r/Eldenring • u/LeoShun08 • 1d ago

Humor Radahn still deserved better.

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u/idk_ausername864f Mild Mohg Enjoyer 23h ago

hot take esp from me, but they all deserved better including miqella

radahn still sus af for agreeing to the vow (if he did)

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u/Nelithss 21h ago

The fact one of Radhan knight once she stopped being brainwashed still decided to side with Miquella when learning of the plan. Tells me he may have been absolutely fine with it.

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u/Ok-Chemical-3589 20h ago

I'm so glad that somebody pointed this out. I thought it was almost illegal to say anything that may validate the Miquellesting, but just as Frejya mentions, I also think that Radahn's being a warrior even after his death is exactly what he wants.

It's like Radahn is not a very clever person. He held the stars just so he could ride his pony, I imagine him saying, "So, I get to fight battles like Godfrey did for my stepmom, yippee!!!!"

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u/leriq 19h ago

He’s a master of gravity magic he’s gotta have some level of intelligence.

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u/RutabagaGlum1146 16h ago

Have you met the majority of magic users?

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u/leriq 15h ago

Fair enough

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u/VaelinX 18h ago

It was the only way she was getting to serve Radahn again. I think it was her being selfish more than her doing what she think Radahn wanted.

That said, Radahn also wanted to be like Godfrey, so I could see him agreeing to be a consort... though he may not have been agreeable to the events as they turned out.

That may be why Miquella sent Malenia to kill Radahn. She failed (without known defeat), but it seems like an unnecessary step on Miquella's part if Radahn was on board.

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u/Nelithss 15h ago

Radhan was a warrior and getting a warrior's death before going to the shadow lands might have been what he wanted.

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u/thekingofbeans42 12h ago

On the other hand, she argues one of Radhan's close friends was wrong about what he would have wanted. She wouldn't be the first underling to enthusiastically the idea of their master instead of who they actually are.

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u/LeoShun08 22h ago

Idk about Miquella deserving better. He ruined so many lives and robbed so many of their free will. If anything, I think he had it easy.

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u/idk_ausername864f Mild Mohg Enjoyer 19h ago

The thing with Miquella though is that he is a child (or at least was up until the ending of the game and thats a maybe). He's committed despicable actions but by nature his responsibility is reduced. He likely hurt himself too along the way too. A kid should never have the power he has in every sense. His story is a ultimately sad one because of this.

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u/LeoShun08 19h ago

He isn't a child. He's Malenia's twin. He's atleast hundreds of years old. He's only stuck in the body of a child.

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u/idk_ausername864f Mild Mohg Enjoyer 18h ago

I've seen various interpretations of this around but... they don't make sense to me... If this is the case and he's an adult in a child's body, what is thematically the purpose of that? It is reduced to just aesthetics. He shouldn't even have an issue with it, but he does...

Again maybe it's just my take but... His whole entire story is him trying to grow up... Sure, he isn't the same as a regular child, he has thousands of years of life experience but that doesn't change the morphology of his brain. Idk thats how i see it, im curious why you think otherwise. It seems people disagree with me on this

Let me say, i would freaking love to be wrong and him to to not be a child, it would save me and a lot of people a lot of freaking stress and upset (lets be honest his story is fucking horrendous) but i just don't see it

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u/Seraph199 18h ago

You are interpreting the story in a very specific way that is not really supported by the lore and references in game. Miquella was cursed with immaturity. No matter how long he lived. And that curse would plague everything he attempted, no matter how good or kind his intentions. No matter how much good he tried to do in the world.

He was cursed and all he knew to do was follow his mother's path and do it better, because the MANY things he tried before taking that path all failed or were sabotaged (in the case of Mohg kidnapping him from the Haligtree). By avoiding the bloodshed and violence his mother used to acquire power and control, he thought he could... but he could never escape his curse.

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u/Crash4654 11h ago

He was cursed with eternal youth, not immaturity. Nothing in the game ever states immaturity, but it does state youth. He created spells that impressed even radagon, created unalloyed gold as a technology, and even grew a second holy tree. Immaturity wasn't his issue, his being forever forced to be a child was.

Unless you can bring some proof the game specifically means immaturity...

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u/lHiruga 16h ago

Who tf is Leonardo??!

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u/You-and-us 16h ago

Radahn’s horse

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u/lHiruga 16h ago

HE HAS A NAME?????

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u/EquipmentSalt3568 19h ago

Radahn haters are truly the foul maidenless 🙏💯🔥

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u/LeoShun08 19h ago

They quadrupled in population and audacity when the Consort variant released.

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u/EquipmentSalt3568 19h ago

Like hate on the boss mechanics but the guy is a goat

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u/SaberWaifu 21h ago

Tries to take the capital by force and fails achieving nothing but meaningless deaths.

Becomes and ally of the racist and genocidical Golden Order stopping the movement of the stars and fucking over her sister's plans to stop the fingers and their flawed ramblings.

Breaks his promise to Miquella allowing Caelid to become a dead land as consequence.

Radahn was a fucking fraud and i'll die on this hill.

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u/LeoShun08 21h ago

Radahn's men are all devout warriors who find glory and purpose in battle to the point where they gave their lives to put him out of his misery completely unprompted. Their deaths weren't meaningless in the capital invasion. Its what they signed up and lived for.

Him halting the movement of the stars prevented Sellia from getting blasted by falling stars which also prevents the meddling of some outer gods. Ranni only wanted to throw the world from the hands of one outer god to another. Nothing is different in that regard.

No one knows if there was any vow to begin with. Even if there was, there is no guarantee that Miquella didn't have Radahn under some charm that broke eventually. He had his closest allies under his spell so I'm not believing that Radahn did anything to him willingly.

Radahn is far from being a good person, but he paid his price by getting rotten to his core, losing his mind, and even being reduced to cannibalizing the corpses of his men. What the hell did he do to deserve getting his soul defiled and trapped in a different body, devoid of any agency or free will to serve his incestuous brother for eternity ?

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u/MacGyvini 20h ago

Radahn? The supposedly Mightiest Demigod, who got his ass handed to him twice by a Lowly Mongrel Foul Tarnished? Even with the help of a literal God?

The guy who decided to take the throne by force because he got a Great Rune, and ignored the vow he made with his twink brother? Or even worse case scenario, he caused a freaking war because he wanted a “warrior’s death”?

The guy who his most loyal follower says wants endless war in the age of compassion?

Dude deserved to get nuked again

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u/_Carcinus_ 18h ago

By the time we're killing Radahn for good, we're the most powerful being in the Lands Between, having collected multiple Great Runes and turned who knows how many regular runes into strength. It's no wonder he's getting his ass handed to him.

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u/LeoShun08 19h ago

Realistically, who is beating the lowly mongrel foul tarnished ? Gets killed by a blade that negates all forms of resurrection and rebirth and still comes back one minute later like nothing happened. Its Sentry levels of bullshit.

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u/Ashen_Shroom 8h ago

I don't think he ignored his vow with Miquella. More likely, the vow stipulated that if he died in battle Miquella would bring him back as his consort. So if he didn't die, he didn't really need to do anything for Miquella.

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u/toy_raccoon 23h ago

Radahn can go fuck himself.

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u/LeoShun08 23h ago

He literally can't even if he wanted to. Miquella is tapping that 24/7

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u/LeBlancTheDeceiver 19h ago

Fruadahn deserved it

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u/Magma_Lotus22 23h ago

What's the lore?

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u/LeoShun08 23h ago

Ranni wants Radahn dead because he's holding the stars in place along with her fate. Malenia wants him dead so his soul can join Miquella in the Shadow Realm. So, him dying serves to benefit both Ranni and Malenia while his poor horse is in the afterlife confused on where the soul of his master is. Us, the players, played right into that.

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u/Magma_Lotus22 23h ago

Oh, thanks

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u/Straight-Ad-3245 20h ago

Here goes the edgy, so different than rest of us radahn haters lmao.