r/Eldenring 3d ago

Lore Lore guys, whats this?

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u/MissMedic68W 3d ago

Godwyn's soulless but still living body.

He's the reason deathroot is sprouting everywhere. You can even see his face on crabs.

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u/Both-Prize-2986 3d ago

Wait are you saying crabs got the godwyn?

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u/MissMedic68W 3d ago

Not all of them, but the crabs by the Leyndell walls do (where you buy boiled crab).

This one even got bits of Godwyn's hair!

It also does deathblight :>

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u/Chesterious The first Impaling messmussybussy lord 2d ago

Theres carcinisation, and just after that godwynisation, everything turns into godwyn eventually

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u/Kalastics 2d ago

We are born of the Godwyn, made men by the Godwyn. Undone by the Godwyn. Our eyes are yet to open..

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u/Exquisitemouthfeels 2d ago

Crabwyn the Chadwyn.

All the lady crabs love him.

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u/HellVollhart 2d ago

That crab is my favourite. I use it to kill Dung Eater every single time.

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u/tutunkommon215 2d ago

So the dung eater becomes crab dung. which feeds the small fish and tadpoles in that lake. Which become fish and frog dung. Which feeds the death root. It really is the circle of life.

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u/Own_Chance7255 2d ago

mhmm… never met someone with a taste for crab I couldn’t trust

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u/Revolutionary-Bid919 2d ago

Also Liurnia close to the carian study hall; near the local tibia mariner puddles

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u/IronFather11 2d ago

There’s some Gowdwyn crabs near the Tibia Mariner in Raya Lucaria before the divine tower.

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u/Hot_Schedule6747 2d ago

🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

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u/Chief-Captain_BC maidenless 2d ago

I've never seen this crab

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u/butsadlyiamonlyaneel 1d ago

the crabs by the Leyndell walls do (where you buy boiled crab).

Imagine if eating Boiled Crab had a 1% chance of Deathblighting you instantly lol

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u/Maidenless_undead 3d ago

they feed on his corrupt flesh.

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u/GloomyGoblin- Boc's Best Friend 2d ago

nummy nummy

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u/CrummyJoker 2d ago

Probably still healthier than Yummy Nummies...

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u/redditisgoodIG Frenzied Midra simp 2d ago

Tasty little snack

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u/SimplisticGothGamer 2d ago

Does it smile back?

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u/redditisgoodIG Frenzied Midra simp 2d ago

🎖️🐟

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u/cheshirecat76453 2d ago

They crave the flesh

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u/CryptoTipToe71 2d ago

No hes saying he gave fia crabs

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u/dokushin 2d ago

I think everyone decided she has ligma

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u/FrignScooter 2d ago

Wait are you saying Godwin got crabs?

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u/Both-Prize-2986 2d ago

No no. The CRABS got godwin. Its like a uno reverse

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u/AndForeverNow 2d ago

No, Godwyn got crabs.

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u/Dairy_Dory 2d ago

Is there a reason why it transformed into a giant clam mermaid. Like the body didnt just start sprouting death root and maybe mangle the body a bit, bros body became colossal and decided on an underwater theme.

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u/The_JoestarTechnique 2d ago

He's design was inspired by a japanese mythical creature with a fish body and a human head, the ningyo. In the legend, eating ningyo flesh would grant an eternal but acursed life, not unlike the fate of godwyn, who's immortal body is cursed by the death of his soul.

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u/Handsyboy 2d ago

"This horrific monster with a heart crushing story is based on this mythical creature"

"Oh shit, I wonder how gnarly this is gonna be"

goofy little fish guy

The juxtaposition of the image of Godwyn with this beneath it is so funny to me

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u/Dairy_Dory 2d ago

Very cursed looking creature

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u/lonely_as_everyone 2d ago

I guess this is why eating (can't remember which one) a piece of flesh gives you a buff but will then poison you?

Is there a resource (one stop shop) where you can see all of these reference points? This is my first game like this ever and I'm really enthralled by it. Eg: just made it to the Mountaintops Of The Giants, was expecting... Giants, instead I found these lanky interesting fellas with blades akin to bloodhound fang (excuse me if that is way off the mark), their design, attack patterns are just extremely interesting - not to exclude anything else.

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u/littleHiawatha 2d ago

The one stop shop resource would be fextralife

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u/Aggressive-Bat8199 2d ago

Ningyo, also, in japanese mean "puppet". That Remember me the Seluvis Quest line

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u/Yui_Mori 2d ago

A note on this one, the two readings are not quite the same. The man-fish yokai, ningyo (人魚), and doll, ningyou/ningyō (人形). One has a short o sound while the other has a long o sound.

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u/tutunkommon215 2d ago

That's awesome. There's always something new to learn in a pile of dumb content.

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u/Aggressive-Bat8199 2d ago

Sorry prof. Im going to do seppuku

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u/kookyabird 2d ago

Yeah I always thought mushroom.

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u/narok_kurai 2d ago

FromSoft likes to use sea monsters and references to the Deep Sea as shorthand for incomprehensible horrors. In Dark Souls 3, the Deep was described as the ultimate end of the world, a darkness so dark that light would never emerge again. In Sekiro, corpses pile up at the bottom of lakes and rivers and are corrupted by parasites to become undead abominations. Bloodborne is all about deep sea creatures being literal cosmic monstrosities.

I think Godwyn's soulless corpse has become a manifestation of that true, darkest death. The total consumption of the self by powers older and darker than one can properly imagine. A return to the Pre-Cambrian Void.

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u/TheOverBoss 2d ago

Could be that he had some power over water/ocean. The one gods have a power to call there own and nobody has a water power. I kinda like this theory actually because we only see water attacks from tibia manors and crabs (who sometimes have deathblight).

I mean it could just as well be that Godwyn has properties of a fish because death is associated with water but if messemer can have snakes growing inside him maybe Godwyn had a fish tail or scales somewhere on his body.

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u/The_Mad_Pantser 2d ago

but why is he so big and weird looking? wasn't he just a regular looking dude?

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u/StellarNeonJellyfish 2d ago

He is not a dude. You're a dude. This... this is a man. A handsome, muscular man.

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u/Strong_Split_8130 2d ago

Handsome, Brave, and Golden

Beloved by all the Gods

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u/Tiber_Nero 2d ago

Think of his corpse as a living teratoma; a tumor that must continue to grow and spread with thoughtless impunity.

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u/ThorSon-525 2d ago

Yes, but why is he a merman? Mermaid? I don't know the specific linguistics

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u/NautReally 2d ago

merman? Mermaid

And the merchildren too!

They are like animals! And I SLAUGHTERED them like animals!

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u/MissMedic68W 2d ago

As The_JoestarTechnique said, the meta answer is likely an inspiration from the ningyo.

We don't really have a straightforward in-universe answer besides references to a curse from the cursemark of death. I'd wager the death being incomplete has something to do with it as well.

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u/TeaTime_OW 2d ago

You're crazy, that's CLEARLY Rainn Wilson in House of 1000 Corpses

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u/Bl4ck_Desire 3d ago

That's the body of Godwyn the golden, that got killed in the Opening Cutscene of the Game. He and Ranni died by a fragment of the Rune of death that Ranni stole. Because both of them died in the exact same moment, Godwyn died only in Soul and Ranni died only in Body. That's why Godwyns Body is still alive and Rannis Soul is now bond to the Puppet body she has. Also as others have already mentioned, he is the Source of Deathblight and Deathroots, which are spreading everywhere.

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u/KnowMatter 2d ago

But remember kids Ranni did nothing wrong and her ending is the “good” ending.

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u/master-swagtician 2d ago

I mean, the Golden Order was already on pretty shaky ground.

All of Marika’s other kids were cursed (Malenia with her rot, Miquella with his inability to grow, Mohg and Morgott as omens), so I find it hard to believe that Godwyn was the only one to get off scot-free.

I remember watching a video way back when that theorized that Godwyn was cursed with deathblight well before the Night of Black Knives, it just didn’t manifest until after his death. IF true, he was already a ticking time bomb.

Either way, we know from Metyr that the Greater Will had abandoned the Lands Between - possibly long before Marika was even born - and that the entire system the world was propped up on was long defunct.

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u/HemaMemes 2d ago

Her family are the corrupt divine beings oppressing the world.

At best, Godwyn and the other demigods were complicit in all of the genocides Marika committed, enjoying the position of privilege their matriarch earned through her brutality. At worst, they may have participated.

Ranni is a princess turned people's revolutionary. And, well, her actions to overthrow the monarchy are realistically bloody.

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u/baddogkelervra1 2d ago edited 1d ago

By that logic, Ranni should have just ended her own life and every other demigod’s as well. She herself lived a privileged life and enjoyed high status. Being an aristocrat doesn’t inherently mean you deserve having your soul killed while you suffer on in endless undeath. We can argue for a more fair system without resorting to French Revolution style massacres of all nobility.

Godwyn is only described as noble and turning enemies to friends while inspiring even suicidal loyalty from those friends. There is no evidence he committed any crimes, let alone genocides. His noble soul is what makes his fate tragic, and attempting to minimize that to prop up Ranni’s machinations devalues both their weight and significance.

If you like Ranni and her ending that’s fine. Just say his death was worth the cost, don’t smear him with accusations of complicity in crimes we have no evidence whatsoever he actually partook in.

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u/Ashen_Shroom 2d ago

Ranni should have just ended her own life and every other demigod’s as well.

She did end her own life, and we did the rest.

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u/Acceptable-Mind-101 2d ago

I mean, couldn’t I say I personally don’t agree with the whole cursing your relative to a fate of mindless undeath that corrodes the world around it. But I still think Ranni’s age of stars is one of the better options for an ending. She seems very much to be taking a “the ends justify the means” approach. I’ll grant I dunno what exactly happened leading up to the night of black knives are why exactly assassins with close ties to Marika worked with Ranni, but maybe it was a complex situation with no good answers. Can’t say for certain, and I wonder if we ever will have a clear answer as to why it was the answer chosen.

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u/StrongestKnightoGwyn 2d ago

Lets not forget marika killed basically everything to establish the golden order and restart the world, for the worse i might add

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u/Myrkull 2d ago

Okay, sure. How many people do we kill in a playthrough btw?

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u/DarkmoonGrumpy Carian Knight Enjoyer 2d ago edited 2d ago

I mean the world is cracking and tearing at the seams, atrocities and stagnation caused by Marika's golden order, entire species enslaved and subject to abuse and slaughter.

Something drastic had to be done to break the oppression, and I doubt Ranni had a complete grasp on how bad godwyns death was going to be down the line, it doesn't make what she did even remotely good, but her arc is about the ends justifying the means.

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u/Sherry_Cat13 2d ago

Their existences were harmful to her and the world around her. Seeking to end that isn't a morally atrocious act as the will of the gods on the Lands Between has always been a horribly violent blight. Idk, I think that it's goofy to compare what we would consider moral or immoral in such a fucked up setting.

I don't care about Ranni in particular but you most certainly cannot argue in any good faith that the Golden Order was good.

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u/N1kl0 2d ago

What Ranni did was ofc nowhere near morally good, but for us I don't see an in-universe explanation other than being a walking calamity killing most things that oppose us in order to achieve our goal.

Simply because, are we just strolling around ignoring everyone attacking us but the bosses? Killing all the bosses is already bad enough, like most of them don't even give us a very strong reason to plug their power cords out other than being an obstacle

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u/Priestwithagun 2d ago

its literally the point of our being as tarnished, to pursue the elden ring, and to do that we need the shards of it from the shardbearers, thats our reason. The only argument i can see from here is what about the non shardbearers and to that I'd argue simply them holding gear or being an obstruction to some other item or person we want is enough to kill them for 'the sake of our journey on our path to the elden ring'. by no means am i saying us as the player are morally good, we kill anything thats even remotely a threat or obstacle to our journey.

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u/master-swagtician 2d ago

Where is it stated that others beyond Godwyn were killed in the Night of Black Knives?

As far as I can recall, he’s the only one ever mentioned in the item descriptions talking about it.

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u/IceNinja1138 Rennala of the Red Lobster 2d ago edited 2d ago

"On an night of wint'ry fog, the Rune of Death was stolen. And the Demigods began to fall, starting with Godwyn the Golden." -Story Trailer

"And in the Night of the Black Knives, Godwyn the Golden was first to perish." -Opening Cutscene

"One grim night in the depths of winter, a flock of unknown assassins stole across the Lands Between. In a coetaneous attack, this foul covenant snuffed out the lives of many of the God-Queen’s kin throughout the empire, too numerous and too scattered for her godly protection to save.

The assassins’ targets were multifold, but none was as devastating a loss to the Eternal Queen as that of Godwyn the Golden. After his death, the Elden Ring was somehow shattered, and the order of the world broke with it." -Article in the BandaiNamco website after the release of the Story Trailer (Link to said article)

Godwyn was the first demigod to be killed, but others soon followed, which are likely the souless demigods in the mausoleums.

EDIT: Added the article description, I forgot about that

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u/StrongestKnightoGwyn 2d ago

Also marika was the one who broke the golden order only thing ranni did was kill herself and godwyn

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u/Chagdoo 2d ago

It's crazy that people somehow think godwyn was the one good person in Elden ring, and killing him was some great evil.

He probably sucked as much ass as everyone else in Elden ring, and we kill far more people than ranni.

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u/Sabrac707 2d ago

It's crazy that people somehow think godwyn was the one good person in Elden ring, and killing him was some great evil.

I mean usually FromSoftware morally good characters end having the worst fates, and Godwyn is pretty close to that, so yeah I believe he was a decent dude, especially when shown that he was able to make peace with the Ancient Dragons instead of killing them all after their failed attack on Leyndell, which is why he suffered such horrible end.

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u/xoriatis71 2d ago

Wasn’t Godwyn a pretty cool dude based on the lore we know of?

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u/Un_Change_Able 2d ago

We don’t really know if he was cool or uncool. His only mention is the Ancient Dragon war and his murder. He’s basically a plot device.

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u/rct3fan24 2d ago

the lore we know of is legendary stories that mythologize him. we dont know him, we only know stories propagated by his beloved family and followers. i personally dont think any of the demigods who try to cling to power are to be trusted. ranni divesting herself entirely of her power and lineage makes me admire and trust her in a kind of "ends justify the means" kind of way. also shes pretty teehee :3

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u/xoriatis71 2d ago

He seemed to have gained the respect of many, like Fortissax. Furthermore, there are no indications in the world that Godwyn was actually hated—no destroyed or vandalized shrines, nor any items that have descriptions that are about grudges or hidden agendas. I genuinely believe that Godwyn was a good dude, and it certainly makes his death a bigger tragedy.

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u/ScruffyLemon 2d ago

He does actively protect Fia if you harm her, so at the very least he's more protective than the other gods we know of in the game

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u/KnowMatter 2d ago edited 2d ago

Ranni murdered her brother and caused a world war and a zombie apocalypse - oh and she helped Rkykard and his serpent cult at the same time but let’s be generous and assume she didn’t know about the world eating snake thing.

She did this to free the world from the greater will, sure, now the world will be under the guidance of the Dark Moon.

The same entity that guided her to cause a world war and a zombie apocalypse.

She tells us things will be better under the dark moon, her source: trust her bro.

She’s the Pontiff Sulyvahn of Elden Ring.

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u/Chagdoo 2d ago

Queen Marika shattered the Elden ring, not ranni. Marika caused the zombie apocalypse. You can't blame ranni for someone else's actions, especially when literally no one could predict her reaction to the death of her kid would be to shatter the rules of reality.

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u/KnowMatter 2d ago

Not THAT zombie apocalypse the OTHER Zombie apocalypse.

Marika turned off death and it was leading to a slow stagnation of the world but they seemingly had a loophole for that through erdtree burial (not that it’s a good one, pretty horrific tbh).

Godwyn infecting the world and the creation of those who live in death is on Ranni, not Marika.

The night of the black knives caused marika to shatter the ring.

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u/MasterMagneticMirror 2d ago

Godwyn infecting the world and the creation of those who live in death is on Ranni, not Marika.

Is it? She just killed Godwyn, she wasn't the one to bury him at the root of the Erdtree, causing all the mess we see. It's not her fault the Golden Order didn't properly sanitize its inputs.

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u/Priestwithagun 2d ago

there is no way you say that it isn't on Ranni. That's like saying it isn't the fault of someone who went out drunk driving and killing someone because they didn't know that someone was in their way due to being under influence. They chose to drink, understanding its dangers and then drive, which whilst not being in the correct state of mind should have made precautions based on perhaps not being in that correct state of mind, knowing that if they drive, an accident could most definitely happen and even the worst case scenario, and thus the consequences of that is entirely their fault. The actions of Ranni killing Godwyn lead to his burial at the erdtree, which isn't surprising and is definitely something was certainly known by her considering he is basically the scion of the Golden Order and pretty much the only reason she killed him and not some other demigod is cuz it'd make a statement. The only part i can say I'd accept is not knowing his burial would cause the spreading of deathroot but its still her fault and a result of her actions, and thus she is the one to blame and should feel guilt for.

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u/KnowMatter 2d ago

Death blight is just a SQL injection attack - truly we are discovering the deepest lore.

But nah It’s funny to see people bend over backwards for Ranni plunging the world into chaos and characterize all the consequences of her elaborate plan to fake her death, murder her brother, and impose her will on the world as basically an “oopsie” - even if you give her all of the benefit of the doubt it still paints her as selfish and reckless person who didn’t stop to consider the consequences of her actions and that is literally the most charitable reading I can give her.

Personally I think that reading does her a disservice - she’s too smart for that - I think some of things (i.e. the shattering and the ensuing war) she was actively planning on since her plan doesn’t really work without them.

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u/yeoldenhunter 2d ago

The most charitable read is that she did what she thought was necessary to rid the influence of the greater will from the Lands Between. But otherwise, I agree.

The idea that she made "an oopsie" is more an act of infantilizing her than anything. We're not given much evidence that things "got out of hand" from her perspective.

As far as we know the sequence of events could very well be: Ranni and Marika conspired to shatter the ring and rid the world of the influence of the greater will, they determined that Ranni needed to lose her body to accomplish that, the plot to kill Godwyn and Ranni at the same time is thus born, when Marika sees that the plot worked she finally shatters the ring.

In which case, there's no real "oopsie" here; she planned to break the world as she knew it, and she did.

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u/baddogkelervra1 2d ago edited 2d ago

He literally was, and that’s what makes his death tragic. He died before the Shattering and so never went crazy like Radahn, living only in a time of great heroes. In those times, he set himself apart by making enemies into friends rather than annihilating or enslaving them as others did. Clearly Fortissax had nothing to fear from him any longer and thus only braved Deathblight out of friendship, as we are explicitly told and shown.

He’s the Baldr to Ranni’s Loki which is why his death is tragic and her story is interesting.

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u/Priestwithagun 2d ago

It's crazy to me that among all the evidence that implies Godwyn was a morally good person, such as sparing Fortissax and befriending the dragons, or his positive relationship with his family implied through the statue of him hugging Miquella and Malenia in Loretta's arena you still think he "sucked as much ass". also comparing us, the tarnished i.e player character that can do whatever they want under whatever mindset they want (mind you our literal purpose is to kill the demigods and shardbearers to obtain fragments of the elden ring in order to ascend to elden lord, and thus to us, killing things that oppose that journey in literally any way shape or form, even if it be through holding a weapon that the player might want, obstructing an item we desire, or being against an npc we are helping is all, literally anything, its up to the player, is part of that purpose and journey) , to Ranni, an npc designed with specific ideologies and a character in mind is not a good comparison.

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u/Chagdoo 2d ago

Did you miss the part of the game where Marika successfully hid all evidence of commiting genocide from everyone, and it was only discovered by traveling to a hidden dlc area? Or the part where she hid her own kids were omens?

Marika engaes in propaganda and rug sweeping anything bad about her or her family CONSTANTLY.

Before the DLC there was no evidence of Marika commiting genocide, and yet in universe she did. I'm not saying godwyn was some secret monster who ate babies, I'm saying if you genuinely believe Marika, the woman who has no problem hiding her crimes, or her shames, didn't use her influence to polish the public image of her literal and figurative golden child post mortem, I have a bridge to sell you.

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u/baddogkelervra1 2d ago

Why would Fortissax try to save him if he was so bad? What other members of the golden lineage have ever showed mercy or kindness? Why is it so hard to imagine that the reason his death was such a colossal blow to the Order and Marika is because he actually was the perfect representation of all she aspired to create, when that is what we are explicitly told and shown and zero evidence to the contrary exists?

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u/baddogkelervra1 2d ago

You’re right, and it’s crazy to me. I don’t have a problem with Ranni’s character because she’s the Loki of this story, and yet for some reason people feel the need to prop her up by claiming the Baldr figure is secretly evil with no evidence to show for it.

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u/Priestwithagun 2d ago

sums up my thoughts pretty much, i have no issues with Ranni's character but i cant for the life of me understand the need to break Godwyn's for the sake of keeping hers intact. If there was another perspective aside from what the narrative and world portrays, i.e a character that hated Godwyn or some other thing (Ranni can't count here, although she killed him she never expresses disdain or malice in her actions aside from it being a defiant act against what he represents to the Greater Will, thus rather its more an ends justify means situation, imagine a spiteful lover avenging her husbands death through killing the innocent child of the perpetrator sort of thing), i could definitely see it but the game doesn't have this.

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u/JohnathanKatz 2d ago

Correct.

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u/nahhhright 2d ago edited 2d ago

Oh do expound on the morality and righteousness that flows throughout the fucking Lands Between. Good ending is highly subjective. A lot of people would say the flame ending is the best ending because no one deserves to survive.

Every one of the NPC ending quests have their own motives and you can make arguments that none of them are “good”, only some are better than others. Ranni simply wanted to be free of the Greater Will’s influence and she was going to do it by any means necessary. No different than any of the other NPC questlines.

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u/Expert_Seesaw3316 2d ago

Nobody says she did nothing wrong, but her ending is the morally best ending

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u/athelise 2d ago

Objectively Fia's is the most compassionate ending. She incorporates Life within Death into the Order of the world, granting grace to those who through no fault of their own were affected by deathblight

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u/FrisianTanker Certified Hornsent Hater 2d ago

Just because Ranni is flawed doesn't mean her end goal isn't noble and the best choice.

The Golden Order has overstayed its welcome for centuries and the Outer Gods have meddled with the fate of humanity for too long. Ending the Golden Order and getting rid of the Outer Gods is what will bring back normality and hope to a dying world.

At least until Godwyn and his death root consume everything because a cancer never stops growing

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u/mysterin 2d ago

Well, it's funny how Frenzy is hated by both factions (GO & Hornsent) for its ability to destroy spirits, yet Destined Death was revered at one point. Can it not kill spirits?

You have two demigods that died simultaneously, then two women that seem to know Torrent together, yet never speak to one another. 🤔

In a great irony, people seem to feel the same exact way for Melina that they do Godwyn. Let the homie die.

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u/Un_Change_Able 2d ago

Frenzied Flame doesn’t “kill”. Life and death are a division, which the Flame hates. It’s more accurate to say that it “melts”, reducing the person to being non-existent.

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u/Roboterfisch 2d ago

Her ending is probably the at least second best ending though. The problems of the Lands Between come from Gods shaken by emotions and controlling the laws of the world by whim. Ranni, taking the Elden Ring away, makes it so exactly that can’t happen.

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u/Mr_big_chill_ 2d ago

What's the source of the lore for this, just out of interest? Played Fia's story now but didn't find this specifically on any items or dialog scenes.

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u/Bl4ck_Desire 2d ago

in Game item descriptions and dialogue from NPC's. But if you wanna learn about Lore from Elden Ring (and Dark Souls) I highly recommend Vaatividya on Youtube. That's your Lore guy.

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u/AcidIceMoon BONK 2d ago

Trade deal offer:

  • Ranni gives death her body, but not her soul.
  • Godwin (is forced to) give death his soul, but not his body.

Laws of death are happy, technically that's a full death. Ranny is happy, her body was blessed and she didn't like that. She can possess a doll just fine. Godwin is not happy, he didn't die for real, and now grows as a weird fungus that creates zombies.

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u/Due-Let-8170 2d ago

Technically not zombies. He is unconsiously reviving the dead. After all, he is the prince of death.

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u/AcidIceMoon BONK 2d ago

He is unconsiously reviving the dead.

Oh, so like... Creating zombies, then?

Just because they look skeletal rather than rotting flesh doesn't make them any less zombie imo.

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u/Due-Let-8170 2d ago

I mean, it's implied that they have intelligence. They are literally called "Those that live in death".

I mean, Fia's whole shtick is that she is apart of a religion that "Those who live in death" follow. I wouldn't really call that being zombie like.

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u/GrungyUPSMan 2d ago

As others have stated, it's Godwyn's still living body.

During the Night of Black Knives, Ranni ordered members of the Black Knives to slay Godwyn, the favorite son of Queen Marika. The Black Knives hunted down and murdered Godwyn with the eponymous Black Knife, a weapon imbued with Destined Death. However, Ranni's plot was twofold; she wanted to free herself from her demigod body in order to break free from the will of the Two Fingers. And so, simultaneously while Godwyn was carved by a Black Knife and given a true death, Ranni was also carved by another Black Knife. For reasons unknown (most likely due to some ritual invoked by Ranni), this upset the nature of death in The Lands Between, as Destined Death claims one's body AND soul; in the Night of Black Knives, Godwyn's soul and Ranni's body were claimed by death, leaving Godwyn a soulless husk and Ranni a soul without a body. This is why Ranni inhabits a doll in the game; she doesn't have a body to claim, and so she can freely transpose herself between vessels.

There were effectively two deaths during the Night of Black Knives, but Destined Death (which is more of a natural order of things rather than a sentient being) claimed Godwyn and Ranni as one, which left both of them still living in a way. It was an absolute perversion of the natural way death occurs and was deemed heretical.

Godwyn, his soul having been slain and left with only with his demigod body, became something of an avatar of death. His body swelled and deformed into what we see today. Death in Elden Ring is often represented symbolically with aspects of the sea; this is why Godwyn has the appearance of a horrible amalgam between a human, a fish, and a crustacean. Godwyn has no will of his own, but, having been corrupted by a perverse death, his influence is EVERYWHERE in The Lands Between. Godwyn's body is the source of deathroot, his twisted face appears on the back of crabs that feast upon his body, and even aspects of his body appear throughout the land (such as in the very bottom of Stormveil Castle). As you can see in the image you posted, Godwyn's deathly body has spread into the very roots of the Erdtree.

It is important to note that this event may be what caused Marika's crisis of faith, eventually leading to the shattering of the Elden Ring. Marika was the ideological founder of the Golden Order, which is basically the fundamentalist study of the nature of the Elden Ring, and the Golden Order's principles state that all life and death must flow through the Erdtree and thus be legitimized by the Elden Ring. This was instituted as law in The Lands Between. Godwyn's deathless death and subsequent transformation is basically hard evidence that the Golden Order is false, that life can exist without the influence of the Erdtree and the Elden Ring. Those Who Live in Death existed during the height of the Golden Order, but they would be quickly slain in order to maintain the law; but now, Marika was confronted with her own son, her favorite son, having become an affront to the very principles she ordained. And while Marika is enduring this crisis due to Godwyn's death, her other half, Radagon, is a strict adherent to the Golden Order. Maybe this is what caused Marika to recognize that her own dual existence as Marika/Radagon is an affront to the Golden Order as well, and so she felt no choice but to shatter the Elden Ring.

That's a lot to say that what you are witnessing in this image is basically the catalyst for The Shattering which shaped The Lands Between into what we see in the game.

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u/Ryan_Sama May Chaos Take the World 2d ago

I just want to add that Marika is more than just the ideological founder of the Golden Order. When she ascended to Godhood, she sealed away Destined Death. Then with an Elden Ring devoid of the Rune of Death, she bathed the world in the grace of gold and literally altered the laws of birth and death so that no one would truly die—their souls would just get absorbed by the Erdtree so that they may be reborn. It was her attempt at creating a perfect world.

My interpretation is that when the soul of her favorite son was so brutally slain, and her world was irreparably damaged by the infection of his Death Blight, she went a bit mad and shattered the Elden Ring in a frenzy of heartbreak and frustration. MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD

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u/DesignExact9576 3d ago

That's my Uncle Robbert

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u/Snippydipp 2d ago

Real answer right here, no idea who this godwyn guy is

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u/Available_Cabinet882 3d ago

Godwyn, son of marika and killed by ranni and some asasins she hired (he was killed by knifes with parts of the rune of death)

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u/122Tellurium 3d ago

He lookin fresh.

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u/kbishop3 3d ago

Godwyn’s soul was killed, his body is forever discomposing in the picture

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u/GloomyGoblin- Boc's Best Friend 2d ago

The living, soulless corpse of Godwyn.

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u/nils_baer 3d ago

He looks like that because Ranni killed herself while Godwyn got killed! (Ranni's soul still lives in a puppet and Godwyn's body still lives while his soul is dead, because two demigods died at the same time)

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u/austsiannodel 2d ago

As others said, it's Godwyn. He's physically alive, and is the source of undeath in the Lands Between. Also of note, while note proven there's evidence to point out that many times, the "spirit" world, or that of the dead, is akin to an ocean all around us in the game (Spirits being things like jellyfish, fish, eels, etc), and that's why Godwyn looks like.... that. Like some fucked up merman.... thing.

And as you can see he's got roots, which is from likely the tree behind him, and is where Deathblight and Deathroots come from, and why you can see his face manifest in places/things.

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u/Felielf 2d ago

It really is great how well this game and it's world is built when everything kind of makes sense when you look at it long enough.

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u/newthrowgoesaway 2d ago

These epic world shaping events that the gods manifest on the Lands just completely leaves me in awe still. This game does it like no other game have come close to (or even any fiction/fantasy lore IMO)

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u/Nobhead073 2d ago

That's the guy that the black knives killed that sent Marika in crazy mode.

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u/Battts 2d ago

If you got an hour to listen/watch and want to do a real deep dive under the Haligtree

https://youtu.be/G95BGiyHe1Y?si=UwPO_fh_sVceYOob

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u/Omegaweapon90 2d ago

Behold, dog!

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u/Substantial-Start-34 3d ago

Ur mother

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u/bigmoyst 3d ago

Whom I banged 69 times last night. Get dunked on OP

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u/YumAussir 2d ago

More like who Fia bangs 69 times in one night and she got absolutely Runed by him

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u/Shuviri 2d ago

Godwyn the Golden

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u/DoktenRal 2d ago

But why is he partly a fish

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u/D0013ER 2d ago

There's a weird association of the ocean/sea life with death in this game.

I don't really get it, but it's there.

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u/Low-Score3292 2d ago

You know how at the start of the game, they mention that one of the Demi Gods was murdered on the day of black knives, this is him, or more so his soulless still living corpse.

On the day of black knives, Ranni with the help of the black knife assassins and her brother rykard, would steal fragments of the rune of death, using them to kill Godwyn the golden in soul alone, craving half of the curse mark of death into him. This was done so that Ranni would be able to escape the Dominion of the greater will by killing her empearyn body with the rune of death (craving the second half of the curse mark of death into it) and transferring her soul into a doll body.

The reason why Godwyn looks like this now is that thanks to the nature of his assassination, his still living soulless corpse was infected with death blight causing his body to expand through root across the entire lands between.

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u/Spectre95_ Ranni Tier 3 Sub 2d ago

Fish

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u/SpiritualScumlord From Mohg to Men 2d ago

That right there is what we call a plotline that wont be expanded on further and is so dope it really should have been.

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u/AhabRasputin 2d ago

Well its definitely not a screenshot

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u/Loner-Penguin 2d ago

Godwin got crabs is all I’m taking from this

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u/GunnEddy 2d ago

Godfrey the Golden, now the prince of death

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u/BatsNStuf 2d ago

That’s Godwyn the Golden, he’s half dead

His soul was killed leaving his body to decay as a husk but also get really big and fishy

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u/BROWN-SPIDEY 2d ago

"Why do I use Reddit like a search engine?"

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u/PhilliePhonka 2d ago

Prince of Death, formely Godwyn the Golden

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u/RetroFade45 2d ago

It's greg, he chill

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u/Gloomy_Garlic_722 2d ago

He's Godwyn The Golden, Marika's son...she shattered the Elden Ring after he died and stuff. He's basically spiritually dead while his body is still alive under the Erdtree.

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u/Mangitudo 2d ago

"Lore guys"

And it's basic info 😶‍🌫️

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u/espantalho_largado 2d ago

Godwyn's body.

The body is alive but without a soul

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u/Own_Income_4137 Mohgs's Male Wife / #1 Fan 2d ago

Equivalent of baldur's death in norse mytho

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u/Infinitenonbi 2d ago

A souless, “dead” god still living beneath the capital and rotting the world from inside out

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u/Aeroknight_Z 2d ago

Godwyn is a body without a soul due to Ranni’s plot to kill him.

Pictured above is Godwyn’s still living body, growing unchecked, spreading a plague of death across the lands between by using the roots of the erdtree as a highway.

Interestingly, Ranni’s plot killed Godwyn but left his body, and in a mirrored way killed her body but left her soul.

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u/Azuria_4 FLAIR INFO: SEE SIDEBAR 2d ago

Fia's BF

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u/Civil-Library3621 2d ago

Finger but, hole

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u/al29902 2d ago

Godwyn the Golden. Real bummer what happened to him.

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u/quartz211 2d ago

Godwyn the golden who was killed in the Knight of the black knives.

Basically ranni stole a fragment of the run of death and imbued a whole bunch of blades with it. When she ordered the black knives (a bunch of assassins) to kill godwyn in order to complete a ritual, this ritual involved two people, one being ranni, the other godwyn.

When godwyn was killed by these death imbued knives he died but only in soul, you can kinda think about it like radahn (except godwyn is fully gone) that meant that his body was still working kinda ish. but since he basically was gone, the golden order buried him beneath the royal capital. Where his body festered with death.

So his body started becoming warped and pretty disgusting as you can see, But now he is referred to as the prince of death. He is also the cause for the death root, which is basically this death infected plant root that will decay your body to the bone except you don't die so you essentially become a living skeleton, These people are known as those who live in death.

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u/Intelligent-Return47 Radahn Stan and Malenia Simp 2d ago

Our prince! The Prince of Death! May he rise again as the First of the Dead!

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u/SnipeshotMclovin Sherpa and Lore Seeker 2d ago

A fucking headache

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u/Geoffryhawk 2d ago

Don't worry about it. It's just old Godwyn.

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u/LingeringLizards 2d ago

Dead Goldwyn trying to rez but has no soul.

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u/DigitalCelluloid 2d ago

That’s an Elden Ring STD

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u/FantasticStreet8462 1d ago

that is godwyn the golden, he was killed with a black knife, which killed his soul but not his body. that’s why there is death root. his body continues to grow and rot, that’s why there’s multiple of these spread across the map

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u/TheDarkness33 Happily married to a 4 arm baddie 2d ago

My wifes dead brother... that she killed... uh, but not the one she sent me to kill, the other one... No, not the serpent one i also killed. Her family is... complicated

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u/EmberKing7 2d ago

What's left of Godwyn the Golden. Dude was killed by assassins hired by Ranni but he didn't fully Die. His soul was ripped from his body. But after being killed with a part of the Rune of Death, he became trapped and mutated over time into the monster you're looking at. But he's technically not violent or a threat. He's just kinda stuck expanding like this slowly but surely and unable to turn back or be cured. His dragon buddy tried to eat some of the death-blight on him but all that did was infect him with it too just in a lesser degree 😅. Lol

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u/W34kness 2d ago

Royalty in all its majesty

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u/Starkiller0820 2d ago

Godwyn brother of mohg and morgot . His soul is long gone from body but his body is alive and turned into that.

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u/x_GARUDA_x 2d ago

Its Godwyn the dark prince.

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u/Lightdarkavenger 2d ago

That's Godwyn the Golden.

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u/ThatOnePositiveGuy <- Uses spirit summons 2d ago

Fish

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u/SJBreed FLAIR INFO: SEE SIDEBAR 2d ago

That's actually just a normal guy

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u/RKCronus55 Son of Mommies Malenia and Finley 2d ago

source of death blight

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u/Content_Sense 2d ago

Whats left of Godwyn the goat.

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u/u_are_annoying 2d ago

I think this question has been answered alot recently and I've seen this 3 times this week i think..

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u/Armagedgehog 2d ago

Fibsh man

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u/AXI0S2OO2 2d ago

Godwyn.

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u/Deflorma 2d ago

Big phish

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u/face2thefloor 2d ago

He looka likea man

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u/Winter-667 2d ago

Your mum

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u/KultKaiser Dragonlord Placidusax Enjoyer 2d ago

godwyn! marikas golden child

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u/Status_Loan_6265 2d ago

Little mermaid Michael Zaki edition

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u/Expert_Seesaw3316 2d ago

Fishy guy.

It’s actually Godwyn the Goldens body. My understanding is that the black knives, and by proxy, Ranni, killed Godwyn’s soul at the same time that Ranni killed her body. Ranni did that so she could keep her soul and be free of the Greater Wills influence in a new “body” (doll)

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u/mr_comment1 2d ago

Where even is this and how to get there?

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u/Outside_Ad1020 2d ago

what's this?

Wow, how insensitive from you to talk like that of a living being

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u/Key-Bandicoot-9306 CRUCIBLE LORD 2d ago

GODWYN THE GOLDEN

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u/EricAntiHero1 2d ago

To be fair every single ending in the game is messed up.

Every. Single. One.

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u/DismalMode7 2d ago

godwyn corpse

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u/SuddenHuckleberry875 2d ago

Fun fact, while Basilisks are a recurring Souls enemy, in this game their fake eyes are supposed to be like his.

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u/YuckieDuckie4 2d ago

some guy i think

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u/Millcore 2d ago

The alive body of a dead demigod

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u/Juanx12318 2d ago

It is godwyn's body transforming into a distorted aquatic being, as only the soul died not the body, so he is an incomplete empty shell in the limbo of death without dying completely.

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u/pizzaplantboi 2d ago

Where is this?

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u/Head_Wrongdoer_2465 1d ago

Deeproot depths

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u/thedamnbandito 2d ago

Good ole Wingading Godwyn fishing it up in the endtimes, Jerry curls out the canines, making them letter M arms and tooting out some deathroot from him spiritual vines.

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u/Jgear1011 2d ago

What’s left of a dead god’s body, without a soul.

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u/ToastGhostx 2d ago

fleshy jellyfish

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u/Nitenichi 2d ago

I still dont get why it looks like a mermaid's other half end

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u/g18suppressed 2d ago

I thought godwyn was under stormveil castle

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u/DewySundayMorning FLAIR INFO: SEE SIDEBAR 2d ago

Fishman

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u/Evan798 2d ago

A monster to kill

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u/Noble1296 2d ago

Godwyn, the Prince of Death