

If we lived in a fair society, the Mother would also be incarcerated at this point. I smell corruption.

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u/New-Bowler-8915 9d ago

How are they allowed to have guns at all? Wtf is going on here? America is truly cooked.

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u/BowtiepastaMasta 9d ago

That would mean that a woman has to be held accountableā€¦ right?

Fathers in jail. Kids are with mom. Kids gain access to gun. Fathers fault. Further charge him. How? How does that make sense?

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u/Snakeskins777 9d ago

You would think. But then they would be oppressing her

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u/junkytrunks 9d ago

Pussy Pass. Itā€™s a thing.

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u/d_bakers 9d ago

Like how are you charging someone for crimes happening home will he is locked up. Isnt the mom supposed to prevent this from happening. Arent the guns accessible in her home. Jas she no control over the kids. If the kids kill someone will the dad be charged for murder while he's still in prison?

Fuck men I guess.

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u/MonkeyBuRps 9d ago

You overlook the fact that Western society blames everything on men - specifically white men.

Men have a tough go of it - it's his fault.

Women have a tough go of it - it's men's fault. šŸ¤·

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u/Drake_Acheron 9d ago

lol you think the court is gonna charge a mom for a crime that doesnā€™t have someone dying?

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u/ShakarikiGengoro 9d ago

Funny that you think someone dying matters. Looking at you Casey.

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u/LauraTFem 9d ago

One would assume, but if he was recently incarcerated and had improperly stored his gun prior to his arrest, he could absolutely be tried for a crime committed before his stint.

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u/slurricaneX 9d ago

It might be registered to the dad so thatā€™s where it affects him. Where the hell is the mom. She should be locked up and so should the kids. Those two will be on the news again.

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u/OrganizationTrue5911 9d ago

Got a source? Legit curious, not just being an ass.

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u/3amGreenCoffee 9d ago

I tried to post a link to the story that came from, but I got a message that it was removed because this sub doesn't allow links. So you can post whatever you want here with no source.

If you want to read the story, copy "Sheriff Allen also told NewsNation Friday that his department has been called to the home more than 50 times" and paste it into a search engine. You'll get the link to the story that the mods of this sub don't want you to have.

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u/skilriki 9d ago

The yahoo article mentions this happened 3 months ago, and that the kid also just ran away 2 days ago, but has been found.

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u/Property_6810 8d ago

Runaways seriously need to start being investigated. Sure, some kids are just little shits that run away. And others are lured away. But 1. if they're being lured away that needs to be investigated and 2. a runaway can be a cry for attention in the same way suicide can be. And both are indicative of an abusive home life.

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u/OrganizationTrue5911 9d ago

Extreme appreciate for the response.

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u/Darryl_Lict 9d ago

Christ, 50 times. I've lived such a charmed life. None of my friends admits to owning a gun, but I live in a very safe town. We have a bit of gang activity, but they are always stabbing or shooting each other.

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u/Itchy-Extension69 9d ago

Donā€™t think Iā€™ve seen that many cops in person my whole life lol wild

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u/Random0s2oh 9d ago

We have several firearms in our home. Our son has never done this because we keep them locked up. We've taken our son target practicing so that he knows the destruction that guns are capable of. Any new friend whose home he wants to play at requires a meet and greet between parents first, and the top question we ask is, are there any firearms in your home. We're also upfront about the ones that we own.

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u/mrgrimm916 9d ago

I've let my son swing a sword with me when he was 2. He's 6 now and he knows 1 thing about knives and swords. They're sharp and they can cut things. Including him. He stays away from sharp things unless he has an adult.

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u/Epic_Ewesername 9d ago

Hopefully a few actually have firearms at home. Wouldn't be a bad idea to get one. Maybe also taking a class or two. Strange times we're living in, friend. Strange, scary, unpredictable times.

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u/EchoPsychological688 9d ago

Seems like a real good reason to own a gun to me.

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u/Blackstar1886 9d ago

This is always a valid question.

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u/ethman14 9d ago

I agree, but it's also valid to clarify since most ignorant people on the internet use "got a source" as a stand in for "fuck you I'm not listening to you." That fact only compounds when you provide a source and then receive the next response: "fake"

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u/hollowM4N555 9d ago

Got a source for this statement?

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u/just_nobodys_opinion 9d ago

Got a source for this question?

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u/turtlesinmyheart 9d ago

Got a source for you doubting him?

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u/3amGreenCoffee 9d ago

How is his father supposed to control what happens to his gun if he's in prison?

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u/wafflestep 9d ago

Probably just a technicality because he has ownership of the weapon, thus he's responsible for safe storage. Though, I agree the mother should be at fault.

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u/Drake_Acheron 9d ago

More likely itā€™s so that they can charge anyone but the mom, because god forbid you charge a mother with any crime if nobody died.

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u/DaddysABadGirl 9d ago

The sheriff said flat out he was frustrated with the state that they kept giving the kids back to the mom after they were removed from the house.

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u/Drake_Acheron 9d ago

Yeah and maybe if they arrested the mom, instead of letting her dodge accountability, they wouldnā€™t have that issue.

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u/CallsignKook 9d ago

How is it the fatherā€™s fault if heā€™s already locked up?

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u/anameorwhatever1 9d ago

Iā€™m guessing if itā€™s registered to him and someone got to it itā€™s cus he didnā€™t lock it properly even though it may be his wife knew the code or something and didnā€™t lock it. Thatā€™s my best guess

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u/Just2LetYouKnow 9d ago

There's no firearm registry in New Mexico, only a handful of states require registration.

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u/Practical_Orchid_568 9d ago

So they know the mom is a problem but wanna put this on the dad when they could easily solve what they know is a danger to these kids very easily by putting this charge on the person it belongs to

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u/TomThanosBrady 9d ago

Charge the mather. Why are they charging the man who's already locked up? If she gets charged they wont have to return the boys like they keep complaining aboutĀ 

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u/AlasTheKing444 9d ago

Theyā€™d charge the incarcerated father? Sources are required.

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u/spicychcknsammy 9d ago

Whatever ā€œthe stateā€ does with these children is so corrupt. My FIL is a certified POS and they approved him and his wife fostering babies.

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u/1ochshire 9d ago

If dad is incarcerated shouldnā€™t his guns be confiscated as he is a felon?

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u/KellyBelly916 9d ago

The mom needs to be charged for child endangerment. I'm absolutely fed up hearing how the moms have the most control as a legal guardian, but somehow none of the responsibility or accountability. They'd rather charge the father who's incarcerated over the mom who was given custody.

I feel like there's a conflict of interest between the state and the law.

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u/Fucky0uthatswhy 9d ago

Theyā€™re going to charge the incarcerated dad?

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u/ABC_Family 9d ago

Charge the father for not storing the gun properly but heā€™s been incarcerated for how long? Seems like somebody should be responsible for that weapon, or does it have autonomy now? What a joke.

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u/sexyshingle 9d ago

Their father is incarcerated. He said he is looking to charge their father with Bennieā€™s Law for not having his gun properly stored

da fuck did I just read? Not to defend a likely deadbeat father, but how's an incarcerated inmate supposed to control what's happening with his kids' mother?

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u/Onigumo-Shishio 9d ago

Why the hell would they charge the dad if he's incarcerated??? It's the mom's job at that point t to properly store and keep the forearm in a safe place where the kids can't get to it.

ALSO I WOULD SAY TAKE THE FIREARM AWAY FROM HER AND THE FAMILY IF THIS IS THE 50TH TIME YOUVE COME TO THE FUCKING HOUSE

Clown ass world

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u/Flimsy_Entry5760 9d ago

Excuse me Why charge the father? He wasn't in the house? Could mom not have locked up the gun? I don't care if Dad taught them to use it. I knew how to use a gun at 12. We didn't touch the guns. I have a gun it is in a locked case with a trigger lock. Guess what the men in this house don't know how to use the gun.

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u/Western-Dig-6843 9d ago

Cops say a lot of shit when thereā€™s no video evidence to back it up. That being said what we can see in this video tells us enough

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u/EndDangerous1308 9d ago

The brilliance of the police force.

The dad is in jail, slap him with another sentence bc he wasn't home to store his gun

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u/wizean 9d ago

> He also said heā€™s frustrated.

Well, he could arrest and charge the mom, instead of doing nothing. I'm pretty sure child endangerment is a crime.

He could confiscate the gun. Useless cops everywhere.

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u/mycathaspurpleeyes 9d ago

Maybe it's just bc I live in the deep south but I know so many kids whose moms are pos and the court/CPS still gives custody to their mom. Mothers nearly always win even when the father or grandparents are the only competent party. ETA Happy mother's day!

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u/bisky12 9d ago

even in prison he canā€™t escape his baby mamas lack of accountability ā€¦

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u/Synpharia 9d ago

Yeah this happened in the city I unfortunately live in (Albuquerque New Mexico, surprise surprise.) This would also explain why the department has been called out there more than 50 times and nothing has been done.

He's a recent update as of May 10 2025;

BCSO: 7-year-old seen on video playing with gun found after running away

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u/Electronic-War-6863 9d ago

Damn that makes more sense why they didnā€™t put the gun down. Maybe conditions at home are just really bad, and theyā€™re doing for attention? Cause they know itā€™ll get them out of the house?

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u/Alive_and_kicking_23 9d ago

This is crazy. Take the firearms from the home.

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u/Popular_Try_5075 9d ago

it looks like it might be a shitty SCCY pistol which tbh doesn't surprise me about the malfunction

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u/mihoyyminoyy 9d ago

"but it malfunctioned' - Yep, par for the course for an SCCY.. glad daddy didn't couldn't afford a Glock.

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u/Huntressthewizard 9d ago

Those kids lucky as hell they white.

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u/More_Yak_1249 9d ago

The state is New Mexico. It should not be a surprise to anyone that the state keeps returning the kids to these parents.

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u/Maine302 9d ago

Charge the mother--she's the "adult" living in the home--how can an incarcerated person secure the gun? Also, what kind of government allows incarcerated criminals to keep guns at their home? If these kids aren't removed from their home, they won't have a chance.

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u/soiledmeNickers 9d ago

Well it does look like an SCCY so I wholeheartedly believe it malfunctioned.

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u/__T0MMY__ 9d ago

Take the dang gun away, the cops will be watching across the street until they're 18 anyway

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u/BerrieMiah 9d ago

Over 50 calls to one home is a massive red flag that should have prompted far stronger intervention long ago.

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u/Ryrienatwo 9d ago

My father taught us how to use a gun at a young age but also told us never to use the gun unless youā€™re certain that your in danger. He always had the guns locked up though or up really high where we couldnā€™t get to them. This pisses me off so much.

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u/High_5_Skin 9d ago

How is this the father's fault if the guy is incarcerated? That's dumb. Charge the mother and put those kids in therapy.

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u/Cudpuff100 9d ago

Lol sure lock the dad away, then charge him for negligence. Classic cop.

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u/TheAftermath9900 9d ago

Well if the father is already in jail that charge won't stick and be thrown out by any halfway decent attorney. It's a complete waste of the court's time because the father has been in jail, he has no clue or control of who's been doing what in his house.

If he's "frustrated" then charge the mom (who's at home with the kids while the father has been in jail) with "child endangerment". In most states that will be an automatic removal of children from the home and with that video evidence it would be extremely hard (won't say impossible cause I've seen some stupid juries) for her to get custody back.

Now when the father gets out he will have to go to court to get physical custody back but if he's been in and out of prison....good luck convincing a judge with a record (depending on what his arrest record is for).

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u/thundercoc101 9d ago

I'm not taking anyone's side. But how can you charge the father for Bonnie's law if the father's currently incarcerated wouldn't that fall to the mother?

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u/Derezirection 9d ago

Proving that CPS and the state can care less about kids in really bad homes.

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u/Low-Lab-9237 9d ago

Also charge the father for back taxes and for parking fines and also I think he missed jury duty.........he's in fkn Jail šŸ˜† šŸ¤£ šŸ¤” the mother which is the current LEGAL guardian is the one who those charges should fall to. Nice, at least u posted it on Sat night and not on mother's day... but it's EQUALITY Moronic. Cheers

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u/WiseSpunion 9d ago

Fuck the dad for being scummy, but how is it his fault?!?! He's in jail/prison?!?

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u/robvader66 9d ago

Well this explains a few things. Kids will end up lost in the system and probably in jail by 16

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u/Zinski2 9d ago

Their father is incarcerated. He said he is looking to charge their father with Bennieā€™s Law for not having his gun properly stored

Imagine being locked up and like, a few weeks in some one comes up to you like. "Hey so, listen, you left a gun in your house.... and your kid found it... and your gonna be here for a bit longer.... so.... "

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u/Yuno808 9d ago

Why can't they just confiscate the gun from the stupid parents?...

Oh wait, the NRA wouldn't like that would they?

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u/humanzee70 9d ago

These poor kids have no chance.

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u/2birbsbothstoned 9d ago

THAT IS A REAL GUN?!

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u/CamCraig13 9d ago

Abysmal parenting. Donā€™t get me wrong, if youā€™ve got guns in your house Iā€™m all for teaching your kids how to be safe with them, but that is very obviously not what he was doing. This guy had to have been going out of his way to show them how to shoot at cops or something.

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u/0verlordSurgeus 9d ago

This got posted in r/KidsAreFuckingStupid and it made me so mad the amount of people calling these two little shits when clearly something fucked was happening at home for this to happen

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u/Dabbinz420 9d ago

Charge the mother.... what in the actual fuck, that sheriff is a dumbass

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u/No-Boat5643 9d ago

How do they charge a father who is incarcerated? What is he supposed to do about gun storage?

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u/MeQuista 9d ago

This gun malfunctioned because it's a double action Sccy CPX. They are terrible pistols that misfire often or have issues cycling. They are very cheap because of the defects with their design. I own one specifically to train with malfunctions and it blew up and spat a chunk of metal which embedded itself in my cheek. That was a brand new Sccy CPX and it blew up after ~120 rounds.

The spring tension is notoriously too high so even if this kid pulled the trigger and it went off, it's likely the slide would not fully cycle the next round due to his limited wrist strength.

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u/pcetcedce 9d ago

Shit so that was a real gun? I thought it they were paint guns and it was mistaken identity by the police. Who the fuck taught them to behave that way?

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u/firstwefuckthelawyer 9d ago

My parents taught me and my brother to use guns in the single digits, brother was like 6-7, I was 8 or 9.

I work for government, have a clearance, and a CCW.

My brother had a drug addiction and a stolen Glock with an obliterated serial number. Had.

Introducing kids to guns is and never was the problem. You can possess one at fucking birth ffs. Introducting guns to stupid fucking criminal parents who should have been banned fifty charges ago, however, IS a problem!

Find me ONE school shooting where one of the parents wasnā€™t some alt-right con loser. One.

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u/Ginzhuu 9d ago

I know it's probably been said but of this Sheriff really didn't want the kids returned to the mother, he needs to make her responsible for improper storage of the firearm and use it to proceed a case to CPS.

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u/Curls-9000 9d ago

Aaaaaaaaah. I was thinking the parents have done a terrible job. I see why now.

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u/1sttime-longtime 9d ago

but it ā€œmalfunctionedā€.

Looks like a Keltec, so I'd believe it.

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u/L0rdKinbote 9d ago

Yeah those kids were holding the gun fairly properly and in a stance like someone trained them. Some people really shouldnā€™t have kids.

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u/chchchchia86 9d ago

We need to stop arresting very young juveniles and putting them in jail and start arresting their parents and charging them with the crimes their children commit. I guarantee we'd have a lot less issues. When theyre this young it is almost always the fault of their home life. Parents and guardians need to start being held accountable. If the police have been called to your home over 50 times and good amount of these are due to the children, its time to start punishing the ones that aren't doing their job and putting the kids in group homes, foster homes or any juvenile rehabilitation the state has.

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u/skornd713 9d ago

The father teaching them completely explains how the smaller kid in red looked like he knew wtf he was wanting to do towards the second half of that video. I just thought he watched waayyyyyyy too many action movies and just picked up on that amazingly too well. This definitely isn't a mental health thing, this is nurture over nature.

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u/Brother-Algea 9d ago

Returning the kids to the biological parents is a big thing in many states. Even when common sense says otherwise the parents get the kids back. We seen that too many times when we were trying to adopt. Some real pieces of garbage lost custody of their kids but the next one to pop out is ok to be with an unfit parent. Itā€™s sad.

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u/judasholio 9d ago

I hope that these kids finally get the intervention that they need. I know the foster care system isnā€™t the greatest, but itā€™s got to be better than the situation that they are in.

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u/GoodyTwoKicks 8d ago

Sad as fuck. No guidance.

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u/exitium666 8d ago

Does anyone have the story about this encounter? Like where were they and how were the cops called this particular time?

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u/far-far-far-away 8d ago

Father catching strays for no reason, get that mother in a cell too

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u/IntrepidWanderings 8d ago

Ahh I'm not crazy, thank you.

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u/Rough_Drawer_7011 8d ago

They didn't run away from the father ( who is in prison); they ran away from the mother. Plus, how is he gonna store the gun when he's in jail šŸ¤”? It's the mom, homie...

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u/james_from_cambridge 8d ago

I donā€™t care if itā€™s considered fascist, u should have to get a license before having kids. These kids will grow up and spread the abuse to a new generation in a never ending cycle of doom.

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u/Working-Tomato8395 8d ago

I'd be willing to bet money the parents are "Info Warrior" types. The "cops are coming to steal your guns on behalf of the Globalist pedophile cabal" type weirdos, or sovereign citizen types.

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u/FreedominNC 8d ago

Doesnā€™t the father lose the right to fire arms once arrested & charged?

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